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After the rather tumultuous events of the past 48 hours, it is time to take a moderate to quite moderate break. Please use this space to hyperventilate, or else breathe normally, at your leisure.


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Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:37 | 814260 traderjoe
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Open thread Bitchez!

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:45 | 814286 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:52 | 814297 Clapham Junction
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You tell 'em, big daddy.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:53 | 814468 Malcolm Tucker
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Canada is a fucking police state. I know this is old news but when you read the details and, more importantly, see the videos it really hits home.




Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:17 | 814546 breezer1
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canada has a long history of police abuse towards its citizens. the g20 tactics have been used many times in the past against political protestors. 

the most recent history i came across was the greek riots in toronto. the attacks then were probably more racial but everything boils down to politics.

our politicians here are bought and paid for long before they get elected. police the world over have a siege mentality. the majority have lost the ability to think beyond duty and following orders and the 'blue wall'. easily manipulated by the money. the best way to fight this abuse is to get physical gold and silver. think about it.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:22 | 814560 Malcolm Tucker
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I agree with you. Universal currency like gold and silver comes in handy when you need to get the fuck out of dodge...

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:24 | 814810 flacon
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Just don't forget about Pissburgh G20 - the police abducted people right off the street in plain sight. 

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 06:17 | 815253 Hephasteus
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What did the G20 do yesterday? Practice killing people. Develop technology to kill, maim or incapacitate people. Build prisons.

It's the same fucking thing over and over forever.


Torture chamber-prison


Hired thug- legitimate "army".

Policing army-combatized police force.

It's all flight or fight response. The sociopaths are full of big promises pure lies and evasions. Substitutions and forgeries. Acting and stagecraft.

The psychopaths are all fight. You're always wrong. Or we'll kill you. Paying a fine is less cruel than prison. Various forms of punishment. Nobodies giving them De-Assertiveness training until people finally get so fed up they gut and put their heads on pikes and slaughter their sociopath buddies.

What is funny is the spiritual bullshit that goes around. They KNOW THEY are going to lose control. Here's the cover story. They will be taken away and sent for further spiritual training. BULLFUCKING SHIT. They'll be taken away where they can conspire together to govern us again. Then they'll come back with slightly modified trickery and brutality. Same fucking story for all of recorded human history.


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 07:34 | 815280 Z
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Merry Inflation and a Happy New Currency

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:22 | 814556 Sockeye
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This is scary stuff. Slippery slope indeed.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:39 | 814603 Barry McBear
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Toronto was a police state in some parts of town that weekend, while complete anarchy prevailed in other parts deemed less important to the police.  As stores along Yonge St were attacked by vandals and thieves, the police were nowhere to be found...

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:14 | 814674 andia
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These guys attacking Toronto shops were  packs of undercover, special task security forces aimed to discredit legitimate protestors.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 05:27 | 815243 Golden monkey
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You never know who's really behind the operation.

The other day, I noticed a fat monkey posting comments on

seekingalpha while I leaved a laptop unattended at the local

Dunkin Donuts. Canada really sucks.

I try to follow the man to fuck his wife, but t  loose him.

Next time I will get both.


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 06:50 | 815266 sabra1
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montreal still has the best bagels and smoked meat!

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 13:29 | 815521 AAPL_Short
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You know, things will take a bit more to escalate over in the US and Canada. But escalate they will. Where I am from, every male has gone through mandatory one year military service. You can't harass our guys without risk. Or like in Switzerland, where every male has an assault rifle with ammunition in a locked cupboard at home. Millions of them. That has a calming effect on the powers that be.

And we have old people around still having experienced WW2. They've seen shit in their lives and killed. Just to survive. They would be quick to urge others to take action, again, if normal people were treated like that.

Then again, that is conducive for excess violence on the part of the powers that be being reciprocated fast, furiously, early and in an organized manner. In the US and Canada, things will get really bad and the response will be anarchy.

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 09:06 | 816776 blindfaith
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I don't know if everyone has forgotten Kent State or simply has no idea of it (seeing as how Civics and history are rewritten yearly by the book-masters in Texas as they see fit).  If there IS any anarchy in either country, you can bet it will be more bloody than anyone can will be a massacre of epic proportions. 

The populous has become a populous of hot-heads rilled up to quite but frenzy states by disappointment, media manipulations, corrupt business and government, indifference, failed compassion, and the biggest enemy of all... fear of the unknown.  This quiet population observed is like a grain of sand that begins an avalanche, and at what point can the sand pile become stable again?

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 14:39 | 817080 jakethesnake76
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Don't give them your anger thats what they want .. Give them a firm strength they can't handle that like Gandhi or Jesus , that they can't handle BE STRONG NOT ANGRY

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 14:53 | 817099 WaterWings
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Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:27 | 814811 macholatte
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The roof top perspective (a link embedded inside the first video) is quite remarkable. The cops act just like any group of robotic sheep herders, or predators, working in concert. They surround the victims and then crush them like a garbage compactor. Very revealing and a must see for all.


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:14 | 815006 Mentaliusanything
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That is just ........ I have no words.

The right to peaceful assembly ... gone

the right to free speech ..............gone

The right to reasonable search ...... gone

The right to a speedy trial ..... gone

The right to innocence until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt ...Gone.

The right to take up arms and oppose ..... soon to be gone

V for vendetta or we live under a oppressive regime.... for ever.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 05:21 | 815240 Golden monkey
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Studying fat divorced women that doesn't want to have sex

anymore could help you understand better the Canadian democraty.

I'm proud to live in a society under fat bitchez control. (They just cut all operation clinic budget from our best doctor named Guy Julien because he doesn't handle a provincial liberal member card).

They put me in prison 2 times : building cameras proved I was elsewhere at the "crime" timeframe.

Now under investigation by RCMP for the last 3 years; jury trials are expensive, I guess.


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:52 | 815391 Golden monkey
Sat, 12/18/2010 - 18:32 | 815988 DavidPierre
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Yet another "anti-terror" operation the
government engages in regularly.

When they're not groping old womwn and kids at airports...
...showing up at your front door for "clarification"
of your political ideas...or sending paid operatives
to pose as members of community groups...
they play this game:

Sending police dressed up as demonstrators
to turn peaceful protests into riots.

This video comes from Canada, but the
technique is used in the US every day of
the week.

The truly bizarre thing is no one seems
to know about it.

Every demonstration should have teams
specifically charged with identifying these
gun thugs (they're easy to find), pointing
them out, and blowing their cover.

It's a matter of public safety as these creeps
are there specifically to incite violence.

Your tax dollars at work.

Here's how the adults deal with it.

Police attempt to incite violence...

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 02:55 | 816657 digitalhermit
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Every demonstration should have teams
specifically charged with identifying these
gun thugs (they're easy to find), pointing
them out, and blowing their cover.


... Here's how the adults deal with it.

Agreed! Case in point:

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 09:11 | 816779 blindfaith
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what we, you, can't understand is HOW can so many be so stupid when it is so obvious to you and us?

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 00:05 | 816459 DukkButt
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Here are a couple of good links to show what U.S. police are capable of.

It's just going to get worse.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:58 | 814308 YHC-FTSE
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Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:04 | 814328 AccreditedEYE
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Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:42 | 814836 WaterWings
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FUCK the mass-murder crowd: FUCK the Federal Reserve. FUCK the IRS. FUCK 99% of Congress. FUCK the MIC.

Bless Bradley Manning, Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald, and Tyler fucking Durden.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 12:40 | 815437 Spalding_Smailes
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Take me home country roads...

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 18:33 | 815990 Jendrzejczyk
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Worthless fact, but that song was inspired by a road in Germantown, Maryland and it is lined with McMansions today.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:52 | 814292 DavidPierre
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Le Met ... steps into a breach of the frontline

I did not mean to imply there was something which happened at the CFTC meeting which was newsworthy. Or anything we could have expected to happen which would be. But it seemed to me there was a significant amount of tension building and that the meeting was terminated early and in unexpected fashion. As best as I can recall, here are my impressions of how the CFTC meeting ended:

After covering and voting on several other issues, the commission got to position limits. After presentation of staff recommendations, the commissioners asked questions. Chilton was last and he very carefully and tactfully extracted from counsel corroboration that the new legislation, in fact, actually gives the authority to the commission to take action against concentrated position-holders beyond the traditional methods of jawboning the exchange and the holder of that position. Then he very carefully sought confirmation that the staff would be presenting monthly reports to the board which would show concentrated position holders. But that was not the point he was getting to. He was, in my opinion, beginning to make the point that the board receiving the reports meant nothing unless they would commit to act on the information. He either alluded to or insinuated that had been the long-term history of the board. Gensler interjected that the staff had done exemplary work in the past and that there was every reason to believe that they would file the reports to the board. (As if Chilton’s point was to reiterate that the staff would be able to produce the reports.) Chilton attempted to tactfully take the discussion to the point that it was not the reports that were needed but that the board would act on the information once it was in hand. At least three times Gensler played stupid and reiterated his faith in staff to produce the reports.

Exasperated, Chilton said words to the effect that. "Well, I’ll let this go for now." Then, I’m pretty darn sure that Chilton, with a flushed face, looked at Gensler and mouthed the words "For now!" which was caught on camera.

The conversation moved to another commission member who asked a question of a person testifying. I missed the exact question and answer, but heard the commissioner reply "Well, that seems problematic." There was subsequently an awkward pause and then Gensler said they would take a 10-minute recess. When people acted surprised he said maybe just 5 minutes. One person spoke up and said to Gensler "I have another meeting I need to go to. As you are aware, you have my proxy. I suggest you use it wisely."

The recess was held and all commissioners came back to the table except Chilton. In his absence, Gensler asked for votes on authorizing that some procedural errors in staff presentation would be corrected. I was away from the TV for a couple minutes but saw Chilton return to the table and I expected the meeting to resume. Why would you adjourn the meeting on the heels of a 10 minute recess? But before I got back to the TV, perhaps 2 minutes after Chilton had returned, the commission had voted to adjourn.

So perhaps I missed something in those brief moments to explain. Maybe they had completed the agenda. It sure did not seem that way to me!!!

Anyway, I’m sure you’ll find out what happened if it was truly out of the ordinary. Just thought you might be interested in my observations.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:56 | 814305 PhattyBuoy
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Is this video on the web somewhere?

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:30 | 814825 flacon
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Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:04 | 814326 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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By you the both sound worried.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:23 | 814559 breezer1
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bix with an open letter and its interesting...

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:58 | 814641 Fred Hayek
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Over at Harvey Organ's terrific site he's got this letter from Tom Harkin.

I never thought I'd be pleased and impressed by something Harkin wrote but the man deserves credit.  Go to the link and you have a copy of his letter to the CFTC commissioners telling them, essentially, the position limits aren't a discretionary call on your part when you feel like doing it.


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:49 | 814966 TruthInSunshine
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Official Zero Hedge song:

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:12 | 815001 xenophobe51
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Zeppelin is awesome, but I was under the impression that Zero Hedge was more about:

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:19 | 815017 TruthInSunshine
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Well played, sir.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:24 | 815024 WaterWings
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Anybody else like Warpaint?

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:04 | 815353 NumberNone
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Sorry for the long post but Creed caught the mood several years ago with ONE:  

Affirmative may be justified
Take from one give to another
The goal is to be unified
Take my hand be my brother
The payment silenced the masses
Sanctified by oppression
Unity took a backseat
Sliding further into regression

One, oh one,
The only way is one
I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind

Society blind by color
Why hold down one to raise another
Discrimination now on both sides
Seeds of hate blossom further
The world is heading for mutiny
When all we want is unity
We may rise and fall, but in the end
We meet our fate together

One, oh one,
The only way is one
One, oh one,
The only way is one
I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind

I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world yeah
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind

I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world yeah
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 23:24 | 816402 PeterB
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More about this...

What do you mean, "I don't believe in God"?
I talk to him every day.
What do you mean, "I don't support your system"?
I go to court when I have to.
What do you mean, "I can't get to work on time"?
I got nothing better to do
And, what do you mean, "I don't pay my bills"?
Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?

If there's a new way,
I'll be the first in line.
But, it better work this time.

What do you mean, "I hurt your feelings"?
I didn't know you had any feelings.
What do you mean, "I ain't kind"?
I'm just not your kind.
What do you mean, "I couldn't be the president of the United States of America"?
Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right?

[Chorus: (repeat)]
If there's a new way
I'll be the first in line,
But, it better work this time.

Can you put a price on peace?
Peace sells...,
Peace sells...,
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
[n+1 times more]
No, peace sells...

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:06 | 815311 Apophis
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ZH could use more CRASS.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:09 | 815314 Apophis
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ZH could use more CRASS.

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 22:04 | 817813 jez
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OK. But with all the db server shenanigans, website name change and lost posts, how about this:


Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:37 | 814262 Cheesy Bastard
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Candy is dandy, but wine is fine!

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:30 | 814392 Blah Blah Blah
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.....liquor is quicker.   Long John Baldry

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:32 | 814400 Cheesy Bastard
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Nicely played!

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:12 | 814538 Cdad
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I'm with Tyler on this one...and I have only one word:  martini

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:34 | 814944 bankonzhongguo
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 ..., but sex won't rot your teeth.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:39 | 814953 Cheesy Bastard
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Incest is best (put your sister to the test)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:58 | 814977 Dr. Sandi
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.....liquor is quicker.

Ogden Nash


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:45 | 815055 Bolweevil
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Liquor in the front.
Poker in the rear.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 04:25 | 815226 Hulk
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rubber balls and liquor

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 22:50 | 817909 Element
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Damn 'boogie woogie music'!

Black Girl, and Burning down the cornfield rocked though, ... and that Duet ... you know the one ... reminds me of Topgun unfortunately.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:39 | 814263 Flakmeister
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I only wish I had something to say....

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:16 | 814349 Clapham Junction
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Your avatar is the 10th SS Panzer Division, I can't remember the name.....


Got it! Frundsburg!


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:53 | 815392 Flakmeister
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 Give the man a schnitzel...

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:39 | 814265 Cistercian
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 After last night's ZH deprivation, I hope this satisfies!

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 04:07 | 815215 RECISION
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Tyler did an interview - for you ZH/Tyler junkies who cant get enough.

Not bad, although a bit long winded.

Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief: 

Words to live by...

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:40 | 814266 Ruth
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Hoping your break gives you a chance to enjoy with Holiday Spirits, to Tyler, Marla, Jana, Sac, Bri and the endless amount of readers and contributors, have a wonder and safe holiday, Love, Ruth

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:15 | 814353 Bolweevil
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Don't forget the gear-head (Travis).

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:10 | 814665 Mercury
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And by the way - what's the deal with Marla's status change and Tyler's (plausibly) bitchy new footnote?

No concern of mine I'm sure but it does sort of look like you suddenly updated the sign on the outside of your bedroom/clubhouse door with a Sharpie and a lot of underling.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:55 | 814881 Oh regional Indian
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Hey Ruth, have you ever thought about the word Ruthless?

I have and do. If Ruthless is what it is, what is Ruthful?

Can Ruth ever be Ruthless?

What is Ruth?

I think semantics is fascinating.

Seriously though, Ruthful? I like the sound of that.


Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:34 | 815041 faustian bargain
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"I want the Ruth!"

"You can't handle the Ruth!"

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:38 | 815046 robertocarlos
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Have you met my Aunt Ruth?

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 04:46 | 815231 Rusty Shorts
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Mama Ruth and Strawberry pies.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:11 | 815315 ToNYC
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As I remember about meeting Aunt Ruth, the connection was bad, the plane was late and we got all mixed up...on Mulholland Drive.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:16 | 815318 ToNYC
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duplicate, edited

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:34 | 814940 Ruth
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Thank you, Bols, and Happy Holidays to Travis, Cornelius and the entire ZH Team!

....and Yes I Am Ruthful, full of Heart;)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:04 | 814985 Howard_Beale
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Good to see you Ruth....glad you are still lurking in the shadows.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:46 | 815059 RockyRacoon
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Hey!  Get a room.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:42 | 814267 Cow
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Best Wishes for the Warmest Christmas Regards


Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:12 | 814790 lynnybee
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L.O.L ......... very dry sense of humor ... that made my day !   thanks.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:40 | 814269 bugs_
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bugs_ cries like boehner

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:25 | 814378 Andy
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never thought I'd say this, but I miss Marvin and HAL9002 with this server crap...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:56 | 814636 Sisyphus
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Andy Dufresne?

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:58 | 814642 Andy
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the velobabed one

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:25 | 814695 Sisyphus
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LOL. Miss your participation Mr. Dufresne. I hope all's well and the work on the boat is going as planned. Time and pressure, my friend; time and pressure, that's all there is to it.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:27 | 814699 Andy
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Zihuatanejo is closer to NYC that I thought, working on it...

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:35 | 814717 Sisyphus
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And I am still working on my parole. See you there one day.

That pimple faced dork on the parole board. The fucker. Doesn't understand a word about rehabilitation and how I am now reformed. Always rejects my request.


Time and pressure. Festivus Miracle. Time and pressure.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 08:40 | 815292 Frankie Carbone
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Did you fail to tell the board that you are now an active volunteer and member of the Republican party and in good standing? 

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 04:53 | 815237 Milestones
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Spent 6 weeks there--Playa del Ropa. My very favorite beach town in Mexico.   Milestones

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:41 | 814271 doomandbloom
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hey i cant seem to access again...!!!


jus' kiddin :P

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:41 | 814272 Nepenthe
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How did everyone cope?  I chose a pinot from Australia out of a cardboard box... 

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 20:32 | 814399 Blah Blah Blah
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....hid out in my cardbox and tried to keep warm burning paper money.  Ouch, that might not be too funny after all is said and done.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:05 | 814512 SteveNYC
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Pink Floyd (Saucerful of Secrets); Shavasana; some deep breathing; unconsciousness

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:16 | 814544 RobotTrader
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No doubt, one of the best Floyd songs of all time...

Pompeii 1971


Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:27 | 814578 SteveNYC
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Now that's what I call a POST!! A call out to the universe......

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:37 | 814601 nmewn
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Floydness...comfortably numb.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 21:48 | 814625 SwingForce
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Yes, baby geniuses all. Have you read Robert Prechter's BEATLES report? He identifies bear market songs and bull market songs. I love the Beatles, and PF, but I was floored to learn the early 70's was a Bear Market! Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath (all my favorites) all bear market bands, I hope it bodes well for the future! My favorite song is Comfortably Numb, which is what The Fed is shooting for.


Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:00 | 814764 SteveNYC
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I've thought about this, my personal theory is that when the pursuit of money, material things, and status, are exposed for what they really are (meaningless and downright destructive) during recession/depression periods, the human mind bursts into a period of majestic creativity, expressed through music and art.

This would also explain why half of the 80's, all of the 90's and 00's have been bereft of any real original, unique, creative music.

Now, we are stuck with reality TV and "packaged" commercial music, utter crap. The last hope for creativity and awakening is a good old period of austerity.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 13:37 | 814896 Oh regional Indian
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Her's some original music.

Mine though, be warned! ;-)


Just Drums


Some of us are trying.



Sat, 12/18/2010 - 06:59 | 815269 breezer1
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lets not forget government grants doled out to the favored arts groups and select artists. helps to keep them quiet.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:24 | 815366 Chump
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I never considered any of that.  Very good post.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:32 | 814831 High Plains Drifter
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I used to like that one. Matter of fact, I liked just about everything the Floyd did.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:15 | 814646 Mercury
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The Echos from this performance is off the hook too:

Check out the monster bass break at 6:27.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:54 | 814753 I_Rowboat
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The "sunrise" moment on side B of Meddle absolutely blew my fuckin' mind when I first heard it back in high school.  I was peaking on LSD at the time.  Amazing.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:38 | 814845 High Plains Drifter
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Did you ever try any magic mushrooms?

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:25 | 814906 I_Rowboat
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Only by the pound-ful.  Mushrooms were a lot of fun -- good for a Ween show and other light-hearted stuff.  LSD always made me want to investigate the very nature of reality,   which is a serious thing to undertake when you also happen to be incredibly high, not to mention the little eyes staring at you.  And the gnomes.  Those goddamn gnomes.


My sister and I both watched "Bad Lieutenant" (Harvey Keitel) at an arthouse movie theatre in town - very much a not-funny movie.  The mushrooms made us both laugh at all the wrong moments, which seemed to shock and appall the right-thinking sensitive types in the audience all around us.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:01 | 815349 nmewn
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"I was peaking on LSD at the time."

It was a wild ride for me too back then.

Window pane, Mr.Natural blotter (I got his nose what did you get?...LOL)...strawberry fields...did more than my share.

My last was LSD25 at sixteen...unknown to me it was a seven way hit, it was an accident, not intentional.

I remember riding my bike in the middle of the 4' double line gap of 9th. Street in the was just getting dark...the trails of the headlights were awesome...I was trying to cross to the other side to get to my buddies house (we had become separated earlier, he was somewhat more straight than me...just beer) I realized...or thought I realized...that I could trust my ears better than my eyes and dove through the traffic up a driveway onto the sidewalk and on to his house.

Watched Ice Station Zebra sweating like a pig (goin up)...parachutes on the walls...wavey walls...the whole shabang.

Lost two days of my life...right in there ;-)

It was my last time.

My advice to anyone reading this who has thought of trying psychedelics...those who have done it will know what I have to be well adjusted excessive prior bouts with depression, anxiety or even the reverse, in my opinion (meaning overly positive outlook generally or on an ego trip which could lead to a Superman jump) should not try it.

You really do have to know yourself and not lie to yourself about any shortcomings to even think of trying it. You have to be confident in yourself.

The buddy I was with at that time, about six months before, dropped some and we went and seen The Exorcist changed his life forever...for the showed up later in his life. His deal was a massive ego I think.

It was a different time back then where profit was a secondary motive not the prime motive for making it.

The only reason I'm sharing my story is, it really is dangerous shit for some people.

For those of us who survived...we barely remember what the door mouse said...LOL.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 14:14 | 815578 SteveNYC
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That is actually very good advice. I have never really used drugs at all, a little pot here and there and some booze, nothing else. Although one time I did sample some hash brownies that may have had something else in them.....started off all nice, I was merging with things, separation between objects disappeared for a while.....then I got horrible dries, started swigging water, and the paranoia kicked sucked for about the next 5 hours, badly.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 19:48 | 816078 nmewn
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Sounds like it could have been hash or maybe THC...sometimes bad (usually Mexican) reefer was "gotten rid" of by baking brownies instead of smoking it...paranoia is a sign of low quality reefer, but your always gonna get cotton mouth.

Pot's pretty benign on the Richter Scale...LOL...hash a little more intense.

Like I said, it's been decades since I did any of was a phase I went through in my life.

Now I have kids, responsibilities, people depending on's part of my past...the Clint Eastwood cliche' is really true, a man's got to know his limitations...some of what was offered to me I never did...because I knew I would like it too much.

I had a friend drive up under a parked semi tractor trailer on qauludes & Jack Daniels @ 3am in the morning...another almost drown sitting on the bottom of the pool on beer & seconal because he didn't know which way was up...another shot a guy right between the shoulder blades with a 30.06 on Jack & coke (he got 20 to life)...some OD'd (died in their own vomit)...some of the things that can happen are not glamorous at all...not by a long shot.

It's enough to say, if you ain't got your shit right bad things can happen.

Experimenting with drugs is a deeply personal thing to each individual...the true costs should be weighed against any possible gains...maybe my post can influence someone who shouldn't use them make the right decision, I've been there done that and survived.

But not everyone I ran around with did...looking back, that fact is not lost on me. 

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 20:38 | 816124 DavidPierre
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DP's finest, mountain-growed, hand-picked, pure, organic,  medicianal, BCBud* available exclusive to ZH reeders!

"It'll cure wha'ever ailing you."

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Sat, 12/18/2010 - 21:13 | 816215 nmewn
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Now trying to get me to fall off the wagon?...LOL.

Me & the guys who made through have long said in our old age we'll be sittin in a rockin chair smokin a big fat spliff and LOAO as the world goes by...maybe when I retire.

BC?...hydroponics I careful...they watch the power meters like hawks & have infared in the helicopters now...dangerous biz.

Just sayin.

In Fla. they grow it between the corn rows and also floating platforms in the swamps...ain't got to tend it much on I've been told ;-)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 23:41 | 816397 DavidPierre
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Don't Bogart ...!

My Friend....


another one!


The two HorseMen, stationed here abouts in the valley, are eaten Timmy's ... in no shape to get up the sides of a mountain.  Unless you're ratted out... no sweat.

But sometimes locals go over the edge...


Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:04 | 814661 Sisyphus
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The. Best. Band. Evah.

Just killed it by breaking up. Now, with Richard Wright gone, there will never be a Pink Floyd "getting back" again. Man, the good times I had listening to Ummagumma and everything that followed and everything prior to it.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:28 | 814698 Sisyphus
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And you forgot 'The Dark Side of the Moon'. Fuck you!

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:27 | 814700 Sisyphus
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But I did say 'everything that followed'....

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:29 | 814703 Sisyphus
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One word.

Dark Side of the Moon


Fuck you!

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:24 | 815025 xenophobe51
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Ugh, you Animals!

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:55 | 815051 I_Rowboat
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Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away

Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air

You’d better watch out – There may be dogs about

I’ve looked over Jordan and I have seen

Things are not what they seem


What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real?

Meek and obedient you follow the leader

Down well-trodden corridors

Into the valley of steel


What a surprise!

A look of terminal shock in your eyes!

Now things are really what they seem

No, this is not a bad dream

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 09:33 | 815303 SteveNYC
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A fitting anthem for the state of things in the world (especially the West) right now.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:02 | 814769 SteveNYC
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DSOM is not forgotten, now or ever. I just happened to be in a pre-DSOM mood last night.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:32 | 814710 RabidLemming
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  "are you sure this is Syd's problem?"

R.I.P. Roger Keith Barret

We Wish You Were Here.




Sat, 12/18/2010 - 03:47 | 815200 Got my Towel
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Amen to that.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 14:17 | 815580 Got my Towel
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Please close our eyes to the octopus ride....or should that be Goldman Squid ride?

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:00 | 814765 Cheesy Bastard
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The Rolling Stones.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:08 | 814779 Sisyphus
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The Dark Side of the Moon was an immediate success, topping the Billboard 200 for one week. It subsequently remained in the charts for 741 weeks from 1973 to 1988, longer than any other album in history.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:38 | 814816 Cheesy Bastard
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By your criteria Michael Jackson (Thriller) wins.  Floyd (who I love by the way) come in third behind Ac/Dc (Back in Black)(who I also love by the way).  Still the Stones for longevity and quality over the opinion.  The Who and Zepplin and even Skynyrd get honarary mention. 

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:52 | 814874 High Plains Drifter
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Stones at Altamont Speedway.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:42 | 814958 Cheesy Bastard
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Your rebuttal is excellent.  All I can say in reply is hot rocks 64-71.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:00 | 815348 High Plains Drifter
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He was great, no doubt, but he got some tips (if a man such as he was could get tips I guess) from this man, Jesse Guitar Taylor out of Lubbock.

He used to be lead guitar for the Joe Ely band. He died a few years ago from liver disease. He was the original fight club guy.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 13:04 | 815491 owensdrillin
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Van Morrison - Astral Weeks.

That cd was stuck in the player in my truck for six years. My nephew and a bunch of his buddies (25 year olds) are all now huge Van fans listening to 35 year old music. That album just don't go bad.

Also, Exile on Main Street and Beggars Banquet don't lose any flavour over the years

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:44 | 814861 High Plains Drifter
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They were good no doubt. But I am partial to Texas.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:32 | 815333 Ricky Bobby
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The Greatests Guitarist to have ever walk the planet. SRV forever

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 12:33 | 815404 RabidLemming
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Johnny Winter > SRV... sorry

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 15:41 | 815711 High Plains Drifter
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The greatest guitarist to ever walk the planet? Hmmm, I am going to vote for Segovia.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 16:14 | 815757 RabidLemming
Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:35 | 814712 AUD
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Ha! Now I can understand where you're coming from RobotTrader.

You don't think change without notice is possible!?

To understand the nature of things you need to listen to Frank Zappa, or if you like your music a bit punker, those Canadian Zen masters, NoMeansNo.

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:25 | 814806 TruthInSunshine
Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:02 | 814895 AUD
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Ok, but;

NoMeansNo, 1990.

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 20:36 | 816097 RabidLemming
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fuck all.... you just made me feel old... i remember when i first heard this! bastard!

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:38 | 814950 goldfish1
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"Is that a real poncho or is it a Sears poncho?"

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 01:50 | 815066 SilverBaron
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Here's one fitting for benny and timmy

"we cheat"

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 03:17 | 815179 faustian bargain
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Sat, 12/18/2010 - 03:47 | 815199 Got my Towel
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Thanks for that!

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 04:29 | 815227 Hulk
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Dark Side of the Moon Bitchez!. best album ever made...

Sun, 12/19/2010 - 23:01 | 817931 Element
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Nice, but this Floyd rings my bell more, and who ever played a guitar like Gilmore decided to in this song? Answer - no one ever;

Sorrow (Delicate Sound of Thunder)


The sweet smell of a great sorrow lies over the land
Plumes of smoke rise and merge into the leaden sky:
A man lies and dreams of green fields and rivers,
But awakes to a morning with no reason for waking

He's haunted by the memory of a lost paradise
In his youth or a dream, he can't be precise
He's chained forever to a world that's departed
It's not enough, it's not enough

His blood has frozen & curdled with fright
His knees have trembled & given way in the night
His hand has weakened at the moment of truth
His step has faltered

One world, one soul
Time pass, the river rolls

It's not enough it's not enough
His hand has faltered
.... .... ......

And he talks to the river of lost love and dedication
And silent replies that swirl invitation
Flow dark and troubled to an oily sea
A grim intimation of what is to be

There's an unceasing wind that blows through this night
And there's dust in my eyes, that blinds my sight
And silence that speaks so much louder that words,
Of promises broken

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 22:38 | 814716 Things that go bump
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I gnawed off a limb - I'm not saying whose

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 23:53 | 814879 lilimarlene1
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whilst the Australian Wino Society thoroughly recommends a 1970 Coq du Rod Laver, which,

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:44 | 814277 slaughterer
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Don't you know that when ZH finally takes a break is when they will finally CRASH the market FOR REAL!  

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 19:44 | 814278 Sokhmate
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I'm hypoventilating.

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