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Single White Norway Psychopath Killer: Anders Behring Breivik, 32, Nationalist, Hates Islam

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Perhaps it is time for the Telegraph to issue a retraction to its kneejerk publication in which it automatically cast blame on Islamists and other "eastern" terrorists-by-default. Because according to just released info, they could not have been more wrong, and it is the reaction to precisely this type of prejudice that will never facilitate bridging frayed relations between disparate cultures. Anyway, so much for prejudiced speculation and/or lies about some Islamist organization taking the blame for the events in Norway today. Here is the truth:" VG has
received confirmation from several independent sources that it was
Anders Behring Breivik, who was arrested by armed police after the mass
killings of Utøya Friday.
  VG was also present when the emergency squad took action against the flat 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo. Several foreign media have also named Breivik as the perpetrator." More on his motives: "A childhood friend of Breivik says to VG Nett that he should have been right-wing in the late 20's, and posted a series of controversial opinions on Facebook." And the kicker, for all the bigots out there: he was an ultra nationalist who hated Islam. Today's tragic events were merely the outburst of deranged and very much troubled Loughner, McVey-like psychophath. And nothing more.

A picture of the accused:

And more:

In online debates he makes his mark as a well-read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community.

He has had many posts on the site, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.

In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.

He also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.

There is more in the full article here but the gist is clear: this is a case where blaming Islamist or Jihadist jingoism is about as far from the truth as possible.


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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:12 | 1483364 SteveOoooo
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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:28 | 1483460 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The sad thing is that, for far too many people, their Pavlovian conditioning is complete. Their brains have become practically hardwired to associate bombs and "terraists" with Moslems and "jihadists". Perversely, the supposed bomber being a blonde-haired Norwegian will only strengthen their belief that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were behind this attack.


Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:13 | 1483669 trav7777
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we have FEMA videos to disabuse us of that now

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:00 | 1483850 Cheesy Bastard
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Yes, I saw that video at the check out at Walmart.  If you see something, say something.  (No offense to Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles.  I am not sightist or racist or a pianist or even musically inclined.)

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:05 | 1483872 Pure Evil
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I saw some ugly fat-assed bitch scratching her ass the other day, should I report that to Janet at the DHS?

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:22 | 1483915 Cheesy Bastard
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No, I doubt Michelle Obama is a terrorist.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:33 | 1483953 narapoiddyslexia
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Looks like he shot at least 80 people on the island.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:56 | 1484012 Bananamerican
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"And the kicker, for all the bigots out there: he was an ultra nationalist who hated Islam"

Who wrote this? Is this the globalist Durden again?

I speculated it might have been Libyans but who really knew?

Anyone who claimed to know for a FACT before the fact could be dismissed....

Why the triumphalism that the perp was a whitey??

Are there no more Muslim attacks to come?

Globalist Durden, i rate this post ONE STAR

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 23:49 | 1484133 Doña K
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I guess the next miss in manufacturing ouput and job losses will be blamed on this guy.

BTW: We still do not have all the facts and I was a bit surprized that Tyler came out blazing. Time will tell  

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 00:42 | 1484251 Bananamerican
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There are several people writing as "TD" on ZH aren't there? (the sheer volume of posts suggest as much)

There's a droll one with an excellent wit and command of the english language, rails against fascism and says he wants to expose the Bankers so regular folks don't blame themselves for what's about to hit them...

But there's another TD voice, more intemperate, that seems to "imagine there's no countries..."

...promotes illegal immigration, Open Borders, the brilliance of Chinese "capitalism" and now pounces with a "passionate" AHA! at the revelation of a white perp.

I'd say this TD is either a non-white racist, or married to one, or was molested by an american boo-radley lookalike as a child...

This TD can go fuck himself.

I called bullshit on W.

I call bullshit on O.

I call BS on this TD.

Junk THIS sycophants

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 00:55 | 1484282 AldousHuxley
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at least 87 dead.




Sat, 07/23/2011 - 18:08 | 1485606 Mentaliusanything
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Death toll is now 92 - One gunman my ass. Now waiting for the "Intelligence" Agency's to use some grey matter and realise it. What a clusterfuck Government agencies have become.18

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 18:16 | 1485617 -Michelle-
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He's got a higher mortality rate than bacterial meningitis.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 20:12 | 1485820 Hey Assholes
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I am sure our oppressors will spin this to justify their rape of air travelers, and to justify doing it at the mall.

Watch and see.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:08 | 1484296 BigJim
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But there's another TD voice, more intemperate, that seems to "imagine there's no countries..."
...promotes illegal immigration, Open Borders, the brilliance of Chinese "capitalism" and now pounces with a "passionate" AHA! at the revelation of a white perp.

If he's promoting 'Open Borders', then it wouldn't be illegal immigration, would it? I have yet to see any of the TDs espouse the 'brilliance' of Chinese 'capitalism', either.

And given all the previous assumptions that the Norway killer(s) were muslims - including many commenters here on ZH - I think a little pouncing is justified.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:49 | 1484332 i-dog
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No junks from me. You nailed it on all counts!

I miss the "real TD" (when he's resting).  :)

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:11 | 1484413 clymer
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Hey Tyler, you think that there is a "possibility" that this could be false-flag? I mean, you know, just a slight chance?


You mentioned McVeigh but not any of the overwhelming evidence that he was orchestrated by Fed's.


I realize this isn't infowars, but it wouldn't kill you to objectively explore the chance of false flag, given the evidence surrounding 9-11, 7-7, OKC, Mumbai and on and on, ad nauseam


Trust nothing you read, and only half of what you see

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:52 | 1484462 bank guy in Brussels
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Had put this on GW's thread ... Possibilities in 'false flag domestic terrorism' -

So-called 'homegrown' mass-murders and terroristic attacks, lead common people to live in more fear, and to depend more on the security state instead of seeking alternatives. These murders and their publicity, even help squash dissent and the ability to oppose the government.

Such 'homegrown terrorism' thus serves objectives of certain Powers That Be, who wish particularly to destroy the kind of more peaceful and more democratic and more secure lives that we have long enjoyed in Western Europe, with our greater freedom to hit the streets, call general strikes and shut down and cashier governments.

Recall Operation Gladio in Italy, the US and Nato agents killing people while pretending to be local Communists, issuing totally bogus 'false flag' - waving statements, in order to move Italy toward the right wing and to try to diminish leftist popularity. Only years later did it fully emerge the murderers were not Communists at all.

After the Oklahoma City bombing in the 1990s in the US, the US dissident 'militia' movement was decimated and de-moralised by being associated with the tragedy rather than with the militia concept in the US Constitution of 1789. Many today doubt it was Timothy McVeigh who did the bombing, including writer Gore Vidal who extensively communicated with him.

After mass shootings took place in Britain in the 1990s, the UK began a mass confiscation of all privately owned handguns, preparing a way both for increased crime against citizens in England, and for the intrusive surveillance and police-security state that Britain is now today, with the traditional British bobby now something 'more like Robocop', as people describe him. (Note to Americans: We still have lots of privately-held guns on the Continent, it is not like Britain yet.)

In America, the traditional 'lone crazy gunman' or 'gunwoman', are said to often have connections to psychiatrists and drugs, which manipulate their minds, administered by psychiatrists secretly connected to the security state apparatus.

Once an appropriate 'loner' without sufficient family support, is identified by the CIA-type psychiatrists and put into the drugs and mind control programme, he can then be manipulated to become a mass murderer etc. once the signals are given to him that the 'time is right', along with a mental erasure of how he was handled and manipulated.

Adolf Hitler was put into care under a 'professional psychologist' after his being disabled in a poison gas attack in World War I ... and he emerged a 'man with a mission'.

Also interesting to consider, are the discussions of Mark Ames about 'going postal' on the website, where he describes the modern homegrown mass murderer, as the reaction of modern humans to a sense of feeling indeed enslaved and powerless in our modern societies.

Mark Ames says that the closest analogy to the mass murders of modern times, whether by gun or by knife (when guns are not available, as happens in China and some parts of the West now), with their targeting of so many innocents, are some of the historically recorded eruptions of actual slaves in the past, going on mindless murdering rampages and killing their innocent fellow slaves, out of blind rage combined with a similar sense of powerlessness.

Some of the Powers That Be want to create greater dependence on the modern, militarised Security State, as you can see being the hidden theme of many of these American-based police and cop and security shows, now turning European television into a half-wasteland as well. And such terrifying tragic murders serve the Powers That Be in that objective.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:46 | 1484540 narapoiddyslexia
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How does it fit into your theory that Norwegian police report that, "The suspect posted on websites with Christian fundamentalist tendencies, police say." ???

Also, this is the type of situation where individual gun ownership is of obvious importance and benefit. When Ronald Reagan was shot he was surrounded by heaviliy armed and well-trained agents who could not keep it from happening. It was over in three or four seconds. Same for the Congresswoman in Tuscon. This Norwegian animal was at it for an hour or so. ~700 people, and no one was armed. Jesus weeps.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:37 | 1485143 macholatte
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Having the right to bear arms is one thing, knowing how to use them is another and actually shooting someone is something altogether different.

Millions of people with guns is meaningless unless and until those people are organized into a militia, trained in combat tactics and have it firmly planted in their brains that shooting at the blue helmets is a good idea. Let us hope that day never comes and that the debate over the 2nd amendment goes on for another 200 years.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 16:15 | 1485431 madbomber
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'I like turtles.'   Works every time as an advanced level counter op.

the zombie makeup mask helps too.  just put it on any time you get paranoid.

the kid in the video is probably ONI by the sounds of it.  high level training as you can

see in the video.
















Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:50 | 1485177 Gringo Viejo
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IMHO, this reeks of psy/op. McVeigh Redux

White Male Christian Conservative  Child Killer.

Could the DHS ask for anything more?

Too clever by half.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 17:02 | 1485504 Stuart
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Junk you too. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:50 | 1486457 Bananamerican
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what kind of a DICK has bullets for an avatar?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 17:28 | 1485536 Blanc swan
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Pretty good post, except I don't agree with any of the TD's being fond of the Chinese economy.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:48 | 1486455 Bananamerican
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well, i didn't pull it out of my of them (seems to be an UBER Libertarian/Ayn Rand/Globalist TD) compared American fascism unfavorably to Chinese "capitalism" (how they were better "capitalists" etc) without mentioning Chinese indifference to workers rights, environmental regs, patents, the use of anti-competative policies, or the fact that China is an INHUMAN POLICE STATE (-I- mentioned those things). Every time this globalist TD pops his head up (There's no other way to describe him) I can "smell" his editorial voice and I call him on it and take the junks from those too clueless to realize there are multiple TD's.....I loathe this Globalist  TD as i call him....

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:00 | 1485066 caconhma
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Here we come again rushing with judgements, insinuations, and speculations.

Let us get all the facts.

Remember Lee Harvey Oswald who killed JFK with his "magic bullet"?

Remember Osama bin Laden who committed the 9/11 and needed daily dialyses but lived in a cave and whom Obama did not want to get alive to tell his story and, if guilty, provide valuable info about his organization?

People, you are pathetic suckers!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:29 | 1485308 Freddie
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A guy who hates Islam goes out and kills and kills no Muslims.  Yeah sure. 

Tyler Mustafa quoting the foreign news sources.  Who believes anything the

news media spews.  Yeah one guy did all this.  Okay.  This always seems to pop up when people are fed up with the left.  Never waste a crisis or event you can create.  Aka Wag The Dog.  


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:07 | 1487750 goldfish1
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Six More Arrested - Norway

Britain's Sky News now says authorities in Norway have arrested six people in connection to Friday's twin massacres in Norway.

At the same time, security officials in Europe say there has been an increase in internet chatter from people claiming to belong to a group called the New Knights Templar, a group allegedly being linked to suspect Anders Breivik, who has confessed his involvement in Friday's bombing in Oslo that killed seven people and the shooting deaths of at least 86 individuals at a summer youth camp on a nearby island. Four people remain missing.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, two European security officials say claims are being investigated that Breivik and other far-right individuals attended a meeting of the group in London in 2002.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:32 | 1484624 DosZap
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Word is, there were maybe two invoved.

The MSM is calling him a Right Wing Christian Fundamentalist.

The boys at all the MSM putlets, and the SPLC will have afield day with that rumor.

One of the near victims said he looked Nazi, because of his hair cut.(not the pic shown).

91 Dead...............

Gun Control will be next issue screamed about.

You cannot stop insane people.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:05 | 1484739 Bananamerican
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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:29 | 1484521 brew
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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 23:47 | 1484135 hangemhigh
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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 23:19 | 1484057 PierreLegrand
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Oh my gosh you mean muslims NEVER commit terror attacks? Holy smokes who knew?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:26 | 1484597 Harlequin001
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perhaps they don't commit as many as they get blamed for...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:53 | 1484700 Sudden Debt
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we only see the tip of the iceberg of muslim nutcrackers.


It's  not because THIS TIME they didn't do that we should go easy on them.

Their religion is against democracy. They want to kill christians. If you hear a bomb go off it 99% muslims related.

Just line them up. Make them stand in front of each other and try to use a less as bullets as possible to cut costs (remember, it's still a recession).

One day, we'll be at war with the muslims on our own ground.

I'm very convinced about that. 20/30 years from now.


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:45 | 1485157 macholatte
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What makes you think you are not at war with the muslims on your own ground?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:04 | 1485076 Spitzer
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This thread is about one person who decided to use the successful muslim tactic of terrorism to influence the world.

Obviously he got the idea from a muslim. The Fort Hood shooting.

The Fort Hood shooting was a mass shooting that took place on November 5, 2009, at Fort Hood ,

Nidal Malik Hasan took a seat at an empty table, bowed his head for several seconds,[12] and then stood up and opened fire. Initially, he reportedly jumped onto a desk and shouted: "Allahu Akbar!"[13][14] before firing at soldiers processing through cubicles in the center, and on a crowd gathered for a college graduation ceremony scheduled for 2 pm in a nearby theater.[15]

^Sound familiar ?

As for the bomb, that is a commonly used muslim terror tactic too. The Russian Airport bombing for example.

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:47 | 1485117 caconhma
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How do you know that the 9/11 was committed by Muslims?

The 9/11 was never investigated. The 9/11 commission stated that the Bush administration refused to cooperate and they were prevented from doing their job. Osama said that he did NOT do it.

I know why you are so confident: George Bush & Dick Cheney said so. WOW. You are a pathetic sucker.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 19:14 | 1485705 DosZap
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All where Saudi's..........they could have Catholic?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 01:10 | 1486380 frank888
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Re. 911 and other distractions...


You can find crazy peoples everywhere BUT very often they are not very much dangerous because to become a mass murderer you need a lot of money and knowledge....

The better questions are :

= where come from the money and who supply the training, the arms, the do the killings ?

= and above all, who will profit from their crimes ?

Lets have a look to what has been "achieved" after 911 :

= huge rise in the US military spending at a time where the cold war was finished !

Plus some other distractions in IRAK in order to find the famous "arms of massive destructions "...Did they found some ? No one. Do you remember the bla bla to the UN before the invasion between the former French PM ( he got some problems after that..) and Powell, the US Ambassador to the UN ? IRAK was the first step to have a full western control on the oil in the middle Est. The second step has been started few months ago with Libya and the third could start with an attack on..Iran !

= "Homeland security Act". A lot of laws not very firendly with freedom but these laws will be very usefull once you will have 30 or 40% unemployement in the US.

= drop of the interest rates in order to set the also famous housing boom,

= activation of the COG ( continuity of the Government ) by Bush then extended by Obama few months ago...Now the US enjoy a secret government ! Just for information the COG was set in case of nuclear war... yes, we will have soon a nuclear attack from Iran or North Korea !!


So let see what this new murdering will achieve..then you will know who win from it and so who set it up !

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:26 | 1488017 goldfish1
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This thread is about one person

Sure it is. Go back to sleep.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:02 | 1484932 GeorgeHayduke
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It's not about muslims or christians, it's about fanatics. Unfortunately, religion often brings out the worst in fanatics.

The key is that religious fanaticism can be found in political and economic ideals too. For example, the religion of patriotism. The oligarchs pull this one out all the time to get patriotic fanatics whipped into a frenzy so they can go kill some folks and take over their resources. Questioning these fanatics often proves dangerous.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:07 | 1484494 masterinchancery
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True, Islam is only responsible for 95% of the terrorism in the world, not 100%.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:27 | 1484516 Missing_Link
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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:32 | 1484526 GotElevenToes
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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:32 | 1484529 Pool Shark
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The exception that proves the rule...


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:24 | 1484593 Harlequin001
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and that'll be another statistic pulled straight out of your arse.

Perhaps you could justify this.

Nope, thought not...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:49 | 1484689 Sudden Debt
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I don't understand... Anders looks like this friend fanatic Arian guy.... must be a cry for attention. Let's all forgive him....



BAN RELIGION!! just like the commu's did... NO!




Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:28 | 1483932 JW n FL
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Be Prepared to give up more of your Constitutional Rights!


Mission Accomplished! + Change You Can Believe In! ='s More for them and Less for YOU!!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:34 | 1483955 JW n FL
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Home Land Security said it was going to be you white guys who believe in God and the Constitution who were the Largest threat to America!


You better put those Bibles Down and start talking about how much YOU! LOVEEEEE!! the Untied Nations!


or! become a statistic!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:12 | 1484299 BigJim
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Once they're done ransacking his house, I'm sure they'll 'find' his stash of inflamatory Rothbard and Ron Paul literature.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:22 | 1484423 JW n FL
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Suspect charged over Norway shooting spree, bombing

Websites of local farmer, 32, suggest he may be a Right-Wing, Christian Fundamentalist, according to the police.


Front Page Microsoft / hotmail / livemail / MSNBC!


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:28 | 1484435 sunnydays
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Committed the crimes on a 11 11 day.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:07 | 1484492 goldfreak
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Do these people even undertand what a Christian fundamentalist is? It's a Christian who holds to the fundamentals of Christianity, like the Trinity the deity of Christ, etc. It has nothing to do with bombings!

Are these people playing dumb or are they actually dumb?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:37 | 1484532 Pool Shark
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By definition, a "Christian Fundamentalist" could never be a terrorist.

...Or maybe I missed the part where Christ taught: "Go ye forth and slaughter your fellow man."


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:11 | 1484572 Kayman
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the part where Christ taught: "Go ye forth and slaughter your fellow man."

Uh... no, that was the other shaman- Mohamed.

First, marginalize your fellow man by tagging him an "infidel", then slaughter him.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:29 | 1484603 Gavrikon
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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:23 | 1484799 goldfreak
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well, if you find one passage in the New Testament justifying the killing of another human being, let me know, after all he did say love your enemies no?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:35 | 1484634 DosZap
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He's in  Norway, he had a machine gun,and other weapons.

He was not American, so how does your blather fit this tragedy?

It doesn't. Wipe the slobber off your face.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:17 | 1485271 JW n FL
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I said.. that Home Land Security SAID! that You People who believe in the Bible! and the Constitution would be the Terrorists up-coming!


So, send the Father Land a Note about how you dont like what they said! and leave me out of your old-man cant see / read straight bullshit! Your Generation let this shit get as bad as it is! and no its your savings and your social security getting ripped off! OOPS?!



Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:19 | 1485279 JW n FL
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Suspect charged over Norway shooting spree, bombing

Websites of local farmer, 32, suggest he may be a Right-Wing, Christian Fundamentalist, according to the police.


Front Page Microsoft / hotmail / livemail / MSNBC!


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:36 | 1488048 goldfish1
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I see your problem:


Do your own searching and find much much more to the story that what MSM wants you to think.

Anders Behring Breivik gripen för terrordåden i Oslo

"Anders Behring Breivik, according to own data, previously driven the blog Fjordman and later for many years been a writer for the anti-Muslim and Zionist bloggers Gates of Vienna and Jihad Watch, under the pseudonym Fjordman."


Why Europeans Should Support Israel

Fjordman - 4/22/2008


Why Israel's Struggle Is Our Struggle, Too


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 08:38 | 1484392 Tim White
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There was a quote by some terror "expert" that many more were killed by firearms, than the explosions. Here come the gun control creeps!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:44 | 1484674 DosZap
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Just in time for the U.N. Small Arms Treaty agreement..............funny, these things always seem to take pace when major pushes are on?.

Really sad for these people,and families,but damn sure glad for a change it wasn't here.

Of course,I am sure some fruitcake just got a revelation for a follow up copycat style event.

Never fails.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 16:03 | 1485394 benb
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McVeigh was Black Ops. He was part of a U.S. government action to blow up the Murrah Building. He even told family members he was part of a secret government operation. The Oklahoma City Bombing was run by the Feds and Three Dollar Bill Clinton. Numerous people reported that the ATF was stockpiling all sorts of explosives up in the building in the weeks prior to the phony Federal Government terrorism. One federal manager reported seeing McVeigh and Middle Eastern looking men (likely elements of the 4000 Iraqi Republican Guard secretly brought back by Bush Sr. after Gulf I) affixing what looked like plastic explosives in the basement and elevator areas in the days preceding the explosion. Our present Attorney General, Eric Holder was number three in the Justice Dept. at the time and ran the cover-up. The FBI was also involved. Witnesses were murdered. McVeigh had the same government psychiatrist as Sirhan Sirhan. That same psychiatrist ran the CIA’s MK-Ultra Mind Control program. And there is no end to this deceptive bullshit. Almost all terrorist attacks are run by governments including, 9-11, 7-7, WTC 93, Columbine, Fort Hood, and so on. The British/MI6 ran most of the bombings in Northern Ireland. Point is- don’t believe any of the phony news you hear coming out of the mainstream media. It’s likely either a lie or a distortion to subvert public opinion. I wouldn’t put any stock in this story coming out of Norway as being the truth of the matter.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:31 | 1483471 Arthor Bearing
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First they cam for the Muslims, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Muslim.

Then they came for the regulars on non-mainstream web sites....

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:44 | 1483530 High Plains Drifter
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then they came for the zerohedge bloggers........

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:21 | 1483701 Tortfeasor
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"But when they came for the damn joos, I cheered!"
Nothing about how wrong the hateful jew-bashing kneejerks were? Yeah, I thought not.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:32 | 1483740 Arthor Bearing
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It's now my responsibility to mention everything that happened in the comments in previous articles? This is Zerohedge, people spout off non-mainstream opinions all the time, that's why I made my comment, to tell people that this is serious and they could be targets. Clearly you are qualified to discuss the "hateful jew-bashing kneejerks" so please feel free.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:04 | 1483869 john39
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too soon to rule it out.  how do you know this guy was not used? old CIA/mossad mind trick.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:47 | 1483983 JW n FL
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This will put a stop to the Australian behavior of locking down the borders and protecting the Citizens first!


Open Borders are needed, Norway was well on its way with popular backing to keep the Jew Lobbyists and Muslims out!


and then! a white guy fucked it all up! what was already happening.. this guy was for! so he blew shit up and shot his own cause in the foot! all by himself for his Country!


Funny how all the Popular support for the cause against the Israeli Lobby Whore Owners and Muslims is now dead in the water. All for open borders and Global Unity!


Long Live the United Nations! All Praise be to the Lobby Whore Owners Israel!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:53 | 1484342 Raymond Reason
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Many people will write you off as a conspirist.  But the moniker "conspirist" has been villified as much as the faculty "discrimination". (A brain that can't discriminate is dumb, dim, dopey.)

For crying out loud, what is it the CIA, the Mossad, or any other intelligence agency actually does?  They conspire.  But anyone suspecting them of conspiring is a quack. 

I'm not saying i think you are correct, JW, but i give you as much chance of being right, as being wrong...maybe more. 

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:53 | 1484465 JW n FL
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General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud!


Dont listen to me.. listen to the General who ran Americans Intelligence Globally.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:42 | 1484453 NumberNone
Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:56 | 1484474 JW n FL
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American Jewish Committee Ann Schaffer: Immigration is a Jewish Issue

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:57 | 1484714 Rodent Freikorps
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Muslims are about 5% of population in UK.

The assassinations and bombings usually don't start until they reach around 10%, so yeah, I guess they need more to really get the party started.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 23:40 | 1484117 UGrev
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So we're at a count of 2 now?.. what's islam's count?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:13 | 1484300 BigJim
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Only 2?

Shouldn't we be counting every soldier in NATO as well?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:32 | 1484499 Idiot Savant
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And Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, too.

P.S. Why do these freaks lash out against children? I don't condone violence, but if you're going to lash out, lash out at the intended target. Why didn't he waste a bunch of bankers/politicians? What a POS!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:45 | 1484677 Loose Caboose
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I can understand the bombing of the government buildings - sending a political message.  Not condoning it but I understand the motive.  It's the deliberate hunting and slaughtering of the children that make me think he was just a psychopath using his political "ideals" as permission to indulge a basically sick urge to murder the defenseless. 

He would have, apparently, gathered and horded sufficient fertilizer over a period of time that supports it was pre-meditated.  He coordinated his appearance on the island, dressed as a cop, timed perfectly after the bombings to be credible in  his lie that he was there to check security after the bombings and thereby gain entrance to the camp.  Yup.  Psychopath. 

I doubt TPTB would have chosen a Mason if they were looking for a patsy.  Isn't that a little close to home?

This guy is a Grade A Large, Certified, Genuine - Psychopath.  Plain and simple. 




Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:49 | 1484688 DosZap
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Why?, because he is insane is why.

Real thinkers know to go for the head of the snake, not the tail.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 23:46 | 1486159 UGrev
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Why don't you ask the muslims that killed all those kids in Beslan...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:31 | 1484617 Harlequin001
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"a count of 2' what?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:12 | 1484575 fleur de lis
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Please don't tell me you believe the official TMcV alibi. He was a tool to control us through fear and assure the easier passage of more state intrusion. For additional safety and security, of course. I'm waiting to see what draconian laws are all of a sudden pulled in this awful case. Also, can someone please tell me how one person could inflict this much carnage?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:32 | 1484827 Ident 7777 economy
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by fleur de lis on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:12 #1484575 

Please don't tell me you believe the official TMcV alibi. He was a tool to control us through fear ...

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You guys only read the populist paranoia propaganda press (like the JBS literature)?


Ever do any research, like READ the McVeigh court/trial transcripts?


Or read the McVeigh book "American Terrorist"?


Probably not huh ...



Sat, 07/23/2011 - 16:13 | 1485420 JW n FL
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why would anyone waste their time reading what that Moron said?

he is another of the awake dreaming crowd.. they are pawns, poisoned lil pawns and taking the time to read the drivel they spout would do what for a person?

Killing Women and Kids? Mothers???

or like Arizona.. Shoot the lil pretty Congress Woman in the head? instead of one of the fat balding ugly rapists? YEAH!! that was helpful! How??


this bullshit reads like a cheap "B" Movie Plot!


But back to your read their book or care about what they were programed with? no thanks Piggy! you will need to derive probable cause from something other than my reading list.


All of you know this idiot is a Pig right? and he is wanting you to buy on your credit card books that will give someone some where probable cause to search you and your home later! He is a team player.. for the pre-school crowd!


Everyone! dont feed the Pig, please.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:15 | 1483380 SteveOoooo
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Big Sis was right???

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:16 | 1483386 Buckaroo Banzai
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Manchurian candidate.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:17 | 1483394 SteveOoooo
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Exactly the jist, but -> I <- didn't say that!!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:33 | 1483482 FEDbuster
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He will be whisked away to some remote military base in Norway, deemed not fit to stand trial, force fed some anti-psychotic drugs, locked up and throw away the key, etc.... Additional confirmation of the enemy within as profiled in the recent DHS propaganda video. 


Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:35 | 1483491 High Plains Drifter
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or he will be suicided within a month........

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:17 | 1484502 SilverIsKing
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Likely told if he did this, those bad Muslims will get the blame. I'm guessing the guy never read ZH.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:24 | 1483426 High Plains Drifter
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big brother can find people like this, equip them , help them , all the while making them think they are doing it all themselves.......therefore, mission is accomplished, dirty deed is done and the people truely responsible  are never found.......similar to

Timothy McVeigh. he caused the destruction of the white militia movement, in this country. in a similar vein this guy now will cause the destruction of white nationalism, at a time when it is sorely needed there.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:39 | 1483505 dejapfc
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+ 1000000000

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:48 | 1483552 High Plains Drifter
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check it out. the fbi does this all the time. we have all seen these poor black guys being rounded up for what?  oh my God, planning to blow up a army base etc.........well gee, how are these poor black guys going to get money to buy supplies? well along comes a nice agent provocateur fbi guy who is more than willing to help them in any way they can. so they load up with the fbi bought stuff and oh no, on their way, they are stopped by the cops.......imagine that.  then the headline comes across the tv.  fbi catches big muslim terrorist ring.........blah blah blah.........

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:10 | 1483654 SilverDosed
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Just like any other beauracracy, constantly growing and needing to justify its own existence. If we had twice as many DEA agents we'd bust twice as many drug dealers showing huge increases in drug crime statistics calling for more DEA agents who make more drug arrests showing an even bigger drug arrest statistic, lets go to war, hire ten times as many DEA agents and make ten times as many arrests showing a huge spike in crime statistics which increase exponentially all while the amount of money spent on the DEA rises exponentially but its justified because of this exponentially growing drug problem....hire twice as many traffic cops and write twice as many traffic tickets showing a huge increase in speeding justifying more traffic cops and more and more speeding tickets, lets declare a war on speeding and hire more and more traffic cops because the numbers dont lie, look at all those fucking speeding tickets, speeding has to be stopped, more cops, bigger budget, more people in jail. No one has to pay for it because we can just print more money ahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:15 | 1484304 BigJim
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Yes, the more you go looking for something the more you find. Odd that.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:40 | 1483512 dwdollar
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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:42 | 1483523 Buckaroo Banzai
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Hmmm. I believe these kinds of people are called...wait for it...manchurian candidates.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:34 | 1483752 Sambo
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Another example of a Manchurian candidate. Recently I had read about another one - Sirhan Sirhan.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:36 | 1485333 Freddie
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A Brit or Scottish guy did a documentary about RFK's assasination that night.  Not a haigograqphy like the libs with that dumb movie.  The hotel ballroom was filled with CIA and military "contractors."  They analzyed the audio and there were multiple gunshots.  Ditto Kent State there was shots or firecrackers just before the National Guard shots.

Sirhan was probably a semi Manchurian who had back up there just in case to make sure RFK was finished off.  This kid did all of this?  Yeah sure he did. 

Tyler sounds like he is part of the nwo gang as well.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:15 | 1483667 FeralSerf
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McVeigh was a tool.  It has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt that McVeigh's fertilizer bomb was not even remotely capable of doing the damage to the building that was observed.  ATF personnel were mostly missing when the blast went off.  Maybe they knew something?

It was a U.S. government operation to further confiscate the people's freedoms.  They hate freedom.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:35 | 1483758 delacroix
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vince foster, had handed over some clinton documents, to the FBI, which also happened to be kept, in the Murrah bldg.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:58 | 1483848 Things that go bump
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Well, George Bush did tell us that the terrorists hate us for our freedom.  Maybe he was right after all.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:09 | 1483878 israhole
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Hey, it's Chaim Witz!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 23:06 | 1484036 Freddie
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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:25 | 1484990 NoClueSneaker
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... hehehe, he was right . Although thick as a brick, he has a insider on his daddy's Carlyle Mujahedeens ...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:29 | 1484815 Ident 7777 economy
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by FeralSerf  on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:15 #1483667 

McVeigh was a tool. It has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt that McVeigh's fertilizer bomb was not even remotely capable of doing the damage to the building that was observed.  ... 

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As proven by just WHOM?


That 'gen parton' guy as reported by the New American/JBS rag?


Bzzzzzzt! Fail!


(See the book "American Terrorist" about McVeigh written via interviews with him and ppl he knew)




Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:19 | 1487945 FeralSerf
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"As proven by just WHOM?"

Whom?  Anyone with a decent scientific education.  You must not be one of those.

I knew the fertilizer bomb hypothesis (it's not even valid enough to make it to "theory") was bullshit when I first heard it and knew then that the ATF was probably involved.   Laws of Physics, inverse square law, energy available in an ammonium nitrate fuel oil reaction -- that sort of stuff.

"American Terrorist"  is not a credible account of what really happened.  It appears to be just another PTB propaganda piece.

e x c e r p t
title: Pentagon Report Reveals Multiple Blasts in Oklahoma City Bombing

According to the March 20, 1996 issue of Strategic Investment newsletter, a classified Pentagon study confirms that the Oklahoma bombing was caused by more than one bomb. A classified report prepared by two independent Pentagon experts has concluded that the destruction of the federal building in Oklahoma City in April 1995 was caused by five separate bombs. The two experts reached the same conclusion for the same technical reasons. Sources close to the Pentagon study are reported to have said that Timothy McVeigh did play a role in the bombing but peripherally, as a “useful idiot.”


Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:15 | 1483675 trav7777
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somebody will say that you dropped your briefcase and inside it is a copy of Emmanuel Goldstein.  You get through about a chapter before you wake up in the minilove

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 23:45 | 1484113 GoinFawr
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"He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community."

This guy a close friend of yours Trash? I mean that crap is yours almost verbatim; if you weren't posting comments I'd be wondering if you were in Northern Europe right now.

Anyway, he sure sounds like someone in which you could find a kindred spirit, your kinda guy.

Nice path you're on...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:19 | 1484307 BigJim
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The Norwegians let him use his iPhone in custody.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 17:41 | 1485563 Blanc swan
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lol, this moron is actually following trav around to pounce on every one of his comments.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 18:40 | 1485652 GoinFawr
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Only the stupid ones. Unfortunately, there are so many it's getting tough to keep up. What are you, his 'fluffer'?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:21 | 1484979 ItsEvolutionBaby
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Wow, these leftists following you around are sure filled with hate Trav.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:22 | 1485290 GoinFawr
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Wow, these regressive pillocks following you around are sure filled with love for your hate-filled trash Trash.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:11 | 1483888 Pure Evil
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Happened to Sirhan Sirhan, Arthur Bremer, Squeaky Fromme, James Earl Ray, Mary Surratt, Lee Harvey Oswald......

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:11 | 1484573 disabledvet
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You forgot Bugsy Malone. I mean that guy had FORESIGHT. Just for that they offed him. You know the best you really can do in this world is dig a hole and crawl in it with your can of beans and some chic with big hooters. I'm still trying to figure out how the sales pitch works (to the girl)...still thinking...and thinking..."i have a hole that"?...nope, no...still thinking...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:26 | 1484426 JW n FL
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by High Plains Drifter
on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:24


big brother can find people like this, equip them , help them , all the while making them think they are doing it all themselves.......therefore, mission is accomplished, dirty deed is done and the people truely responsible  are never found.......similar to

Timothy McVeigh. he caused the destruction of the white militia movement, in this country. in a similar vein this guy now will cause the destruction of white nationalism, at a time when it is sorely needed there.


What he said!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:02 | 1483608 High Plains Drifter
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if he hates muslims, then why did he blow up and kill a bunch of white people?

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:16 | 1483681 FEDbuster
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They were members of the Labor Party (Democrats). 

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:45 | 1483797 NumNutt
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Democrats!?!?!? Well then what is all the fuss about?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 00:11 | 1484182 FEDbuster
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Good chance he bought his machine gun from BATF agents.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:57 | 1484556 Rodent Freikorps
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Did you hear the story that State Dept. was selling the Zetas real military hardware?


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 17:11 | 1485512 FEDbuster
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This should be Obumer's "Watergate", but the debt ceiling is taking center stage.  This was Barry and Hillary's plan to prove that US guns were being used by drug lords in Mexico, and get Assult Weapons Ban v.2 passed by Congress.  They need to keep on following this story all the way to the top.  We need to keep pushing Congress to investigate this failed false flag operation all the way to the WH where it started.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 07:14 | 1484302 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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Right - I don't condone the violence, but we have to admit, better 90 future EU bureaucrats than 90 regular kids!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:19 | 1484583 disabledvet
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i find this crude attempt at humor at a time like this to be...

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:18 | 1483690 Advoc8tr
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That's what I was wondering?  Is he a little more refined in this thinking .... go after those of his own who are facilitating i.e traitors in his mind?

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:21 | 1483703 FeralSerf
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Maybe his handlers wanted to make a statement?  e.g. stricter gun laws?

I haven't seen how this connects with the bombs in Oslo yet.  It seems a stretch that one crazy guy is responsible to it all.  It also suggests coordination.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:30 | 1483732 A Lunatic
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Seems like a lot of trouble for 17 random people.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 22:53 | 1484001 Freddie
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Stop - you are making too much sense.  If he hated Muslims - why did he not kill them.  Leftist children?   Manchurian Candidate or a false flag mole. 

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:28 | 1484434 JW n FL
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It was YOU! and YOUR KIND Freddie!


The News told me so!




Suspect charged over Norway shooting spree, bombing

Websites of local farmer, 32, suggest he may be a Right-Wing, Christian Fundamentalist, according to the police.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:41 | 1485344 Freddie
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The news always tells the truth.  Even Tyler thinks so.   TV is even more truthful.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:47 | 1486337 frank888
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One of the goals of the globalists is to destroy all the religions and especially the Christian one !

Destroy the families also....

We must be let ALONE !

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 09:20 | 1484420 snakehead
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if he hates muslims, then why did he blow up and kill a bunch of white people?

Because they don't have enough righteous Jesus.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:17 | 1483391 louisianagold
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Big Sis can mount a goat.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:09 | 1483638 crazyjsmith
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Here we go, get ready to be gang raped by Homeland Security (SS) thugs, TSA, DOD, DEA, ATF, FBI, CIA, etc.....

See something, Say Something...thanks, we'll take it from here. 


Police State about to commence it's next stage of crackdown in 3-2-1.....


I am speachless - how predictable will the media follow up be?  I can't wait to watch what Anderson Cooper start shaping this into our next phase...homegrown terrorism.  Scary, and I don't mean the homegrown terrorists - I am referring to the alphabet soup terrorists above.   

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:26 | 1483718 FEDbuster
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The "Police State" is already here.  Watch this Canton, OH jackboot, cop threaten to "EXECUTE" a CCW permit holder for not informing him that he had a concealed weapon, after he had ordered him to "keep your mouth shut".  The dash cam video gets really interesting at the six minute mark:

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:16 | 1484963 DosZap
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COP was WAY out of line & Stupid, HE put his life in danger by NOT checking driver UP FRONT immediately.

Proper protocol was all screwed on this one, I think the COP was more pissed at his own stupidity at the thought of what he did wrong(secretly in his mind),I would have,if I was him.

The driver should have been  asked to get out of the car immediately,(HE was STUPID also) the Driver as soon as the Cops pulled up, he should have had his CCP/DL License's in hand holding in the air for the Cop to see.

Since he's in Chi Town, he's now got a felony, and can never own a weapon again,EVER.

Simply because of INTIMIDATION


I got my first ticket (speeding) in 41yrs,a couple of weeks back,waited for officer to come to window, he asked for DL & INS, and I handed him DL & CCP & INS  all at the same time.

He took all three ,went back to his squad car, came back  asked me where's the fire LOL,(told him,my fault head up ass), he wrote me up, told me to have a nice day, and left.

Never asked if I had a weapon, or where it was.

End of story.


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 19:17 | 1485710 FEDbuster
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The incident was in Canton, Ohio, not Chicago.  The cop has been relived of duty, but is still getting paid.  The driver still faces two misdemeanor charges of stopping in a roadway, and failure to inform of CCW.  He and his lawyer have opted for jury trial.  I think the trial will take about an hour (17 minutes of dash cam video should do it), and he will be found innocent on both counts.  Then he and his lawyer can sue the shit out of the police department and split a million bucks.

Here in AZ concealed carry is now legal for anyone over 21 able to lawfully own a gun.  No classes, no permit, no nothing.  Open carry has been legal here forever (remember the black guy carrying an AR15 outside the building where Obama was speaking?  Perfectly legal).  Anytime you are involved with the police, you have to inform them that you have a weapon.  They can secure it at their option.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:24 | 1484803 Ident 7777 economy
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Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:22 | 1483418 Blotsky
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Here we go. Janet is getting ready to pull an "I told you so." The guy is white and middle aged. No, he isnt Amerikan, but that wont matter once the DHS gets its spin set up. Makes my conspiritorial neurons whirl.

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:26 | 1483438 High Plains Drifter
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here we go again. its those evil blond haired blue eyed white western european men that must be exterminated for the good of the world.........

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:32 | 1483478 Strike Back
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What is your problem?  What is the world you envision?

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 20:51 | 1483567 Let em push you...
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If you can't see it from surfing comments here then I don't know how anyone can explain it.  Did you vote for Obummer?

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 21:23 | 1483708 RafterManFMJ
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I did not, but I will! 

My bumper sticker "Hasten the Collapse; Vote OBAMA!"

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