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Single White Norway Psychopath Killer: Anders Behring Breivik, 32, Nationalist, Hates Islam
Perhaps it is time for the Telegraph to issue a retraction to its kneejerk publication in which it automatically cast blame on Islamists and other "eastern" terrorists-by-default. Because according to just released info, they could not have been more wrong, and it is the reaction to precisely this type of prejudice that will never facilitate bridging frayed relations between disparate cultures. Anyway, so much for prejudiced speculation and/or lies about some Islamist organization taking the blame for the events in Norway today. Here is the truth:" VG has
received confirmation from several independent sources that it was
Anders Behring Breivik, who was arrested by armed police after the mass
killings of Utøya Friday. VG was also present when the emergency squad took action against the flat 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo. Several foreign media have also named Breivik as the perpetrator." More on his motives: "A childhood friend of Breivik says to VG Nett that he should have been right-wing in the late 20's, and posted a series of controversial opinions on Facebook." And the kicker, for all the bigots out there: he was an ultra nationalist who hated Islam. Today's tragic events were merely the outburst of deranged and very much troubled Loughner, McVey-like psychophath. And nothing more.
A picture of the accused:
And more:
In online debates he makes his mark as a well-read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community.
He has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.
In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.
He also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.
There is more in the full article here but the gist is clear: this is a case where blaming Islamist or Jihadist jingoism is about as far from the truth as possible.
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Trav7777, used to be Trav777, so I'm wondering if Bob used to operate under a marginally different moniker too.
Someone attempting to discredit otherwise reasonable human beings who aren't using their original accounts anymore most likely.
There is a lot of this ID mocking on ZH to spam trolls (eg. 'HamyWanger'), what is to stop the trolls from doing the same?
And.... the deep seated quiet bigotry and racism of those who refuse to react with similar outrage and hold muslims to the same standards of civilized behavior as Westerners who commit acts of unimaginable horror is deafening.
The default comfortable PC consensus, it seems, is to react as if Islamic terrorism is the unfortunate result of a mysterious third world mental insufficiency, instead of a purposeful worldwide movement.
The Islamic apologists might as well just say out loud, "Well, muslims are just backwards uncivilized people who just aren't smart enough to understand that blowing up an airplane full of people is wrong, so they get a pass, because they're not really capable of knowing any better."
That attitude is the expression of real bigotry and prejudice.
Hey gwar, who has bombed and invaded whom?
For centuries?
C'mon, payback is a bitch, but come it will. And no one can see it. Slavery, a mere 40 years abolished, is a joke, it's pernicious effects on the black population an in-convenience.
For intellignt people to be bigoted shows how hollow a degree is when it comes to instilling some humanity.
ORI
Take this to bed and share it with all the other folks who feel this way.
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/as-the-great-wheel-turns-relentlessly/
et cetera ad nauseam
I don't think the average sample of people would consider the muslim world to be part of the "brown people" category...just a thought.
Ok...
So would you throw them in the "white people", or "asian people" category?
For everything else there's MasterCard.
hey, bob_d,
have you seen this, from earlier?
The Oslo "Jihadist Terrorist" Blame Game BeginsSubmitted by Tyler Durden on 07/22/2011 14:12 -0400
No, I wouldn't think, I'd just throw them into a politically correct "brown people" category, si se puede.
You didn't have to tell me you don't think, it's obvious. You are a slave to the ambiguity that exists in political correctness.
You're one of those "we all bleed red" so we are the same people. An elephants busted hemorrhoid bleeds red to, you are both one in the same.
I'm done with this fucking ridiculous chatter, I have no idea why you are disagreeing with me dude. I think you misunderstand me.
and people cannot WAIT to jump up and down at the chance to call whites bigots, can you?
The fact that most muslims are brown and that most bombers are muslim...it doesn't concern you. That if you took a guess about a random bombing you'd have a, what, 99% chance of being correct on a PURE GUESS that it would have been from this group.
No. What matters most is the opportunity to slam white people as bigots. Every chance you get.
It is NOT BIGOTED to make a STATISTICAL GUESS as to the probable demographics of an actor, you moron.
Bull-fucking shit. You are a bigot, and it has clouded your view of the world to such an extent that you would rather sterilize billions of people than think about the flaws in your own thinking.
You're in line to be the next mass murderer, unrepentant loner boy.
Also, lol, that you hate being called a bigot for advocating mass sterilization.
Why don't you off yourself, you weak little shit?
Sterilization would be a second best to sending blacks back to Africa.
Blacks are so much better they should be able to create a profitable and wealthful continent. They are completely capable of taking of themselves right? ha
I mean with all the great advances from blacks like peanut butter, fried chicken, and stop lights the blacks should be able to create a grand black utopia in Africa and leave us whites alone (with every other advancement we created)
bob, I can't tell if you're a troll or just dumb. Could you clarify?
I would be more than happy to elaborate for you.
Check any black community (anywhere in the world) It will be full of crime, disease, and violence. If I'm wrong, let me know.
Check on any community that is primarily white (anywhere in the world). You will find the anthesis of the aforementioned.
If you want me to clarify further, let me know.
We have Black Entertainment Tele, Congressional Black Caucus, black365.com, affirmative action, and everything else.
Blacks are equal to whites? Prove it. Show me a successful black community anywhere in the world. You can't. In this country whites pay the taxes and blacks collect welfare (and benefits). In this country blacks get preferential treatment for jobs (by being black) and still can't hold the jobs.
Check the jobless demogrphics. Compare it to the worlds jobless demogrphics.
Please tell me you don't have kids...
Before I answer your insipid questions, did mean a Black community that is pre colonial or post?
Why don't you assume both and answer accordingly to both.
I anxiously await your statisics (NOT opinons)
I am excited.
Ever consider questioning the perspective of your 'statistics'?
Or do you only put things under a microscope that don't support the way you want to see the world?
haha
That's what I thought.
No, that is your problem: you aren't thinking.
Stats can be the direct result of opinions, dumbass. Especially pig headed bigotted ones like yours.
But go on, name your sources, if you're so fucking positive they can be trusted. After all, so far all I've seen from you is opinion stated as if it's fact.
One more thing before I begin truly wasting your ignorant assertions: define a 'successful' civilization.
Buck up buttercup.
Zimbabwe printed the first 100 trillion dollar bank note, there is something new from a black nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations
Read up buttercup (I know reading is not your strength) but try your hardest.
Your 'sources' are colonial, and fish belly white (why am I not surprised). Are you just phishing for research you're too lazy to do yourself, or do you honestly believe the twaddle you've been spinning? Is it truly possible in 2011 for someone to have faith in outdated dyed in the wool wilfully ignorant prejudice such as you profess?
But seeing as you have only expressed respect for those that (I'm guessing) match your dearth of skin pigmentation, I'll humour you and play along:
"For many centuries Africa and its people seemed mysterious and even perverse to the rest of the world. Generations of traders anchored their ships off the continent's glittering surf line... They knew and valued Africa's gold and ivory, but the continent itself remained a puzzle.
Many answers were proposed, but most of them served only to deepen the darkness that surrounded the image of Africa... the Europeans resorted to a...conclusion-one that reflected their inability to judge any culture except in terms of their own. Africans, they decided, were just savages, inferior beings, and had always been so.
This simple-minded answer to the riddle of Africa has lasted right up to modern times (And is yet propagated by little man dingleberry cling ons like Gob_Thumbelina- Ed.)... On the contrary, its people have had a long and lively history, and have made an impressive contribution to man's general mastery(sic)of the world.
The early explorers sometimes glimpsed these truths, seeing what other men afterward forgot. In 1498, Vasco da Gama and his Portuguese sailors, having thrust their small ships down through the south Atlantic and around the Cape of Good Hope, were gladdened to come upon tall stone towns of comfort and wealth along the East African coast. They went ashore to find a people who knew as much about charts and compasses as they did, and were sometimes more civilized; the Portuguese were repeatedly snubbed for being uncouth....
...Africans, who eventually spoke more than a thousand different tongues, had almost as many systems of behavior and belief. Some of these systems produced societies whose standard of living-in terms of food, personal safety and freedom-equaled that of contemporary European societies. In some instances they were more advanced: African societies practiced simple but effective social welfare in their concern for widows and orphaned children.
This is the Africa that Muslims wrote about in the 9th and 10th centuries, and that Europeans began to see for themselves in the latter half of the 15th century. Instead of a primeval wilderness, these visitors found prosperous, self-contained cities linked to each other by a busy, carefully ordered trade. Their inhabitants-merchants, laborers, clerks-lived comfortable lives.
But in spite of this, marvelous or merely absurd tales about Africa continued to circulate in Europe. There were several reasons why. One was secrecy... A second was the dishonesty of literary hacks (like yourself Gob-Ed.) who concocted all sorts of nonsense for a gullible public. A third was the debasing effect of the slave trade. The records of the slaving centuries are full of references to Africans as "children who never grew up," and of paternalistic assurances about the good that was being done for them by non-Africans. Out of this carefully nurtured misconception came the great theme of the colonial epoch, the idea of "the white man's burden..." - Basil Davidson (Frog bottomed white enough for you?)
A very short list of 'successful' African states and cities: Egypt. Benin. Timbuktu. Awdoghast. Gao. Kush.
Merchant Empires: Ghana (700-1200 AD), Mali (1200-1500AD), Songhai(1350-1600AD), Kanem-Bornu (800-1800AD)
Basil D. continued:
"...As time went by, these cities amassed great wealth. Writing in the 10th century, the Arab geographer Ibn Hawqal remarked that a merchant in Sijilmasa owed his partner in the Saharan city of Awdoghast the immense sum of 40k goldn dinars (a dinar was the weight of 72 grains of barley)...
...Dutchman, Olfert Dapper..."These Negroes(sic)...are much more civilized...They are a people who have good laws and a well-organized police..."
...Africans are now known to be skillfully inventive in many ways. They developed tropical farming techniques that have scarcely been bettered to this day. They were good miners and metalworkers, producing, among other things, a steady supply of the gold that went into medieval European currencies, and without which those currencies might well have been impossible. They were astute businessmen, as more than one non-African merchant had occasion to know. They operated political and social systems of considerable flexibility and sophistication."
I'll gladly take the experience and erudition of one who has actually been and lived in Africa as more factual anyday over the depraved rantings of a backwater Seedsville hick like yourself who is obviously too thick to look past his own screen door.
Now for the pasty Finn. Aside from all the questions raised by who creates 'IQ' tests in the first place, and who they are specifically engineered to award higher scores to, by your own link:
"For 104 of the 185 nations, no studies were available. In those cases, the authors have used an estimated value by taking averages of the IQs of neighboring or comparable nations..."
Yeah, with well over half of those numbers being outright projections of the bigoted Finn's prejudices, that just has to be accurate (sarc.) Perhaps you should try 'reading up' through the whole spiel before you post such hogwash as if it's God's truth. In other words the answer to,
"Ever consider questioning the perspective of your 'statistics'?" is a big, phat, 'No'.
A far more valuable and useful study would be to examine which cultures have the easiest access to inexpensive, quality education, and contrast those findings with cultures that have been raped for centuries by colonialism, and now neocolonialists who have a vested interest in deliberately keeping the populations they continue to abuse 'dumbed down'. Which would alter the weighting and order of such a list greatly, if it was to be honestly tallied.
IE Ignorance isn't stupidity, and expecting a Christian to score as well as a Muslim on a test about the contents of the Koran is hardly fair, as would be the inverse (though I'd lay a wager and give odds on the results).
However stupidity does often breed ignorance, a prime example of which is the likes of you.
Well, you use really, obviously dumb argumentation in all your posts. I just don't think you're going to get through to any intelligent people. So either you know this, and are just trololin, or you're just a dumb guy who dosn't understand logic.
That is for gob_thumbelina, right?
Yes, are you one of his dupe's? B/c he never addressed my question, and you ran a great distraction by taking his bait.
Bite your tongue.
You're getting a little testy. Why don't you explain to us again how you've looked at all the evidence about 9/11 and you don't think it was an inside job?
That's right, just like every talking head on the boob tube is most likely one of "the chosen".
My bigotry was right on 9/11, Spanish/London bombs, Texas shooter, Mumbai bombings etc. etc.
Oh I see.
The answer is the last line of the article.
"The 32-year-old is among other things, registered as a member of Oslo gun club and the Masonic Lodge. "
Sad he was deceived by these paltry demonic 'time changing law changing' black magicians.
Sad for all of you being deceived by same.
Jesus is Lord
A Mason? Well isn't THAT interesting...
Why would anyone know he is a Mason? Do they publish their membership list?
Odd. The disinformation starts as soon as the shooting stops. Just like columbine. The authorities wait around til the shooting stops because they are afraid of bombs.
It is like whomever is in charge wants to run the body count up. Keep anyone heroes out who could actually stop the killing.
Proof
The Illuminati Attack!
good call ZH...
the telegraph should be doing a better job then that.
scandinavia is riddled with nazi a-holes
old europe is becoming old europe again what a mess
Neo-nazism is a symptom of a deteriorating society where wealth desparity (perceived or real) increases at the cost of social stability/unity (which in a part is racial harmony).
People cling to racism when their livelihoods are threatened.
Government by nature is liberal because their revenue is guaranteed. More muslims, more taxes, more power because they have to provide for the new poor.
this is just dipshittedness...
nobody ever let go of racism, dude...only in the liberal white mythology does racism need to be expunged. Latinos, blacks, jews, asians...all practice it without apology; they never stopped when the word "racism" was coined by one of them to solely be applicable to white anglosaxons.
You got that right.
Agree
Isn't that the truth. But when you are in the desert dying of thirst, would you care which human race offers you a drink?
Before globalization, there was plenty of ridiculous hate amongst whites themselves:
Humans will always find something to differentiate themselves, in group vs. out group.
But with explicitly racist policies, humanity does not progress, but tend to settle matters in a more violent ways for finite resources. Liberal whites had the privilege to have diversity beneath them (maids, gardners, factory workers in china), but now even upper middle class people are turning defensive when their own livelihoods are threatened.
The poorer backward a country/state is, the more conservative culture is in regards to religion, cultural /ethnic unity, etc. The society needs to balance between liberalism/conservatism depending on the state of the nation.
Blame lies in leaders. They are the decision makers. Arrogant American leaders have been selling out Americans to the cost of their own populace. Now we are facing the results of their policies.
Ah, yes, where would be without an 'other' on which to hang the blame for all our foibles...some people even blame 'leaders' instead of themselves.
Which is the cart and which the horse, when it comes to (mono)culture and poverty? Always difficult to tell in these self-reinforcing loops.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout...
You know, my nieghbor's kid looks just like him.
Acts wierd.. comes and goes at all hours.. hangs with questionable characters.
I think I need to call Big Sis.
As we know, blond white male are the "new" terrorist.
I don't know if that guy pictured is guilty of the Oslo bombing, but he sure as hell should get 30 to life for that haircut.
If he were darker, he'd look kinda like Owebama.
Though the hair seems like that....
You meant, Obi-Wamma Kenobi didn't you?
LOL.
Was he recently laid off and denied unemployment?
No, he is a TEA party member.
That sportcoat over the suitcoat that he is wearing makes me think he is a double agent.
Rut Roh, here comes the brown shirts and the SS. I bet he is a tea bagger.
This is what terrorists look like folks:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017709-0D1F33FB000005...
Yep, a terrorists but not from Islam. It goes to show you, that a person who you don't look for or suspect can do major damage. Blame one type of people and eventually you are blind to your own that could do damage.
Terrorists are whatever Napolitano tells you they are. Lately, that's white males. According to the multimillion dollar advertising campaign.
i wonder if the dhs, is going to suffer from any budget cuts?
Not likely. They obviously hired the most competent person for the job to advance someone's agenda </sarcasm>
That was right out of Mein Kampf. He is a Nazi.
Seig?
Gotta admit those Nazis had the right idea, just the wrong people.
Pelousy.
"He is a Nazi."
He's a rabid ZioNutter. Why do you think he picked children boycotting Israel? Sheesh.
Hi, this is OT, but I wanted to make sure to h/t you for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek_D-5XwVrU
Got me very interested. Watch it happen myself all morning.
Thanks.
This was related to the summer cmap shootings, so writes NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=1&hp
My public education taught me that his beliefs were "right wing" so I guess his equivalent in America would be the Republican party.
I will obey.
No, your other right.
"...he was an ultra nationalist who hated Islam"
No i think he is a mentally challenged (retarted) person, and therefore should be pardoned and treated in a mental hospital.
how come he hates Islam and killed only the Non-Muslims, when Oslo has a pretty good number them.
I'd like to be retarted, but they busted all my DC hoors.
I guess we'll all have to lean a little more left now. Else were "white terrorists" or whatever the slang becomes.
I thought MSLSD was touting 'bend over'?
Tyler, maybe people assume it was a jihadist type perp because it usually is? Just like some assume any down day in silver is manipulation? Just sayin', don't get your panties in to much of a bind or you'll start sounding like an inept bureaucrat.
You should familiarize yourself with European left-wing groups, who have killed hundreds if not thousands of people. They are mostly inactive now, but it is very clear that Europeans have a long history of violence and terrorism. Furthermore, you could argue that the entire invasion of Iraq was a "terrorist" action. Just because it was performed by a State does not mean that it was justified. Do you have any idea how many civilians have been displaced, killed and tortured as a result of that war? And don't give me some BS about how it is just Muslims killing Muslims. Blackwater killed plenty of civilians and got away with it. We destroyed their infrastructure, forced them into poverty and destitution, and basically ruined a society. Those actions kill people. When you bomb a power station and a hospital cannot keep its patients alive as a result, that is terrorism. And those actions occurred in Iraq.
Watch yourself, you start to sound like an enemy of the state. Are you white?
Instead of addressing any of my points, because you're too retarded, you call me an Enemy of the State and ask me if I'm white? Dude, you are one stupid fucker.
That's because you aren't white which is why you are making this argument.
Dude, if you must know, I am German and Irish. In fact, you don't get much pastier than myself.
Nonetheless, your questions about the motive behind the Iraq war doesn't really address my concern and reason for posting, which is...are you really surprised that people in the USA associate terrorism with jihadist type activity? I don't know about you, but on my list of outrage, this topic doesn't make the top 100.
Yeah, today an is a perfect example of why that is. All the mainstream media outlets, Reuters, CNN, BBC, The Guardian, the NY Times, they all jumped on the terrorist was a Muslim bandwagon before any facts were even out.
The mainstream media wants you to believe Muslims are the only terrorists in order to justify the U.S. wars that are performed. You are just one of the brainless masses that doesn't realize that wars in Iraq were fought for Israel, and pushed by a neo-conservative elite that has Jewish interests in mind, and a corporate elite that wants to make a shit-ton of money. The media is totally complicit in this brainwashing because guess what? They are owned by many of those same corporations. They have perfected the art of propaganda disguised as objective journalism so people like you (who obviously lack an even average IQ) just march lock-step with all of the other ignorant people that allow this to happen.
I lack an average IQ - what do you do for a living, douchebag? And you also start to sound like quite the anti-semite. Excuse me for "jumping to conculsions," fuhrer!
Well then, excuse me for saying you sound like a typical subversive rat, Shlomo.
how am i "subversive" and would you care to spell out your antisemetic beliefs?
there is ONE ethnic group which has a stranglehold on the MSM.
German and Irish count as white?
Usually is?
No in fact it usually isn't.
Terry McVeigh, Jared loughner....ect.
As soon as Tyler starts sounding too much like an inept bureaucrat for you, leave. Trust me when i say this, Tyler's panties will survive your departure.
You site two examples and then tell me it usually isn't?
Here's a few more than two:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_terrorist_attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_terrorism
Take a look at this list. Guess what, almost all those terrorist groups were made up of White Europeans.
The Red Brigades, all Italians
Revolutionary Cells, all Germans
Red Army Faction, all Germans
Real IRA, all Irish. This group is still active and two years ago gunned down three British police officers. A few months ago they set off a car bomb, killing an Irish police officer.
I could go on and on, but you're too damn brainwashed.
Brainwashed? I'm not the stupid motherfucker grouping people into "white" and "brown" or "assuming fucking white people are Christian vs dirty brown Mulsims", go fuck yourself fruitcake. Look at your own personal, circular interpretations and your own agenda before you try to call me out you pantywaste
Uhh, then why were you asking me if I was white? When I didn't initially answer, you said I was making my whole argument based around the fact that I wasn't white. When I eventually indicated that I was indeed white, then you start rambling about some other nonsense. So what is your point anyway? You just want to believe that Islam is inherently more violent than people of Christian backgrounds, because that fits your narrow-minded worldview. The evidence points to something much more complicated and nuanced, as a result, but you are incapable of complex thought.
Islam is inherently more violent than Christianity. There is nothing complex about it. Now, what's your agenda?
What is your agenda?
You're strollin up and down these boards champaign trolling.
What the fuck is your agenda?
Exactly, prejudice is always based on some past history.
picture of him and dead bodies: http://i53.tinypic.com/23r263t.jpg
You're gonna have to CSI-zoom that shit, man... there are an AWFUL lot of tall blond men in Norway. (When I was in Oslo, I felt like a midget - at 6'2" and 250lb I was not even in the fucking hunt).
here you go: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wSPANO5qmhk/SVQS2r9a5SI/AAAAAAAABjs/3fpc1Z4iOL...
Best response tonight.
I smell a big fat rat. Is this guy deranged? Sure. But why shoot down a bunch of kids in cold blood? How does this progress your "cause"? It just feels like a set up. I'm leaning to the false flag side; this just doesn't make sense but to make people who have pride in their sovereignty and want to protect their heritage become the neo-terrorists targets.
victim of childhood bullying?
The camp is also strongly socialist:
Utøya is owned by the political youth party Workers' Youth League (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking), which holds a summer camp there. The island was given as a commemorative gift during August 1950 by Oslo og Omegn faglige samorganisasjonen (Oslo Trade Union Confederation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ut%C3%B8ya
+1 AH . (I apologize for your initials)
Any chance the Norwegian Worker's Party (and its youth cadre) is pro-Palestinian?
This being a reasonable scandanavian country we can hope for reasoned security response.
DHS learn from this.
I'm sure that late on 9/11, someone in the UK, Germany, etc. said something similar about the US - something like "the US, with their strong tradition of democracy and the rule of law, will respond rationally and not lash out erratically, while turning into a police state internally."
Only if they were at a comedy club.
DHS already said that the white middle class were among the largest threats for terrorist attacks and national security. I am not kidding.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik
AndersBBreivik Anders B. Breivik
One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.17 Jul
this guy seems smart, but sounds like he just snapped. maybe one of those people who channel anger and hate until they explode? maybe his wife ran off with a muslim? sister got raped by a muslim?
http://www.bestgore.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/anders-behring-breivi...
I win, I said "right-wing, anti-EU "isolationist".
Could these mother fuckers be any more transparent. There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Europe's McVeigh.
Fits the big sis profile a little too closely to me. I smell a false flag. A CIA asset.
Any young person intelligent enough to know they don't have a future is dangerous right now. That's not meant as an insult, that's just the reality of the situation. Many of them are going to come unhinged and some of them are going to do some stupid things.
A lot of blame falls on the previous generations who have led us to this point.
McVeigh lives!
(No death penalty in Norway.)
laws can change.
also jailed in northern Norway perhaps can be worse than death.
Depends upon the size of the muslim rapist dick slappin' your sorry white ass.
Yes, because prison rape is hilarious!
Jack ass.
Yes it is, especially when ten muslims are dick slappin' pesamystik's asshole all at once.
I saw a slide show of a new Norwegian prison and it looked nicer than most hotels I've stayed in. And I've stayed in a lot of four-star hotels.
don't be fooled by defective IKEA returns donated. people who go to prison hate like nice things and nice people because in their world view, violence is good. acting tough is cool.
High-security Ringerike jail near Oslo offered the classes to eight inmates on a trial basis earlier this year.
Prison warden Sigbjoern Hagen said some of the inmates became more irritable and agitated and had trouble sleeping."
http://www.fitbomb.com/2010/02/yoga-pisses-off-convicts.html
Ding, ding, ding.
Any substantive critiscm of the buregoning totalitarian nightmare that is the EU will be silenced by invoking the name Breivik.
Same old fucking playbook.
A stopped clock is right sometimes too but unless you want to put your head up your ass so you don't have to believe your lying eyes, 99% of these kind of incidents are perpetrated by people of the Muslim faith.
Its like the DC sniper, profilers said he was probably white but turned out they were black. Sometimes your assumptions are wrong but most of the time they aren't... unless you are pushing an agenda instead of looking at the facts.
Do you know that Constable Kerr was recently killed in Northern Ireland by an IRA bomb? in fact, if you look at the whole history of The Troubles, you won't find a single Muslim involved.
I'll also refer to my post above:
"You should familiarize yourself with European left-wing groups, who have killed hundreds if not thousands of people. They are mostly inactive now, but it is very clear that Europeans have a long history of violence and terrorism. Furthermore, you could argue that the entire invasion of Iraq was a "terrorist" action. Just because it was performed by a State does not mean that it was justified. Do you have any idea how many civilians have been displaced, killed and tortured as a result of that war? And don't give me some BS about how it is just Muslims killing Muslims. Blackwater killed plenty of civilians and got away with it. We destroyed their infrastructure, forced them into poverty and destitution, and basically ruined a society. Those actions kill people. When you bomb a power station and a hospital cannot keep its patients alive as a result, that is terrorism. And those actions occurred in Iraq."
American drone attacks have also been known to kill numerous civilians. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/17/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-wa...
There is no doubt that if some drone pilot was attacked on U.S. soil, it would be labeled "terrorism." And yet, the fact that he operating an unmanned aircraft thousands of miles away...I find that just as cowardly as many actions that "Jihadis" take, if not more so.
When you're clinging by your fingernails to your over indebted empire, sometimes you have to break a few eggs.
Any who, this should fill the pages of the MSM long enough to take everyone's mind off the financial troubles of a little country known as Euroland.
Euro debt bomb? We don't need no stinkin' debt bomb.
Thank you for bringing us back on topic and away from agent provacateurs.
Nobody kills more muslims than muslims, and nobody kills more non-muslims than muslims.
Saddam killed 30K of his own people every year. Not any more. We've already saved or created 300K lives by getting rid of him for them.
Northern arab Sudanese killed 1 million black non-muslims during the Darfur holocaust --- raped, tortured, and took human slaves of others. Not any more, the South just split off and formed their own country.
If you're gonna use your dead people as human shields you better make sure they're not still clutching to an IED.
You talk about violence though as if it is intrinsic to Muslims and something foreign to Europeans. Lets not forget World War I and II, where Whites killed each other by the millions. Anything Saddam ever did to the Kurds pales in comparison. Furthermore, look at what the Russians did to each other. In case you were wondering, those wars didn't happen too long ago. It's not like White people in the last 50 years have evolved into this peaceful people, that's just not possible. The only thing that has kept the peace has been a massive influx in entertainment and credit for the poors. Violence is intrinsic to all humans.
The U.S. is estimated to have killed over a million Vietnamese civilians with aerial bombing during the Vietnam War.
To say we saved 300k civilians is ridiculous. I suggest you research those numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
your comment that "We've already saved or created 300K lives by getting rid of him for them." is demented on so many levels that it's hilariously delusional.
The moral jujitsu you have exhibited is astounding.
sadly he(they-the voices and all) are not joking in this thread.
they really are demented clowns , but hell the world needs laughs even from assholes.
no matter how delusional you are you can't keep up with this type of assclown.
Actually, those numbers are the truth -- Saddam and his sons even had torture and rape rooms for their own sadistic pleasure. There were mass graves. Look what the Japanese did in Nanking. The only thing that kills more people than a war against these types is not fighting one.
Advocating for these despots and their torture on humanitarian grounds on your part is like saying we rudely interrupted cookie baking at Auschwitz with our bombs.
Funny was my comparison to the way Obama hilariously saved or created millions of jobs. For your pleasure.
truth is = NOW THAT'S FuckiN FUNNY.
When clowns spew the truthiness b.s. you know they have been
brainwashed beyond any redemption and their occasional lapse into
a kind of reality is a stumble.
You,I,obamao got no right regardless of our truth , if they want that
bastard r some other gone then let them do it.
truth ---- what a ballbuster.
truth is if you are lookin for some butt and plyers fun , well uncle sammy
has got a bunch of them for your pleasure. Now you gonna take those out
even if takes a few 100K of your fellow perverts , heh sunny?
Praise JEEEEEEEEZUS we been saved , thank you massah thank you.
Now where's that KY?
Sounds like you're pushing an agenda instead of looking for facts.
No motive has been released yet. Though he shot up a polticial party's youth camp. He obviously has a dislike for the present government.
He seems to be upset about immigration to Norway by Middle Eastern folks. Perhaps this motivated his attacks. Mental illness seems likely. A relatively intelligent but mentally unstable type can be very dangerous when latching onto a cause.
The first thought that this was a muslim terror attack is logical as this is what has been programed into people over the last decade or more. This seems to be the type of "one off" lone wolf attack that US homeland security warned about. Be it muslim anti government terror or right wing anti government terror, it is terror. A lot of people died for no good reason and in no good cause. I feel sorry for those families who lost their children or older family members.
"He seems to be upset about immigration"
Oh reallly, Jackieeee? Why are you pretending this is a trivial non issue that only a few crazies care about? Nobody in Norway, or for that matter any country in the world, wishes their people to become a mixed up sack of garbage with aliens from another continent. Did you know that 30% of the babies born in England last year were from another continent, Jackieeee? This is absolutely out of control. It's perfectly rational for a person to want his people to remain as they are, ethnically unchanged, for no other reason then that's how we are and that's how we're staying.
Islam is not a religion; it is a system of Goobermint. When will Sheeple wake up.
religion is false hope; it is a system of control more powerful than ever changing systems of goobermint. There is no God, no heaven. You die and that's it. Your life is more valuable than being a serf to Kings, Politicians, Fatcats, and High Priests. Be your own master of your own life. However, religion is used to keep you believing that one day you will make it.
When will sheeple wake up.
There is no God, no heaven, no evil anti-christ?
Jeeze, then what in the hell am I doing here.
trolling?
Al Quran
And they say: "When we are bones and fragments (destroyed), should we really be resurrected (to be) a new creation?" (49) Say (O Muhammad SAW) "Be you stones or iron," (50) "Or some created thing that is yet greater (or harder) in your breasts (thoughts to be resurrected, even then you shall be resurrected)" Then, they will say: "Who shall bring us back (to life)?" Say: "He Who created you first!" Then, they will shake their heads at you and say: "When will that be ?" Say: "Perhaps it is near!" (51) On the Day when He will call you, and you will answer (His Call) with (words of) His Praise and Obedience, and you will think that you have stayed (in this world) but a little while! (52)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu2DiqpuBdE
Pro Infidel Frisbe Bitch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWo3ByemG_w
Typical arrogance from the ignorant class.
So if somebody call these "infidels", ignorant @------s, they will get it print on their T-shirts and wear it in public and be proud of it.
name an ism that isn't?
Have you always been asleep?
Why could not he have done that to the national real estate association, the automobile dealers of america association, or even the sec?
Google "Martin Bryant".
Still, I doubt there are many tears in Tel Aviv for the Norwegian dead - after all, Norway is set to recognise Palestine, blocked Israeli firms from investing in its oil and gas fields 'for ethical reasons', is set to pull out of the NATO child-killing spree in Libya... so obviously Al-Qaeda would be pissed off with Norway, right?
I wonder what the internets would have said immediately after the Rainbow Warrior sank in 1985? They would have looked around for someone brown to blame.
And - frankly - fuck the Daily Mail for putting up a photo fo the guy in Masonic regalia. His Freemasonic affiliation would - like mine - have REDUCED the likelihood that he became radicalised; Freemasons in the regular observances (his was a 'bog standard' Blue Lodge) are prohibited from acting against the government. {As an aside, that's a fucking ludicrous rule, and one that led to me moving to a non-Blue lodge}
Yes, and Christians are prohibited from killing humans....
gh
This really is too many coincidences. Especially how Homeland Security has been pushing the white middle class terrorist idea lately. This is just too convenient an excuse for yet another clampdown. Masons are controlled by the Illuminati (a group of elite who view themselves as a master race and posses tremendous power and want even more). You haven't made it high enough to find that out yet. The Illuminati will probably kill you too when they're control becomes absolute, and you're no longer useful to them. Don't let them enslave you too.
it's a crime scene. should be treated like one. who benefits from this crime?
politicians who denounce terror but at the same time want to increase spending on "defense"
i hear the sounds of bells and whistles. you, AH, are Sherlock.
So many choices! Is the Tunga supposed to hate the Muslims? Or the American Patriot/Free state Sovereign? And now the "Ultra nationalist"? Hey that's UN for short.
Tunga will take UN for 500 please.
another piker. the usa mic kills ten times that many women and children per year. CONgreff and wall street are the big boy terrorists on the block.
The ATF probably gave him the bomb, so we could track where bombs go and then move by executive order to ban buying more than 2 bombs in a five day period if you have blond hair.
Hopefully the Norwegians are not as stupid as the Ameritards who easily fall for the lone gunman mythology.
Nice jacket!
Norway prepare to be groped.
My heartfelt sympathy goes out to the people of Norway and the victims of this horrible act.
Nationalist in a country that is Crowned republic Unitary parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy ???
Harald V of NorwayNothin' else to talk about. We're safe.