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Tyler Durden's picture

After the rather tumultuous events of the past 48 hours, it is time to take a moderate to quite moderate break. Please use this space to hyperventilate, or else breathe normally, at your leisure.

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traderjoe's picture

Open thread Bitchez!

Malcolm Tucker's picture

Canada is a fucking police state. I know this is old news but when you read the details and, more importantly, see the videos it really hits home.




breezer1's picture

canada has a long history of police abuse towards its citizens. the g20 tactics have been used many times in the past against political protestors. 

the most recent history i came across was the greek riots in toronto. the attacks then were probably more racial but everything boils down to politics.

our politicians here are bought and paid for long before they get elected. police the world over have a siege mentality. the majority have lost the ability to think beyond duty and following orders and the 'blue wall'. easily manipulated by the money. the best way to fight this abuse is to get physical gold and silver. think about it.

Malcolm Tucker's picture

I agree with you. Universal currency like gold and silver comes in handy when you need to get the fuck out of dodge...

flacon's picture

Just don't forget about Pissburgh G20 - the police abducted people right off the street in plain sight. 

Hephasteus's picture

What did the G20 do yesterday? Practice killing people. Develop technology to kill, maim or incapacitate people. Build prisons.

It's the same fucking thing over and over forever.


Torture chamber-prison


Hired thug- legitimate "army".

Policing army-combatized police force.

It's all flight or fight response. The sociopaths are full of big promises pure lies and evasions. Substitutions and forgeries. Acting and stagecraft.

The psychopaths are all fight. You're always wrong. Or we'll kill you. Paying a fine is less cruel than prison. Various forms of punishment. Nobodies giving them De-Assertiveness training until people finally get so fed up they gut and put their heads on pikes and slaughter their sociopath buddies.

What is funny is the spiritual bullshit that goes around. They KNOW THEY are going to lose control. Here's the cover story. They will be taken away and sent for further spiritual training. BULLFUCKING SHIT. They'll be taken away where they can conspire together to govern us again. Then they'll come back with slightly modified trickery and brutality. Same fucking story for all of recorded human history.


Z's picture

Merry Inflation and a Happy New Currency

Sockeye's picture

This is scary stuff. Slippery slope indeed.

Barry McBear's picture

Toronto was a police state in some parts of town that weekend, while complete anarchy prevailed in other parts deemed less important to the police.  As stores along Yonge St were attacked by vandals and thieves, the police were nowhere to be found...

andia's picture

These guys attacking Toronto shops were  packs of undercover, special task security forces aimed to discredit legitimate protestors.

Golden monkey's picture

You never know who's really behind the operation.

The other day, I noticed a fat monkey posting comments on

seekingalpha while I leaved a laptop unattended at the local

Dunkin Donuts. Canada really sucks.

I try to follow the man to fuck his wife, but t  loose him.

Next time I will get both.


sabra1's picture

montreal still has the best bagels and smoked meat!

AAPL_Short's picture

You know, things will take a bit more to escalate over in the US and Canada. But escalate they will. Where I am from, every male has gone through mandatory one year military service. You can't harass our guys without risk. Or like in Switzerland, where every male has an assault rifle with ammunition in a locked cupboard at home. Millions of them. That has a calming effect on the powers that be.

And we have old people around still having experienced WW2. They've seen shit in their lives and killed. Just to survive. They would be quick to urge others to take action, again, if normal people were treated like that.

Then again, that is conducive for excess violence on the part of the powers that be being reciprocated fast, furiously, early and in an organized manner. In the US and Canada, things will get really bad and the response will be anarchy.

blindfaith's picture

I don't know if everyone has forgotten Kent State or simply has no idea of it (seeing as how Civics and history are rewritten yearly by the book-masters in Texas as they see fit).  If there IS any anarchy in either country, you can bet it will be more bloody than anyone can will be a massacre of epic proportions. 

The populous has become a populous of hot-heads rilled up to quite but frenzy states by disappointment, media manipulations, corrupt business and government, indifference, failed compassion, and the biggest enemy of all... fear of the unknown.  This quiet population observed is like a grain of sand that begins an avalanche, and at what point can the sand pile become stable again?

jakethesnake76's picture

Don't give them your anger thats what they want .. Give them a firm strength they can't handle that like Gandhi or Jesus , that they can't handle BE STRONG NOT ANGRY

WaterWings's picture


macholatte's picture

The roof top perspective (a link embedded inside the first video) is quite remarkable. The cops act just like any group of robotic sheep herders, or predators, working in concert. They surround the victims and then crush them like a garbage compactor. Very revealing and a must see for all.


Mentaliusanything's picture

That is just ........ I have no words.

The right to peaceful assembly ... gone

the right to free speech ..............gone

The right to reasonable search ...... gone

The right to a speedy trial ..... gone

The right to innocence until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt ...Gone.

The right to take up arms and oppose ..... soon to be gone

V for vendetta or we live under a oppressive regime.... for ever.

Golden monkey's picture

Studying fat divorced women that doesn't want to have sex

anymore could help you understand better the Canadian democraty.

I'm proud to live in a society under fat bitchez control. (They just cut all operation clinic budget from our best doctor named Guy Julien because he doesn't handle a provincial liberal member card).

They put me in prison 2 times : building cameras proved I was elsewhere at the "crime" timeframe.

Now under investigation by RCMP for the last 3 years; jury trials are expensive, I guess.


DavidPierre's picture

Yet another "anti-terror" operation the
government engages in regularly.

When they're not groping old womwn and kids at airports...
...showing up at your front door for "clarification"
of your political ideas...or sending paid operatives
to pose as members of community groups...
they play this game:

Sending police dressed up as demonstrators
to turn peaceful protests into riots.

This video comes from Canada, but the
technique is used in the US every day of
the week.

The truly bizarre thing is no one seems
to know about it.

Every demonstration should have teams
specifically charged with identifying these
gun thugs (they're easy to find), pointing
them out, and blowing their cover.

It's a matter of public safety as these creeps
are there specifically to incite violence.

Your tax dollars at work.

Here's how the adults deal with it.

Police attempt to incite violence...

digitalhermit's picture

Every demonstration should have teams
specifically charged with identifying these
gun thugs (they're easy to find), pointing
them out, and blowing their cover.


... Here's how the adults deal with it.

Agreed! Case in point:

blindfaith's picture

what we, you, can't understand is HOW can so many be so stupid when it is so obvious to you and us?

WaterWings's picture


FUCK the mass-murder crowd: FUCK the Federal Reserve. FUCK the IRS. FUCK 99% of Congress. FUCK the MIC.

Bless Bradley Manning, Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald, and Tyler fucking Durden.

DavidPierre's picture

Le Met ... steps into a breach of the frontline

I did not mean to imply there was something which happened at the CFTC meeting which was newsworthy. Or anything we could have expected to happen which would be. But it seemed to me there was a significant amount of tension building and that the meeting was terminated early and in unexpected fashion. As best as I can recall, here are my impressions of how the CFTC meeting ended:

After covering and voting on several other issues, the commission got to position limits. After presentation of staff recommendations, the commissioners asked questions. Chilton was last and he very carefully and tactfully extracted from counsel corroboration that the new legislation, in fact, actually gives the authority to the commission to take action against concentrated position-holders beyond the traditional methods of jawboning the exchange and the holder of that position. Then he very carefully sought confirmation that the staff would be presenting monthly reports to the board which would show concentrated position holders. But that was not the point he was getting to. He was, in my opinion, beginning to make the point that the board receiving the reports meant nothing unless they would commit to act on the information. He either alluded to or insinuated that had been the long-term history of the board. Gensler interjected that the staff had done exemplary work in the past and that there was every reason to believe that they would file the reports to the board. (As if Chilton’s point was to reiterate that the staff would be able to produce the reports.) Chilton attempted to tactfully take the discussion to the point that it was not the reports that were needed but that the board would act on the information once it was in hand. At least three times Gensler played stupid and reiterated his faith in staff to produce the reports.

Exasperated, Chilton said words to the effect that. "Well, I’ll let this go for now." Then, I’m pretty darn sure that Chilton, with a flushed face, looked at Gensler and mouthed the words "For now!" which was caught on camera.

The conversation moved to another commission member who asked a question of a person testifying. I missed the exact question and answer, but heard the commissioner reply "Well, that seems problematic." There was subsequently an awkward pause and then Gensler said they would take a 10-minute recess. When people acted surprised he said maybe just 5 minutes. One person spoke up and said to Gensler "I have another meeting I need to go to. As you are aware, you have my proxy. I suggest you use it wisely."

The recess was held and all commissioners came back to the table except Chilton. In his absence, Gensler asked for votes on authorizing that some procedural errors in staff presentation would be corrected. I was away from the TV for a couple minutes but saw Chilton return to the table and I expected the meeting to resume. Why would you adjourn the meeting on the heels of a 10 minute recess? But before I got back to the TV, perhaps 2 minutes after Chilton had returned, the commission had voted to adjourn.

So perhaps I missed something in those brief moments to explain. Maybe they had completed the agenda. It sure did not seem that way to me!!!

Anyway, I’m sure you’ll find out what happened if it was truly out of the ordinary. Just thought you might be interested in my observations.

PhattyBuoy's picture

Is this video on the web somewhere?

Fred Hayek's picture

Over at Harvey Organ's terrific site he's got this letter from Tom Harkin.

I never thought I'd be pleased and impressed by something Harkin wrote but the man deserves credit.  Go to the link and you have a copy of his letter to the CFTC commissioners telling them, essentially, the position limits aren't a discretionary call on your part when you feel like doing it.


xenophobe51's picture

Zeppelin is awesome, but I was under the impression that Zero Hedge was more about:

NumberNone's picture

Sorry for the long post but Creed caught the mood several years ago with ONE:  

Affirmative may be justified
Take from one give to another
The goal is to be unified
Take my hand be my brother
The payment silenced the masses
Sanctified by oppression
Unity took a backseat
Sliding further into regression

One, oh one,
The only way is one
I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind

Society blind by color
Why hold down one to raise another
Discrimination now on both sides
Seeds of hate blossom further
The world is heading for mutiny
When all we want is unity
We may rise and fall, but in the end
We meet our fate together

One, oh one,
The only way is one
One, oh one,
The only way is one
I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind

I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world yeah
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind

I feel angry I feel helpless
Want to change the world yeah
I feel violent I feel alone
Don't try and change my mind


PeterB's picture

More about this...

What do you mean, "I don't believe in God"?
I talk to him every day.
What do you mean, "I don't support your system"?
I go to court when I have to.
What do you mean, "I can't get to work on time"?
I got nothing better to do
And, what do you mean, "I don't pay my bills"?
Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?

If there's a new way,
I'll be the first in line.
But, it better work this time.

What do you mean, "I hurt your feelings"?
I didn't know you had any feelings.
What do you mean, "I ain't kind"?
I'm just not your kind.
What do you mean, "I couldn't be the president of the United States of America"?
Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right?

[Chorus: (repeat)]
If there's a new way
I'll be the first in line,
But, it better work this time.

Can you put a price on peace?
Peace sells...,
Peace sells...,
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
Peace sells...,but who's buying?
[n+1 times more]
No, peace sells...

jez's picture

OK. But with all the db server shenanigans, website name change and lost posts, how about this: