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What should Zero Hedge focus on next year?

 

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Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:27 | 174323 MarketTruth
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VIDEO:
G Edward Griffin - Creature From Jekyll Island
A Second Look at the Federal Reserve

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450&ei=rBE1S4jzNYeYqAOR3fnNDg&q=the+creature+from+jekyll+island&hl=en#

 

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 12:19 | 175393 Careless Whisper
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@MarketTruth    THANKS for that link. Very interesting. Thomas Jefferson said that a Central Bank is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Here is what he said:

 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Opinion_against_the_Constitutionality_of_a...

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:36 | 174332 bugs_
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Latvia: Loan us more or the puppy gets it.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:38 | 174334 Anonymous
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less from that idiot rosenberg at gluskin. probably the greatest destroyer of wealth in 2009.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:40 | 174336 Anonymous
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too funny!! she said "well almost" that's right don't forget we are like a tank of Piranha hungry for you Ms. Marla

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:43 | 174342 derryb
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Better headlines.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:45 | 174344 ozziindaus
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Keep doing what you're doing but please pay a little more attention to the following topics:

 

  • How the banks have no real reserves (no lending because they have no capital or trust debtors)
  • Cap and Trade scandal and how it will effect everyones lives
  • True powers behind Obama (Rahm) and the Health Care Bill. Medicare Part D on E
  • True intention of Globalization especially focussing on the cosy US/China relationship
  • Why the dismantling of the Industrial Mid West is, in effect, the end of the US.
Personally, I believe these are the issues of 2010.

 

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:48 | 174348 waterdog
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My psychiatrist says that ..., well, uh, never mind.

 

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 15:52 | 174351 Seal
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The detailed financial stuff is great although my main objective is “HOW CAN I MAKE MONEY FROM THIS” for me and clients. I try to not get too distracted by what seems to me to be discussions akin to re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

The financial conclusions I have to come to are generational in scope. Marc Faber had a great piece on a castaway who could only access the financial markets every ten years. In 1970 he bought gold, in 1980 sold gold bought Nikkei, 1990 bought US market, 2000 sold the US, etc. LOL

 

The main thing I see missing from it all is the large sweeping views – clearly, long-term investment decisions follow from them.  

 

Mine are as follows

1. The United States [all of us] is bankrupt and unable and UNWILLING to repay its long accumulated debts.

2. By 2030 the Chinese economy will be several times the size of the US economy.

3. The US is now under the de facto authority of a military dictatorship.

4. A normal 22-27 year higher interest rate, higher commodity price cycle began a few years ago and will continue for another 20+ years.

5. Between 2009 to 2013 the US, its people, homelands and its markets will experience large-scale, unique and severe disruptions.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:58 | 174518 Seer
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By 2030 the Chinese economy will be several times the size of the US economy.

I'm just not thinking that that will happen, not because the US won't sink, but because China is running head-long toward the cliff of massive instability (unsustainability).

But, by 2030 I doubt that people will be engaged in any such discussion(s), as it'll be about survival.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:54 | 174637 DoChenRollingBearing
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China has a lot of problems (demographic, environmental, etc.).  China also has a long history of messing up just when they are on the verge of being a superpower.  If we have just calm leadership here, I don't think we need to worry about China.

Worry more about fixing us.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:27 | 174971 Kayman
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If you want to make money long term then your projection about China is dead wrong. China continues merrily along as a one-off Communist/Capitalist perversion.

China counts what is produced (communist ideology) not what is sold or consumed. Therefore their GDP numbers are totally bogus.  

The American consumer's ability to continue to purchase Chinese made Junk through Wallmart, etc., has been severely crimped since the inflating/refinancing bubble of house prices has been popped.  This, along with the ironic loss of their American customer base, the American middle (working, now non-working) class, as China stole American manufacturing jobs.  

Jeez, I'd like to hear again, why cheap, imported crap in Wallmart is good for the American economy. 

So, China will carry on, as if nothing has happened, until something happens. I will give you a prize, if you can pick the time and date of the triggering event. Maybe, a little event like merging with Taiwan, over the protests of the U.S.

Tue, 12/29/2009 - 15:43 | 176136 Slewburger
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I would love to see some threads involving Walmart or Chans Club.

Something like:

1. Penetrate domestic market with Made in USA products.

2. Force domestic suppliers to cost cut in order to achieve market exposure WM can provide.

3. Cripple domestic operations to the point of liquidation by making them directly compete with imported products.

4. Set up deals with Chinese manufacturers to make goods with liquidated equipment from US.

5. Tell domestic customers they are being provided with jobs and should be thankful to WM for $9/hr.

6. Show how WM has taken advantage of the US taxpayer by acknowledging their employees must rely on state/federal programs as wage subsidies.

Just saying.

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:11 | 174362 Anonymous
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Nuke A gay Whale For Jesus - I think that about covers it.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:13 | 174363 Anonymous
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Congress using 4 years of health care taxes to mask the massive structural deficit while they don't actually provide any health care.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:14 | 174365 Anonymous
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Congress using 4 years of health care taxes to mask the massive structural deficit while they don't actually provide any health care.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:16 | 174366 Chopshop
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gold. definitely gold. and don't forget inflation cause it might actually happen in a few years. so, yeah.  and the dxy going to negative 13.

thanks to everyone at Zero Hedge for all of your time, efforts and energy.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:17 | 174369 Steroid
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The US is at the edge of the abyss. California is always a step ahead!

Watch California and report everything ignored by the MSM, even the seemingly irrelevant.

Thank for your hard work. Happy Holidays, you deserve it!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:01 | 174434 Anonymous
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Yes, seriously, keep a running total of how much Federal Tax money Californis bilks from the other 49 states.

Expose california for the failed liberal tarrarium that it is.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:23 | 174536 Seer
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Lest anyone fail to make the connections to all of this, it was un-briddled (corporate) growth that precipitated all of this.

As some have (correctly) pointed out, CA is a leading indicator.

I'd say that CA's big mistake, as has been that of most of the other net federal tax generatoring states, is in feeding the federal government (which does absolutely NOTHING for the people, except to steal from them to pay their rich capitalist friends).

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 12:29 | 174889 chumbawamba
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Yeah, the 6th (or whatever) biggest economy in the world needs your trifling tax money.  Nice try.  It's the other way around.  I want my tax money back.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:32 | 174457 Rusty_Shackleford
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Bingo.  Cali is the tip of the spear.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:52 | 174470 deadhead
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I promise you that New York will put up one hell of a battle with California. I do agree that Cali is the tip and is a massive accident happening in slow motion. Keeping an eye on Cali is wise as an indicator.

Let's hope our Cali commenters continue to share their pearls with us.

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:44 | 174506 MsCreant
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If you follow fashion at all, you know it hits Cali first, then New York. It will truly be in to be thin in all things before too long.

Love you deadhead. Happy holidays.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:32 | 174549 ozziindaus
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Although Michigandians are not known for their fashions, they're certainly known for their hard times and recessions. Michigan was first into this crisis and technically in a DEPRESSION according to length of recession, unemployment rate and drop in GDP. Look to Michigan as a window into the US's future. 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 11:00 | 174862 deadhead
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same to you MsC!! 

Keep the fire up.....people are beginning to get off their arses in America but need to be motivated.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:40 | 174981 Kayman
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That is soooooo  yesterday. New York got $700 billion, then $1+ Trillion. California just wants to keep up with the penguins in New York.

Thanks to all ZH'ers for lifting the TARP(s) covering the stinking excrement that is our financial system.

Maybe we could focus on baby steps towards a solution that saves/helps the country. 

It behooves the powers-that-be to  marginalize this site and discussion.

Happy New Year. 

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:19 | 673130 kathy.chamberli...
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T A R P   I T   .......BITCHEZ

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:54 | 174511 Bolweevil
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Surf=flat like a lake.  Building and CRE at standstill with massive and increasing vacancies in retail.  There has traditionally been a lot of turnover downtown, but the vacancies were always filled; now they sit vacant.  Multiple building projects put on hold or just walked away from.  Oddly, municipal "beautification" projects continue unabated while city admin workers are furloughed this holiday for 2 weeks (overheard "88 hours" per person).  Tourists just keep on coming, saw busload after busload of foreigners of unknown origin coming and going this Christmas morning.  Houses are staying on the market for over a year as realtors-in-denial counsel their clients that the great way to sell a house that was selling for $1.7M at the peak is to lower the the asking price by 1-3% every 4-6 weeks while having open houses with cookies and "tours" for other delusional realtors. (Someone made the point here that for a certain price range there simply are no loans to be had.  Must be within jumbo conforming with 20% down, pay cash or find a charlatan pushing option ARMs and the like.) Hedgies that survived the first round of cuts are frothing.  Many,  many financial heads were chopped.  Christmas shoppers were nuts and prolific.  Everyone seemed to be having a sale.  If I can think of anything else that may be pertinent I'll edit my post later, gotta go teach my 6 year old daughter how to ride a skateboard like a good SoCal-er. I'd love to hear from the internationals too!   

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:20 | 174370 Anonymous
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How can we a decades worth of financial failure as a call to action? We bitch and moan, but can we actually do anything proactively instead complaining? We should utilize the fat of the land.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 06:47 | 174805 Gordon_Gekko
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Yes - you can buy Gold. This will collapse the present corrupt system faster and more effectively than anything else you can imagine.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:05 | 174938 chumbawamba
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I concur and second.  And don't forget silver.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:38 | 175231 Kayman
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Say Gordon, when you are buying gold, who is the fool selling ?

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:21 | 174371 Anonymous
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How can we use a decades worth of financial failure as a call to action? We bitch and moan, but can we actually do anything proactively instead complaining? We should utilize the fat of the land.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:23 | 174372 yy
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It is clear to me and quite a few others that the source of most and maybe all economic distortions is the FED and the central-bank model, those who still don't see this may do well to study the subject.

So the focus for ZH should be to

(1) further the understanding of central banking past present and future

(2) bring to light as much of the activity of FED as can be found and dug out (and make no mistake nobody is smart enough not to leave fingerprints, there are plenty of trace materials)

(3) stimulate strategic and tactical analysis of the central bank construct and its weaknesses, strengths and flaws, only a closed minded person would accept these relatively recent constructs as enduring (mind you they lasted barely a little longer than the Bolshivik revolution). As an example, the renomination of Bernanke is a strategic mistake on the part of the oligarchs, essentially it is a gift to anybody who sees the FED for what it is. Nevertheless it will take some effort to turn the mistake into an opportunity.

Keep up the good work.

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:02 | 174393 Chopshop
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see: Austrian Liquidity Theory; Creative Destructionism; Elliott Wave Theory; and Socionomics.

for extensive history w/o methodology: read Kindleberger.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:35 | 174419 Anonymous
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Funny - I tried to implore ZH readers to check out Kindleberger and my post got axed. Thanks for the reiteration.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:31 | 174595 slickrock
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Hey Chop, Haven't talked to you since TC.  Hope you are doing well.  I assume you are working with Fibo.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:35 | 174675 Anonymous
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Ross Perot is doing 2 and 3. Mark Cuban started to do 2 and 3 but was shortly charged with insider trading. How does Ross get away with it? He has retired military buddies.

It goes like this: John was a lawyer in the Marines. He was then the hatchet man for the Senate minority leader. Then in the Attorney Generals office. So he's about to convict a mob Don. His wife calls and says a black Caddy is parked in front with two guys in it. He's says "be right there."

He walks up to the car and points his 45 at the drivers head and says: "You tell ______ that if anything happens to me or my family; I have 4 Marine Sergeants that will do the same to ______ and his family." John's family was fine and the Don was inside.

I think that the honorable former military will defeat the bankster mercenary guards. The motivation will be the coming hard times. It will bring us together to accomplish our objective. And you can take that to the bank!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:46 | 174382 Anonymous
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Is there any moderation of these comments going on?

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:58 | 174644 MsCreant
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Open thread. What does that mean to you, I am curious?

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 10:40 | 174854 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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ANON apparently has very delicate eyes. You're in the wrong place, pal.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:56 | 174388 Frank Owen
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Zero Hedge should continue exactly what it is doing. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all the Tylers and Marla. Also, thanks to all the people who leave insightful comments on here.  "...new level of disquiet and hatred brewing in the ocean of plebes." Awesome.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:09 | 174401 ozziindaus
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George Soros and David Rockefeller-Seperated at Birth 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 20:08 | 175128 tip e. canoe
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the good thing about ol' georgie is that he lays out a trail of clues to those willing to listen.  rockafella's just a blueblooded prick.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 09:22 | 175325 Anonymous
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So you really believe he scored the Pound devaluation purely on gut instinct and didn't arrange for it, eh?

No wonder these thieves can get away with it. People actually believe in Santa Claus and great fortunes are made without crimes being committed.

It ain't knowing how to trade; it's controlling the trade and that is not only reprehensible it's illegal. Credit him with getting away with it, but any criminal who is allowed to get away with it like invesment bankers own it, are in control of the legal system. Justice? For that you must wait to get to heaven.

Savvy trading, my ass.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 16:59 | 174391 Anonymous
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- what is the event (and when will it happen) that will cause the markets to correct? The Dubai default seemed to be a blip on the chart of the ever appreciating US markets.
- when will the markets trade on fundamentals again (vs manipulation/$ carry trade/liquidity etc. BS)?
- I would be willing to go long (and am long gold), but who is buying at these nosebleed prices?
- who is going to win the Titans/Chargers game tonite, and what will the score be?
- WFT... why are your folks at Zerohedge doing working today? Though we all appreciate your efforts, please give it a rest... you deserve it.

Happy Holidays to all, and Best Wishes for a Happy New Year.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:01 | 174392 Anonymous
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I think it would be very interesting for ZH to divulge the effective tax rates that major entities pay (JPM, C, GE,GS, etc.) vs the effective rates of average working Americans. It would be an easy fix for TBTF to have these same entities pay a Flat Tax and they would rapidly divest, and become much smaller!

Thaanks for all you do!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:04 | 174394 Miles Kendig
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Let's all remember to have lots of fun!  With this group I just know that recess continues to be a local favorite.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:07 | 174396 ramrod
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Keep doing what your doing,  the more people that become of aware of the reasons they feel like a hampster on a treadmill the better off we'll all be.  Expose every bit of the corruption you can on these scumbags.   Share ideas on our financial survival and  the excellent mixture of contributors work.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:14 | 174403 laughing_swordfish
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First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to alll ZH'ers from The Good Ship U-96 and all officers and men of Ninth Unterseeboote Flotille.

On what we should discuss in 2010:

1) Constant Coverage needs to be applied to the Fed and all its activities, as the unlimited QE program comes to its logical conclusion and the US Fiatsco becomes the New Zimbabwe Dollar;

2) More coverage of the Vampire Squid as it will continue to thrive no matter what happens in the U.S.;

3) Social unrest becoming a daily occurence almost everywhere in the United States;

4) MORE ON GOLD AND PRECIOUS METALS INVESTMENT (truly a must for these times);

5) Perhaps a regular column or feature on "Survivalism" - home defense and armament, survival rations and gardening, how to develop skills and goods for bartering purposes, and how to organize worker's collectives and co-ops to provide basic employment and output that can be traded or sold to other social groups.

You can see where I'm going with this. 2010 will be the beginning of the end, as state and local governments go bankrupt and totally cease to operate, creating tremendous public law and order problems. As the Feds refuse to help, more and more individuals will be taking the law into their own hands for survival. Crime and violence will approach Iraqi proportions.

You will need to be prepared.

KptLt. laughing swordfish

9er Unterseeboote Flotille

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 11:36 | 175373 geopol
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ls,, my list... perfect

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:19 | 174405 chumbawamba
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What we really need is articles that explore the following:

1) the legalities and liabilities of unsecured (i.e. credit card) debt; how to avoid debt collectors; how to deal with collections calls; what to do when the banks threaten a lawsuit to collect on the debt,

2) the legalities of tax avoidance and resistance; how to hold off the IRS; how to rescind your Social Security number (mark of the beast),

3) the legalities behind home foreclosures; how to forestall foreclosure; how to fight the banks in court; details behind the "MERS" decision earlier this year and the "show me the note" tactic.

These are all practical topics that many people (probably many people visiting ZH) are facing.

To that end, and being that I'm waging personal battles on all three of these front, I'm researching these topics and hope to be able to produce articles of the sort that might provide useful information for others.  It would be nice to know if others would find interest and value in this.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:23 | 174409 Anonymous
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bring it! We'll all be needing access to the underground economy soon.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:16 | 174448 badrhino
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++++

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:49 | 174508 MsCreant
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You sir, have earned your own column. If it won't tap you out time wise, do it.

Chumbawamba's Cave Corner

Chumba's Den of Iniquity

or simply a series entitled "DO NOT OBEY."

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:41 | 174560 RockyRacoon
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Sounds great!  That is, if he does not get "disappeared" first as a dissident or enemy combatant.  The President, the present or future, has this authority now.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33180.pdf

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:31 | 174624 laughing_swordfish
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Props to Chumba.

He seems to get the "survival" thing better than most.

He needs to head up two columns: "Chumba on Survival" and "Goldbuggery"

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 00:46 | 175238 Kayman
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Thanks Laughing_swordfish.  I split a gut laughing...

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 06:50 | 174806 Gordon_Gekko
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I second this motion.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:28 | 174593 Screwball
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Please do Chumba, all ears here.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:58 | 174689 geopol
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I.R.S.

Pocket Commissions

Delegation Orders

http://www.paynoincometax.com/

 

 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:17 | 175103 mojine
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Eagerly await your article(s)!

 

BRING IT!

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 23:32 | 175196 CD
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Interesting research on the credit system, and credit cards specifically by a gentlemen who has had considerable inconvenience foisted upon him by TPTB for his efforts to show flaws in national systems of one form or another:

Author: http://tinyurl.com/yahjg74

His webpage: http://tinyurl.com/yb64ndg

Article in question: http://www.uic.edu/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2583/...

I am truly curious to hear you opinions on this one, esp. you, Chumba.

 

 

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:25 | 673134 kathy.chamberli...
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3) the legalities behind home foreclosures; how to forestall foreclosure; how to fight the banks in court; details behind the "MERS" decision earlier this year and the "show me the note" tactic.

WOW chumba you called it 11 months ago. i am sorry your R.I.P. nowadays. my fault but didn't want you to die, just wanted to defend the cheeks and his admiration for marla. take it back if i could.

 

 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 10:01 | 174420 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Easy. Keep doing, louder and bolder, you will find that 100th monkey.

*edit*
Today I will include one of the more important themes.

2 minutes in length, quite possibly the local de facto raison d'etre.

Must watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oluy0B2_BM

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:36 | 174421 FreakuentFlyer
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less doom and more solution. factual information is already well represented, as far as i am concerned.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 17:50 | 174427 Anonymous
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Fertilizer Bitches!!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:05 | 174436 Unscarred
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OPEN THREAD:

So a guy is trying to fool around with his wife...

Oh, umm, uhhhh, so what should ZH focus on next year, right...

I can't really offer too many recommendations by way of content, and I look forward to seeing what ZH 3.0 has in store (iPhone app- nice!).  Maybe something a touch more interactive for users (rolling out the chat room @ Radio/Studio Zero); the "real-time (or as close as you can get) market commentary and analysis" alluded to in the Benjamin Dover interview; and lastly, an IP hash to reign in some of the anonymous blog-rage.  (DEFINITELY something to tone down the anonymous Three Mile Island meltdowns!)

As for pushing the envelope on content...  A guy is trying to fool around with his wife, and she says, "Stop.  Right now.  I don't want to be with you.  You don't even tell me you love me!"

So the next day, the guy goes out and gets "I love you" tattooed on his junk.  Then that night, when he's trying to fool around with his wife, she says, "Stop trying to put words into my mouth!"

MERRY FREAKIN' CHRISTMAS !!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:13 | 174446 ozziindaus
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I've heard a similar joke but the punchline was something like "WELCOME TO JAMAICA, HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME".

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:44 | 174562 RockyRacoon
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That would be the tattoo of his girlfriend's name "Wendy".

Welcome to Jamaica, Have a nice day!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:05 | 174510 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Priceless!!

"I really like the Anonymous Blog that exposes censorship of vital news and opinions in mainstream media.

Oh, could you please censor Anonymous."

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:06 | 174438 Anonymous
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Marla, keep exposing how Un-Constitutional is the individual mandate within the healthcare legislation.

It's potentially the single biggest game changer in our lifetimes if it passes.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 22:13 | 175185 DosZap
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All it will take to put the brakes on this is a Class action lawsuit by the AMA,National Assoc of Physicians, etc or a similar group.

It IS Unconstitutional........period.

Individuals, unfortunately cannot sue the Feds on these grounds...........

But, NOWHERE in the Const can the Gov't mandate Individuals purchase anything from a particular company.Much less financially penalize them, nor incarcerate them for not complying.

All it will take is the testicular fortitude to call these sods on it.

Or, IMHO, better yet, clean house, and rearrange it to OUR likes by calling a Con Con..........3/4 of the states can MAKE Congress call one.( there are at last count I think 36/38 states, plus or minus  already signed onto doing so.

Or 2/3rds of the Senate, and or the POTUS...............which right now would not be wise.

Congress can take over the Fed at will.They abrogated their responsibility to do THAT job, in 1913.

But, they can take it back.................but, who would trust these clowns to do any better?.

Pres. Kennedy knew this, started printing United States Notes (went around the Fed) in '63,started w/$5.00 bills..................we all know the end to that story.

Of course their is no PROOF that's what got him popped, conjecture at best........

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:08 | 174440 houston
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Thanks ZH for all you are doing. Happy Holidays!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:11 | 174443 houston
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ONe more thing: it would be extremely interesting to research, and post, the effective tax rates of major financial entities such as GS, C, GE, JPM, etc. and compare those rates against those paid by average working Americans! The very simple solution to TBTF is to have a flat tax for the largest financial entities who would then quickly become much smaller!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:22 | 174452 Zina
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What should ZH focus on next year?

The complete destruction of world economy in a tsunami of derivatives, or something like that.

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:26 | 673137 kathy.chamberli...
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The complete destruction of world economy in a tsunami of MBS's.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:24 | 174453 Anonymous
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This story is going to get bigger and bigger... get on board early as the truth about the corrupt actions of Jamie Dimon and Shiela Bair leak out. I predict both will be disgraced before this is over...

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2009/12/28/story1.html

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:03 | 174522 10044
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dude, do you have the entire article? it's subscription based

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:27 | 174591 Anonymous
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It will come out on Portfolio.com (now owned by the Business Journal) next week for free. Check it out then. It's truly shocking.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 20:32 | 175152 Renfield
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http://forum.rts.ru/viewtopic.asp?p=80116

scroll down half a dozen posts or so

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:04 | 174523 MsCreant
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They are already a disgrace and I have not read your article!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:28 | 174454 Anonymous
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My Sister must really love me, she got me a big Pressure Canner for xmas.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:30 | 174455 Rusty_Shackleford
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How about this:

 

A way to be notified if someone replies to you in a comment.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:27 | 174492 dogbreath
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++++  or tracking your own comments easier

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:37 | 174954 Rusty Shorts
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Good one Rusty !

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:23 | 175105 mojine
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++++++!!! notification to replies - and ability to track comments

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:39 | 174460 Assetman
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Today is the day I don't wear pants.

I'm FREEEEEEE!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:29 | 174494 Rusty_Shackleford
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All you pantsless show your faces ---- reply here!!!

(belt and button undone doesn't count)

 

Count Rusty in.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:48 | 174565 MsCreant
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Gentlemen,

Braless is where it's at. Snaps and straps, wires and hooks, and other things that constrain and dig into the skin.

Freedom is being out of one's bra.

And to think they make them for men, don't do it:

http://www.recklessreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/manbra-1.jpg

http://hubpages.com/hub/Bras-For-Men--Buying-A-Bra-For-A-Man

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:47 | 174684 Bolweevil
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putin apparently has man-boobs

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 02:33 | 174756 tomdub_1024
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Speaking of freedom, kilts are the male equivilent of bra-less (a concept I heartily "support" and wear)...;0

 

(kilts, not bras...just being clear on that)

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 02:43 | 174761 Rusty_Shackleford
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...well played.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 02:53 | 174763 tomdub_1024
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heheh...thanks!  My wife doesnt believe in bras either, nature is just fine with her, and me...;) And she digs my kilts, gotta love the breeze 'tween the knees...

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 20:11 | 175137 tip e. canoe
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real men wear skirts

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:29 | 673144 kathy.chamberli...
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never knew, missy. merry braless to you and your significant other.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 18:47 | 174466 Anonymous
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Please focus on how these little dramas fit into the big picture, which is one world government. Focus specifically on:

1. Economic crisis as a tool leading to destruction of the reserve currency
2. Which will lead to World War III
3. Which America will lose
4. Which will usher in the NWO, a world government to assure that such a war never occurs again.

The fabricated swine flu crisis and the global climate change charades have been test runs, and the people are compliant. There will never be a better time than now. The US Government is all on board. It's time.

Whoever documents and stores tapes deep in a mountain somewhere will be a hero in 1000 years. It might as well be you, Marla. Personally, I'm going to Costa Rica and opening a beach bar. Spending my days looking at a terminal is BS. Life is short. Merry Christmas to all.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:04 | 174524 Argos
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I just heard from a friend, that his buddy, did exactly that.  Retired to Costa Rica and opened a bar/restaurant.  He lasted a couple of months.  Some locals hacked him to death with a machete after robbing him.  Good luck!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:00 | 174476 deadhead
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I would like to encourage ZH and the ZH community to find a way to consistently urge and implore those who are insiders in the relevant institutions (fed, treasury, banks, sec, cftc, etcetera) to come forward with information that is known to them/others that may represent illegal/inappropriate actions of said institutions or the leadership thereof.

as a reminder, information or clues can be sent to tips at zerohedge dot com

thank you.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:08 | 174657 DoChenRollingBearing
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+1

We need to shine the light on all the corruption that is killing us.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:06 | 174481 Anonymous
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Oh Marla.

I know you made this thread entirely so I could profess my love for you.

I love you like the autumn moon.
Be my harvest!
Be my golden glow under azure skies in daytime!
My warm wet fields at midnight
be the silo to my grain
the rubber to my wheels
oh Marla

I LOVE you.

-MB

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:12 | 174615 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Good fucking lord.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:02 | 174647 MsCreant
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LMAO. To be Marla(s)!

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:41 | 174955 Rusty Shorts
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Fucking ehh man.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:43 | 174957 Rusty Shorts
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Jesus H Christ dude.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 11:52 | 174876 bonddude
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She's in bed with me. Now close the fucking door and GET LOST !

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 13:12 | 174913 Anonymous
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I feel a little funny...

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:28 | 174972 geopol
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the rubber to my wheels

 

No, you really mean, The wheels to my rubber...

2:26 PM and still feel like shit.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:38 | 174977 MsCreant
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I had a hangover once for 4 days when I was an early 20 something. I should have thrown it up. I learned my lesson. Get that drunk once every year or two, that's it. And throw up as soon as ya can. Finger down the throat over the toilet will work wonders. Then water and aspirin. That ginger green tea they talked about on the other thread looks interesting. May soothe the stomach (ginger) and act like caffeine (which is also in the aspirin).

Good luck.

Sun, 12/27/2009 - 15:48 | 175490 bbbilly1326
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B complex vitamins are good too, protects against  brain damage.........

Mon, 12/28/2009 - 23:40 | 176502 geopol
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protects against  brain damage.........

My concern for that has long since past..

 

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:35 | 174974 geopol
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Gimp, it's begining to work,,,,

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:40 | 174983 MsCreant
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You realize you are kicking the can down the way, don't you? You will be in agony again, only like our economy, worse off later with fewer resources to heal with?

Ah well, your party. Enjoy.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 20:19 | 175097 geopol
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MsCreant,,, You must have observed that hope for me is lost......but JR had a nightmare that was beyond my control to banish, and you where a part of it. Thanks babe..

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 19:55 | 174514 Anonymous
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This site became popular because it provided information during financial crisis events of Q4 08 and Q1 09 that the regular media would not report. However, over the last several months this site has become more of a "cry wolf" website predicting doom around every corner and getting more conspiracy theory focused by the day. This message won't make it to the site due to the censorship here.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:06 | 174525 Argos
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I know I'd love to see a glossary of terms and most importantly, of abbreviations. 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:40 | 174629 wackyquacker
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yes, please

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:26 | 175110 mojine
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yes to glossary of terms and abbreviations

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:16 | 174531 Quantitative Wh...
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The coming global stock market third wave crash....

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:23 | 174537 deadhead
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as they said in the movie "Poltergeist"....."they're back."

...was just told by someone watching CNN tv news that the WH has confirmed that they are classifying the N'west airlines matter as an attempted terrorist attack.  stay tuned on this one

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 15:39 | 174869 geopol
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Ya, The CIA's foreign office, Al-Qaeda...

 

 

The MSM whores know no bounds of idiotic propaganda for the Fox news hive.

UPDATE: 2:40 EDT Man was known to U.S. for three years,,,that can only mean one thing,,,PATSY, with an M80 firecracker....More body searches a Logan...

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:24 | 174539 Neo of Zion
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Focus One - Continue the excellent work on the Fed-Treasury_Congress Monetary Complex

Focus Two - Expose mainstream media inaccuracies or spindoctoring

Focus Three - begin a legitimate third political party based on these ideals

That is all I got...

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:16 | 174616 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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1) I-Phone App would be nice

2) available on Kindle would be good too (recall tha Kindle is good world wide now too).

3) We need to do some parties in  NYC--costume parties of course.

4)  A philanthropic effort such as an online auction to benefit a voted on charity would be cool.

 

Keep it real and get rid of these Ally ads, Geez!!!

 

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:05 | 174650 MsCreant
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Cindy, no offense intended by this, just some awareness, ZH is a charity that desperately needs our attention. Yeah, they don't have a charitable tax status, but you get my drift.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 00:24 | 174707 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Word MC.

I would like to contribute but I'd hate to think that I gave money to an organization that slithers. ex: Imagine if Timothy Sykes had some ownership interest in this website. Geesh, talk about slither.

Part of the problem of anonymity.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 10:49 | 174855 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Maybe in the beginning and hey, we can all, always be doing better, but I doubt charity status would apply. (And damnit, I must resist those Harry Winston watches they keep advertising!)

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:29 | 174546 Vasco7777
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Zorionak eta Urte Berri On...

May you have love in your heart, peace in your soul and bullion in your basement safe!

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 02:54 | 174765 Rusty_Shackleford
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Sweet.

 

How about this one:

 

Be polite.  Be professional.  But always have a plan to kill every single person you meet.

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS from Rusty!

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 10:53 | 174859 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Too bad they don't have a "Like" thingymaybobbit you could click for a thumbs up.

 

Anyway, now thats my man, Rusty.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 19:30 | 175113 mojine
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"It's not how many people I've killed - it's how I get along with the ones that are still alive."

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:39 | 174558 Anonymous
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Zerohedge needs to continue focusing on the real data behind the numbers and pr and forget about the short term fluctuations in market pricing, which makes it look like the trader who wasn't invited to the party.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:41 | 174559 Vasco7777
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My wife would like to know who does Timmay's hair.  I'd like to know if he's expensing more than $12 plus tip.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 20:58 | 174571 glenlloyd
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I would like to revisit the issue of MERS and the court proceedings in NE regarding foreclosures etc. That was supposed to be a big deal but it's been swept under the rug somewhere.

You would think that with all the "under the rug" sweeping that's going on it would be awfully lumpy by now.

BTW, agree with Marla, down days / holidays etc are always for airing the dirty laundry!

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:34 | 673149 kathy.chamberli...
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I would like to revisit the issue of MERS and the court proceedings in NE regarding foreclosures etc.

merry christmas 2010. you get your wish.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:14 | 174583 Anonymous
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I used to read the WSJ....first

Now....I read ZH first....

The "ZH" Journal ????

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:26 | 174590 phaesed
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Interest is Imaginary, all fixed income mathematics do not take place in the domain of reals

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 21:54 | 174606 Miyagi_san
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As MSM goes into free fall ZH should band together with other ZH types(names please) Sort of an organized approach to the NEXT step in this Government Socialist Hierarchy. They will want to divide and concur at all levels but banded  together will reduce the missing link syndrome. The bulls eye WILL be painted on by many like Rupert or Rahm or Dennis Kneale

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:09 | 174612 Trifecta Man
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The massive amount of short positions held by US banks in gold and silver futures contracts on the COMEX, and why the Commodities Futures Trading Commission permits these banks to maintain these speculative positions, even though the banks got bailout money.  http://www.investmentrarities.com/ted_butler_comentary12-21-09.shtml

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 23:07 | 174656 MsCreant
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I second this motion.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:11 | 174614 Anonymous
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Let us remember the Battle of Trenton on Christmas night 1776 and of the bravery of our forefathers.

"Washington’s army crossing the Delaware in the freezing conditions has become an important national image for the United States. Present at the battle were two other future presidents James Madison and James Monroe, the future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Marshall, Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton."

Further note that the new guy has jetted off to Hawaii.

http://www.britishbattles.com/battle-trenton.htm

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 09:57 | 174835 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Historic battle indeed. It's importance long lost in the wake of consumerism and the comfort of the couch. For all their hard work and sacrifice we evolved to being American Idols.

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 10:59 | 174861 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I'm a direct descendant of a family of guys who fought with Washington and the conditions and weather sucked huge balls. Today's "leaders" are lightweights with no moral or even intellectual courage.

 

I'm sure if they were here today they'd say. "WTF!?"

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 11:51 | 174873 Scooby Dooby Doo
Sat, 12/26/2009 - 12:45 | 174902 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Maybe, maybe not. We like our anonymity on this board. In any even they are buried next door to where I grew up.

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:24 | 174618 Anonymous
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ZH on Kindle........please please.......!!!

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:28 | 174621 Anonymous
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I am hoping that we begin to get scared enough to consider legitimate alternatives. In terms of banking and the fundamental symbolic logic necessary, it is unclear why banking is difficult to replace with a facebook plug-in. with long term feedback dependability, transparency and means for discourse, it may eventually happen that we US citizens refuse the currency, the corporations and the courts. Transacting with entities which have charters enumerating their social responsibilites, promoting alternative currency (a self-regulating distributed lending application could do a lot to rid the planet of this pox) and subsequent alternative credit generation (market consensus, transparent loan documents) of course for now it's gold, held wherever you wanna take your chances....

Sat, 12/26/2009 - 20:17 | 175145 tip e. canoe
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+1 Ithaca Hour

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:28 | 174622 Anonymous
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I am hoping that we begin to get scared enough to consider legitimate alternatives. In terms of banking and the fundamental symbolic logic necessary, it is unclear why banking is difficult to replace with a facebook plug-in. with long term feedback dependability, transparency and means for discourse, it may eventually happen that we US citizens refuse the currency, the corporations and the courts. Transacting with entities which have charters enumerating their social responsibilites, promoting alternative currency (a self-regulating distributed lending application could do a lot to rid the planet of this pox) and subsequent alternative credit generation (market consensus, transparent loan documents) of course for now it's gold, held wherever you wanna take your chances....

Fri, 12/25/2009 - 22:47 | 174636 Anonymous
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Law Professor: Counter Terrorism Czar told Me there is going to be an i-9/11 and an i-Patriot Act

August 6, 2008 – Lawrence Lessig, a respected Law Professor from Stanford University . . . revealed that he had learned, during a dinner with former government Counter Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke, that there is already in existence a cyber equivalent of the Patriot Act, an "i-Patriot Act" if you will, and that the Justice Department is waiting for a cyber terrorism event in order to implement its provisions. . .

There's going to be an i-9/11 event. Which doesn't necessarily mean an Al Qaeda attack, it means an event where the instability or the insecurity of the internet becomes manifest during a malicious event which then inspires the government into a response. You've got to remember that after 9/11 the government drew up the Patriot Act within 20 days and it was passed.

The Patriot Act is huge and I remember someone asking a Justice Department official how did they write such a large statute so quickly, and of course the answer was that it has been sitting in the drawers of the Justice Department for the last 20 years waiting for the event where they would pull it out. . .

Our governments have reams of legislation penned to put clamps on the web as we know it. Legislation such as the PRO-IP Act of 2007: H.R. 4279, that would create an IP czar at the Department of Justice and the Intellectual Property Enforcement Act of 2007: S. 522, which would create an entire 'Intellectual Property Enforcement Network'. These are just two examples. . . Full story: nformationclearinghouse.info americanbuddhist.net

Comment: Australian's may recall Federal gun legislation that all-to-quickly followed the Port Arthur Massacre, this article may provide an insight into that, and the New World Agenda, of which the Port Arthur Massacre is but one obscure strand. In addition it provides, either evidence of the complete breakdown of the representative government system: or the fact elected representatives never ever represented the voters/people but there only to represent behind the scenes masters.

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