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Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:03 | 1197036 jomama
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why are there so many President Hairpiece ads these days?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:05 | 1197051 Burnbright
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And why would anyone think Donald Trump, or his toupee, could be president.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:10 | 1197084 Rogerwilco
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I'd like to see Ivanka Trump as President.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:19 | 1197130 CrazyCooter
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In light of recent energy political drama ... I figured this was a good opportunity to toss up some classic comedy regarding US energy independance ...

You can't help but laugh and realize how hollow the whole 40 year old BS "energy independance" charade really is



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:59 | 1197508 Sudden Debt
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The Schengen is a agreement that all people in the EU may go anywhere they want.

The reason is: IMMIGRANTS FROM WITHIN EUROPE, and they want to stop them.

This is the basics of the EU.


This is good for silver, bad for the euro.


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:51 | 1197661 DoChenRollingBearing
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WOW, France canceling Schengen would indeed be big news.  Would that mean passport checks and changing trains at every border?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:02 | 1198353 Quixotic_Not
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If you haven't got a bug-out bag, it might be about time to think about it...

Supply-side economics is about to go the way of the VHS tape.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 01:41 | 1198508 Oh regional Indian
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No more pro-gress eh Quixotic? I say bring it on. Enough pro-gress and look where it has got us. Progressive dystopia.

Demand-side functioning, like nature.... self-correcting, positive feedback loops.



Sat, 04/23/2011 - 02:36 | 1198520 WaterWings
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Very recent Fukushima photos:


Sat, 04/23/2011 - 13:27 | 1199317 goldfish1
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Workers Locked In Battle At Fukushima, Exposure To Radiation Rising

TOKYO (Kyodo)--Workers at a nuclear power plant damaged by last month's earthquake and tsunami that devastated Japan's northeast continued battling to deal with radioactive water Saturday as their exposure to radiation is constantly increasing.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 00:45 | 1200336 tiger7905
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Latest from Arnie at Fairewind Associates on whether North American's should be concerned with Fukushima

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:01 | 1199376 benb
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Bug out to WHERE?  Some say within six months, some say the Big Top comes down next year. As for me...  I'm diggin in.

BTW Pliskin... I thought you were dead. 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:09 | 1199403 Quixotic_Not
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Well, looks like you're diggin' in, so you don't have to worry about "where?", and if you didn't already know the "where?", I doubt a bug-out bag would do you much good anyways...

BTW Pliskin... I thought you were dead.

Yeah. You and everybody else...

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 15:01 | 1199479 benb
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I said where only because I’ve heard a number of people (in the physical world) over time, talk about buggin out. No put down or anything but some of the ones confident about getting out of an urban area under a number of crash scenarios were unrealistic i.e. -had not really thought it out. (IMO) Elements of the Federal Gov and military are already putting in infrastructure to lock down many urban areas. So I think there’s a decent chance you may not even be able to get out to another location because of that and other possibilities such as fuel shortages or road obstructions. But I agree, the concept of having a bug out bag/ flexible strategy for all scenarios is correct… Even if you plan on digging in.

On the humor side -I spent most of the last summer traveling some of the most sparsely populated and remote areas of Northwestern California. In one pretty isolated local in a mountain river area  (about three hours drive from a north coast city) I met some people who told me the local Indians  (yeah they’re up there) see people from the city come up into the forest, ever so often and bury stuff. Well, the Indians up there know when a leaf falls, so when the city boys leave they go dig it back up. And as I understand, the local Indians have quite a supply of freeze dried food!  

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 05:40 | 1200450 Squid-puppets a...
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who then promptly sell it on e-bay ;)

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:55 | 1197668 CrazyCooter
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Google news results for all you non-power users ... I only speak english so I had to shop around for subject matter ...

This appears to be driven by an exodus of warm bodies from North Africa to Europe ...




Fri, 04/22/2011 - 19:53 | 1197900 max2205
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I hate chicken noodle soup and onions. How many posts will this get. 400 so far

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 20:36 | 1197967 Michael Victory
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Life is.. good. The universe is...

Seems like yesterday silver was $15.

Gas is $4 on its way to $10.
Two kids, how am I gonna get rid of the SUV?

Freedom's April Newsletter:

Happy Holiday.


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 21:44 | 1198113 goldfish1
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Yeah well if the suv is in good condition, keep it.


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 22:20 | 1198191 SWRichmond
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Bernanke speech from 2006 on the importance of price stability.  Very interesting stuff, talks about all the relevant topics.



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 23:55 | 1198382 Quixotic_Not
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The only price stability from here forth will be what an ounce of Ag/Au will buy.

I can't wait to see paper rich leeches screaming from the corner that they've been had!


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 22:37 | 1198242 rocker
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Life is good......While I'm super happy silver and PMs are up, it is why their up that bothers me and will ruin most Americans lives.

Gas going over $6.00 doesn't excite me. Bambi telling us he's watching. What a Joke. $2.00 too late. Market manipulation !?!

And Japan !!!  WTF  Fukushima is radiating the oceans, our life line as a species. Why the hell do the market manipulators keep bidding up the price of Japanese stocks now. Sony has been crippled. Toyota is screwed, and the economy of Japan will take a hit. And they have not even had a 20% correction that lasted a week. I have expressed this before and I say it again. The Giant Squid and all their manipulating hedge fund buddies know one thing. Where the largest bet is, right or wrong, and manipulate the market in the opposite direction. That market manipulating software GS warned us about is working well.  The only reason they have not destroyed the PMs is because the elite of the world know fiat is fiat and they have all lost faith in paper. Thoughts...............

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:02 | 1198368 Quixotic_Not
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"Gas going over $6.00"...

We'll be lucky, at the rate the shit is hitting the fan in the former USofA, if gasoline stops at $20 a gallon...

And no, I'm not fucking kidding!

Good luck patriots -- The rest can fuck off and die.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:53 | 1198452 rocker
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You know, that's what scares me, the fact that they can take it up to $20 a gallon. I can here it now.

CNBC will say, it's all about demand or...... as they are already talking about: drum roll: not Driving Season, but Hurricane Season.  Has anybody ever said, GREED.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 01:28 | 1198491 Quixotic_Not
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All the good little apparatchiks, who don't drive cars and ride publik transportation, will say "It's those crazy peoples' fault for living in areas where they need gasoline, those damn global warming tea baggers"!

"GREED" is good if you're politically correct and live in the big city - For all the rest, they are lucky DHS hasn't rounded them up to be put in re-edukation kamps!

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 12:12 | 1199121 rocker
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Camps, gosh that's scary. You should hear the rumors about FEMA and their new hotel amenities. Coffins for all.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:48 | 1199286 Quixotic_Not
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I'm sure the porno-addicted Facebook Twits will just love it when all those dangerous gun-toting terrorists (fka American Patriots and/or Tea Party Crazies) will be the very special guests of FEMA/DHS in the near future...

I'm also more than certain that the Ministry for Homeland Security has their guest list near fait accompli, and countless scores of Richard Clements-esque journalists frothing at the pen, ready to fabricate stories to spin how millions of disappearances were in the best interests of We the Sheeple  ;-)

DHS Stasi operatives get extra bennies, don't ya know?  ;-)

To ensure that the people would become and remain submissive, East German communist leaders saturated their realm with more spies than had any other totalitarian government in recent history. The Soviet Union's KGB employed about 480,000 full-time agents to oversee a nation of 280 million, which means there was one agent per 5,830 citizens. Using Wiesenthal's figures for the Nazi Gestapo, there was one officer for 2,000 people. The ratio for the Stasi was one secret policeman per 166 East Germans. When the regular informers are added, these ratios become much higher: In the Stasi's case, there would have been at least one spy watching every 66 citizens! When one adds in the estimated numbers of part-time snoops, the result is nothing short of monstrous: one informer per 6.5 citizens. It would not have been unreasonable to assume that at least one Stasi informer was present in any party of ten or twelve dinner guests.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 10:12 | 1200687 In Fed We Trust
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We Facebook i am not sure any agents will be nessecary1

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:39 | 1198432 Creepy Lurker
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Japan is being jawboned higher in order to create an exit point for the longs. (My opinion, anyway.)

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 01:13 | 1198473 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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A lack in supply increases prices.  There is a lack of gold, silver, and oil, not to mention production of goods and services from the island state.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 12:19 | 1199139 rocker
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Aren't we being told there is plenty of oil right now. Even CNBC said, that oil is everywhere. Now Cash, the Bernanke, is sloshing around trying to find a home. Speculation indeed. And if one wants to talk about our under priced silvery stuff. Ground supplies are dwindling while real demand is esculating. Poor Man's Gold is starting to shine on.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 01:21 | 1200354 tiger7905
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Some great facts on silver production from Max Keiser. 12% of silver used for electronics in 2003, 45% today.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 06:54 | 1198649 Burticus
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Convert your old SUV into a Mad Max vehicle, with .50 BMG mounted like on the old Rat Patrol series.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:45 | 1198763 Michael Victory
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Mon, 04/25/2011 - 04:53 | 1202703 thames222
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over won't go to this link though, because it isn't spam.

you won't get the discussion and leaked info that tyler doesn't get...if you don't go to this link.  



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 21:09 | 1198042 Old Europe Avan...
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What happens here is that all the dictatorships in Northern Africa helped (for money) fend of illegal immigrants. Now that some of the dictatorships are gone, Italy is again flooded with people setting over by boat.

Problem is that Italy has to deal with this alone. No one wants the illegals, so of course the other EU countries don't take any of them. But as Italy is more and more pissed about the situation, they pulled a nice trick to increase the preasure on the others. They gave each of the illegal immigrants temporary visas which means they can now freely travel in the Europe. Idea being that those guys are now moving to the richer Germany, France, Netherlands and the like.

So now the other EU countries have to react. They can no longer ignore the problems Italy is having. Frances move is just a last attempt to still look away.


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 23:52 | 1198370 dark pools of soros
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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:22 | 1199419 LMAO
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Thanks OEA

For bringing some meat to the discussion.


Basically Sudden Debt,



The Schengen is a agreement that all people in the EU may go anywhere they want.

The reason is: IMMIGRANTS FROM WITHIN EUROPE, and they want to stop them."


This is a GROSS misrepresentation of FACTS.

Did you even care to read the article . . . .did you understand what was said ?

I guess not.

The article clearly states that France is considering to temporarily suspend the Schengen agreement to cap the float of immigrants from TUNIS and LIBYA.


WTF Dude, this is just plain crap you are spreading!



Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:15 | 1198582 fredquimby
Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:31 | 1198742 Escapeclaws
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Sarko, quel con!

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:32 | 1198743 Escapeclaws
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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 13:20 | 1199303 ISEEIT
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This is also short term political bullshit. Just noise to confuse the confusable.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:22 | 1199413 LMAO
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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 17:48 | 1199765 PulauHantu29
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mmm...makes sense. I read that Europe is expecting over 300,000 refugees (unskilled, different langauge and different culture) to flee to Europe mainly via Italy and Soiuthern France.

Their main destination goal is the wealthy country of Germany according to the report. I remember reading reading about how the Roam Empire fell....influx of thousands of "barbarians" ..some invited...lots not.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:29 | 1198419 been there done that
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Another piece of the oil puzzle is this: Goldman downgraded oil and commodities about 1 week ago and it barely dipped at all, then 2-3 days later it was right back up, NEXT, only a few days later, Obama comes out crying and pinning blame on speculators. So how in Obama's pocket is GS and vise versa?  Goldman did the same shit for Bush right before an election by reducing unleaded gas in it's commodotoes fund forcing everyone else to sell to stay in line. They're all pricks and I can't wait for this shit to fall apart.


Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:11 | 1198967 Vendetta
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oh yeah, I forgot about all the obvious gas price manipulations to lower prices around election time

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:42 | 1199027 MisterAmbassador
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Energy independence sounds great, but we also like driving and having an incredible standard of living.  The entire modern world is dependent upon oil.  Nothing can replace the 20 million or so barrels of oil per day we Americans use.  Nothing can even come close to replacing it.  There are alternatives for some of the things it does, but they cannot come close to entirely replacing it.  If oil isn't required to make something, it's used to get it somewhere.  Each tire on your car has about 7 gallons of oil in it.  The amount of energy that oil releases is incredible compared to the amount of energy other fuels release.  There's a reason Henry Ford didn't use ethanol.

Our economic model, like most modern economic models, is based on eternal growth of population and consumption.  To do that in the modern world requires oil.

If we eliminated entitlements (actually never instituted them) and allowed natural selection to do its work, population and growth would be moderated.  That sounds mean, though.  You know, making people responsible for their own lives and decisions isn't popular with liberals.  They don't believe in private charity because most of their causes are not worthy of charity.  So, instead we've taken the path towards idiocracy.  We've taken the path that allows a massive population buildup and then requires a massive dying off as resources for maintaining that population become scarce, whether it be by famine, war, gas chambers, or whatever has yet to be determined.  I'm not calling for people to be killed, mind you. 

If I were the President, I couldn't sign legislation that stopped meals to kids or anything like that.  I couldn't sign legislation that would simply deny seniors health care to let them die off.  So, it's not as simple to make massive spending cuts as it sounds.  But, if those promises had never been made, people wouldn't have had a false sense of security that everything would be taken care of for them.  They would have been responsible and saved and preapared on their own, at least the smart ones would have.

Of course, this was inevitable.  Throughout history, great civilizations have risen up in their various areas, grown massive in population and thus consumption, therefore overusing their resources, and then collapsed.  We've (by we I mean humans) have done that on a global scale for the first time in history.  And, the only reason that has been possible is oil.  The planet couldn't support anywhere near 7 billion people without oil.  (See the part about carrying capacity:

Just reducing per capita consumption won't work, either.  You would just see a proportional increase in consumption somewhere else.  That's why cap and trade is about wealth redistribution and nothing more.  Population has to be 'reduced' to curb over-consumption.  Whether the governments and elites go all medieval on us and forcibly reduce it or whether societal collapse takes us back to days where we aren't so dominant over Mother Nature and She reduces it for us has yet to be seen.


The 2009 movie "Collapse" is interesting.

This professor does a good job explaining what our problems really come down to:


Oil production and the Oil Age is just a blip in timeline of human beings.  It's not even noteworthy on the timeline of time.  It's an incredible time.  Just enjoy it while you can.  Death is just another beginning.  It seems so many people are so afraid to die that it stops them from living.  But, I ask:  who has lived more?  The rock star who dies at 27 from a heroin overdose?  or the 80 year old who saved and saved working the same office job for fifty years?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 13:52 | 1199362 Upswaller
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Sage words.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 19:12 | 1199933 CrazyCooter
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Nice post.

The world was sustainable until coal and then oil. I would note that the only option after oil is nuclear unless things are dramatically scaled down (as you imply). Modern lifestyle requires enormous amounts of energy per capita and that is the central issue.

Sustainable renewables require far, far less population that we presently have. And I don't mean windfarms, I am talking moving back to animal labor, wood heat, and the whole amnish type "sustainable renewable" to bring things back into balance. But I am also talking about "humanity" being able to maintain itself in the long term, not just 50 years or 100 years where most people focus.

At some point, when the real costs of oil based everything gets too unbearable, interestates and then highways will be electrified. Transportation will eventually become electric in most cases (ICE for rural applications, farming, and such). I don't know on what timeline, but it is not a technology problem. We had electric transportation systems 100 years ago. Right now the business/political system is paralyzed in regards to any meaningful progress.

I honestly don't think this will happen until a real energy shortage is upon us, which makes it very difficult to source the energy required for the eventual build out.

That is why I posted that Jon Stewart link, because it makes it so obvious we are going to drive off a cliff before making common sense technology changes in energy policy.



Sat, 04/23/2011 - 20:24 | 1200059 CrazyCooter
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Dug out this goodie ... excellent documentary on origin/science of oil ...



Sun, 04/24/2011 - 06:34 | 1200463 fallst
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So many different ways to break their economic plaything here, CDS, CDO , CDO squareds, buying mortgage shit shovelers,  backdoor shorting of long clients, a bald MERS assumption of our notaries, lobbyist open staffing of reform writing "representatives" offices.

Anyways, its quite easy to fix.

Just repeal, undo, and unglue, ourselves, from both "Modernization" Acts created by Sen. Phil Gramm-TX, in 1999 and 2000. That's when all this new mischief started!!!

The Commodity Futures Modernization Act, and the Financial Services Modernization Act (aka Gramm-Leech-Bliley Act) of 1999. Allows for obscene derivative manipulation of energy markets (Enron Loophole). Will stop the absurd CDS 600 Trillion notional...Restore the Glass-Stegall...

I will keep posting this until it sinks in.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 13:45 | 1201202 buzzard
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Mister Ambassador, after reading your words I could swear that we have met somewhere before. =) You obviously get it. Too bad you aren't our real ambassador to the U. N. or something. I almost junked you anyway when you used the word "liberal" in vain. But I'll let that slide. Nice to see another from the land of the awake.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 12:34 | 1199188 G-R-U-N-T
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Not bad CC however I find this propaganda pitch a bit more disturbing since anthropogenic CO2 effecting global temperature change is probably the greatest single loot the world fraud ever perpetrated on the masses and yet idiots who believe this crap will go to any length to make you believe their nature worshiping bullshit. Good lord!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:32 | 1197146 Careless Whisper
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Indeed. Quite nice.

Did you know that in Greenwich CT if you leave your 10 carat diamond ring in the penny tray, on the kitchen counter, and it gets stolen, you are considered "the victim" similar to a rape victim? Yes, its true. Your identity is protected because, well, getting larcenized of your 10 carat ring, worth $270,000 is the same as being forceably penetrated by a big bl.., well you get the picture. And if the alleged thief is trailor park Julie Jane, and she's dating the "victim's son", well, junior is known as the "victim's son". Oh, and the address where the alleged crime occured, the victim's "midcountry home" (that's code for mansion on ten acres). Here's the story. It's real:

Any guesses on which hedge fund manager "the victim" is married to?



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:41 | 1197230 spiral_eyes
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ray dalio, bitchez.


mmm delicious bailout candy mmm

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:08 | 1197343 billhilly
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Ok, now that the folks have left, which one of you has the key to the liqour cabinet?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:36 | 1197428 Strider52
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Best laugh of the week: Too Corrupt to Prosecute.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:12 | 1197552 Sudden Debt
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I'm a real McGyver with a paper clip!

I'll do the boose, you invite 1 or 2 more people... just put it on facebook... we'll see what happens.



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:40 | 1197635 Deepskyy
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Oh Oh can I come too?  I'll bring the sodas and some mini pizzas


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 20:44 | 1197993 Reptil
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I'll come too. I'll bring the lube


Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:02 | 1198390 dark pools of soros
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does anyone think the SEC could of cracked that case??



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:15 | 1197349 Careless Whisper
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he's definately a contender. what about mister paul tudor jones? or perhaps mister steven cohen who has a "midcountry home"?



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 18:53 | 1197781 Hugh G Rection
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$270K and she pawned it for $15K?


She would have been better off blowing the hedge fund manager and blackmailing him with semen evidence.  I'm sure Wall St. is covered under TARP for sexual extortion.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 21:31 | 1198091 Hephasteus
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No that's about what it's worth.

Isn't it weird how diamonds are so freaking valueless yet insurance pays full price.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 19:45 | 1197890 bonddude
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BJs in the OO would be juuuust fine.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 20:36 | 1197976 Reptil
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she has two redeaming qualities

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 21:21 | 1198066 DrStrangelove
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I'd like to see her tits

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:37 | 1199023 ISEEIT
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I'd like to see Ivanka Trump naked.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 13:53 | 1199363 aaalp
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You got that right! :-)

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:17 | 1197567 Hugh G Rection
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Why Trump?

Simple. He has been through bankruptcy a handful of times, but always seems to come out on top. This country is bankrupt and needs some serious restructuring. The hairpiece is visible enough that the popculture drunk mongoloids know who he is. And in the spirit of treating politics and our countrys future like a reality show, the low grade imbeciles will no doubt elect him. Plus he's really good at scapegoating China for all our problems and doesn't mention the REAL issue. The Fed and the banksters stealing generations of wealth.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:55 | 1197670 NotApplicable
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If only his ratings were higher, he'd be a shoe-in. And if he did make it in, would he continue his reality show from the West Wing?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 20:16 | 1197950 Chuck Walla
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The West Wing? What? The Celebrity Attacker? Bring a country in and tell them: "You're invaded!".

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:58 | 1197682 Almost Solvent
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Don't forget the reason for the corporation in the first place.

Donald Trump the man has not gone through personal bankruptcy, his companies did. 




Corporations were the ultimate shell game ever invented, until they figured out how to merge corporations and government informally.  

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 19:38 | 1197870 Agent 440
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Let's not forget... Trump has cleaned out more rich investors than Obama ever will even with four more years.




Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:39 | 1198427 avonaltendorf
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Quote of the day

"I'm starting to think that Obama sees Atlas Shrugged as a How to Manual."

NLRB (Obama recess appointee!) prohibits Boeing from opening new non-union factory in South Carolina.


Sat, 04/23/2011 - 03:47 | 1198556 laughing_swordfish
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Where Boeing screwed up was by not moving to China instead of South Carolina.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:53 | 1197665 ebworthen
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Why would anyone think that anyone could be President?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 22:03 | 1198154 Milestones
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I was in Arizona a few years ago and bought a baseball cap. Printed on it:

When I was a child, I was told

that ANYONE, could become

        President...NOW I


Hope that answers your question!!         Milestones







Sat, 04/23/2011 - 03:56 | 1198561 ebworthen
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I could be a better President, but there would be a lot more dead bad guys (girls); stateside and overseas - don't know that we have the stomach for it.

Must be what happened to the Greeks and the lazy and soft...and it was done for them to their loss in the end.


Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:13 | 1198871 CH1
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Killing people is highly over-rated.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 16:35 | 1199640 ebworthen
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I'll take your word for it.

My primary thought was hangings for treason; after trials by miltary tribunal.

Central Bankers go first; then Wall Street CEO's, then Politicians, then Judges.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 22:13 | 1198177 masterinchancery
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Would you rather have a telOprompter than a toupee?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 23:03 | 1198293 Hugh G Rection
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I would rather have a mentally disabled chimpanzee with a chronic masturbation problem than MaObama. Trump would be another self-serving puppet of the globalists.

I don't care about Ds or Rs anymore. I want someone with principals that will slay the Fucking creature from Jekyl island. Kucinich or Paul, but the establishment sluts wont let that happen. Last time we had a real president and he went after the Fed, his brains saw the light of day.

As a recovering neocon tha has lost faith in party and country, I am thankful I still have faith in God... otherwise it'd be adios mutha fuckers.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:03 | 1198393 dark pools of soros
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that was the last Prez

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:21 | 1198412 Agent 440
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If we had as many people dedicated to the 10th Amendment as we do the 2nd and demanded the repeal of the 17th Amendment we wouldn't be having these problems.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 01:26 | 1198493 OldPhart
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Start a write in campaign for some oldphart out in the desert.  Carry it to facebook, vote none of the above and for some random dumb-asss citizen.

Can't possibly be any worse than what we've seen over the last 40 years.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:22 | 1198995 Vendetta
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Congrats on the recovery.  I've gone thru the same type of transformation from the flip side of the aisle (my belief system died back in 2004), Kucinich and Paul seem like the only ones that stand on principle.  I now question whether the US military has been just built up to kill Americans who try to stand up against the corporatist/globalist state ... Presidents just get rid of military generals who are not yes men.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:46 | 1199053 ISEEIT
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Go ahead and shit on me, but after you finish, consider the elites violent reaction to Sarah Palin. I do appreciate your reservations, and they are valid.

Also consider the contrast between the orgasmic 'tingle up my leg' obamma whoreship VS the all out nuclear assault on the T.P. and Sarah. It really was something to behold and a great tell in my opinion.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 13:04 | 1199256 blunderdog
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There's no "monolithic" group of elites.  There are lots of competing factions.

It doesn't really make sense to say "the elites" have a violent reaction to Sarah Palin.  She was a veep candidate.  What the hell are "elites" if they don't include the majority party apparatchiks?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 13:37 | 1199342 ISEEIT
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I agree that the 'elites' are correctly defined as more than one set. I do believe that you likely have sects that compete. The more dominate and succesful 'family' (oh how perverted that is!) has been hitting the jackpot for about 25 years. They placed their bets on Carter, stopped out, and purchased Congress as a hedge against Reagan.

The hedge included H.W.B.

The rest is history. The Satanic movement has grown 'progressively' more wealthy just as the 'progressive' movement (communist, satanic) has continued to grow even more bold in its desire to flip humanity the finger. We are just pawns my love. This is a bigger game and it is about ego.

That is your basic rundown dear.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:01 | 1199380 blunderdog
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Well oooookay, then.  Sounds like you've got it all wrapped up.  I'm going to leave you very much alone now.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:21 | 1199829 ISEEIT
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Well ooooooookay then your ass to the dumpster. Get your history on tool.

Nothing has changed and just because the 'oh so special' you happens to be alive and thinking it is all good changes nothing. You like the one minute window?

Stay with it then and hope you play it well.


Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:56 | 1198926 In Fed We Trust
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Trump is a perfect "personality" for the next puppet for many reasons..

1) His experience in saying "Your Fired" on the Apprentice would look really good in his Presidential run commercials, telling Congress "Your Fired."

2) Trumps cut troat business tactics fits well with the globalists style. "lets take Libya's oiul fields to help pay for their freedom" Trumps, recent quote is very similiar to that of Halburtons, "Lets blow it up, and pay ourselves to build it back tomorrow.


3) Trumps has the expereince of getting every bank in the world to loan him money, then when he is unable to pay them back, forces them to renegogiate all the terms to Trumps liking.  "Art of The Deal" by Trump.  America is in the same position, and maybe that is the strategy taken on by the globalists, and what better actor/puppet than Donald Trump.

Karl Rove is about to blow his wade over

Trump/Palin ticket for 2012. 






Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:33 | 1199015 ISEEIT
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Are you fucking serious tool?

Can you say "If barack obamma can do it, ANYONE can". Qualifications are not required.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:14 | 1199820 New_Meat
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We learned in school that anybody couild be president.  O .eq. case in point.

- Ned

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:19 | 1199825 New_Meat
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We learned in school that anybody couild be president.  O .eq. case in point.

- Ned

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:27 | 1199843 ISEEIT
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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:35 | 1199017 ISEEIT
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Are you fucking serious tool?

Can you say "If barack obamma can do it, ANYONE can". Qualifications are not required.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 19:58 | 1200017 bigelkhorn
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The guys is a complete moron, a fake hair piece and he pouts  on camera like and effing goldfish...LOL. 

how can any man or woman take him seriously. Including his wife, iwanahumalot. LOL.


The dollar looks horrible here. Those FFT guys have been crushing the market latetly. I am a VIP member and love their technical analysis, but they just uploaded a FREE video of what they think is going to happen in the next few weeks to the S&P 500. Its well worth a watch!




Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:57 | 1197509 Phillips Capital
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BUY PM'S ON APMEX RIGHT NOW, since markets are closed silver is quoted at 46.66/46.86 instead of 47.73! Haha! that's awesome!! buy it up bitchez.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:58 | 1197685 kadriana123
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It looks like a lot of people are doing that. Things are selling quickly on Apmex today.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 20:49 | 1198000 Hugh G Rection
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Found a better deal than APMEX. is selling 1993 ag 

american eagles for $49, and free shipping.


You're Welcome

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:16 | 1197572 Gully Foyle
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Because no one pays attention

FLATOW: And this new research that was published this week showing that a lot of people could have genital herpes and do have it and have no idea they have, have it, because they don't have the symptoms...

Dr. LEONE: Exactly. I mean, what's striking is that we've known this for quite a while and yet we haven't been able to get any traction - we being folks in public health - to get both clinicians and the general public to understand that this is a widely prevalent infection, and that indeed most of the folks do not recognize that they're infected.

So if you look at the numbers, about 17 percent of adults - and that's individuals between the ages of 14 and 49 years of age - have genital herpes due to HSV-2 in the United States.

Eighty-five percent of those folks don't know they're infected.


Dr. LEONE: Yeah. I agree.


Dr. LEONE: I am. I think ELISA should be made available to folks who want to know. And only to backtrack for a second - we talked about 17 percent of adults being infected in the United States, but this idea is sort of like, well, it's for other folks who get it. And there isn't great correlation in terms of the number of sexual partners and what your risk is, in addition because this is a lifelong infection. As the population ages up, the overall percentage of folks infected increases as well because there's no cure.

So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we're looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes. So...

FLATOW: Let me go over that number again because you're saying that - it's hard to believe - you're saying that for women between the age of 40 and 50...

Dr. LEONE: Right.

FLATOW: ... unmarried women?

Dr. LEONE: Yes, unmarried women.

FLATOW: You're saying that between 50 and 75 percent of them have herpes type 2?

Dr. LEONE: That's exactly right. Yeah.


Dr. LEONE: I know. It causes me to pause. I read the article about five times myself, saying, wow, and I do this for a living.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 19:59 | 1197925 Abitdodgie
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Take a high dose of Red Marine Algae for one month straight and you are cured , oops sorry I just gave away a natural cure is that illegal , well bring it on FDA say goodbye to herpes

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 22:15 | 1198184 feeb
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Nice guys, good work discussing a topic that otherwise wouldn't get talked about. Ah, the wealth and diversity of ZH...

BTW - at the risk of giving up my best low-cost source of silver, I have found of late that I can consistently pick up 2002-2006 silver proof sets right about at spot on ebay. Pretty regularly I have been getting $1.85 face of proof silver in those sets for $55-57 with shipping. I have picked up about a dozen in the past few days, I think it's because the qty of silver in the set isn't detailed in the heading is why is slips by relatively cheap.

I also have a local shop (Gaithersburg Coin in MD) that sells 10 oz bars for $.85 over spot. On ebay those same NTR bars are selling for 15%+ premium.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:02 | 1198858 FrankIvy
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Gaithersburg Coin - Bought PMs there years ago.  Really, really liked it.  If nothing has changed, I highly recommend.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 07:34 | 1198692 Reptil
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Interesting! More information please? (a link would be nice)

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 16:01 | 1199559 Hugh G Rection
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I think we need to share more on cheap sources of Ag as we start going parabolic.


My dad gave me a tip from back in the Hunt Bros. era... He would take a scale to antique malls, estate sales, flea markets, etc., and look for sterling wares.


Look for "sterling, .925, or .950" Most people still don't realize what Ag is worth, or will be worth in very short order.  Most refiners will pay 60%-80% of melt value for the silver.  Personally I think its better to learn how to smelt it youself, and a pretty fun hobby.



Apmex has a new mobile site,, and they are offering free shipping with first purchase when you order from your smart phone. Expires 4/30

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 21:57 | 1198137 Tail Dogging The Wag
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"Investors need to diversify, they need to own some real estate, they need to own some farmland, they need to own some equities, some cash, and some precious metals..."   Marc Faber —Investment analyst

Got farmland outside your home country yet?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:04 | 1199801 PulauHantu29
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Faber's basic idea is great but do you really think Panama? Honduras? Etc? are safer then some prime farmland here in the States?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:21 | 1199833 New_Meat
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Faber comes with his very own security forces, would have to be layered in loyalty.  No problem for him.  Rogers in Thailand samie-samie.

- Ned

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 18:34 | 1199856 PulauHantu29
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Faber's basic idea is great but do you really think Panama? Honduras? Etc? are safer then some prime farmland here in the States?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:00 | 1198930 Popo
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War between Thailand and Cambodia?   Shit's getting intense...



Sat, 04/23/2011 - 21:22 | 1200142 Hugh G Rection
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Market collapse and/or mega thrust quake off cascadia fault by mid may.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 01:46 | 1200365 AccreditedEYE
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For you Robotrader:

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:04 | 1197042 digitlman
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Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:46 | 1197465 mynhair
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Free Aristide Right Tommorrow?

Winning the Future....

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:07 | 1197045 Burnbright
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I find life currently to never be dull, especially when you are in the dog house with your wife cause she found out you were looking at nude photo's of other women. 



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:08 | 1197055 TIMMAYYY
Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:12 | 1197558 Burnbright
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lol, thanks for the laugh.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:10 | 1197069 Antarctico
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You might suggest to her, as a perspective check, how much worse she would be upset if she found you looking at photo's of nude men. ;)

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 18:39 | 1197335 knukles
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Really'll piss 'em off with nude pics of their own daughter. 

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:58 | 1197512 RichardP
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I've known women who claimed they would rather lose their husband to another man than to another woman.  It is not so ego-deflating to lose ones husband to another man.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 19:11 | 1197814 goldfish1
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Women need to adjust their thinking to "she's doing me a favor."

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 22:18 | 1198192 Antarctico
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If you can sell this one, you should consider a career as a bankster.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 00:10 | 1198399 dark pools of soros
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if she blew you more you wouldn't bother looking at the pics

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:12 | 1197101 Bill D. Cat
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For your sake , I hope someone else took the pics .

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:15 | 1197104 Rusty Shorts
Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:48 | 1197265 Careless Whisper
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"up yours" is a mudder, anyone could see that.

OK, it's Easter. Any of you bazillionaires out there wanna donate some loot? Send a kid to private school? I'm serious. Mom and kid were living in a Norwalk CT homeless shelter and her van, lost her job, and all that. Well, mom enrolls the kid in Norwalk public schools kindergarten and she used a friend's address in Norwalk, even though she was living there anyway. Well she gets arrested for that and is facing 20 years in jail and the little kid gets kicked out of the Norwalk public schools.


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:05 | 1197340 I Am The Unknow...
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So this is what Eric Holder has been working on!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 18:23 | 1197730 New_Meat
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U are some...

Holder, well, he's been working on pr0n, since it took him more than a year+ to do the obvious.  Evidently, there were no "Rich" folk around to arrange pardons for.

gitmo b the cleanest  play -- whoever figured it out deserves our undying gratituded.

Who knows what Holder is working on?  Competition w/Boehner on crying?

- Ned

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:29 | 1197409 mynhair
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Ok, who let Rusty back in....damn baby gates....

/jk, don't get your skidmarks in a twist

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:42 | 1197246 SheepDog-One
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Uh oh, not good. Now if it was some male actor star and he got caught cheating on his wife with whores, then most all women find that to be OK.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 16:38 | 1199650 ebworthen
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Yeah, as long as he is hot.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:50 | 1197272 MachoMan
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Dude...  you should have worked that shit out on the front end...  your wife would probably enjoy living in a world of lollypops, puppy dogs, ice cream, sweatpants, and where "judging" is not allowed...  in this fantasy world, sex with you is not included...  so, you need to make a simple arrangement with her...  if she doesn't want to put out, then you can at least have recourse with your left hand to keep your mouse hand free.  Best of luck.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:52 | 1197490 serotonindumptruck
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And if she still won't grant access to her honeycomb hideout, I suggest going long on Astroglide.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 10:03 | 1200671 MachoMan
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I guess you could always try and hit the ever moving target commonly referred to as "romantic"...  [translation from woman speak: some wasteful and asinine action that allows us to justify or refuse sex with you so that we either: (a) don't look like cheap whores; or (b) can refuse sex without using the headache excuse]

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 15:54 | 1197287 gall batter
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BB, you should tell her that this viewing of nudes made you appreciate her body all the more.  

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:00 | 1197321 cxl9
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"Wife"? What's that? Sounds expensive.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:55 | 1197500 Moe Howard
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Expensive at any price.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:04 | 1197526 Sudden Debt
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So is a car, but I like to ride them :)



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 18:26 | 1197739 mynhair
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Beware of mad potatoes...

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:22 | 1197380 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Incognito window in chrome dude...made to surf porn with a woman in the house.  Never again will "bang bus" get auto-filled when your wife starts to type "baby clothes".

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 16:48 | 1197470 anthoxanthum
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heh, I lol'd. That made my day

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:02 | 1197518 Moe Howard
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Thanks for the laugh. Great one, made the afternoon.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:18 | 1197575 Burnbright
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Thanks for all the tips guys, feels good to laugh about it now, wasn't funny this morning. Well at least she forgave me already. 

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 17:58 | 1197676 NotApplicable
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Suuuuure she did.

Going jewelry shopping soon?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 19:09 | 1197810 rufusbird
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If she is going shopping, ask her to pick up the latest copy of Penthouse...

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 18:05 | 1197696 SteveNYC
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It may be too late for you to condition her now, but it could be worth a shot. Run porn on the PC everyday, in front of her whatever. Time to start making her sub-conscious think it is "normal" for men to do it, perfectly healthy.

I got my wife used to it when she had "girlfriend" status, now it's a non-event for her to see female nudity on the PC.....

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 20:30 | 1197969 Chuck Walla
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They NEVER forget. It just lays there stewing like a backed up sewer. Then, one day...

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