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Osama Bin Laden Killed: Implications First Take

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From Stratfor

Osama bin Laden Killed

The United States has killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and recovered his body, according to numerous media reports May 1 citing U.S. officials. U.S. President Barack Obama is scheduled to make an announcement on the subject. It is not clear precisely how bin Laden was killed or how his body was recovered, but the assertion that he is dead is significant.

Bin Laden had become the symbol of al Qaeda, even though the degree to which he commanded the organization was questionable. The symbolic value of his death is obvious. The United States can claim a great victory. Al Qaeda can proclaim his martyrdom.

It is difficult to understand what this means at this moment, but it permits the Obama administration to claim victory, at least partially, over al Qaeda. It also opens the door for the beginning of a withdrawal from Afghanistan, regardless of the practical impact of bin Laden’s death. The mission in Afghanistan was to defeat al Qaeda, and with his death, a plausible claim can be made that the mission is complete. Again speculatively, it will be interesting to see how this affects U.S. strategy there.

Equally possible is that this will trigger action by al Qaeda in bin Laden’s name. We do not know how viable al Qaeda is or how deeply compromised it was. It is clear that bin Laden’s cover had been sufficiently penetrated to kill him. If bin Laden’s cover was penetrated, then the question becomes how much of the rest of the organization’s cover was penetrated. It is unlikely, however, that al Qaeda is so compromised that it cannot take further action.

At this early hour, the only thing possible is speculation on the consequences of bin Laden’s death, and that speculation is inherently flawed. Still, the importance of his death has its consequences. Certainly one consequence will be a sense of triumph in the United States. To others, this will be another false claim by the United States. For others it will be a call to war. We know little beyond what we have been told, but we know it matters.

 


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Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment caconhma
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OBL is dead. It is so convenient. Otherwise, he could talk.

Saddam also was captured and killed but it did not do any good for Americans fighting in Iraq. Remember that America is still fighting in Iraq. America is still a long way from conquering Iraq and controlling their oil.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Doña K
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BTW:

"Obama sad linen" (Read: Dirty Laundry) is the best anagram of "Osama Bin Laden" I can come up with.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:50 | Link to Comment Anonymouse
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Prediction: Short to medium term - Increased violence. Long term: Decreased violence. Short term there may be some pre-planned attacks and undisciplined retaliatory attacks. Medium term increased as various bin Laden lieutenants try to jockey for a leadership position in the vacuum. Long term less as loss of the figurehead hurts their position. Regardless a good thing. Well done on military and intel and good on Obama for not backing down even though it required an attack in Pakistan.  Didn't think he had it in him.  Haven't read his transcript yet.  I hope he had the good sense to give the military credit due them, or did he take all the glory himself?
Now if they pull out, it's fine by me.  Nation-building is a loser's game.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 02:51 | Link to Comment Scottj88
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This celebration of wrong foreign policy deserves more of a look than just "we got the bad guy."  Why is it that we justify so many american deaths, civilian deaths in iraq&afghanistan, trillions of dollars of shadow money, and so on in a war against a theology?

http://thehardrightedge.com/osama/

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 06:09 | Link to Comment Anonymouse
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I take it all back.  Well I take back the kind work I gave to Obama.  Seems that the dog ate his homework they "buried him at sea".  What an idiot.  He certainly managed to spur some conspiracy theories with that brilliant effort.

Unless he is playing rope-a-dope like he did with the birth certificate.  Act suspicious to encourage a conspiracy theory, then let anyone who doesn't buy his line be discredited by everyone while he stands above the fray.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 08:38 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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bingo...the rope-a-dope-okie-doke

wait, is that curtain moving over there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment DeltaDawn
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Watch his speech...he says "today, under my direction" when the death is suppose to have occurred a week ago. Which is it?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:43 | Link to Comment King_of_simpletons
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In the art of puppetry, the puppeteer makes mistakes sometimes.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:45 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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the audience are all suppose to be drunk so they didn't notice

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:15 | Link to Comment Squid-puppets a...
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so what was the cause of death? richocet off his dialysis machine?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:51 | Link to Comment DeltaDawn
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I must have heard wrong because now the clips are saying, "today, I can report"...time for bed!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:02 | Link to Comment King_of_simpletons
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It's still there: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/05/01/obama_at_my_direction_us_carried_out_operation_against_bin_laden.html

 

Does it really matter. Once you figure out it is all an illusion and a sham discussing the minutea is a waste of time.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:22 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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The teleprompter was programmed last week.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:50 | Link to Comment aint no fortuna...
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Does this mean we can disband the Dept of Homeland Security now?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:24 | Link to Comment OutLookingIn
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  -----------------------------------FALSE FLAG------------------------------------

We can expect stories like this to come at us from all angles, hot and heavy, concerning Osama and the terrorists. Theres a terrorist hiding behind every tree - don't you know!

When the administration is in big doo doo and Wall Street is about to declare a COMEX default - quick bring operation distraction on line and frighten the bejebus out of the masses, so they will follow and swallow this. Silver? BTFD! Don't be BS'd.  

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:36 | Link to Comment Doña K
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I agree. I made such call of a swan song for Bennie and co. Saturday the 23rd.

Click here #1199534 One last attempt to slow the acsent of gold and silver. They will most likely follow tomorrow at 7:20 am with massive short selling.

After stabilizing for a day or two, I will jump back in big with physical buys.

I have no idea which way the stock market will go, as perception of the consequences vary. The spin of course will be on the positive side from the pundits.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:40 | Link to Comment OutLookingIn
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Unfortunately, 70 to 80 percent of the populace will believe this bullshit and swallow it hook, line and sinker! Keep close watch as the rhetoric will most probably be ratcheted up to light speed blaming _________(insert name) for the countries woes and therefore we have no choice but to go to war! 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:58 | Link to Comment A_MacLaren
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"We have always been at war with Eastasia..."

'Nuff said.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 04:02 | Link to Comment Edmund Dantes
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yep. exactly

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:14 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Al-CIAda you mean Tyler?

 

Chicago will be disappeared by a nuclear flash pretty soon.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:32 | Link to Comment bigelkhorn
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This whole Osama dead Stuff really gets to me. The guy from FFT summed it up perfectly. http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com/news/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-dead/ Never before has this country embraced Empire so willingly. Never before have we given up, wholesale, our precious liberties won with the blood of our countrymen. For what?? Some lame ass guy in a cave somewhere that represents some of the best thinking of the 13th Century? This is beyond ridiculous, it is totally absurd.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 02:28 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Empire?

America has never had an empire, it only ever bought its friends.

And that cost is now rising, daily...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:55 | Link to Comment Wooly
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Bigelkhorn, that is probably the the most profound paragraph I have read on ZH in a long time.

Well written Sir.

+1000

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:50 | Link to Comment 66Sexy
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Osama Bin Laden = Bullshit.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Debt is Slavery
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+1 "Tim Osman"

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:03 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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Bingo. Emmanuel Goldstein. As ex-CIA agents go, he hasn't done much.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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Withdrawal from Af-pac-iraqistan? Never! Must stay the course.. must now defeat all the newly minted terrorists created over the last ten years! War is too good a business to just walk away!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:32 | Link to Comment cosmictrainwreck
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"stay the course" (bitchez) D. Rumsfeld

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:22 | Link to Comment I think I need ...
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This is all because we can't afford to keep troops overseas anymore.....hes been dead for 6 years was taken out by his 3rd in command......I want to see VIDEO of him alive past 2005.......the media isn't even good at this thing....fox said he was bombed ABc is saying shot......they are just making shit up...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:04 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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So we should check the body for freezer burn?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:27 | Link to Comment TIMMAYYY
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I think they dumped the body at sea.....

 

he was shot in the head for resisting. I think they just took him out of the cage they had him and shot him round the back of the shed. 

 

Obamas lies coming to a tv near you.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:50 | Link to Comment narnia
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does this give him public support to go into Iran?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment Michael
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I just thank God the USA is completely and totally bankrupt which makes boogieman Osama irrelevant.

The USA is totally incapable paying for any more wars or policing the world.

You have a better chance of being struck by lightning twice in the same year than you do from being killed by a terrorist from the other side of the planet.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:53 | Link to Comment grunk
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The squid was given the head's up.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:55 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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You mean "an eye up"?  "With one tentacle around his throat."

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:53 | Link to Comment Hindsight2020
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I disagree with Obama's take that justice had been served.  Osama's goal of his attack was to lure the US into an endless war that eventually bankrupts the US, he is still winning.  Justice would have been capturing that rat bastard, bringing him back to DC, and allowing every American the opportunity to spit on him.  Shit charge for the opportunity and lower the deficit while you're at it.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Michael
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My money was on Osama bankrupting America, not US forces. Looks like I won that bet.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:18 | Link to Comment Doña K
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Osama was one of them. Others are Greenspan, Bernanke, Geithner, Bush, Obama, all the banksters and the evil insurance companies that capitalize on human fear. My advice: drop all insurances except auto as they are mandatory. It is cheaper.

True example: Three X-rays were charged at close to $1,100. Our 20% deductible was $220. The price of these X-rays on a self-pay program are $120. Don't believe? Try it. We now shop doctors on the phone. Oh! they hate it. but we tell them no insurance and so on. So far GP's are down to $69 in our area. Just get major medical if you can get it?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 02:36 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Osama's goal was the ultimate downfall of America, which he has in part achieved with stunning efficiency...

Never before in the history of mankind has so much been given up by so many for so little...

Tell me, do you now feel more 'secure'? Perhaps we can now have a repeal of the Patriot Act and all the Anti Terrorist legislation which curtails so much of our basic liberties in the West...

But then again, perhaps not...

Perhaps Osama was never the real enemy of the State?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:33 | Link to Comment TIMMAYYY
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you right...i think we should all get to spit on that rat bastard obama and the terror he has brought...bring bush out...must be time for another pineapple up his arse.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Not hard at all.  "Libya."  And "thanks Pakistan!" of course as well.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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What it means is simply this: With enough of a Cand C structure in AFPAK, the troops will nwo be rotated into the Middle Eastern theater, where the upcoming action is.

yup, The Meddle East. Forget about troops comign home etc.

Syria, Libya, Egypt....morocco? yes, much troops needed.

Good luck everyone. This is a phase shifter. A chapter closed so a new, uglier one can unfold. For those saying Yay, boy, you have an eye-opening due.

ORI

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Mon, 05/02/2011 - 09:39 | Link to Comment takinthehighway
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Kudos on the "troops will nwo be rotated"...the NWO beat goes on...

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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hah! What about the Meddle East then eh? That was not fruedian!

;-)

ORI

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment MichaelNY
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They really take us for fools, don't they...? :-(

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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If by "us" you mean most Americans... they are right.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:02 | Link to Comment Doña K
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I am not sure why you were junked as most ZH's know that the masses are asleep. They must be TPTB minions surfing and junking.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Proof positive that TPTB are able to perfectly choreograph the movement in stocks and commodities.

Think of them as "Synchronized Swimmers"....

Unleash huge ES futures buying, followed up by stories and rumors, and institute huge new margin requirements on commodities.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:01 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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"who says you can't time the market."  Ever dream what trading silver would be like though?  forget just mere pics, right?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:06 | Link to Comment Doña K
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No market timing needed for PM physical buying. Simply buy once a day, once a week, once a month, every paycheck or any other time increments and sleep tight. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 02:02 | Link to Comment seek
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"Proof positive that TPTB are able to perfectly choreograph the movement in stocks and commodities."

I agree. However, it's also proof positive that they felt the need to.

You only need to control something when it's getting out of control.

It's a sign the situation is deteriorating, or accelerating, take your pick. And given the capital they're putting up, both political (they can only kill him once) and financial, I'd say it's close to a panic.

How many more notches does that control knob they have go to? I'd imagine we've got to be around an 8, not much left to turn...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:43 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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And given the capital they're putting up, ... they can only kill him once, I'd say it's close to a panic.

They can only do it once.  True.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 08:46 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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excellent point.   find it telling that they had O pull a trump card so quickly before the election.   i was thinking around the debates when RP starts talkin shit and peeps start listening.

have a feeling this thing in Libya is going to drag out into 2012.   remember, there's always 2 jokers in the deck.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 09:41 | Link to Comment takinthehighway
Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment homecinemax
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They will need a new bad guy for sure....

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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Our friend in Libya works for a while, but the sheer psiops boogeyman power of this imaginary fellow willtake a lot of planning to recreate. I wonder why they spoiled it so anticlimatically and had him "die"?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment equity_momo
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Maybe not. Worldwide travel alert issued. The Bogeyman is dead. Long live the Bogeyman.

You will be made to embrace fear and the Police state.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:21 | Link to Comment grl
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That is, for sure, one implication. Get ready to bend over for TSA now and forever. Janet Napolitano just got the mandate to ramp it up.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:08 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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They already have one, and his name is Trump.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Ben S. Bernanke has now, by way of OBL's death, risen to the top of the U.S. Central Command's 'most wanted' list.

Wanted: Ben S. Bernanke & Federal Reserve Banking Syndicate Fellow Members; attempting to 'blow up' the U.S. Dollar. Capture or kill in effect.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment AldoHux_IV
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There'll be some excuse to stay in Afghanistan-- huge commodity deposits. If I'm wrong then at least we can bring our boys back. Unfortunately terrorism is an ongoing struggle for an empire like the US.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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And why would we need an excuse?  Did we go home when no WMD's were found?  Did we leave Afghanistan when Oba--oops Osama wasn't even there? 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:21 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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We are still in Germany, Japan, Korea, and over another 160 countries. The Empire will be maintained. We will be in Iraq and Afghanistan until the Empire is fallen.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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yet another possibility is that this could be used as a pretext for war with Pakistan as they seem to be the fall guys in this circus.

this could get weird...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment Debt is Slavery
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I've been pretty sure that he's been dead for years, but hearing this now on the MSM makes me not so sure...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment dumpster
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Debt is Slavery

so hearing more lies makes you not so sure lol

some poor sap was shot in the head ,,  taking away all identification possibilities , 

these politicians have no shame as they cross over more crap,, justify killing millions .  spending trillions ,, Now watch with all the headlines the debt limit will be raisde to make our security even more secure .

any one with a pause to think this is real has been floating in little green bubbles for the last ten years .

and forgets that the list of lies extends to infinity

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:30 | Link to Comment Debt is Slavery
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Heh, I guess what I'm trying to say is, if they say he's dead...then I'm willing to bet he's not.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:56 | Link to Comment mfoste1
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really who fucking cares?(besides sheep) its a farce, phantom

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:13 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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The sheep care because now with Freddie Bin-Kruger gone they need a new face for the two minutes of hate.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Libertarian777
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that would be Ghadaffi

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Re-Discovery
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Regardless of what it means, I am happy he is dead. 

I will wake up tomorrow and try to understand what it means for my PM longs.  Probably not much.  But that is tomorrow.

Tonight, I am happiest most that this country FINALLY did something it set out to do.  If only the rest of our country's problems had such definite resolutions.

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment dumpster
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they killed one of their own ,, Ben has been dead for years ,  used as a sock puppet to dredge up emotions about 9-11 which he was not a part of.. 

so much real stupidity in the american public .

we are so glad he is dead ,, and the million or so slaughtered to make empire work

for oil .. for the banks , for more reason to bind the hands of Americans on the tit of the political hypocrisy

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:57 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Now that the poster boy is dead we can expect something big and awful to come down the ramp.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:11 | Link to Comment Goofy Bastard
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Was there a way that Bin Laden could have been killed that would not seem to have some bullshit reason attached to it?  Under what scenario would this not be the TPTB pulling more strings to fuck over the sheeple?  I do agree with most of what's said around here but I do fear that we're becoming the zealot whose beliefs are absolute and can't budge in any scenario.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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Was there a way that Bin Laden could have been killed that would not seem to have some bullshit reason attached to it? -Goofy Bastard

 

captured, fairly tried, and executed

- all done without invading Iraq causing widespread death and destruction, and without causing widespread death and destruction in Afghanistan.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

The Afghan Taliban government repeatedly stated they would hand over Bin Laden if evidence were presented indicating his involvement. There is much reason to believe the Taliban were unhappy with Bin Laden's presence in their country and did not want a US invasion. Bush never tested the Taliban claim. He wanted war and military invasion as a precursor to his intended deliberate attack on Iraq. He never wanted to test the option of negotiation or limited police action as many experts recommended.

Bush and Blair are both ostensible war criminals for launching aggressive war and the deceptions to justify it.

The ongoing military wars of occupation have a counter-productive relationship to reducing "terrorism",  or protecting the innocent, and continue only to serve the interests of global corporations and a complicit global Pentagon.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Bazooka
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Watch the Nikkei which is completing it's ABC correction from the bottom of March crash. Once the C wave completes, its 3 of 3 of 3 DOWN.

Watch the Shanghai index ($SSEC).....it's ready to plunge.

Like 2008, Nikkei led the collapse.....will S&P follow? The 1370s range to 1390 could signal a pivot point.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:00 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Tonight, I am happiest most that this country FINALLY did something it set out to do.

What's that, prove they can fool the sheep people over and over again?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:47 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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and again and again and again ... and again.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Catullus
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Because Stratfor is just making shit up at this point, I'll suggest a hypothesis:

China was fed up with the US in Afghanistan and told them to get out by the end of year.  Want to make some shit about how "you got him" and still claim victory as you sulk off a battlefield? Fine, but get out.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment Bubbles...bubbl...
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Yep, I'll buy this. The empire is shrinking.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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Or the return on this adventure aint panning out. Might not be as complicated as being ordered out by China, but yeah, good point, the Visigoths are on the march, Arthur can hold off the Saxons while we run like hell.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:53 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Empire in retreat.  Declare victory and go home.  When are those troops supposed to be coming out?  July '11

The state of California is $16B in the hole.  Clock starts July 1.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:03 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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What out for another false flag attack to be blamed on 'enraged moslems'.

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Savyindallas
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My thoughts exactly - that would give us a convenient excuse to put ground troops in Libya, bomb the shit out of iran, while israel invades gaza, lebonoan and Syria.

The Bogeyman is dead!!

We need a new bogeyman to justify TSA agents molesting our women and children at airports.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment SDRII
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http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=93481

Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has asked Afghan President Hamid Karzai to dump United States and instead align with China for help in striking a peace deal with Taliban and rebuilding the economy, a media report has claimed.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment SpeakerFTD
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I have to agree with some other posters that the shitty response to this genuinely good news by ZHers reflects badly on the permabearish mindset prevalent here.    This is a fine moment.   A moment for  pride.   All of you, even you that are long AU and bleeding right now, no doubt sat somewhere in the days following 9/11, watching the news, and said to yourself or a friend, I can't wait til we kill that motherfucker.  You probably waited for days, expectantly, waiting for the news that you wanted so badly to hear, until other events and our national missteps drained away your enthusiasm and passion.  

The negative reflection here should be that it took us a decade and countless dollars and many additional deaths to avenge the acts of this one cocksucker.   But while those circumstances should cause us to reflect, they do not take away the joy we should feel that we finally did.   Try to find that memory of fury and rage you felt in the days after 9/11.   Try to remember how you would have felt then if this news has been announced.   You would have been high-fiving everyone around, cause we fucked him up and he fucking deserved it and vengeance feels good sometimes.   

Find that memory and feel the rush.  Enjoy this.  We finally paid back blood with blood.

And frankly, if you can't see that, because you are long AU or short the ES, it might be a good time to reflect on your fixation on your investments and your ability to differentiate happy news and tragedy based on its effect on your portfolio.  All those kids cheering outside the WH don't give a shit about their investments.   They just know that tonight we are winners, if only for one night, and it's time to wave a flag and feel good about being an American.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Catullus
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Satiating bloodlust is not cause for national euphoria. If you can't understand why some people are not overwhelmed with joy at the news of another death funded with their tax dollars, then perhaps you need to reflect on your own priorities.

I would have gladly allowed my tax dollars to go toward a trial, but punative killing seems to be the order of the day.  Rejoice!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:11 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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Fuck that.  A trillion dollars and a bunch more of our guys dead to kill one man who they couldn't even prove did what they claim?  The patriot act, fondling kids in airports, warrantless searches, wholescale surveillance, our government acting like Saddam's in reaction?

You're proud of that?

I've never been scared of that towelhead cowering in some cave over there.  It's my own government and chest-beating assholes that want to send other peoples' kids out to man checkpoints that are the real threat here.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:02 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Very well said.

Now comes the media fear of what's next. The whole mena is in uprising, this won't help matters.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 03:56 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Well said.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:18 | Link to Comment D1eeeeeNAHHHHH
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You're clueless.  Keep believing the people who continue to lie to you.  This announcement is being done for profit via provoking a response in the middle east and to encourage people to support the wars.

Defense contractors are excited, banks are excited and oil companies are excited.

This will only intesify the wars.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:45 | Link to Comment Goldenhands57
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Me wonders if the body happens to NOT be the guy and he provides video with untampered current date/time he's still out there! That would shake the knees in DC! Holy Crap! I'm not one to say this was a good event or not. It's a tough call. I do wish there may have been opportunity to take the guy to World Court cause lots more than just Americans died on that day. As expensive as it would be, I believe most of Islam would have condenmed Ben Ladins actions. I do agree with your opin D1.. it's doubtful the wars will lessen..and from the looks of Syria lately and those Islamic Nations closer to Saud we ain't seen nuthin yet.   

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:22 | Link to Comment dumpster
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SpeakerFTD

we are winners,

 

you sir are a merkin ,, and such a brain dead lacky for political lies ,, and we are winners in the lie column,,

they fooled you about 9-11 now on this death of reason and the truth

 

and you sir have bought into this hook line a and sinker

 

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment caboy316
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1400+ troops dead in Afghanistan alone to kill one guy who wasn't even directly involved with the attacks on 9/11.

The gross display of nationalism makes me sick to my stomach. This isn't the Super Bowl. Our team didn't beat their team. This doesn't fix ANY of our problems.

I'm happy to have Zero Hedge. I think some of the theories on here regarding Osama are batshit insane, but I'm relieved to know that I'm not the only one who is disquieted instead of feeling a rush of pride.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:47 | Link to Comment Bob Sponge
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First of all, we are ALL entitled to our opinion. Not allowing for others to have their opinion is Un-American. Do you agree? So, rejoice if that is your opinion. I am not rejoicing because my mind is elsewhere. The USA has a bigger problem than Bin Laden which is currency collapse/hyperinflation. I am not belittling anything about 9/11, but I am not rejoicing about much of anything these days given a looming currency collapse.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:53 | Link to Comment Savyindallas
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You are one naive, gullible fool. I'm sorry i have to be so blunt.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:58 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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What you are so scared to admit, is that yours is the Morality of Death.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 08:59 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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"When I become Death, Death is the seed from which I grow." - burroughs

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 05:28 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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LOL

Google trends is reporting that this shit is all over the web.

And guess what. Benazir bhutto is right up there in the top 20 as well as drudge report.

I had no idea who banazir bhutto was till tonight and stumbled on the video of her saying he was dead 4 years ago. Now she shows up for me again in a google trends.

Looks like this might come down to lucy youse gots some splaining to do and not a drunken flag waving ignoramus party.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:22 | Link to Comment Use of Weapons
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She's quite the popular one. Might want to check out how she lost her presidential bid; open sun roof + car + Bollywood version of Stone's JFK.

Can't make it up, right?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:04 | Link to Comment mogul rider
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You don't work in Washington do you?

 

The body was supposedly dumped at sea. If this was truly a person, why wouldn't there be pictures or the body to show.

 

It's because this is a "Wag the Dog" special. This is entirely Bullshit

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:03 | Link to Comment BORT
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Hello VIX, How you been

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment walcott
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhYV3uF723c

actual video form the kill scene!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Gordon Freeman
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Ain't it curious how all the shit always happens on Sunday evenings?  That was something they hit on back in the credit crisis--ya don't think things are about to get funny again, do ya?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment Sophist Economicus
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"It is unlikely, however, that al Qaeda is so compromised that it cannot take further action."

 

...Maybe I'll sleep under my covers tonight....LOL

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Get the fucking drug bitchezzzz. They have good poppy there.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment IAMAM
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SUPRISE, SUPRISE, SUPRISE.....

ELECTIONS COMING, FUNNY.....

THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN TO SAVE SOME MONEY OR PREPARE FOR NEXT WAR

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment tickhound
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sheep lube added to the fu*k job is all.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment monopoly
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It is good that he is finally dead. I just wonder how important he was. A lot of years passed and he may have passed the baton. Lets hope his followers do not get incensed even more. Yes, am glad he is dead, and many who lost loved ones will feel a sense of relief. I wished it changed what is going on now. Tired of seeing Americans killed in countries where the people do not even care for us. It does not change anything, but it is good.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment ArkOmen1
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This is the most unbelievable propaganda I have ever seen. I am on record in emails to family and friends correctly speculating that they would have Obama find Osama. The rent-a-mob of kids "storming" the white house is just sickening. I can't believe the timing here in the political cycle. I thought they'd do this earlier so it wouldn't be so obvious. This would all be funny if it wasn't real. This is all such a theatrical joke. Have passport, will travel!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment thedrickster
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That's a rent-a-mob, likely on the bench since Madison.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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+++++++

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment KillTheFed
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The US has had bin Laden on ice since 2002.  Classic diversion from what is really happening...like silver plunging 20% 2 hours before the announcement.  Watch the dollar rally, especially when Spain asks for a bailout this month.  The entry point for loading up on more oil and PMs is coming.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:13 | Link to Comment monopoly
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Gold just picked up 10.00 in 20 minutes and silver looking for 44.50. I really do want lower to add. What a night. No change for me.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:13 | Link to Comment Dan The Man
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...seems bullish

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:11 | Link to Comment hound dog vigilante
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*yawn*

 

scenery for the rabble.

 

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment dolph9
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This just more distraction for an idiot country.

We are bankrupt in every possible meaning of the term.

There were some moronic posts above about how we should be happy.

Oh really?  I'll be happy when we pull every last troop out of the M.E.  I'll be happy when we have a good, hard currency.  I'll be happy when the federal government balances its budget again.  I'll be happy when...

Oh wait, I'll never be happy, at least not when it comes to this nightmare known as America.

Don't get distracted!

Keep on BTFD in metals.

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:13 | Link to Comment fonestar
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Does not change any of the fundamentals of Gold, Silver or the economy.  What, it only took a decade and trillions of dollars to whack this guy?  Congratulations on a dollar well spent I guess.

Let the greenback rally one last hurrah and I'll back up the truck... beep.. beep.. beep

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment bothsidesnow
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Sell in May and go away.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:15 | Link to Comment longorshort
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Delete now and go away.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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Does this mean the CIA is hiring? Who is going to be brown boogieman #1 now? Anwar? Yeaaaa. USA USA USA. Bunch of mongoloid low grade imbeciles dancing on Pennsylvania ave right now. Hey dipshits, it takes 10 minutes and an IQ above room temp to hop online and examine 9-11 and false flag attacks. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment monopoly
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Shorts going to get killed again. Spoos rocking higher. Hard to believe any still short this market. When you have a mad man in charge of the printing press, well, tough to short. But some day, some day.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment tony bonn
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"..We do not know how viable al Qaeda is or how deeply compromised it was...."

al-qaeda was and is through and through an invention of the cia....it's existence is ethereal - it is a vaporous concoction of the spook's mind and never had any capabilities whatsoever to accomplish the works accorded it by the military-industrial-bankster complex....

bin-laden has probably been dead for years with the cia publishing those hysterical videos of him in some hollywood cave making death to america speeches...

will his so-called death yield to a return of civil liberties? fuck no!!! the war on boogeymen - i mean terrorists - must continue until the nation lay financially prostrate before the spartan war machine.

now the mib-c will have to invent some new villain to rape the country and exact trillions for war....

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Samual Adams
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+1776 

Truth to power bitchez.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment wake up America
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He was killed 8 years ago and frozen awaiting a time when the American Prez needed a boost in the polls.. How dumb do they think we are?  Stand up. Rise up. We are not going to take this anymore!  Well maybe we are going to take it in ...... for a few more years before we rise up, stand up and yell at the top of our lungs. "WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!"   

 

Frozen USAma  http://www.infowars.com/red-alert-government-had-osama-bin-laden-frozen-...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment drchris
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They are showing images of young kids cheering in front of the white house:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110502/capt.21193f95e89b4d7186efa82998ed5188-21193f95e89b4d7186efa82998ed5188-0.jpg?x=400&y=251&q=85&sig=w9kBF8cTlp1zpTeVmZdNtw--

I'm not sure how I feel about that.  It looks a little too much like images from the middle east after 9/11.  I'm glad they got him, but I'm not sure if I agree with that reaction.  (Unless it's more of a pro-Obama thing, then I would get it.)

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Bubbles...bubbl...
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I wonder where they found that many interns.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:32 | Link to Comment caboy316
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They're just dumb college kids looking to be somewhere at a "moment in history." D.C. is full of them, they're more self-involved than blindly patriotic.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:31 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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The crowd seemed to be there before the annoucement....how'd they know?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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Bad for the Dow? No more trillion dollar witch-hunt to find the guy - troops should come home, military spending down, peace at last.

Or, http://www.hindustantimes.com/Nuke-hellstorm-if-Laden-caught-or-killed/H...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:17 | Link to Comment boeing747
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I think US has located him for a while but didn't want him die too early until now it's right moment to pull.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:18 | Link to Comment jedimarkus
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Does this mean I don't get molested at the airport anymore?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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No more molestation, just outright rape now.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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Nah, now we'll be fearing retaliation for another 10 years or so, so you'll be getting molested indefinitely

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:28 | Link to Comment grl
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oh sure...global travel alert just issued for all US citizens. bohica citizens

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:21 | Link to Comment Duke Dog
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Hmmm, heat must have been getting a little much on the fake birth certificate issue.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 01:24 | Link to Comment defender
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I'm no birther, but man was that a hack job.  Karl Denninger had some stuff to say about it, so did some of the right wing media, all the respectable media are too afraid to touch it. 

The first thing that I noticed when I saw it was the lack of a raised seal.  It wasn't until I started digging that I found out that it has copy past history still available on adobe illustrator, showing that it isn 't a scanned image, but a 'shopped image.  I don't care what signature they put on the bottom, it ain't the real deal.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment ArkOmen1
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Oh thank you so much US government! Oh thank you for spending my tax dollars on predator drones and patriot acts and bailouts and bombs and phony wars and endless fiat welfare! Oh thank you for my federal reserve notes being diluted daily for too big to fail and banana republic debt monetization and for suppression of real constituional money! Oh thank you for blowing up building 7 and then taking us to two phony wars! Then coincidentally when we have max troop levels in Afganistan, we discover minerals there! Then, ten years later, a year away from Barry's re-election, we finally killed the bogeyman! What is this, Ghost Busters?????? What a co inky dink!!!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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+ 14.3 Trillion

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment davepowers
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Perhaps Stratfor's 'you have to pay to read' reports are worthwhile, but I've never seen a freebee Stratfor piece that wasn't a mishmash of the obvious.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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Lets see.  The body has been in a deep freezer in Area 51 for the last ten years waiting for the right opportunity to use it.  I wonder what else is lurking in deep freezers awaiting politically expedient times to release?  Jimmy Hoffa?  Adolph Hitler?  Caesar's ghost?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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Nah, when they run out of bogeymen and scapegoats they just start eating their own. Look at the current Buffett affair. It's a world of jackals with a scarcity of lions.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:30 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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They don't run out of bogeymen, ever.

Stay away from tall buildings and big crowds.  Another 'attack' is a distinct possibility.  A sturdy steel and concrete building might collapse on you.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:35 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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I'd like to report a terror cell... there's several tall buildings downtown full of them, they're posing as bankers!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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Obama should be careful in calling a top in the war on terror.. the last one to do that showed up in a cute flight suit and declared mission accomplished. He ended up looking a bit silly later on. Luckily for him, that guy still had people who liked him in the end.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:32 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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They might have liked his hind end, but we're the ones that took it in the end.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 00:57 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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