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Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Manfred
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from the Washington Post

U.S. promises unlimited financial assistance to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac

Friday, December 25, 2009

The Obama administration pledged Thursday to provide unlimited financial assistance to mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, an eleventh-hour move that allows the government to exceed the current $400 billion cap on emergency aid without seeking permission from a bailout-weary Congress.

The Christmas Eve announcement by the Treasury Department means that it can continue to run the companies, which were seized last year, as arms of the government for the rest of President Obama's current term.

But even as the administration was making this open-ended financial commitment, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac disclosed that they had received approval from their federal regulator to pay $42 million in Wall Street-style compensation packages to 12 top executives for 2009.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/24/AR200912...

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:25 | Link to Comment wackyquacker
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well, I am certainly not a small burger but it's true I don't understand the law. It is indeed way over my head. Is this one of those things where you smart folks argue over what the meaning of word is, is?

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Clinteastwood
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Hey nony, if you can't explain a scrutiny regime in a way that even my grandmother can understand it, you probably don't know what you're talking about.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:04 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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"it's WAY over the heads of you who are reading this, because you're petit bourgeois and don't know the law."

Fuuuuuuck you!

If you are the real Ryskamp, you are an insufferable ass who needs to be taken out behind the woodshed, where real citizens would stomp your ass a mudhole and walk it dry for ya. You probably are not though. You probably have something against  Ryskamp and you are posting here, trying to harm his image for some reason.

Go away troll idiot.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 11:31 | Link to Comment bonddude
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So busted, nice !

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Hey Anon

You spew the same droll logic as Mein Kampf . Perhaps you will become our megalomaniacal leader ?  Not. Better to limit your dissertation to 2 syllable words so we can understand your point.

Oh.  Why not move to China. I hear there are  underpaid and overworked factory workers ripe for a Communist Revolution.  Oh, sorry, done before.  No one left working here....

p.s. the law is what those in power say it is.

 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 05:28 | Link to Comment nicholsong
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Interesting thesis in your comment.

I only wish you'd written it with slightly less brandy egg nog.

.

A review of your book was titled "Sloppy".

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 07:26 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Indeed.

His book review was less than flattering. 

Typical half-baked pseudo-intellectual comic relief. +2 though for some of the most extraordinarily creative sophistry ever produced by a Kollege graduate (sorry, can't type my "e's" backwards for this pseudo-academia wannabe sycophant).

My only question here is how much hashish does a guy have to smoke to get into the mindset of writing at that level of convoluted horseshit? 

Writing is not your vocation my friend. Stick to your Wal-Mart greeter job. It's your calling. 

You lost me at "New Bill of Rights". Sayin' it doesn't make it so. And apparently your reader (singular) doesn't think so either. 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 09:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:13 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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The guy's puffed a wee too many bong hits as of late. He's really a Jeff Spicolli type hiding behind a keyboard. 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Rick64
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Arrogance breeds ignorance.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:08 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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thank u for saying that.  i read a similar comment by our friend this morning and was thinking the same thing all day long.

monsieur ryskamp, i suggest you go see The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus.  you remind me of heath ledger's character, tony aka barry.   feel free to come back when you've seen it and we can discuss the ending.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 21:41 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Anon,

While you may know the law,and are obviously learned, and while I agree w/you to a large degree, the Powers  that be, have one major looming unresolved  issue.

80 Million+ firearms owners..............

The Revolutonary War was fought with less than 10% of the populace.

The military is bound by an Oath, and it's not to a NEW Const or to the POTUS.

It's to the Original,to Defend and Protect the Constitution of the United States of America, from enemies both Foreign and Domestic.

(the  POTUS Command comes 2nd in that Oath, as CIC), I have many close friends in all branches, up and down the chain.

I put it to a Ret Lt.Major, WHAT would happen if the current Admin, did something/s, outside the purview of their Oaths.

Would they intervene?, He said,likely NO.

(The history of separatism is far too great,unless it was sedition,etc).

But, he did say, in his opinion, if the PEOPLE rose up, the Military would in his OPINION, stand DOWN.

So, using the Rev War stats for convo sake, say just 10% of those under arms decided enough.

That's 8 Million men & women armed to the teeth.

Who's going to stop them?, from re-taking this Republic?.

Remember the Military, and ALL who took that Oath, it stay's with you for life.

There comes a point where you roll over, or have enough.

 

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 09:22 | Link to Comment bbbilly1326
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uhhh, don't know what branch of service that "Lt. Major" claimed to be from, but there ain't no such rank AFAIK........

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 09:40 | Link to Comment bbbilly1326
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oh, and BTW, romanticizing the the US military is a BIIIIG MISTAKE.

 

They are one of the most politically corrupt organizations on earth.  There are plenty of good people in the organization, but the leadership is totally politicized........as in, they DO NOT look out for their own.

This Oath Taker idea that the "Military" will protect the people against the govt is bullshit.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 12:35 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Sorry, Sgt Mjr,and I did not mean that the Military would prtotect the common citizens.............

That they would let us rip.

If it came to that.

Remember, these folks are US.

If it got that bad, trust me, they know where their bread is buttered.

And your correct..................Texans, will be with Texans.

Mon, 12/28/2009 - 11:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 12/28/2009 - 12:54 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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look - the American public is armed well enough to take over some pacifist country but who are you kiddin that it could even topple the local swat team??

 

The reason Americans can be well armed is that the US Military is armed beyond anyone's dreams which makes the public look like a declawed kitten

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 16:18 | Link to Comment Blindweb
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If I understand him right I tend to agree with his general thesis.  The size of the housing problem for the largest national economy in the world is greater in force than the constitutional government.  Therefore any forcast that's based on the last 100 or so years of examples in democractic capitalism is suspect.  Expect major paradigm shits, as Faber points out war is the most obvious. 

 

That being said for a supposed superior intellectual he seems to miss the entire nature of communication.  For example, no one cares if you know more than them if you can't communicate that you know more than them.  Trees 'know' a lot of stuff I don't too, but frankly I don't give a shit.  Richard Feynman, well known physicist, talks about the nature of communication in one of his interviews.  Or see Lao Tzu. 

Mon, 12/28/2009 - 12:57 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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the problem with most of the people on ZH is that the only way to communicate with them is to throw a bag of gold off a cliff

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 19:17 | Link to Comment Segestan
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This is a very good response and I disagree only on one point... Democracy was never a system for the masses to be heard , rather Democracy means many Kings and with the power of the polling booth even a tiny minority can gain power ... in other words the smartest faction in the mob gains the rights of the moral founded law.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 23:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:22 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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ORGY!!

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Smokey
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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AND GOLD!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:02 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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AND BITCHES!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Nothing a few lawsuits can't deal with. In any event, you seem to be confusing landlord-tenant cases with foreclosures, Two very different things.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:34 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Yeah, censorship, it's the American Way!  I'll put in a good word for you to head up the Thought Police.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:04 | Link to Comment kathy.chamberli...
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S E X . . . . . . . . . 

with real people,,,,,,,,, not virtual

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:37 | Link to Comment TheGoodDoctor
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Retailers Vying for Discount Seekers Cut Prices After Christmas

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amN49nN5nmEs&pos=1

 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 04:27 | Link to Comment Reductio ad Absurdum
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There are many news stories about retailers offering big discounts over the last month and how it seems to be drawing in shoppers. Retail stocks have been soaring.

The obvious question is, if discounting is so good for retailers then why don't they do it all the time?

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@EVERBODY

Any takers on the name-the-(potential)-scandal identified by Sprott?  I think a name could give the story some legs:

+ QuEasyGate?

+ GeithnerGate?

Any others? 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:44 | Link to Comment monmick
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BillGate (as in T-bills)

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Cursive
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BillGate.  I like it.  Kinda reminds me of Billingsgate, the infamous district of swearing  and cursing.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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List A

______

ARMEGADDEN

THE TRUTH

THE END

THE GREAT KOOLAIDE REGURGITATION

WORLD WAR THREE

CHAOS

OUR FINAL UNDOING

 

List B

______

THE GREAT IGNORING

THE GREAT SO WHAT

THE CONTINUED DENYING

THE MILD WHATEVERING

THE COLECTIVE SIGH

THE ENIGMATIC, HUH?

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:00 | Link to Comment merehuman
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derivatives of lies, loyalty and ethics swaps, honesty defaults, ponzy insurance

all too complex for me. From hereon each day the sun will shine a little longer, and perhaps remove the shadows from wallstreet. Yea right!

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 08:56 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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LOL What you don't know can't hurt you. He who increases his wisdom increases his sorrow. He who doesn't increase his wisdom doesn't increase his ability to respond appropriatedly. Ignorance is the blissful employment of no response-ability.

I agree with ya. Give ignorance a chance! Do it for the dumbasses who want to be know it alls, answer to every problem, full of shit guides to a full of shit universe!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:12 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Valentine's Day Part Deux - Airing the Greivances

and of course, that old standby, Charlie Foxtrot Nation.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:37 | Link to Comment deadhead
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gotta be "FedGate"

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:44 | Link to Comment Cursive
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Thanks, DH!

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:06 | Link to Comment kathy.chamberli...
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"ForeclosureGate"

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Any one hear that the Pope was 'assaulted' at his Xmas mass today?  A 'mentally unstable' woman jumped the rail and managed to pull the Pope to the ground before security intervened.

Between this and the Berlusconi incident, and the Obama secret service lapses, I think the Powers that Be are sending a message to all their lackeys, henchmen, puppets...  Do as you are told, or you will be involved in an accident, caused by some random "mentally unstable" person...

Just a though!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:04 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Interesting.  However, it looked to me that she never even got close to Popey, and that he merely tripped over the rug he was wearing while the woman was being tackled to the ground by the Pope Goons.

At any rate, maybe it's an indicator that people are getting nastier, and that current security--which assumed a more docile public--are inadequate for the new level of disquiet and hatred brewing in the ocean of plebes.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Unscarred
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"Mentally unstable?"  Sounds more sane than any woman I've ever known.

[Ba-da-dum, dum, <cymbal crash>]

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Hey-ooooh.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:19 | Link to Comment geopol
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We are all becoming  mentally unstable

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:33 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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"schizophrenia is the exterior limit of capitalism itself or the conclusion of its deepest tendency, but that capitalism only functions on condition that it inhibit this tendency, or that it push back or displace this limit....Hence schizophrenia is not the identity of capitalism, but on the contrary its difference, its divergence, and its death " - deleuze & guattari

many would disagree with D&G's use of the term capitalism, myself included.  but whatever they described as capitalism was exactly what we are experiencing today, so please excuse the loaded term.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Lou629
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Less anti-government tirades & conspiracy theory tinfoil, more facts and figures from legitimate, proven & credible sources. 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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And pray tell who are these "legitimate, proven & credible sources"? The NYTimes? Washington Post? US Government? The Federal Reserve? HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Lou629
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Certainly not GG, but c'mon, some of the tinfoil and the so-called "sources" cited by some who post here would make one think the NYT, WP or Uncle Sam, etc were the epitome of credibility.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:06 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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I say let people fish the ocean of ideas and find the good ones for themselves.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Lou629
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That has always worked for me.  What also works for me is calling out some of the bovine excrement to be found on here from time to time by its proper name, ie: bullshit.   Just to clarify, i am not speaking of Marla or Tyler (or you or GG) here, but there certainly are a few others.  Happy holidays.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Well, I think that our entire present education system is one big giant turd, so whenever I come across something that seems to be the exact opposite of "legitimate and credible" (as taught by our "education system"), I consider it totally legitimate and credible and go with that. But that is my modus operandi and you are free to choose yours, so good luck and happy holidays.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 05:40 | Link to Comment nicholsong
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The Seven Lesson School Teacher.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 20:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:56 | Link to Comment MountainHawk
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Our education system is design to stupefy a greater portion of the masses...

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Oh so they are "credible" sources because the bank bandits who bought them give them good fico scores and upgrade them with ratings agencies all the time!!!!!

You can't legitmize bullshit. It's too easy to burn.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:43 | Link to Comment deadhead
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"And pray tell who are these "legitimate, proven & credible sources"?

That was great GG, laughed my ass off!

My wife has always been more cynical than me when it comes to anything said by the government, large corporations, and mass media. In my defense, I've had little trust in governmental and media pronouncements over the years, just not as downright cyncical as she is. As to large corporations, I worked in financial services for 30 yrs and I do know that just about everything is a lie, misrepresentation, spin, daily Dilbert dialogue, etcetera.

She won. She's right. I'm wrong.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment jesus
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+1 I agree 100%. Too many financial blogs spell their own demise when they move from mostly fact posts to mostly rant posts. Listen, everyone thinks the government is a bunch of shitbags, it is not news and the rants about it bring nothing new to the world. All it does is increase the amount of off-topic goldbug rants in the comments for all of the real posts, which is a shame. I am sick of 50% of the comments on totally unrelated stories ending up being about gold or healthcare or both. "I can't wait for the apocalypse, I am going to trade my home jarred lettuce jams for gold to pay the doctor with when Obama's nazi healthcare explodes the socialism in all of our faces!!11!!"

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:26 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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lol, definitely have read that last line here more than once in all of its various forms

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 02:51 | Link to Comment estaog
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I love the way Jesus' post about not getting hijacked by foaming at the mouth goldbugs has been hijacked by the very same thing.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 06:57 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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I'd rather be a foaming at the mouth gold bug than a foaming at the mouth dollar-bug/paperbug any day.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:08 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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They end up being about gold because gold is important.  Don't overlook the obvious.  Unknown people are trying to help you, despite what you may think.  The good guys are out there.  Learn to be more discerning.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:37 | Link to Comment jesus
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No, they become about gold because most of the hardcore market blog folks are obsessed with it, it is not some natural movement where everyone sees the gold-light all of the sudden. This site was not all about gold before it was popular. I have witnessed in many blogs about the credit bubble since at least 2005 that once they become popular a clique of goldbugs moves into the comments. It is probably all the same people in each one!

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:13 | Link to Comment dogbreath
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As someone who was viewed as a wingnut or worse because I tried telling everyone I met about gold from 2002 (gold under 320) onward I want to say this. 

In 2002-07  the  people I talked to didn't want to listen.  Their optimism filter wouldn't allow in a message that predicted the current events.  The message was also a hard sell because Bartender Al kept everyone drunk.  You know how hard it is to talk to drunks.  I tried but I more or less gave up because it was futile. Now everyone knows about gold. In some ways I agree because there isn't much of a discussion with all these recent experts but I do not agree that is the case here at ZH.  The quality of the contributors and commenters is outstanding and as long as that continues ZH  will be what it is.  The death of other blogwebsites has been in my experience from the contributors loosing inspiration, "anotherfuckedborrower" comes to mind. Its too big a burden for one man or woman to carry.   Blogs are born and and blogs die.  

Now at least gold is on everyones radar. 

One aquiantance who has heard my message for a while said to me last week,  "why didn't you tell me you weren't lying about gold". 

 

 

 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 05:51 | Link to Comment nicholsong
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dogbreath, Oh don't I hear you! I was buying gold/silver in 1994 telling people what was coming. I've been the 'kook' in the circle of friends the entire time since then. Everyone says some variation of "you gotta go along to get along" or "it will never happen".

I started to laugh when after a few years it changed to "it will never happen in our lifetime". Now I get (about monthly) calls randomly from all these 'friends' who had given me so much shit over the years, all asking me pretty much the same thing you mentioned, and all starting with some ridiculous statement like "oh man, remember that crazy shit you used to talk about?  Oh Man, I SEEN IT ON TEE-VEE!".  

That's what made it real for them. NOT that I was a living human being in the room showing them photocopied documents and tables and desperately trying to explain it to them in full context, oh no. It's when the fucking Television shows it, well good God man, It Must Be Real!

Pathetic.

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:11 | Link to Comment kathy.chamberli...
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Bartender Al

billybonsai7 should pick up on that phrase and characterize it.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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It is ALL about GOLD. He who has the Gold makes the rules, and if you don't have any, I guess you won't be making any and will just have to play along (read: be a slave).

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Gold is a Hardcore Insurance Policy- that is its true value. But... he who has the gun can confiscate the gold.

 Gold will only have value, so long as we keep this bruised and bleeding country together. Otherwise, the more gold you have, the bigger the army you will need to feed.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:39 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Thank you for that completely jumbled and yet nonsensiscal and poorly-reasoned thought.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:19 | Link to Comment Rusty_Shackleford
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Bingo. 

 

Do you really think that all of this financial damage can be fixed by creating more paper ticket/digital money out of nothing?   ...and without dire consequences?

 

The Titanic has already hit the iceberg.  The damage is done.  Some of us have filled some lifeboats and are paddling, as others say "It can't be sunk!" and go back to the bar to talk about stochastics and head and shoulder patterns.

 

If you were one of these people, and you didn't do everything you possibly could to encourage fellow passengers to get off the sinking ship and onto the lifeboats, could you live with yourself afterwards?

 

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:55 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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fuck 'em Rusty. Remember your OPSEC, or you'll have these cold and hungry idiotic minions pounding on your door for a handout.

Live up to your namesake there! ;)

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 02:37 | Link to Comment Rusty_Shackleford
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Yeah, I guess. 

 

Oh well, back to the LP/OP.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Thanks Rusty and Chumby for your well-reasoned counterpoint.

If your gold is paper IOU's then, of course, it can be used to wipe your ass, so it will always retain some value.  If it is in bricks at your house, you better spend some time practicing your shot.  If it is more than a few bricks, plant a big garden to feed your army. Is that clear enough fer ya...

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Bob
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Why are you evading the family Christmas Intimacy Express Experience today?  X-Mas, one day of divine hope, peace and love each year, and you're online.  So am I. 

Why?

My best reason is I've been happily relegated to the smoker's room.  But I'll have to carve the turkey in 10 minutes, I'm now being told. 

Who are the rest of these people posting on Christmas, I'm wondering? 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Lndmvr
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This on is sitting, drinking, eating and generally trying to enjoy the day after shoveling 3 frikin feet of snowdrifts so in case my 91 year old Mom in law has any problems the paramedics can get in. Some of the family can't even open thier doors to get out!  Never be carefree when they say a blizzard is coming. AND, we say Merry Christmas to all.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:23 | Link to Comment Argos
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Ouch, sorry to hear.  I remember my days shoveling fondly.  Now, I'm enjoying the sunny and 62 degs. here in Phoenix.  Yeah, I know it's hot here in the summer, but you never have to shovel sunshine.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:02 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Well, my father ate a fricking Christmas ornament that was shaped like a gingerbread cookie, and my elderly mom tried to kinda filch one of the grandkid's plastic bouncy toys (I caught her in the act putting it in her purse and made her give it back.) Karma was found when the toddler accidentally boubced it off her face in an attempt to get it to light up.

Yep, its Christmas time in my household and I'm all out of hard liquor.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:13 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I'm sorry. Used to have those Christmases.  It changed. Life is much better. Sounds like work is a haven, in comparison.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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shalom bitches !!!!1

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:07 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Cheeky, you bastard, how did you manage to get out of the trunk?

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Yo Cheeky, you're alive!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:17 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Shalom ya Bastard. Hang out more. Teh peeps likes you. See posts around where folks want to know where ya been.

Mon, 12/28/2009 - 08:08 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Bobsled bitches!!!! Just say no to slalom.

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:15 | Link to Comment kathy.chamberli...
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good guess you don't hang christmas lights around your swiss chalet......

sheffa

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Criminal activities of the Federal Reserve and who owns it. WE NEED TO BRING THIS SUCKER DOWN!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:55 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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The Federal Reserve is NOT the only problem. They are simply a lobby group for the member banks. Getting rid of FR is like trying to stop the war by getting rid of lobbyists for Raytheon . 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:24 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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"like trying to stop the war by getting rid of lobbyists for Raytheon ."

Gotta start somewhere...

That sounds like a small, managable, doable little project there.

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:23 | Link to Comment Unscarred
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Ms., Merry Christmas!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:42 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Happy holidays and may you remain, Unscarred.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:05 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year MsCreant!

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:15 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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:-D

Same to you, dear one!

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:20 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Bloomberg says Goldman owns Harris Beechcraft that has a billion dollar contract to make spy planes for Afghanistan.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:09 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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That's a bit simplistic.  Sure, the FR is not the ONLY problem, but it's certainly the biggest and most destructive.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:31 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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Would you blame the USDA for all the fat arses? No because like the FR, the USDA is just a lobby group for the food industry. You can destroy the FR but unless you dismantle the entire fraudulent banking system, it would just morph into another "creature". FR is not the body or even a tentacle, but simply just the ink cloud allowing the tentacles to either take hold or, as recently seen, allowing the predatory system to escape death. 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:04 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Well, I certainly don't disagree, but you gotta start somewhere.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Dick the dog
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The Fed is the wellspring by which all the socialist zealots are empowered.

Be they academic charlatans, war- mongering corporatists or welfare state bureaucrats,

all rely on the regime of irredeemable currency to fund their odious agenda.

SHRED THE FED!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:33 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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Take down the FR, and we take down their ability to manipulate the currency and scam the entire populace. Like cutting three or four heads off the hydra....the beast is severely weakened, but not yet dead.....soon enough.....

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Well, we gotta start somewhere, and the fed seems as good a place as any.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Who owns the Federal Reserve ?  The Antichrist, of course.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment svendthrift
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I'd like to see a comprehensive series, written for the average individual, on how economic insitutions actually function, and their effect upon average people.

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:28 | Link to Comment Kayman
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The free market system, a laudable theory, was long ago replaced by a system that caters to the very few on the backs of the many.  It is no longer taught in college, the books have been burned. Sorry...

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:46 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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got a gun?  if so, i got a great idea for some quality entertainment:

take your TV out to the backyard, paint a bullseye on it and shoot a clip into that motherfucker.   you'll spend weeks reliving the memory in your easy chair, plus you'll most likely give some inspiration to the neighbors.  

better yet, shoot a vid and upload it to uboob.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:00 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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i) Working out how to be able to pay yourselves a decent wage for the work you put in, without selling out to financial industry... 

ii) The various tricks governments will use to pretend the fiscal situation is better than it really is, especially understating inflation...

iii) Suspicious trading activity...

iv) The dreadful job the munis do at managing budgets - excessive wages and benefits to local authority workers , misuse of derivatives...

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:44 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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One more thing - a periodically updated table of Treasury auctions, date, size, maturity bid-to-cover, direct vs indirect etc etc, so we can quickly see changes to auction results.  Obviously, I could do this myself, but it would allow for discussions of perceived trends...

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 03:13 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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Oh, which elements would you like to see on the new periodic table?

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 18:52 | Link to Comment mojine
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666 Ho Hopium

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:13 | Link to Comment merehuman
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There is a mint now producing silver bullion one ounce  coins stamped with indents to be split into 1/2s or 1/4 s. How perceptive of the industry. I would call that forward looking. If i could remember i would leave the link, but i was smoking a bowl at the time. Now theres a growth industry.

You all have a wonderful day!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Dick the dog
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And a wonderful barter item as well.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:00 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Cool.  I just picked up a "Piece of Eight": a silver coin with 4 diametric indents to allow the coin to be split into 1/8ozt bits.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 12:37 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Well between Anon, and Mad Max, at least we have two gun owners.......LOL

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:05 | Link to Comment callistenes
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I think it would be cool to have a real time graph of those interest maturity rate swaps that Morgan Stanley was pitching Mtd,Ytd performance etc.

We could call it watching the train wreck in real time. That and price of gold GG.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:05 | Link to Comment xppt
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#1 Profitable trading FOR REAL PEOPLE (not millionaire quants) on all the corruption of the US government including the Fed, Treasury and Congress and Judiciary that you write about. We all know it is corrupt and broken to the core. FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TRADE IT. CONCENTRATE ON THAT. Gecko is on the right track. At some point dollars will stop working and only blood will fix it. Bring it down. The sooner the better. #2 The trading. #3 The trading. Predictions without accountability are useless.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:09 | Link to Comment msorense
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What happened to Wall St. Pro?  Miss him!!  Probably got foreclosed and living on the street now.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Benthamite
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Or hiding from the repo man.  

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 03:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Number 156
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Zero Hedge should focus on the same things it has  been focusing on since its inception, and keep an accurate record of any and all policies and subterfuge that ruined the economy so as to refute any revisionist history you know will follow as politicians try to deny responsibility.

The great ponzi scheme on which the American economy is based has began to fail in 2007. Its been balanced on the precipice ever since.

My Question;

What year in the future will the American economy face its ultimate collapse?

 

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Glaucus
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My hope (and it is only that) is that collapse doesn't happen before 2012, as I need more time to prepare.  I've been telling friends for years, though, that the FRN won't see its hundredth birthday (2014) and am curious about two things: (1) everyone's thoughts on this article: http://www.strike-the-root.com/92/butler/butler3.html and (2) what everyone thinks about the FRN being replaced by a regional currency (the so-called "amero") and the likelihood that it will be accompanied by the creation of the so-called North American Union (following escalation of war in the ME and a "national emergency" requiring the implementation of martial law).

I frankly don't know how the USG can survive (not that I want it to) without a lurch toward regionalism following the collapse of globalization (dollarization).

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 11:55 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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The US has immense natural resource wealth as well.  We're just not allowed to use it.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:39 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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Interesting thoughts....I am mega-bearish on the USA, and think the FRN will fail. But not in the near future, no where near it. The chaos it will create will be the endgame for the current system, of the 300m people in the USA, I would say about half give a shit.....and that half will be gunning for blood. The world has seen nothing like this....and they  know it. A long way off a currency failure, but the decline continues in the meantime.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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