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The Oslo "Jihadist Terrorist" Blame Game Begins

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The news of today's Norway bombing is still developing and already the Telegraph has started the blame game. The target? Why jihadists of course. And while there may be reason to assume this is the case, the fact that there are absolutely no known confirmed facts at this point allows us to be very grateful for the phenomenon of broad ethnic and racial stereotyping and profiling. Incidentally, according to preliminary reports, the description of the shooter at the Labor Party youth camp is 6 foot tall, and blond: last time we checked Libya didn't have an endogenous Aryan population.

From The Telegraph:

As of June 2011, there were still six F16 fighters from the Royal Norwegian Air Force operating in Libya, which is a possible motive for the attack. However, it is unlikely that Colonel Gadhafi has the ability to mobilise such an attack.

Norway has deployed around 500 troops in Afghanistan, and three Norwegian newspapers (Aftenposten, Dagbladet and Magazinet) published the controversial Prophet Muhammad cartoons in 2005-2006, providing another possible motive.

There is precedent for jihadist targeting of Norway, with public spaces, government offices and media targets most at risk.

One possible culprit is the Pakistan-based core al-Qaeda group, which has previously shown interest in attacking Norway. In July 2010, three Norwegian residents, one of whom had received explosives training with al-Qaeda in Pakistan, were arrested on suspicion of plotting attacks against unspecified targets. One of them had attempted to construct the same hydrogen peroxide-based explosives as used in the 2009 al-Qaeda bomb plot against the New York subway and the 7/7 bombings in London.

Nevertheless, Norway is not a priority country for jihadists, and any al-Qaeda targeting of Norway would probably be opportunistic, based on the fact that they had happened to recruit a Norwegian national. We also assess that any plans for spectacular attacks in Western Europe would probably have been altered or put on hold following bin Laden's death, pending internal security reviews. A further possibility, therefore, is that the attack was led by Norwegian jihadist sympathisers acting on their own initiative, possibly after receiving basic training from jihadist groups overseas.

The profiling continues:

This pattern was seen in Stockholm in December 2010, when Swedish citizen
Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly blew himself up in a busy shopping street. He
had visited Iraq for jihad, but appeared to have received minimal, if any,
external training and guidance when planning the Stockholm attack. One
possible training provider would be Somalia's al-Shabab, which maintains
fundraising networks among Norway's Somali community and has proven
attractive as a destination for Swedish and Danish jihadist sympathisers,
though it has not so far shown interest in deploying its foreign fighters
back home to conduct attacks.

Of course, the most probably explanation: that this is merely a domestic operation with no "jihadists" at all, is presented last. Because bond, blue eyed terrorists don't really sell page views.

Hours later there was an summer camp youth conference of the ruling Labour
Party, which is being attended by current Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg.
The conference is taking place on the island of Utøya. The man apparently
infiltrated the conference on the pretence that he had been sent by the
police as a security measure in the wake of the Oslo explosions. As such, it
is likely he was ethnically Norwegian. This could indicate the involvement
of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group, though it is also the
case that the Labour Party would be a favourable target for Islamist groups
due to its role in authorising Norwegian military deployments in
Afghanistan.

So much for the speculation. How about next time the "punditry" at least waits to get its fact straight before starting out on yet another senseless stereotypical crusade which will certainly make it far more likely that just this  stereotype is precisely what is behind the next attack.

 

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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 15:46 | 1482155 gwar5
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Primer for non-muslims just waking up:

All muslims are "jihadists" by their own fundamentalist definition, because they all share in the "struggle" against all non-muslims in the world. 

All non-muslims who refuse to submit to Islam/Sharia are called "Infidels"

All non-muslims who agree to submit to Islam/Sharia are called "Dhimmis" and they are allowed to live as second class citizens among muslims, but are subject to all manner of abuses at the hands of muslims without rights under Sharia law of Islamic supremacy, and providing they also must usually pay a tax to muslims. This subservient lifestyle by non-muslims living among muslims is called "Dhimmitude". This is what Norway has been unwittingly doing. Complete tolerance and accomodation of Islam/Sharia is seen as weakness and Dhimmitude by muslims and only makes things worse because they see it as their Islamic duty to put non-muslims back in their place, using violence if needed.

All muslims have a duty to lie and use any means of deceit against non-muslims when living among them to advance Islam. This is their duty under Sharia and it is called "Taqyyia"

A muslim who renounces Islam is an "Apostate" which is punishable by death. Malcolm X was killed just 5 weeks after Louis Farrakhan said he "was worthy of death", not long after Malcolm X had expressed reservations about Elijah Muhammad and the violent tactics of Nation of Islam. He was considered an apostate.

"Muslim Brotherhood" (MB) is the worlds's largest Islamic organization, committed to reconstructing another MENA Ottoman empire-like caliphate that fell (after 400 years) at the end of WWI. Formed in 1928, the MB sputtered until the Nazi's turbo-charged them in the 1930's. MB believes in infiltrating and incrementally co-opting non-muslims and their institutions and resroting to violence only when necessary.

Al-Qaeda is the violent revolutionary MB splinter group that wants to kill non-muslims right away and engage in violent jihad. Sunni muslim.

Hamas is the violent Palestinian MB group committed to jihad against Israel. Sunni muslim.

Hezbollah is a violent Shiite muslim group in Jordan. Think Iran, Syria. 

Sunnis are Arab muslims. Think Egypt and Saudi.

Shiites are Persian muslims. Think Iran, Syria, majority in Iraq.

Diaspora fellow muslims everywhere worldwide

 

Sunnis and Shiites all hate your non-muslim guts because it's their duty under their Sharia LawOne muslim described Sharia law as the 1200 year old muslim Constitution, and government, and it goes with them whereever they go and it always comes first.

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 15:54 | 1482206 ArrestBobRubin
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Straight from the ADL handbook's Glossary of Terms I see. Highly credible.

Thanks for sharing this great wisdom with all of us sleepyheads, it's very thoughtful of you.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:07 | 1482294 rufus13
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Jews aren't the enemy. Jews don't tend to rape your daughter or demand that you attend a meeting 35x a week, or punish you for playing music. They tend to LMTFA, which I appreciate greatly and reciprocate. 

 

Jews have never had it so good as a minority among a White Christian majority in the USA. Is this where the guilt-hate comes from? Would misery and oppression serve better? Just wait for an Islamic caucus majority in the US House of Representatives for the answer. 

 

Cheers. 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:30 | 1482430 alien-IQ
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you are simply bat-shit crazy.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:43 | 1482499 zerozulu
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There are two types of Jews. Real human Jews and money loving Jews. Problem is money loving Jews have got too much power.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:10 | 1482604 gwar5
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Straight out of the news for the last 20 years worth of terrorist murders and attacks. So easy even a jew-hating caveman like you can get it. 

 

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:00 | 1482249 rufus13
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best summary of Islam yet. It's a plague upon the Earth, borrowing what is effective from NAZI's and Stalin, to incorporate or destroy all others in a Zerg-like fashion. 

Where there is not a strong social fabric to resist, Islam will move in. Europe was strong in 1900, but 2 global wars on Europeans softened them enough for Islam to make dangerous inroads. Int'l banksters are looting ahead of the invasion, and building East Asian refuges. 

 

Cheers. 

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:15 | 1482350 Use of Weapons
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And then...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism

A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status...Muslims use the word in a religious context to refer to three types of struggles: an internal struggle to maintain faith, the struggle to improve the Muslim society, or the struggle to defend Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

 

I always had you marked as somewhat deficient, but it is awesome to see a nation who have real issues with Christian Fundamentalism then export the belief that all religion is fundamentalist. That's one of those basic logical fallacies, you know? [syllogism, for the educated]. As a note: do your research on the Crusades, and then please look up just who funded the militant Wahhabi Islamic fundamentalists in MENA, and who paid / armed the Mujahideen in Afganistan, who later became the Taliban; ironically, these radical groups have purged / persecuted more tolerant and milder forms of Islam (as the Catholic church proves, there's nothing like a little bit of heresy to get the blood flowing... their blood, but still gets the heart pumping... their heart, on a heated spike).

 

 

Oh. Wait. It was Uncle Sam, you fucking trailer-trash hillbilly.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:14 | 1482789 gwar5
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Wikipedia -- seriously?

Muslims have been engaged in jihad since Mohammad in the mid-7th century. This is a revival movement of their Sharia roots. The word Slave comes from the word Slav, from when the musims invaded Europe and took Slavic peoples as slaves. They invaded Kenya in the 8th century and started the black slave trade and passed it along to Vasco de Gama and Europeans after he landed there in 1498.

I don't even hate muslims back. But I want to know what is really motivating them so we know what we're really up against. Clearly it is not what we're being told. It's important since muslim behavior is driving so many worldwide events and is the reason I am now supposed to submit to having my genitals groped at the airport. Turns out it is very hard to dissuade someone from jihad who has been hard-wired from an early age to think like that. 

It's also helpful to know why even some "moderate" muslims feel it is their "duty" to kill their own daughters, or cut off their wives heads in Honor Killings, for example, and why they feel they have to kill gays.

Those who are not fundamentalists are certainly not coming forward in big numbers to speak out. So, where are they? Are they giving their tacit approval or are they just being intimidated into silence themselves? 

With the MB now taking over Egypt, the Coptic Christian population (10%) are being set upon, killed, with their churches burned and smashed to the ground. And it's just starting.

In Sudan the Northern muslims killed a million non-muslims and Christians in Darfur -- that's what the fighting  was all about. The muslims were raping, torturing, non-muslims in the South and taking large numbers as slaves. They just separated into two countries. 

Slavery of non-muslims is still allowed under Sharia Law and they're doing it -- never stopped.  Non-muslims are considered unclean sub-humans under Sharia. The last Muslim countries didn't even "officially" get rid of slavery off the books legally until 2003 -- but they're still holding non-muslims slaves to this day.

Even some muslim women say it's legal and OK with them if their husbands rape non-muslims or take them to keep as sex slaves. And a female Egyptian lawyer broadcast on Egypt TV that it is OK for muslim men to rape Jewish women on the streets.

Muslims may not even consider themselves fundamentalists for saying and doing things like that ---- but I sure do!  

 

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:01 | 1482253 cheesewizz
Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:20 | 1482310 Negro Primero
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"The occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now" ( Jonas Gahr Store, Norway's Foreign Minister)...with photo from Utoya camp yesterday (kids holding sign that says "Boykott Israel")

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout...

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:18 | 1482315 linrom
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The elements are turning out again in force on ZH!  Jihadists are like bankers, they both support extreme wealth accumulation and peonage for the masses. Look at their countries? Disgusting to the extreme: false religion is their opium and hatred of the Jews is the solution. Islam will never liberate anyone; they can't even liberate themselves.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:23 | 1482395 headless blogger
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Why does this article or what anyone says about have to do with "hatred of Jews"?  When did anyone talk about jew hating? Why is it that we must adhere to constant calls of blame on muslims without questioning? Yet nobody is suppose to question or criticize israel?

 

Bull shit.

 

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:34 | 1482462 zerozulu
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To me, Islam is the only logical threat left to kleptocrats and banker in the world. 9/11 was the start of this war and Bankers and kleptocrats seems to me loosing big time.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:21 | 1482383 exceller
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So, premature speculation that this was a jihadist attack will make it more likely that the next attack comes from jihadists? I can't believe what I'm reading here. Seriously if jihadists aren't at the top of your profile list for an attack like this you've really not been paying any attention.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:28 | 1482422 zerozulu
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Mini 9/11. They could not find 100 story building in Oslo. These Norwegians had too much freedom. Most probably an Oslo-Patriotic law was ready for years but could never find the reason to bring 7000 pages out from the closet.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:41 | 1482426 BlackholeDivestment
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...tick tock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNKG2a7JDgM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVdaigeuM70&feature=related 

 11        BOOM! 12

                     Mark of the Beast      13  Peace & Saftey 14    15

                                                                        16   Sudden Destruction

                               

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:30 | 1482432 headless blogger
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Ex CIA 'analyst' Robert Baer's latest interview is most likely propaganda...but for what purpose?Norway bombing may have nothing to do with any of this, but it is worth considering other alternatives than what MAIN STREAM media is feeding you.

Robert Baer Interview:

"While Robert Baer didn’t reveal the sources behind his prediction, he referred to former Mossad chief Meir Dagan’s warnings of an Israeli attack on Iran as “no bluff.” Baer told the KPFK Radio on Tuesday recent comments made by Dagan that an Israeli attack on Iran could lead to a regional war, “tell us with near certainty that [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu is planning an attack, and in as much as I can guess when it’s going to be, it’s probably going to be in September, before a [UN General Assembly] vote on the Palestinian state.”

http://www.americanpendulum.com/2011/07/top-cia-officer-israel-will-prob...

 

The editor's notes at this article are a good dissection of Robert Baer's allegations:


Editor’s Note:
This interview does not reflect the opinion of American Pendulum. The purpose in leaving this interview up is so that people can decide whether this is propaganda or the real thing. Robert Baer is an ex CIA officer. The CIA, as most people know, does not have a particularly good reputation, and one of their more notable modes of operation is to spread dis-information and use heavy handed propaganda to keep people’s views pointed where THEY want them pointed. Here are a few points from this interview that do not seem fully supported by facts with our comments in parentheses:

 

1) Bibi Netanyahu is becoming unstable and there is no telling what he might do.
(This was repeated a few times by Baer. Why? What is it that they are insinuating? It seems they are setting up the dialogue for some future event that is already being planned)

2) Israel will strike Iran, most likely in September, before the Palestinian State vote. (Is this the purpose of this interview? Is it bluffing? We hear this stuff every year; someone always makes this claim or something similar yearly)

 

3) Robert Baer was emphatic in stating that ‘THIS IS NOT A BLUFF BY ISRAEL’. He states that States [like Israel] do not bluff. (States ‘bluff’ all the time. Why is Baer lying about this?)

 

4) Robert Baer states that ‘Iran would love it if Israel attacked their nuclear facilities’…to justify a strike back. (This is utter nonsense. What country wants their energy source attacked? Nothing much in the news about the Iranian non-proliferation conference that they are hosting; with 40 nations in attendance)

 

5) “We don’t know how it will play out with Syria”…in reference to the Assad regime. (This is more bull. The U.S. knows exactly how it will play out. We don’t have 12 intelligence organizations for nothing. These intelligence services always know what is going on. They are lying when they say they don’t).

 

6) Baer emphasizes that the Israeli attack on Iran will cause an “escalation” but not an all-and-out war. (An attack on Iran will most definitely create what some say World War III, or at least start it).

 

7) Baer says no all-and-out war because the U.S. does not have the troops to fight it. He makes reference to this a couple times. (This is insinuation of the Draft in my opinion. These kinds of comments usually are designed to insinuate ‘thought’ into the listeners or viewers.)

 

8) Baer: “We look into the abyss but rarely go over the edge”. (Well, I beg to differ. We have gone over the edge a long time ago).

 

Conclusions on this interview: There is no way to know if Israel will attack Iran. What is evident by this interview is that the U.S. Psy-ops are working in over-drive to establish a near future scenario. It is well known that the Media (Of which ‘Background Briefing’ with roots in the BBC qualifies for Mainstream Media) incorporates intelligence officers within their ranks. Most CIA analysts do not share their links with this agency. But it is in the interest of the CIA to at least have some of their people exposed so they can ‘talk to the public’ like Baer is doing. Something definitely is happening, otherwise they would not have one of their front men, Baer, speaking to us this way. It will be a manipulation, whatever it is they are planning.

 

 

 

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:40 | 1482489 headless blogger
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Ex CIA 'analyst' Robert Baer's latest interview is most likely propaganda...but for what purpose?Norway bombing may have nothing to do with any of this, but it is worth considering other alternatives than what MAIN STREAM media is feeding you.

Robert Baer Interview:

"While Robert Baer didn’t reveal the sources behind his prediction, he referred to former Mossad chief Meir Dagan’s warnings of an Israeli attack on Iran as “no bluff.” Baer told the KPFK Radio on Tuesday recent comments made by Dagan that an Israeli attack on Iran could lead to a regional war, “tell us with near certainty that [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu is planning an attack, and in as much as I can guess when it’s going to be, it’s probably going to be in September, before a [UN General Assembly] vote on the Palestinian state.”

http://www.americanpendulum.com/2011/07/top-cia-officer-israel-will-prob...

 

The editor's notes at this article are a good dissection of Robert Baer's allegations:


Editor’s Note:
This interview does not reflect the opinion of American Pendulum. The purpose in leaving this interview up is so that people can decide whether this is propaganda or the real thing. Robert Baer is an ex CIA officer. The CIA, as most people know, does not have a particularly good reputation, and one of their more notable modes of operation is to spread dis-information and use heavy handed propaganda to keep people’s views pointed where THEY want them pointed. Here are a few points from this interview that do not seem fully supported by facts with our comments in parentheses:

 

1) Bibi Netanyahu is becoming unstable and there is no telling what he might do.
(This was repeated a few times by Baer. Why? What is it that they are insinuating? It seems they are setting up the dialogue for some future event that is already being planned)

2) Israel will strike Iran, most likely in September, before the Palestinian State vote. (Is this the purpose of this interview? Is it bluffing? We hear this stuff every year; someone always makes this claim or something similar yearly)

 

3) Robert Baer was emphatic in stating that ‘THIS IS NOT A BLUFF BY ISRAEL’. He states that States [like Israel] do not bluff. (States ‘bluff’ all the time. Why is Baer lying about this?)

 

4) Robert Baer states that ‘Iran would love it if Israel attacked their nuclear facilities’…to justify a strike back. (This is utter nonsense. What country wants their energy source attacked? Nothing much in the news about the Iranian non-proliferation conference that they are hosting; with 40 nations in attendance)

 

5) “We don’t know how it will play out with Syria”…in reference to the Assad regime. (This is more bull. The U.S. knows exactly how it will play out. We don’t have 12 intelligence organizations for nothing. These intelligence services always know what is going on. They are lying when they say they don’t).

 

6) Baer emphasizes that the Israeli attack on Iran will cause an “escalation” but not an all-and-out war. (An attack on Iran will most definitely create what some say World War III, or at least start it).

 

7) Baer says no all-and-out war because the U.S. does not have the troops to fight it. He makes reference to this a couple times. (This is insinuation of the Draft in my opinion. These kinds of comments usually are designed to insinuate ‘thought’ into the listeners or viewers.)

 

8) Baer: “We look into the abyss but rarely go over the edge”. (Well, I beg to differ. We have gone over the edge a long time ago).

 

Conclusions on this interview: There is no way to know if Israel will attack Iran. What is evident by this interview is that the U.S. Psy-ops are working in over-drive to establish a near future scenario. It is well known that the Media (Of which ‘Background Briefing’ with roots in the BBC qualifies for Mainstream Media) incorporates intelligence officers within their ranks. Most CIA analysts do not share their links with this agency. But it is in the interest of the CIA to at least have some of their people exposed so they can ‘talk to the public’ like Baer is doing. Something definitely is happening, otherwise they would not have one of their front men, Baer, speaking to us this way. It will be a manipulation, whatever it is they are planning.

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:44 | 1482509 headless blogger
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sorry for the double post.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 16:59 | 1482555 TheAkashicRecord
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What do you guys think?

"The police suspect that this is not terrorism, but a local variant aimed at the existing political system." 

http://tiny.cc/1601i

 

From 7/21
Jonas Gahr Store: - The occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now

 

http://tiny.cc/aaxwf


Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:28 | 1482622 Use of Weapons
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A contributor who has been pretty spot on with his/her "rumour has it..." posts suggested this a long time ago. Given the weakness of the Islam claims, and possibilities (from Muslims to "THE JEWZ" to project mayhem... I even saw a desperate Roger claim "anarchists..." as a possibility, which is a total nonsense - bomb, yes - children, never) it seems the most plausible explanation.

Then again, there's been a lot of conflation between the two incidents; one is a fairly high tech bomb (if it was amateur materials, they were mixed by someone who knew what they were doing - note the difference between the IRA in London and the "Muslim extremists" in NY / Scottish airport who both cases managed... not to blow up at all. Note, for it to be amateur, they need to produce a truck capable of holding about 1/2 - 1 tonne of materials, not a "car"), the other is a front on, suicidal massacre of innocent children using premeditated disguises (even Mumbai wasn't that callous - although Beslan was). You'll note that both Mumbai and Beslan were done by groups - this is the more usual Islamic fundamentalist split; single suicide bomber [in multiple places sometimes, and sometimes in pairs]; larger fanatical group going out in armed combat (see Moscow theatre for a mix).

The two aren't necessarily done by the same people - or rather, it would be much easier to control / unleash the demented psychopath to take the wrap for the bomb and walk away.

 

 

Patty-cake, patty-cake, bakers' man.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:06 | 1482736 BlackholeDivestment
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...kinda reminds me of this>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xc4YR-KWl4&feature=related

The Antichrist is unbecoming. The unsealed host, be they  Jew, Muslim, Hindu etc.. and even so called Christians that have accepted the mark of the beast new world order sealed upon them, the reality is weakness has risen among us through deception and the offer of temptation which has marked the collective host which represents the violent offensive claim of dominion based on the strong delusion, which has risen because people of this last generation have heard the Word of our Father in Christ but do not accept the Holy Spirit of our Father in Christ standing fast and doing no harm. People ''want'' to reject the proclaim ''The Truth is not a choice'' ...and the revelation of at least the principle image of the Love and Mercy of our Father in Christ, defining the meaning which causes every knee to bow. The message of our Father in Christ defines the nature of the Middle East in contempt, and the prophetic single global market Whore of Babylon, which is all nations and Israel.

The story ends well for all, sealed through our Father in Christ, and the hosts of the Holy Spirit standing fast in agreement. The New World Order offer of the U.N. founders, defining the single global voice of contempt once again, as in the days of Noah, represent The voice of Nimrod and the want of Babylon, now upon this final generation which has witnessed the prophetic fulfillment of Israel and Jerusalem restored. The time has come for the fulfillment of the global mark of the beast system of debt/want, which offers no return for the laborers of the harvest, and the false peace to be sealed with Israel and all the nations, which shall be broken, when the leader of that offer seals it with the nations and Israel and declares peace and saftey, then shall ''sudden destruction'' come ...so great, if possible all flesh would be destroyed.

  ...how's that for a responce? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbCsvb3LnsE 

                                   ...watch.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:21 | 1482639 Ironmaan
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Th author is an idiot as proven by his last paragraph.

How about next time the "punditry" at least waits to get its fact straight before starting out on yet another senseless stereotypical crusade which will certainly make it far more likely that just this  stereotype is precisely what is behind the next attack.

He is actually going to blame the next attack on sterotyping. Yes I can see it now; they are so angry that the pundits blamed it on the jihadist (probably correctly) that the jihadists are now going to plan an attack because of sterotyping. The author is so desperate for this attack not to be by the usual middle eastern nutbags, that he emplores us not to use common sense, by blaming the very people that tell us daily they want to kill us. Its dopes like this that are acutually the ones responsible for this and the next attack as they refuse to properly allow profiling and other such tools.

http://guerillatics.com

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:51 | 1482661 Use of Weapons
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The very fact that you claim that 'they refuse to properly allow profiling and other such tools' makes my nose wiggle.

'Cause either you don't realise they do, or you're dead set on pretending they don't. Given the precise and spot on Libertarian honey-pot site you advertise, my two cents is on the latter - because, somehow, you managed to issue a demand for hard-nosed government profiling / intel / force prediction & preventative action, whilst hosting an Amerikan Dreamz site... you know, the kind where Libertarians decry all of those as against the constitution. And you didn't name it "Randy Times are Good times"... nooo, you went for the militant sounding "Guerrrrrillllazzzz".

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmILOL55xP0

 

[Note - you should perhaps research who wrote the Telegraph piece. Government and Queen sanctioned reportage, that was, my old bean - next time, try not to give your game away so easily, or are you the new intern?]

 

 

#opMetalgear

#hivemind

#tRaCe

#FullScrape (for being a douche)

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:07 | 1482760 Ironmaan
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Have you missed the stories on 6 year olds, babies, and grandmothers being searched by the TSA? Thats a pretty broad profile. Not sure how effective it is. This is a financial site and most people in the finance industry play the odds to make their living. Why would our lives and safety be any different. Would you really place a bet that the next attack would NOT be a person of middle eastern decent and muslim? Please drop the self-rightous sillyness and try some objectivity and reason for a change.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:40 | 1482809 Use of Weapons
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The TSA has nothing to do with Muslim terrorists you shill. It has nothing to do with actual threats to your country. It is the same mechanism as "duck and cover" you fucking sheep. OH MY GOD MUST PANIC - GOVERNMENT SAYS AMBER ALERT. Baaaaa. Baaaaaa.

Note - lived in London during X years of active bombing. Unlike you fucking Texan* Americans. When will the shills learn that many other countries [which - GOSH - you sent arms and money to the terrorists doing the bombing, cunts] have lived under the threat of terrorism, and not gone all crack-cocaine-nutter over?

Oh. Wait. We did remove all bins from central London. We didn't even up the # of cameras, that came later under the Blairite "panopticon agenda for the big boys as science experiment" 13 years.

 

You're dismissed, Intern. Now go promote that honey-pot... clueless newbie. Better yet, go spend 6 months in a country like Lebanon and wonder how it became such a shit hole.. when it once was #4 financial market in the world. Hint: real terrorists got involved. Oh, and for a Libertarian warrior hosting the GUERILLIAZZZ site, you're a bit of a chump. Or rather.. first Libertarian I've seen who thinks that the TSA is solely existing due to "evilz muslams". Your logic seems to be "If no EVIL MUSLAMS then NO EVIL TSA GROPERS", at which point I rescind your rights to mental abilities and give them to chimps, and plan to eat your children... I have a taste for lamb this week.

 

For a "libertarian" you have an awfully large faith that the good government is only doing stuff due to the evil people in the world... but wait. You work for the government, if our scrapes of Geurrrliaaazzz site is true, don't you?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLnkQAeMbIM&feature=relmfu

 

Lulz.

 

 

 

#opMetalgear

 

 

[*Son, there's only two things that come from Texas....]

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:39 | 1482679 nhsadika
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I am quite sure you're not reading this right.  "Senseless crusade" - err...like the hundreds of thousands that clock into millions,  that are slaughtered in err...."wars on terror."  You know that nation that spends 50% of taxes in on War!  To defend itself...un hunh...

The mirror needs to be turned inward.  We are living in a war machine, that uses "little bad guys" blows them up to huge scale to justify slaughter and subjugation.  Here's another act of the war machine, money printing.  Dollarizing the world through force, and then debting out / printing out to further force arm sales, instigate trouble, fund "radicals" of the day, "secure" (steal) oil supplies, and generally not do what is in the best interest of those countries or people.   It is unfortunate that many of them are Muslim, and Islam allows war on oppressors.  The story flips out when we start saying they are the ones trying to dominate the world.  Laughable!

Tsk tsk on them if they get upset, eh?  

ps: nobody is saying that killing innocents (terrorism) is ok, and in fact Islam from any scholar of school of repute  denounces that VEHEMENTLY

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:39 | 1482692 suckerfishzilla
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wtf

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:39 | 1482694 Contura
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" al queda terrorist" identified as 32 year old native norwegian male.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:41 | 1482697 zerozulu
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I feel like saying," Fuck you all who could not wait few minutes and blamed Muslims for this attack"

 

10.06pm: Police have linked the suspect they are holding to both attacks.

10.01pm: Neil Perry tells me the police have said that the same man was seen at the site of both attacks.

He thinks this is starting to look less like the work of international terrorists and more like that of a lone attacker with a grudge against the government.

9.48pm: The Norwegian justice minister has confirmed at a news conference that the suspect arrested today at the youth camp in Utøya was Norwegian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-cov...

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:49 | 1482721 Use of Weapons
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http://mindhacks.com/2011/05/04/why-the-truth-will-out-but-doesnt-sink-in/

You're missing the point - even if this was done by fucking Scooby Doo, everyone will remember one thing only:

Large Bomb = Muslim Extremists

Large Bomb = Islam

Large Bomb = Scary 'ragheads' we're at war with

Killing children = Islam

Killing children = Muslims

Killing children = people whose children we're actually killing - 500,000 in Iraq alone so far!

 

Welcome to the Spectacle. Time to wise up, and get educated, because the other side are playing Chess while you're still playing in the mud. Learn Go!

 

Your baby steps start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Society_of_the_Spectacle

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:48 | 1482719 Richard Whitney
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Check YouTube for videos of Scandinavians being converted to Islam. Isn't saying it couldn't be Islamisist terrorists because one was described as 'Nordic-looking' itself racial stereotyping?

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:56 | 1482744 zack
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Um, if they converted to Islam so what.  

There are some very evil forces, and their goal has been to be racially and religiously allow for wanton wars and occupation.  To do that the link is  Islam = Terrorist.  Sorry, these people are few and far between, and yes there are angry men around the world who are in wars of our own creation - ie blow back.  This is not a religious matter.

You should be ashamed of yourself for not seeing what you've done in your own mind.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 17:53 | 1482729 zack
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Hamza Yusuf “Religious zealots of any creed are defeated people who lash out in desperation, and they often do horrific things. And if these people [who committed murder on September 11] indeed are Arabs, Muslims, they’re obviously very sick people and I can’t even look at it in religious terms. It’s politics, tragic politics. There’s no Islamic justification for any of it. ... You can’t kill innocent people. There’s no Islamic declaration of war against the United States. I think every Muslim country except Afghanistan has an embassy in this country. And in Islam, a country where you have embassies is not considered a belligerent country. In Islam, the only wars that are permitted are between armies and they should engage on battlefields and engage nobly. The Prophet Muhammad said, ``Do not kill women or children or non-combatants and do not kill old people or religious people,’’ and he mentioned priests, nuns and rabbis. And he said, ``Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees and do not poison the wells of your enemies.’’ The Hadith, the sayings of the Prophet, say that no one can punish with fire except the lord of fire. It’s prohibited to burn anyone in Islam as a punishment. No one can grant these attackers any legitimacy. It was evil.” 2001 -  Yusuf, Hamza (USA) Scholar of Islam  

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:02 | 1482753 zack
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Remember, we poison and attack drinking water systems.  Terrorism my friends.

Ok by Madeline Albright, your social security dollars at work.  "It was worth it"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

 

Source documents that prove Iraq drinking water was targeted.

http://www.progressive.org/mag/nagy0901.html 

At a House hearing on June 7, Representative Cynthia McKinney, Democrat of Georgia, referred to the document "Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities" and said: "Attacking the Iraqi public drinking water supply flagrantly targets civilians and is a violation of the Geneva Convention and of the fundamental laws of civilized nations.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:08 | 1482764 Contura
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Rumors saying Neo Nazi named Daniel de Linde responsible for attacks

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:00 | 1483317 Esso
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Curious that one of them evil "Neo-Nazis" would want to kill a bunch of children advocating a boycott of Israel.

Maybe he's a "Neo Reformed Neo Nice Neo Nazi."

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:22 | 1482818 zebrasquid
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Jihadist profiling is the same as ethnic and racial profiling?

Really?

Jihadists are self-profiled, intolerant, and violent reactionaries.  I think it more than fair to profile them -  we don't need to bend over backwards to be so tolerant of intolerance or to not defend ourselves against them.  If that means being on guard, and assuming that they are behind most bombs that go off, then so be it.  When they change their ways, we can let our guard down.

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:27 | 1482881 Use of Weapons
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Would you be so kind as to name the painting your avatar is a representation of, please.

 

I believe this will clear a lot of confusion up.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:59 | 1483059 zebrasquid
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Daniel Boone.

Thanks for your interest.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 19:05 | 1483086 Use of Weapons
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You got it slightly wrong, but no matter (Daniel Boone Escorting Settlers through the Cumberland Gap), the point is made:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminism_%28American_art_style%29

“the origins of luminism as an art-historical term were deeply entwined with the interests of elite collectors, prominent art dealers, influential curators, art historians, and constructions of national identity during the Cold War.”

 

Puntastic!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:28 | 1482882 Use of Weapons
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Oooh, so silly - stop checking my packets you kinky man!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:23 | 1482851 viator
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"Praise be to Allah from his slaves, united and humiliating the people of shirk [worship of others besides Allah] and companions of kufr [unbelief]. Prayers and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets, his family and companions and descendents.

Today Norway has been targeted in order to be a lesson, and a lesson to the rest of Europe. We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations and we have demanded that European countries of Europe withdraw their armies from the land of Afghanistan and end their war on Islam and Muslims. We repeat our warning again to the countries of Europe and tell them that the demands of the mujahideen must be carried out. What you see is only the beginning. There will be more.

There were many reasons for the targeting of Norway. The most important is their participation in the occupation of Afghanistan and the abuse of our prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Praise Allah who has enabled his slaves to be united…and pray to Allah to save our brothers and our fighters everywhere"

 

 

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/07/22/first-hints-of-islamic-connect...

http://www.jihadica.com/alleged-claim-for-oslo-attacks/

http://twitter.com/#!/will_mccants

 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:26 | 1482874 Use of Weapons
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Wow.

You linked to a site I linked to over 5 hours ago, and even missed the text that states: Update: Abu Sulayman has now issued a retraction, stating clearly that “Helpers” was not involved in the operation and that his statement was not an official statement. He says those who carried out the attacks “must surely be known to all.”

 

You also have no idea who he is, nor who the IFF is, do you?

Srsly. #opMetalGear overload in here tonight.

 

#ScRAPE

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 18:43 | 1482984 Contura
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38 taken to hospital suffering gunshot wounds. Witness saying gunman equipped with "sniper" rifle.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 19:28 | 1483183 alien-IQ
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The camp that was attacked had a Pro Palestinian rally...YESTERDAY:

 

The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout...

 

This just looks less and less like a "muslim" target by the minute.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 19:49 | 1483222 Use of Weapons
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Reports now confirm that this is an Amok [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok] style attack, not a political one.

There's your killer - [warning - dead white people in shot]

http://www.abcnyheter.no/files/imagecache/wide/2011-29/utoya980_0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KgUmy.jpg

 

And his FB page:

http://nb-no.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254?...

 

Note his interests / reading patterns... [all via Reddit - kudos to their reach]. All readers, if they haven't already, should familiarise themselves with "Stand on Zanzibar" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_on_zanzibar] for an educational and depressing tour de force of how the 60's predicted such behaviour.

 

 

 

Sleep well.

 

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