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Due to an intensive travel schedule over the next 24 hours, posting will be limited (and if prior travel experience is any indication, Greece riots over the next week may be anticipated). Please consider this thread open to mock, ridicule, debase and taunt the now completed Stress Farce, as well as to brainstorm anything and everything else that may be of interest.
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Tyler, you did purchase travel life insurance, right? Right?
I suspect you're as popular as the wiki-leaks founder right about now.
Police assault disabled woman and then walk away (via the In Case You Missed It RSS Feed).
three big dudes in uni-form, walking side-by-side on paved public walkways, expecting others to move out of the way for them to pass. . . woman with cerebral palsy can't do that fast enough, and gets a strongarm push to ground, as they continue on their way.
because they can.
Looks like the People's Republic of the 'Couv
hired up some native peoples who were intent
on dealing others some crap. Yup, totally
expected. A-holes!
But it is a nice place otherwise.
It must really be great to be 12 years old, living in the basement far away from your two yucky sisters and surrounded by every electronic distraction you can possible think of. After all, it doesn't take much more than a 7th grade education to push a few buttons and click a few links.
No complaints, mmmmmmm. Something to think about.
edit: Well it seems that the comment from "GOD" received so many junks (27 last I looked) that it was finally pulled by the ZH server trash can. Readers after 8 AM EDT 07-24-2010 should understand that my comment above is not directed at "bonddude" but towards the comment from "GOD" that has disappeared.
PS, I have no idea how I'm still able to edit this comment after it has been replied to by Nathan Muir. I can only assume the servers have a glitch or ZH has changed their "edit" policy to allow the comment under one that has been junked away/pulled to be edited to explain what happened that offers some context. If so, thank you ZH.
God, please at least attempt to bring something of relevance to the discussion. The ZH community uses the comment section to brainstorm, explore ideas and concepts, exchange trading ideas, etc. CD is a leader of our little community, consistently bringing valuable insights to the discussion. Enough of your garbage, contribute (rhetorically) or go away.
Mr. Muir,
You are speaking rationally to someone who actually speaks "gangbanger" on an economics blog. I can't help but wonder how mushy your forehead is from beating it against that brick wall.
We hereby award you the "Most Disturbing Avatar on ZH".
Thank you. For those who haven't heard the explanation, it is up to you to decide why you might be looking up from between the legs of a naked Bah-knee Fwank. Just like Fwank in real life, no good options.
That's a BAGEL right?
If it helps you get the picture out of your head.... Sure. It's a bagel.
That is a good point.
correction, you are speaking rationality to someone who is most likely getting paid to set a race bait.
here's another clue: the crooks' hook in the rook's nook. black queen says check!
"i don't care that tyler lets the gay's in, don't get me wrong. i could care less"
Is it not correct to say that it is not that you "could care less" but that you "care not"?
Not for your mother. Not for your father. Not for your sister. Not for your brother.
You are a psychopath.
What can you care?
You have no parents or siblings.
You are a genetic creation of the child prison you were raised in.
did you know having thick long hair makes your scalp itch. just sayin. especially if you work out a lot and sweat, just sayin again‡
Lemme spell it out for you since the ZH people are too kind to explain the truth. You're a f**kin douche bag. No other explanation needed.
Stuytown Bitches:
http://denverpost.slideshowpro.com/albums/001/496/album-123176/cache/nyc...
While I know some really great cops, I also know a bunch who have always been bullies and joined the police so that they could legally bully anyone they want.
I would hope that we have not once again reach a point in history where the police are "jack-booted thugs" high on their own power and immunity.
I would try and convince your friends to quit. If it hasn't already, their job will turn them into thugs like the other 99% of cops. If they choose to be good cops (like Ramon Perez, Frank Palestro, Adil Polanco, etc.), they will be fired, harassed or worse. Being a good person and being a cop can only co-exist for a period of time. Eventually, one of them has to go.
Wrong.
99% of cops are thugs, Anonymous? There are 850,000 law enforcement personnel in the US. The fact you can name individuals responsible for abuse should tell you something about how widepread it is. If 99% were thugs and this type of abuse happened so often it would not garner any attention. 95% are fair-minded hard working public servants. These despicable acts by individual officers stand out because they are so rare. May depend on where you are, where I live the cops are good folks, I know them all.
It's obvious that you don't follow this type of news or you would know how common this type of incident is. In fact, police get away with much, much worse on a regular basis. I suggest that, for the next month, you check each of the following sites daily to get a little better informed...
In the video linked in my original comment, there are 3 cops and all 3 are thugs. One of them aggressed against the woman and the other two refused to do their jobs in order to protect the first.
I don't know where you live but I doubt the cops there refuse to enforce laws against peaceful people. A cop that is willing to arrest someone for nothing other than smoking an anapproved substance is no different than a cop that was willing to enforce segregation in the south, enforce apartheid in South Africa or arrest people for political crimes in Stalin's Soviet Union. I'm sure the state-enforcer-thugs that did those things also had neighbors that might have described them as "good folk". Regardless, if any part of your job is aggressing against a peaceful person or even covering for people who do, then you are a thug.
While I still view your comment as naive (uninformed), I will revise my statement to say that 99% of cops that spend more than a year on the force are thugs.
Thanks for schooling me, Anon. Your assumption is I don't know what I'm talking about. I was a cop for 30 years, a chief of police for 10. I regularly investigated police misconduct and fired 6 officers during my tenure as chief. I got into police work in 1979 because I didn't like what I saw, and when I got my M.S. degree from FSU I immediately went to work changing it. Many of my peers from the same era did the same thing. I suggest you research your proposition that 99% of police are thugs. Studies prove it is not so. And despite my naivete, my 30 years of observation also rejects it.
Also, the cops don't make the laws, they enforce them. If you have a problem with the laws, it is a legislative problem, not an enforcement one.
Thanks for your thoughtful and civil response. We could stand for more of that on ZH!
The last cop I met had pulled me over for not having my tag registration up to date. I had my son with me. The cop asked me why, I showed him my inspection, explained the rest carefully, letting him know that the things I was saying were not an excuse for it, that I was wrong to not have it done. I was instructing my son to slowly get the registration and insurance and he told us not to bother. He let me go with a warning. Even if he had not done that he was a gentleman. He understood my real concern which was to model the correct behavior for my son. He helped me out with that by showing my son what can happen if you are respectful of everyone as they are just trying to do their job.
It is true that they look for authoritarian personalities when they test cop candidates. Outside of that, cops represent the whole human spectrum.
Well said, Ms. I was in charge of hiring at 2 different agencies for a total of 20 years. I made it a point to stay away from authoritarian personalities, those are the folks who get into trouble. My style might not be the most common, but as you point out there are differences in every agency. It is often a mistake to paint with too broad a brush and people often over-generalize when it comes to law enforcement.
Damn. I wish I had seen this before I went on vacation. I guess I'll respond in hopes you come back to this thread.
While I'm not retracting my assumption that you're uninformed, I see now that it also has to do with a misunderstanding of my use of the word "thug". The misunderstanding stems from the fact that we're operating on a different set of ethics. This is demonstrated by your statement that "the cops don't make the laws, they enforce them".
When I use the word "thug", I am referring to people who commit acts of aggression against other people. Whether or not it is their job to be a "thug" does not change the fact that they are thugs. Under your set of ethics (at least what I can figure by your comments), members of the Gestapo, the Stasi or Stalin's People's Comissariat were not "thugs" because it was their job to "enforce the law".
So, I stand by my statement that 99% of cops that remain employed for more than a year are "thugs". I will admit that a large part of their job description is to commit acts of aggression but, unlike you, I don't think that the fact they are paid to commit acts of aggression excludes them from being thugs.
You said "I suggest you research your proposition that 99% of police are thugs. Studies prove it is not so." Do you mean your definition of "thug" or mine? The trueness or falseness of my proposition is based on the definition. Using my definition (much more accepted than yours), there is nothing to research. But I am curious about these "studies" that "prove" that less than 99% of cops are thugs. Please provide a source so I can further educate myself.
Here is your link for the day: Cop commits perjury to put innocent man in prison, steal man's assests and his only punishment is that he no longer paid to be a thug.
Prison-Industrial-Complex
http://tinyurl.com/ysek4b
LEO has become the standing army we were all warned about 230 years ago.
Also from the ICYMI Feed, Are America's Police About to Become Federales?.
My nephew is a cop.. I went to school with guys that are now cops.. Work out at the gym with cops... Some really good guys.. But some of these guys make me sick to my stomach.. The good ones need to turn on the bad ones to protect the institution..
Unfortunately, they don't, and won't. It is institutionalized into the concept of "brotherhood."
That's EXACTLY why I hold EVERY officer accountable for the actions of every other officer. If you're going to hide behind the "code of silence" then by complacency you are also complicit. For this reason, all cops are dirtbags in my mind. Didn't used to be. Not at all. The question is "how and why did they become such POS's?"
The irony here is that it was... The. Surveillance. Cameras!
Did you know, statistically, you're safer flying a 15 year old Boeing than a brand new 'Air-Bus' ?
What's your sample size? How many incidents are we talking about here?
did you know statistically that you are safer flying drunk? Or at least thats how I fly. Have a couple for us Tyler.
Did you know that anecdotes are 75% more believable with a statistic attached?
Did you know the plural of anecdote is evidence?
Did you know that 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
We have a winner.
Did you know that 50% of liars believe their lies and the remaining 50% don't know they're lying?
Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it...
if you intended to deceive someone but actually told them the correct answer, is it still a lie?
lmao--three kinds of lies:
1. outright falsehood
2. half-truth, and
3. the truth, but it is so outrageous that the recipient thinks it is a lie.
No. 3 is the best artform. We see GS and others doing same, well, sometimes we see murky indications that something is going on.
- Ned
ozzi,
You HAVE to refering to Wm "Bill" Clitton.................batting a 100%.
Did you know that where ever you may go that's where you will be.
"Where ever you go, there you are," is how I remember his adventures.
"82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMQdtyot38s
Not 87, I believe it is 92.436%
+10
"Did you know that anecdotes are 75% more believable with a statistic attached?"
LOL...lemme try one.
Did you know car dealership closings can have a higher negative economic effect in rural areas than in urban areas even though statiscally there was a higher percentage closed in urban areas ;-)
Enjoy.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/race_played_role_in_obama_car.html
pilots have always known that
I've never been in a plane crach when I was drunk either.
then you couldn't "walk" away, you'd have to stumble away. Bad form. - Ned
Notice I'm a huge Boeing koolaider (avatar) but Airbus planes are just as safe, if not safe than Boeing planes....
Quantas bitchez!
Spelling Police Violation : It's Qantas. No "u". "QANTAS", an acronym/initialism for "Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services". See further here.
Actually ... Queers And Nancys Trained As Stewards...........
WORD !!!
Did you know that innuendo is not the italian word for anal sex.
That is correct. It actually transliterates to "enchiladas wrapped in pickle sauce".
That is wrong on at least two levels---and funny ass shit!
bawney fwank doesn't know either
just wait till the dreamliners are delivered
http://cryptome.org/0001/wikileaks-zero.htm
Dear Cryptome:
We at Zero Hedge have watched with interest (and some horror) the Wikievents of the last several weeks. Of particular notice to us recently has been the complete inability (or unwillingness) of Wikileaks to release any new material not related to the self-promotion of its ubiquitous figurehead "Julian Assange." Despite a massive budget, it would seem more than an order of magnitude larger than ours, the Wikileaks enterprise seems totally unable to do more than tweet pleas for patience while sending Mr. Assange to, e.g., Brussels to debate freedom of expression. Where are the millions of documents leakers risked to liberate? This is quite sad for us to see, as we were some of the earliest and most enthusiastic supporters of Wikileaks, as individuals as well as under the umbrella of "Zero Hedge."
We currently run and maintain our own servers for Zero Hedge and see in excess of 500,000 hits per day on normal days, with spikes to nearly a million if something interesting is going on. We've recently upgraded our infrastructure (multi-homed in some of the same jurisdictions Wikileaks uses, as it happens) to deal with our own growth. Consequently, we have quite a bit of spare capacity and bandwidth right now, as well as sufficient financial means to secure same for the foreseeable future. We are long time Cryptome readers, and fairly crypto and INFOSEC savvy (we even have an early member or two from the original cypherpunks list among our senior staff, though none connected with Wikileaks). We manage sensitive sources on a nearly daily basis.
We fight any number of frivolous takedown and legal challenges from well resourced institutions (investment banks, hedge funds, etc.) monthly. As individuals and an organization, we seek to avoid, rather than ravenously pursue, press of any kind. (We get enough headaches from the media without even trying, thank you very much). Moreover, while we are focused on finance, we are philosophically aligned with the ORIGINAL premise and mission of Wikileaks: The liberation of raw data. Our "manifesto" might give you an idea of the sorts of goals that drive us:
http://www.zerohedge.com/about
We have no doubt that directly contacting Mr. Assange would serve no real purpose, as it would seem control of even an inactive Wikileaks is something Assange would never willingly relinquish. Nor, given the allegations about the personal use of donor funds, would we be willing to associate ourselves with Mr. Assange until a full accounting were made. We seriously doubt this will ever come to pass. The figures currently claimed by the organization as needed funds are FAR in excess of what is even plausibly required for such a firm- given our experience running what is now a "Top 100" Technorati site (and consistently Top 1 or Top 2 in the Business category) for the last 18 months.
Unfortunately, it seems impossible to contact Wikileaks directly without passing an Assange filter first, so we have not bothered to offer our help directly to Wikileaks. We would, however, be quite interested in hearing from other members of the organization how we could help return Wikileaks to its roots. At the moment we aren't sure what form that might take. Clearing house for data? Secure submission node? Research and analysis? Managing sources and source material? Whatever the case, it is a huge pity to watch the continued squandering of Wikileaks, both as a concept and an execution. Perhaps, given your apparent status as an interim contact point for the Wikileaks rank-and-file, this note might be helpful.
Please feel free to post this material as you see fit under the header "An Open Letter to Wikileaks Insiders."
"Marla Singer"
co-founder
Zero Hedge
http://www.zerohedge.com
marla[at]zerohedge.com
Thank you Marla, and ZH for being the First Amendment, and not simply talking about it whilst cowering when ´the man´arrives at your door. I know too little about wikileaks to hold any opinion other than it seems they are unable to execute rapidly, and spend more time fund raising than actually publishing interesting material. We shall see.
Agreed. Thanks to Marla and the rest of the ZH team for making the finest website in cyberland!
I agree that something is fishy about Wikileaks in general. I watched his recent TED interview and I was shocked to hear that Assange couldn't release any material because he was short of money needed to hire people to filter and edit material. Anybody with half a brain can see that this is utter nonsense. Why not release a story or two? Also, why is he "on the run"? Why has he, and his partner (Appelbaum) come out as nominal "heads" of Wikileaks? Why not keep it all quiet?
I have to say this and the barrage of criticism around wikileaks these days all sounds like a cointelpro attack, designed to stir up controversy and dissent among anti-estblishment groups. pretty sad. the collateral damage video was more effective then alot of other things done to try and make people aware of the present horrible state of affairs we live in. i think after that victory people should be more reluctant to jump the gun criticizing wikileaks. it's all too much perfectly timed with the governments actions against wikileaks. smells of disinfo. we all know now thanks to the washington post that 850,000 people work with high security clearance for american intelligence. that's the new stasi. maybe some of this criticism is coming from a few of those 3/4 million?
they even are trying to smear assange on tv....check this out
http://www.tvfanatic.com/2010/07/the-good-wife-casting-news-tammy-blanch...
Cmon ZH, reinvest your hard earned money back into zerohedge, not some crackpot website determined to bring down the American military.
It's 1:50 AM I just woke up here, and I am going to post an idea so I can read response in the morning.
Please post a better idea if you can.
--
I have a fair amount of libraries, malls, public gathering places, riverfront parts with huge amounts of population nearby:
I got an idea to write a small brief mentioning some quotes regarding the federal reserve and to extrapolate some content from this website (charts/ briefs) and try to make it into a one page digestible bit and hope that they are interested to pick up this research on their own.
I was sleeping when I got this, so I had to put it up here.
I could get the word out to a few thousand people in a weekend fairly easily.
Now, my problem on how to go about doing this, so that whatever I hand to them gets them to research on their own - rather than discard.
Hopefully someone else can help!
Time to continue to go back to sleep.
Marla is such a drama queen.
PGP'ed message. LoL. I'm going to encrypt my super secret "Open Letter" to Wikileaks.
"An Open Letter to Wikileaks Insiders."
I gotta protect the content of this message from the data savages or Zion will not be saved.
Good find Gully.
By the way, since this is an open thread, I thought I'd share something I'd shared with Ty/Marla etc. some months ago.
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Was reading your FOMC minutes article last week (Dennis someone or the other's analysis of them) and something struck me as really odd.
Did Greenspan actually say that the basement of the FED or NY FED is foreign land? I sure as heaven read that.
As you all like to say, WTF?
Is that common knowledge and am I missing something? Are all FED basements foreign territories? Will that help them at some point when the proverbial poo hits rotating ceiling machine? What contorted legal privileges does that gives the FED/FEDS in case of some trumped up emergency?
Is it German territory perchance?
A simple (HA!) FOI request should sort this one out. Or again, maybe common knowledge. But think for a moment of how twisted legal eagles (especially them that wrote most of the laws anyways) could use that to their benefit.
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Is it my tin-foiler or does it really smell of something?
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Went to your website, ORI. Is that you making music? Somehow the musician seemed to be getting sounds out of the guitar that resemble a harmonium. Very interesting! You seem to be "connected" to reality in a way that many of us neurotic westerners can only wish. Please keep commenting on ZH.
Hi Escape, yes that is me playing on the youtube links. Really glad to hear/read your genuine appreciation. Pushing boundaries keeps one always discovering the unusual.
And if something I've written here gave you pause to reflect, thanks again for your attention.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
heya OrI ~
you may find the following of interest:
"The United States of America" that first appeared as a principal via the Act of October 23, 1918 appears to have been established via mutual assistance agreements and/or political compacts between territories and insular possessions of the United States some time after 1909. Cumulative evidence suggests that this entity is actually the "Federal United States of America," not to be confused with the original. . ."
http://famguardian1.org/PublishedAuthors/Media/Antishyster/V10N2-WhoAreI...
it's a link to a Freedom of Information Act request to answer the question "Who Are the IRS & USA" - while not entirely on topic with Greenspan's "quote" - in fact, it's all the same legal-speak that affords the Fed, and the IRS (Fed' collection agency in the form of "taxes") the "rights" to exist separate from the United States.
I'll warn ya tho' - this is "down the rabbit hole" stuffs, heheh. . .
Hey CA,
Thanks for the link.
I love a good rabbit-hole.
If you have some more like it, share away. Cold and Rainy days in Bangalore, I need a warm bed and a dark rabbit hole or three.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
hmm, I should hesitate to link you reading material when you could be making more music! love the links on your blog - have already sent them on to music making expat friends in taiwan, consider yourself a global contagion!
but, if you must read, and like good mystery-stories, here's a couple to at least skim through:
http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-bolshevik-rev.html
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
(scroll down to end for interesting Q & A's)
http://www.eu-facts.org/en/background/dark_roots_europe_lecture.html
some background listening noise? just in case!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukythkK4EPQ
that should move you through the full moon / monsoon daze. . .
Thank you CA, for the links and the music complement. :-)
Taiwan eh? Hmmmmm....
I'll read some of these links and catch you on some thread to report on my increased instability as a result!
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
there is a music festival organised in Taiwan every year, Spring Scream, a cornucopia of differing musics & peoples - the organisers are long-time friends of my long-time friend, all amrkn ex-pats who chose Taiwan after years of world travelling. . . p'haps next year? if we all "survive", hehe. . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Scream
Cool festival.
Here's to head-held-high survival and see you in Taiwan...
Of course the web-site is in Taiwanese! :-)
Have you been/seen/heard there?
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
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Double.
Open thread..? Awesome, who killed JFK? Just kidding...
Have a safe trip and remember to bend at the knees if you drop anything in Greece.
The Fed killed JFK.
+11110
Xed,
End game around them, and start printing US Bank Notes,(which he did) and you will get in a world of caca.
I have agreed, stated this same idea for 25 yrs.........IMHO, he was the only real POTUS we have had since.When you game the SYSTEM, no matter who you are..........anyone can be gotten to.
The one nice thing about the fed is that there are only 12 branches.
Just 12.
"Life insurance pays off triple if you die on a business trip. " ;)
"Life insurance pays off triple if you die on a business trip." ;)
dude, you need to triple-post for this comment to make sense. But Tyler doesn't care about collection, don'tcha know.
- Ned
Market's beginning to rally on the news that Tyler's going to be out of pocket for 24 hours...
Well, the magic numbers were hit.
DOW 10,400 and at 200 dma and above 50 dma
S&P 1100 and above 50 dma but still below 200 dma
NASDAQ 2250 and above the 50 dma and below the 200 dma
Russell 640 at 200 dma and below 50 dma
Now that they've hit the targets and the markets appear over bought, how much panic buying can they count on from here, even if they goose the markets artificially.
Seems (impossibly) all boxes are checked from gov:
asset prices back to 2008 range...check
bond yields at extreme lows...check
interest costs of national debt back to 2004 levels...check
gold falling on the ramp to boot...check
dogs and cats living in harmony...check
The realm of pure fiction achieved. Now if we could just fold space..........
in a black hole, where everything is heading
"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." - Adolf Hitler
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -- George OrwellRabid,
Likely you know, Hitler, and Gobbels, did not come up with this line of Propaganda.............
They learned it from the Wilson Adminstration.............and a Top member of it.
Just like Eugenics...............
Wasn't their original idea either................
The great George Bernard Shaw, and Margaret Sanger were preaching this CRAP years before them.
Even Goebbels declared where they got their ideas on Proaganda,(Wilson's Admin).
He was an avowed racist,and next to a couple of Modern Presidents, likely the worst we ever had...............after all his signature brought us the FRA of 1913.
"Propaganda" Edward Bernays.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=bernays&sts=t&tn=propag...
don'tcha know
- Ned
CD - are you questioning the powers of authority? Don't piss off the gods or they will piss on you. This game is no longer technical or fundamental. It is about what they want and only that. I know you know that and am not dissin you. I agree with your asessment, but had to state what I believe reeality has become.
I understand.
May I add that we might wish to modify your "what I believe reality has become" to "what I believe reality has always been".
The more I poke and prod, meaning the more I lift the veil, the more I begin to understand that it has always been this way. It's just that our awareness level is growing at the same time their ability to hide or obscure their actions diminishes. The further back I look, the more obvious it becomes that this has always been the way it is. It simply more egregious and blatant than just 5 or 10 years ago.
This is the sign that the wheels are coming off. And a sign that I need to remind myself on a daily basis that desperate men do desperate things, including an almost certain escalation of violence. And also that those around me who are caught in the same web of lies and deceit can't be counted on for support as I fight against the system.
Those who are dependant upon the system will fight to remain within the system. So those whom I would think might be natural allies may actually be my newest enemies. A truly sobering realization.
I would have to believe then that what we are going through is a normal and healthy process. To not go through it would prevent us from growing.
Most people will reject your statement because to fully internalize it means that we must shoulder our share of the burden and responsibility for our present situation rather than point fingers at they or them as evil and we as victims and the innocently oppressed.
I've written extensively about this in my 5 part series "Welcome to the Insane Asylum". Being a full time victim is a learned and conditioned behaviour and our society has been designed to reinforced our own victimhood.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/welcome-insane-asylum-%E2%80%93-seeking-moral-courage-chapter-5
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33507389/Welcome-to-the-Insane-Asylum-Our-Collective-Psychosis
There is no doubt that some people are beginning to develop symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome.
Couldn't resist..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCgJvr9I8LA&feature=related
carbon,
You are far too kind "SOME PEOPLE"...................
These are the Sheeple, and their numbers far outweigh those that are Awake.
They are incapable of rational thought, or refuse to SEE the truth, and believe if they just go about their lives as normal, then all things will WORK OUT.
These are the one's that will be thrown not only Under the Bus, but In Front of It.
It is time to take a stand or be buried alive by the Hollow Men of Economics.
http://gregor.us/oil/hollow-men-of-economics/
Cognitive Dissonance
You spewed self aggrandizing bullshit. Some new agey mumbo jumbo and pop economics because you felt the need for accolades.
But what I don't get is your own family, the people who should know and respect you the most, despised your child rearing advice.
Further more you stated your son went through a lying phase, yet you have no idea where that came from. Kids emulate their PARENTS. If your kid is a weak liar that's what he learned from YOU.
Really dude, if you want to help people why aren't you a Doctor, or a volunteer for some community group?
Because total strangers fall for a line of bullshit easier than the ones looking you straight in the face.
So sure some confused souls confuse your hoodo babble with real wisdom, but fuck Deepak Chopra has his rubes too. Same shit different asshole.
"Fundamentally the archer aims at himself"
-Zen and the Art of Archery
"Deep space is my dwelling place".
Gully,...........if you are from where i think then Now Hear This;
www.hazeldooney.com
Gully Foyle
You promised everyone, including the police and your pastor, that you would stop doing speed balls and lines of coke and chasing male hookers down on Main street trying to moon them. And that you would stop with your hate filled incoherent rants on Zero Hedge.
And yet here you are again doing exactly what you said you wouldn't do anymore. You promised you would stop acting like a scorned 13 year old girl and come to grips with the fact that I don't love you and I never did. I smiled nicely at you once while you bagged my groceries and that's all. That doesn't give you permission to stalk me and harass me.
I'm a heterosexual Gully. I've been happily married for 25 years and I'm not interested in dating you. Period. I not interested in a homosexual fling with you either. There's nothing wrong with what you are. It's just not my cup a tea. I know you feel hurt and rejected but you just need to get over it.
Please, get back on your meds and grow up.
<sarcasm>
Hahahaha. Ouch!
CD : Remind me not to piss you off....
I seem to remember God telling us elsewise. Lolz.
It was funny how you constantly attacked God. As if he was trying to muscle his way onto your territory or somethink....
Complex mush CD?
"I've been happily married for 25 years".
With the amount of time spent on ZH harassing persons unsubscribed to CD-groupthink I can say that I doubt the 'happily' part of your statement...
That is all.
dude, I'm sure anyone "happily married for 25 years" will share their "secret" with you - continuing to encourage independence from the partnership, while still maintaining integrity within mutually agreed upon parameters - also, unless you're part of a herd mentality, then every relationship is unique, and defined by the participants, hmm?
and yes, I realise you were trying to diss the Cog - fail.
+ 100 to you both Cog Dis and Cathartes.
This year marks our 25th Anniversary. Cathartes, great point about independence and integrity, that has worked well for us.
As Cog Dis well knows, I have always valued his remarks.
and ++ 25 years to you sir!
people forget that relationships involve humans, and can be adapted to suit - well done for re-membering.
best to you - both.
Gully,
Your small penis is the not the issue. You can buy an extension or find a partner who never laughs. Being rude to CD because of your pencil dick is just mean.
Go F--k yourself little dick mf'r
Yeah, but. Gully does make a point that can't be ignored. While I respect CD for his courage and his struggle against the abuse he suffered while young, I found his disquisitions tedious as well. Interesting that CD looses his cool and refutes by attack (in the non-PC mode of gay-bashing--très rélévateur!). As far as I can tell, Gully is trying to point out the need to avoid Deepak Chopra types who engage in solipsitic rumination and, by virtue of the inherent self-referential nature of solipcism, mistake that for wisdom. There is a real danger, epistomologically speaking, in this kind of philosophizing. People are taken in by sincerity and often mistake that for profundity. I, for one, found little to be profound or compelling in the five part series and could not continue reading, which began to seem more like an effort to get inside CD's head coupled with an increasingly dubious payoff. Sincerity is one of the first red flags one should watch for: witness Obama. Reminds me of a quote from Gore Vidal, "Whenever I hear the word 'love', I reach for my gun."
FD, I'm somber.
Incidently, someone I admire unreservedly also suffered incredible abuse as a child and went on to be one of the world's greatest journalists: Richard Rhodes. He too uses the abuse he suffered as a child as a springboard to understand violence as it plays out in manifold ways in society, whether that be the atomic bomb (two majesterial volumes), serial psychopaths ("Why They Kill"), etc.
I assume you don't recognize that Gully Foyle has been attacking me just about daily for over 6 weeks and that the vast majority of time I ignore it completely. I also assume you don't know that Gully Foyle's attacks only began after I posted a polite comment below his/her 3,500 word re-post of someone else's article. Gully rarely posts his own words but instead uses others, always with the proper attribution of course. When Gully does use his/her own words, you begin to understand why s/he re-posts.
The re-post consumed half the comment area of the article it was below and Gully has been doing this since s/he joined ZH. I politely asked Gully Foyle to stop posting entire articles by other authors but rather to post a few sentences, a link and then his thoughts or summary. This was an entirely reasonable request and was seconded by half a dozen other readers. The comment section of ZH is intended to be used as a place to post the readers thoughts, not the constant re-posting of others thoughts in their entirety. Gully Foyle is a serial re-poster of admittedly good articles. I objected to the length of the re-posting, not the re-posts.
Since that time, and only after my comment, has Gully Foyle deemed my posts, comments and articles to be terrible and dangerous fare for all to read and s/he has launched into an incoherent ranting campaign that has been noticed and rejected by many ZH readers. As another ZH commenter said a week ago under one of Gully's rants, Gully Foyle is acting like a scorned 13 year old girl.
Regarding your comments, as I have said before, people generally fall into two camps regarding my writing. They either like it a lot or that hate it.....a lot. Not just dislike it or neutral about it but they downright hate it. So be it. As Marla Singer said to me after Tyler invited me to become a contributor, the ZH audience will determine if my writing is garbage or not. Some readers find it is garbage. Most do not, with nearly all my articles receiving read numbers in the upper 20% and the 5 part series registering in the top 5%.
Rather than point your finger at me and what I write, may I suggest you take a look inside and understand why my writing sparks such a reaction within you. There are some ZH authors and commenters that I dislike. I simply don't read them. Or when I do, I'm careful to examine why I'm reacting in a manner that elicits anger and dislike in myself. I have found that understanding why I do or say things is much more valuable than understanding why someone else does or says things.
CD, thanks for your measured and reasonable reply. I am not one who despises your articles. I made an effort to follow you and it simply didn't pan out for me. Perhaps it's just me, but I need context to gain insight. Usually that means historical, scientific, literary, artistic, or other references. I love it when somebody says something that causes a light to go on, and that's why I'm addicted to ZH. So many intelligent people in one place--our virtual Athens, if you will. Yes, Gully is sometimes over the top, but I do sense a kernal of truth in his criticisms, though he has too much vitriol. Perhaps I'm dead wrong. I bear you no ill will.
Just as an example, I tried reading Cormac McCarthy a year ago but got nowhere with that. I could never figure out who was saying what and got frustrated. Then someone on Zerohedge responded to a sarcastic post I made wherein I had referenced "The Road" and that led me to Youtube, which led me in turn to a couple filmed lectures of Amy Hungerford on McCarthy's "Blood Meridian". Absolutely astounding!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgyZ4ia25gg&feature=channel
I concur with your assessment that the current fucked up state of things now is probably the same as it ever was. It's just that in this day & age with the readily availability of information/misinformation on these interwebs, the "lower strata of society" has begun to breach the ruling class' veil of secrecy. it's easier now than at any time in history to learn about their doings... and/or to learn about different versions of events... The trick these days is knowing how to sort the wheat from chaff. ZH serves as an excellent pre-filter to eliminate the chaff (MSM bullshit).
FWIW, this nobody does appreciate the depth & message of your writing very much... You're an excellent writer. But I have to admit I also find it tends to get a bit ethereal & self-aggrandizing for my taste. I think you need to get over yourself just a bit. But I'd be the first to admit that perhaps I am just not sophisticated enough to fully appreciate your work. Whatever... You can put a thought into words a hell of a lot better than I.
Now that I've criticized your work, I'll re-iterate that I certainly don't hate it. Please don't categorize me as such. I've just offered a minor criticism (also criticizing myself I would add). Nothing more. Take it as you wish.
I missed the event which garnered GF's wrath/fury/scorn, but I concur it is obvious Mr/Mrs GF has assumed the role recently of CD's personal attack troll.
I have no problem with criticism at all. I learn from other's point of view. We can rarely see ourselves as well as others can. It is the bald faced mindless attacks that I object to. It is clear that Gully Foyle feels personally threatened by me and what I write, causing him to viciously strike out and repeatedly attack me. He deliberately attacks by incoherently twisting my words into a garbled mess which is then spit into my face.
Regarding your criticism, may I suggest that what you may be objecting to is my tendency to use personal stories and events to illustrate thoughts, ideas and concepts. Many people consider this to be conceited, self centered or self-aggrandizing. And they most certainly might be correct. Now, here comes the "but".
When discussing sensitive subjects, particularly subjects that might resonant or push hot buttons with the reader, if I were to use dispassionate terms and speak from the third person perspective and link to other articles and authors, or use terms such as "you" or "them" or "they", the person I'm trying to reach often uses the dispassionate voice used as an excuse to tell themselves it doesn't apply to them, that they are special or immune to what I'm talking about. Or it becomes personal because I use the terms "you" etc.
If I speak from a more personal perspective, if I display my pain and explorations first hand, it can and sometime does invite the reader to come on in and try the water. It allows the reader to try on the emotional pair of shoes without buying them first. They get a chance to play with the idea, put it on and see how they look and feel. If it becomes too emotionally difficult, they can quickly shed the garments and disappear. But at least they tried them on.
This is why I deliberately use the terms "I" and "we" and "us" while writing rather than "You" or "them" or "they". And also why I use personal anecdotes. I don't wish to finger point. And when talking about sensitive subjects, I have two choices. Point to others or point to myself. When was the last time to really listened to someone who was pointing their finger at you while telling you something you didn't like to hear? How receptive were you to that treatment? I don't care if the person was smiling and using flowery language. If they're pointing at you, even if they also include themselves in the subject matter, all you will see and hear is the finger pointed directly at you. It quickly becomes personal.
My writing is personal. My pieces aren't "articles" in the literal sense. They are opinion pieces. In fact, they are closer to stories told among close and trusted friends who are feeling comfortable enough to let their guards down rather than news or information. In a world where we're taught to maintain our guard, to keep everyone out of our personal space, to be on the defensive, my introspective pieces are almost intrusive or rude precisely because they are so personal.
Seen from that perspective, my deliberate style of self explanation and introspection will appear for all the world to be the ultimate in naval gazing narcissistic behaviour. Consider though that I constantly expose my flaws and mistakes for all to see. And that I do so in order to invite the reader to do so as well.
The most common complaint I hear from people who I personally interact with about my writing is that I talk about myself. I always ask them who they would like me to talk about that would have the same impact without them being personally hurt or insulted. The most common praise I get from these very same people is that my writing touched them. I offer that one can't happen without the other, that because I exposed myself to them, they were more willing to allow themselves to be touched.
Fair enough.
"You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all part of the same compost pile."
This quote from the movie about the club we're not supposed to talk about quite well resonates with me. I think the message is really addressed more to the banking community, but nevertheless it serves me well to keep from getting too full of myself (he said while punching himself in the face).
Fair enough back at you.
"but nevertheless it serves me well to keep from getting too full of myself"
Thinking about yourself and your place in the universe in order to find peace within this horrible cruel brutal unfair universe is in my view not being too full of oneself, but rather finally trying to find our tiny little place, our consciousness, in this huge universe of unconscious beings.
Why is it that when we attempt to know more about ourselves society feels we're too involved with ourselves? It's like after we pass 2 years old, we aren't allowed to explore our own world anymore, which BTW is entirely between our two ears. After 2 years of age, we must simply step back and let others fill our universe with propaganda and indoctrination. God forbid I should fight back to reclaim what's mine, which was ripped from me without my consent and before I could defend myself.
I'm not trying to dominate others or take from others or even lord it over others. I'm trying to find peace and happiness, contentedness, by searching in the only place this will ever be found. Within.
Unfortunately for too many this is extremely uncomfortable, almost like touching oneself sexually in public. Most certainly not to be discussed or done in public. I can scratch my head, my neck, my arm in public. But not my balls. In the same vein, there are public limits to what we can and can't discuss, explore and expose of our minds and ourselves in public.
Whoa, wait a minute buddy, put that mind back where you found it. :>)
Cd, I'm experiencing some cognitive dissonance myself trying to reconcile these two quotes.
"nearly all my articles receiving read numbers in the upper 20% and the 5 part series registering in the top 5%." And...
"I'm trying to find peace and happiness, contentedness, by searching in the only place this will ever be found. Within."
You track the number of readers to your series and regularly attach a link to your posts. Do you not acknowledge your need for outsider's affirmation?
Not being critical here, I'm as fucked up as anyone. However, maybe you take yourself a bit too seriously?
Hi Wee Willy
"Not being critical here, I'm as fucked up as anyone. However, maybe you take yourself a bit too seriously?"
Yup, guilty as charged. Then again, we all do at one point or another, don't we? Don't you?
"You track the number of readers to your series and regularly attach a link to your posts. Do you not acknowledge your need for outsider's affirmation?"
I don't track anything. As a contributor at ZH, I see a "read" number next to the title of every story not only by the contributors but Tyler. This read number can't be seen by others, just contributors. Don't ask me why it's there. I was never told. It was there when I was made a contributor.
So when I pull up ZH and go to the front page, I instantly see how many "reads" each of the 10 or 15 front page articles has received. Same if I click on the contributor page. So every contributor instantly sees not only how well his/her article is doing but how well the others, including Tyler, is doing.
So the tracking is done by the web site and it's impossible to ignore. After a month or so, you get a good feel for what constitutes high and low readership at a glance. For example, this thread has had over 17,000 reads, which is very high and is reflected by the 500 responses and the fact that it was highlighted at the top for nearly 20 hours.
My comment you highlight was in response to criticism you have obviously read. I was inferring that while the person may not like my articles and find them.......whatever, others do find them of value. And it is reflected in the read numbers. Chapter 4 of my series received well over 30,000 reads, the highest I've seen any story receive on ZH, Tyler included. Though I haven't been here from the start.
And yes, I do what my writing to be read. So if wanting my writing to be read fits your description of wanting outside affirmation, than the answer is YES. Should a writer not want to be read? I've seen other contributors comment about their read numbers. Does that mean anything? Because I write and talk about searching within and finding peace, does that mean I should be of "pure" emotion and not have an ego. If so, then any written word by anyone is an expression of ego and I'm no better or worse than them.
I have never claimed to be better or more aware than anyone else. Never. I try to demonstrate this by highlighting my flaws and mistakes. A natural reaction from people who listen to someone discuss our collective flaws will be "Oh, so you think you're better than the rest?" No, I don't. Not at all. I am filled will contradictions and blind spots. This is why I always include myself in my articles. As I said in another comment, how well would you receive an article from me if all I did was say "you" all the time?
I find that people who write about themselves for whatever reason are considered self centered, egoic, narcissistic, whatever. Fine. There will always be people who find the subjects I discuss disturbing, even when they don't admit it to themselves or others, and the solution to this distubance is usually to question the writer's basis and intent. My intent is to openly discuss what so many of us never discuss openly.
There are others who object to my articles, telling me I shouldn't be here, that I don't belong on a financial blog. Take that up with Tyler. He invited me to write whatever I care to write about and he plucked me from the comment section. I didn't ask Tyler to contribute here, he asked me. So he must feel I bring some value to this blog.
So back to your questions about page views. I suspect for Tyler anything that draws and keeps people here is good. I'm certainly part of that equation. So is George Washington. His series on BP has consistently draw very high read numbers, even though some have called his articles alarmist and fear mongering. We are all here writing articles to draw readership and to say otherwise would be a lie. I'm no different.
Finally I don't always add a link to my series in my comments. I only do so when I feel it's appropriate to the subject of the comment. And guess what. People click on it and they also download it from Scribd.com. Which means they find it interesting. While I was writing the series, many people asked in the comment section for a .PDF link they could down load when it was done. That link wasn't ready until the entire series was done and most of the people were no longer returning to the series to find the link. So I'm now providing that link. Others are new to ZH or missed the series. I'm providing a link to it. Again, people are clicking and downloading so some value must be there.
I'm at a big disadvantage among the contributors because I spend the vast majority of my time in the comment section under all the different articles, not just my own, something nearly all the other contributors don't do. Leo does comment in other threads but usually to poke the bees nest. Being in the comment section exposes me to open ridicule and other people stepping in on discussions I have with others. The fact that I open up in the comment section and my articles invites those who are belligerent or mean to pile on. When I occasionally fight back, I'm held to a higher standard that those who are throwing stones and insults. This isn't fair but it is what it is.
My point is simple. Are you holding me to a higher standard than yourself or others? As I have said, I never claim the higher ground yet many people think I do. Are you?
Thanks for your thoughtful and extensive response, CD. I'm not that deep or thoughtful a person, more of an observer. I was merely making an observation, I didn't want it to be perceived as an attack as is so often done on these pages.
I have no "standards" to which I hold myself or others. I try and be a humble, caring and giving person. I have lived too long and seen too much to hold any expectations of anyone else. What I see, I deal with. But that's quite enough about me. Thanks again!
Thank you as well sir. Your questions and responses are an example of polite discussion that I wish everyone would engage in, though many here on ZH do. You mention in another post that you have 30 years as a cop and 10 as a chief so I imagine you have seen your fill of anything but polite discussion.
My hats off to you for maintaining your civility in a position that must try that very civility on a daily basis. I don't think I could maintain mine under similar circumstances.
Thanks CD, see you on the boards! Your philosophy reminds me somewhat of Ram Dass. Was he an influence?
No he has not. I had never heard of the person until you mentioned it and I googled it. My philosophy is, and continues to be, pretty much home grown and derived mostly from deep inner searches. I have done very little reading at all on this/these subjects. As I have begun to publicly talk about what I've found, many people are kind enough to direct me to others who have similar thoughts. You have apparently done so as well. Thank you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Dass
Normal & Healthy Process: Fuck all of the little people that believed their leaders and believed in institutions - check
"the more I lift the veil" You find that there's no brown-eyed beauty there but a K-street whore that will pick your pocket and knife you in the back before you can sneeze or cry for help......
No, no, no. The PIMPS are on K Street. Their whores work the corner of Independence and Constitution Avenues.
Sheesh . . . tourists!
That's a joke, right?? The corner of Independence and Constitution Avenues ...
Of course.
At least the whores give something in return.
The pimps are selling something they never owned in the first place.
TL, OT, what bird? 10,000 parts flying in loose formation, all provided by the lowest bidder.
- Ned
"It simply more egregious and blatant than just 5 or 10 years ago"
The controllers are now confident they can get away with anything. They have now got away with 9/11 so are not desperate at all. If any thing they are cocky !
I would say that 9/11 was in fact an act of desperation, the "all in", the "no turning back now" moment that forced those sitting on the fence to commit.
In fact, I don't see it as an act of control but an admission that their ability to fine tune and influence the public mind had ended and they needed to bring out the brute force. This is always the sign of desperate measures being deployed and the end game.
Those who are dependant upon the system will fight to remain within the system. So those whom I would think might be natural allies may actually be my newest enemies. A truly sobering realization.
Wow... more and more like the Matrix every day. Thanks CD. As usual, great point.
CD - all me a late bloomer. I've always been intrigued by the conspiracy side and had an interest, but never dreamed this much would come to reality. The puppets we complain about every day have no power. The world's wealth is being sucked dry by the second by the elite powers that are attempting to reform the world to conform to their design. I assume all we can hope for is that they have gone to far. That this meltdown wipes them out as well and somehow we can manage a route back to our Constitutional state and start over. The destruction that is to come will be tremendous. Hopefully we can put the manipulators and MSM aside and come together as one and take out nation back.
Well the internals seem to be supporting it. But the real test will come Monday morning when the EU bond market has to decide on what kind of rates this EU press release justifies.
Oooh! Is there time enough for me to sell all my gold and get in?
Will I make enough to retire in the next week or so?
CNBS producers sticking to their guns and keeping the bullish bias in force today.
In other news, Steve Leesman ties Beaker (dennis kneale) and wolfe blitzer as the biggest fool on TV.
Weekend at the Tower of Basel?
Enjoy...!
Bid thee safe travels.
Hope Tyler "packed" his flyingpasties before getting scanned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1_K2FYIEY8
Be careful Tyler, servants of The Enemy are everywhere!! Trust nobody!
Aw, those TSA folks are just sweet...and SMART too!
The Eu is a fail in every way.