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Overhaul or Tweak Pensions?

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Submitted by Leo Kolivakis, publisher of Pension Pulse.

Reporting for the NYT, Mary Williams Walsh asks, An Overhaul or a Tweak for Pensions:

After more than three years of deliberations, the board that sets the accounting rules for state and city governments is still far away from issuing a new standard for public pension funds.

What may seem like tedious labors over technical matters can have a large impact on public employees, taxpayers and investors. Many municipalities around the country are grappling with serious shortfalls in their pension funds caused by the recession and other woes.

 

Since the deliberations began, San Diego’s finances have been rocked by a pension scandal; Vallejo, Calif., has filed for bankruptcy after promising costly benefits; and New Jersey has warned that it lacks the cash to comply with its actuary’s instructions.

 

The panel, the Governmental Accounting Standards Board, heard impassioned testimony on Wednesday on the need to make public pension numbers more straightforward, more closely mirroring the pension accounting for corporations. But proponents of an overhaul were countered at every step by state officials and others who testified that broad changes were unnecessary and would disrupt budgets by introducing market volatility.

 

The board, an independent nonprofit organization that sets the accounting standards for governments, has said that the next step will be the publication, by next May, of a “due process document” to offer possible changes in the rules. That will engender a new round of public comment and revisions, and eventually a new pension accounting standard. The process is expected to take several more years.

 

“I have concerns that these efforts may, in fact, be too late,” one speaker, Diann Shipione, told the board. She said that the existing accounting rules were too loose, allowing “pension mischief” to go on for many years.

 

“As a result of the fuzziness and imprecision,” she said, “we now have many large systems that are essentially insolvent.”

 

Ms. Shipione, a former trustee of the San Diego city pension fund, eventually became a whistle-blower, insisting that the fund’s financial reporting was false, constituting securities fraud. After a long legal battle, the Securities and Exchange Commission agreed with her. She is now earning a master’s degree in public administration at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.

 

Ms. Shipione told the accounting board that she thought revisions were needed to make it easier to see when states and cities were falling behind on their pension contributions, which she hoped would prompt them to pump more money into the plans.

 

But some members of the board took issue with her goals. William W. Holder, one member of the accounting board, told Ms. Shipione that the board’s duty was to write rules that produced accurate and informative financial reports — not to promote desirable activities like funding pension plans more robustly.

 

“We try to avoid bias in setting accounting standards,” he said. “What we don’t try to do is develop some preconceived notion of what that behavior would be, and then write a standard that would encourage it.”

 

In the corporate world, the Financial Accounting Standards Board writes the rules for pension disclosures. It also seeks to avoid bias, and also works at a slow, deliberative pace.

 

But FASB has a great deal more power and independence than its governmental cousin. Its rules are enforced by the S.E.C., and it was given an independent funding source in the post-Enron accounting reforms. The corporate pension accounting rules came under harsh criticism at the beginning of this decade, and the FASB has already issued some revisions. Others are still in the works.

 

The governmental board, by contrast, must still raise its own money. And because no government agency enforces its policies, it must issue rules that states and municipalities will adopt voluntarily. Six of its seven members work on a part-time basis.

 

Others who spoke on Wednesday sought to assure the accounting board that its existing rules were sound. They acknowledged that some governments had had pension debacles in the last few years but said that was because they did not follow the rules.

 

Robert A. Wylie, executive director of the South Dakota Retirement System, said that pension woes were largely absent in his state and that his plan had a well-established funding policy.

 

Mr. Wylie said South Dakota had the ability to reduce promised benefits when times were tight, something forbidden by statute or constitution in many other states. Because of this flexibility, he said, South Dakota had always been able to keep its contributions in line with its benefits. For a state like South Dakota, he said, the existing pension rules were “very workable.”

 

“Major changes may add to what would be, in our mind, confusion,” he said.

Questions posed by the board members suggested they were leaning toward making narrow changes in the existing rules, like shortening amortization schedules or reducing the number of actuarial methods that plans may use. They did not seem eager to grapple with the question of which discount rate to use to measure public pension obligations — the biggest issue in the minds of critics of the current rules.

 

A recent study published by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the discount rates now in use were masking a pension shortfall of $1.2 trillion at the state level.

 

The questions from the board members also suggested that they were interested in making public pension funds more comparable to each other. The current accounting rules allow so much flexibility that comparisons can be unfair.

 

Jeremy Gold, an actuary and economist who testified at Wednesday’s meeting, said he expected that when the new standard was finally issued, it would improve the comparability of pension plans.

 

“The center of gravity is still in favor of sharper pencils, rather than a whole new way of doing things,” said Mr. Gold, who called for radical changes. “This will make Texas, California and New Jersey all comparable while they go to hell in a handbasket.”

The accounting board will reconvene in Washington on Friday for additional testimony.

Some comments on this story. First, I commend Ms. Shipione for stepping forth to speak out at what was going on at San Diego's city pension fund. Last September, I wrote about the need to defend whistleblowers, something which is still not being taken seriously at public pension funds.

San Diego's Retirement System was notorious for taking huge risks in all sorts of alternative investments and lost big money in the Amaranth gamble. But city pension funds across North America are in dire straights and instead of consolidating them into the state funds to save costs, powerful interests want to keep the status quo. When it comes to municipal pension plans, Pennsylvania is king:

Pennsylvania has four times more pension funds than any other state, and more than one-fourth of all the municipal pension plans in the country, according to the Public Employee Retirement Commission, an agency that advises the Legislature on pension issues and oversees the soundness of local plans. The number of local plans is growing by about 30 a year.

 

Most of the 3,100 retirement systems, for police, firefighters or nonuniformed workers, are small. That's costly for members and taxpayers. Of 2,462 that reported administrative expenses, the cost was $36 million, or $509 annually per member.

The cost per member is $1,519 for administrative expenses for plans with fewer than 10 members, the retirement commission says, and 67 percent of Pennsylvania's local pension systems are that small.

The USA Today asks whether campaign contributions help win pension fund deals:

More than two dozen firms that have surfaced in a broad corruption investigation of public pension funds gave at least $1.97 million in campaign contributions to officials with potential influence over the funds' investments, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

The givers included private-equity giants such as the Blackstone Group, the Carlyle Group and the Quadrangle Group, the firm founded by Steven Rattner, who in July resigned as the White House point man for the auto industry rescue. The contributions are legal, and the firms haven't been accused of wrongdoing related to the giving.

[Note: They should ban these contributions once and for all! Read John Bury's comment, Rules By and For Insiders - Public Pension Plans.]

The Government Accountability Office – the investigative arm of Congress – has laid some of the groundwork for pension reform by publishing a study of the “retirement risks” posed by private pension plans in the United States:

“Many experts agree reforms are needed to make the U.S. private pension system more effective in protecting workers from risks to accumulating and preserving adequate savings for retirement,” says the GAO report. “If no action is taken, a considerable number of Americans face the prospect of a reduced standard of living in retirement."

The July 2009 report is addressed to Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. Miller is an advocate of “retirement security.”

As part of its study, the GAO examined the pension systems of the Netherlands, Switzerland and the United Kingdom and found that private pensions in those countries “represent alternative approaches” that could “yield useful lessons for the U.S. experience.”

The GAO also examined four “key” domestic proposals to reform the U.S. private pension system – including a government-sponsored, mandatory system called the Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRA) plan.

Under this plan, the federal government (Social Security Administration) would establish and administer a system of retirement savings accounts – guaranteeing a specified rate of return on those accounts.

Currently, pension plans offered by private employers in the United States are voluntary and include tax incentives to encourage participation.

The problem

According to the GAO study, stock market losses and poor economic conditions have put many U.S. workers at risk of not having an adequate retirement income from their private pension plans. Older Americans are less confident in their ability to retire. “Even before the current economic recession, research indicated that pension benefits are likely to be inadequate for many Americans,” the GAO study said.

Pointing to national survey data, the GAO noted that about half of the U.S. workforce was not covered by a pension plan in 2008.
Workers covered by defined contribution plans -- such as 401(k)s and IRAs -- risk making inadequate contributions or earning poor investment returns, the study found, while workers with traditional employer-sponsored, defined-benefit plans risk future benefit losses due to a lack of portability if they change jobs.

Leakage (withdrawing money before retirement), high fees, and “the inappropriate drawdown of benefits in retirement” are other concerns, the GAO said.

Trade-offs

The GAO says its study focused on the Netherlands, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom because their private pension systems address many of the risks that U.S. workers face. Those systems also demonstrate “mandatory approaches can be used to increase coverage or contributions,” the GAO said.

But, as the GAO also noted, mandatory approaches – which have produced nearly universal coverage in the Netherlands and Switzerland -- also pose trade-offs. For example, in the Dutch and Swiss systems, sharing investment risk requires assets to be pooled and thus limits individual choice. And requiring annuities as a way for retirees to draw down their benefits limits people’s access to their assets.

Mandatory, government-run pension system here?

Of the four domestic proposals examined in the GAO report, only one is both mandatory and run by the government. Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (mentioned briefly above) would increase retirement savings by low- and middle-income households and provide a basic retirement income for workers, the GAO said.

Under GRA, both workers and employers would pay a mandatory minimum contribution of 2.5 percent each. Borrowing from the plan would be prohibited; and hardship withdrawals would be allowed only in case of disability.

Tax preferences for 401(k) plans and Individual Retirement Accounts would be replaced by a uniform $600 tax credit for all workers, regardless of income. State and local governments would have to notify the federal government of marriages and divorces so that contributions can be apportioned evenly between husbands and wives. State governments also would have to report who is receiving unemployment benefits to the Internal Revenue Service.

A centralized pension plan such as GRA would make “portability” easier and economies of scale would lower administrative costs, the GAO report said. But such a plan “may also be a costly and complex effort that requires new regulatory and oversight efforts. These costs could be passed on to workers, employers, and taxpayers in general.”

Three other domestic pension proposals examined by the GAO were more voluntary in nature. Two of those three were run by the private sector.

The GAO study concluded that no retirement system or pension proposal is perfect: “The challenge for Congress will be to balance the interests and responsibilities of workers, employers, and the government and find the most promising steps to help Americans achieve retirement security.”

Rep. Miller, to whom the GAO report is addressed, promised in October 2008 that his Labor and Education Committee would continue to “examine what measures may be needed to ensure a safe and secure retirement for workers, retirees and their families.”

At a House Education and Labor Committee hearing in February, Miller said it’s time for Congress to address “difficult questions about the state of our nation’s retirement system as a whole and look to see whether we need to create a retirement system that works for all Americans, not just the fortunate few.”

Over in the U.K., Dr. Ros Altman writes Get Real On Public Sector Pensions:

Today's Times suggests ministers are planning significant changes to council workers' pension arrangements – and probably to most other public sector pensions, too. Naturally, unions have reacted angrily, while taxpayer lobby groups welcome the proposals.

 

In my view, however, change is inevitable. With private sector final salary schemes across the country in deep deficit, employers are desperately looking for ways to reduce future pensions, or are closing schemes altogether. These economic realities cannot escape the public sector. The costs of these pension commitments have soared way beyond all previous expectations, as public sector employment levels and salaries have risen much faster than expected and workers are living ever longer.

 

Like almost all private sector schemes, local authority pension funds are in deficit (an estimated £60bn) as investment returns have not kept up with rising pension liabilities. Council tax increases alone cannot fund this shortfall, especially as the number of workers retiring will rise sharply in coming years. Already, about a quarter of some areas' council tax receipts is spent on pensions, and there is a limit to how far this can increase without jeopardising services or risking taxpayer revolts.

 

Ultimately, central government – that is, taxpayers across the country – will be forced to make up the difference between what councils can afford and the pension obligations they are committed to. But they already underwrite all other public sector pensions and, unlike local authority pensions, most public sector schemes are unfunded, which means absolutely no money has been set aside to pay the future pensions. Taxpayers in years to come will somehow have to find the money.

 

Government has not properly budgeted for this, having consistently tried to hide the true costs. When considering public sector pay, comparisons are generally made with the private sector, but the costs of pension accrual are not factored in, almost as if they do not exist. Of course pensions are paid many years hence, but the costs are nevertheless real.

 

A public sector pension is now probably worth about 30% extra salary, but public workers contribute well below 10% to their pensions, and sometimes nothing at all. Taxpayers have to make up all the difference. Also, unlike state pensions, there is no flexibility in these arrangements. When it comes to national insurance pensions, government can decide to change the parameters in order to control taxpayer costs. Indeed, national insurance pensions have been cut over the years, and pension ages will rise sharply, especially for women, as we are all living longer and healthier lives.

 

Public sector pensions cannot escape such realities forever, and the leaked proposals may herald a new round of reform. It is important to stress that any changes will not affect existing pensioners and will not reduce pensions that existing workers have already accrued.

 

However, unrealistic expectations will have to change, and we need transparency on the true costs of public sector pension commitments.

 

Workers are likely to have to either contribute much more each year or face the choice between working longer or receiving less pension in future.

 

Yes, of course public sector workers deserve a decent pension, but so do all pensioners. With such a low state pension, is it sustainable for good public sector pensions to be increasingly funded by taxpayers, who themselves have no such generous pension arrangements?

 

Public sector pensions should not be an alternative social welfare pension that is denied to, yet supported by, other taxpayers.

Finally, Pensions & Investments reports that Kennedy remembered for role in pension policy:

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., who died of brain cancer Tuesday night, played a leading role in shaping U.S. pension policy, including the Pension Protection Act of 2006, the largest single reform of the U.S. pension system since the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974.

 

Mr. Kennedy, chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, was active even through his final weeks, working on pension-related issues in Congress and with the Obama administration.

 

He was “known for attracting the best and brightest minds, so it (came) as no surprise that Kennedy staffers would be mentioned for any number of positions” for top pension-related posts in the Obama administration, Anthony Coley, a spokesman for Mr. Kennedy, said in a Nov. 10, 2008, Pensions & Investments story, underscoring Mr. Kennedy's influence on pension policy and legislation in his Senate career, stretching back to 1962.

 

“Sen. Kennedy was very involved in pension issues and always took a pragmatic approach,” James A. Klein, president of the corporate pension advocacy group American Benefits Council, said in an interview.

 

In regard to Mr. Kennedy's work last December on the Worker, Retiree and Employer Recovery Act of 2008, providing corporate pension funding relief from the market meltdown and economic downturn, Mr. Klein said, “Sen. Kennedy tried to address issues on funding that wouldn't unduly burden the system.”

 

While Mr. Kennedy was better known for his work on health care, education and civil rights, “on pension issues that were not in the headlines, he worked very collaboratively with his Republican colleagues,” Mr. Klein said.

 

Ted Godbout, manager-communications at the ERISA Industry Committee, another pension policy advocacy group, said in a statement, “While we did not always agree with Sen. Kennedy's approach to pension and retirement policy, he was a friend of ERIC's and we always respected and admired his leadership and willingness to work with both parties to find common ground. He truly will be missed.”

 

”Sen. Kennedy was a national treasure,” Amy Borrus, deputy director of the Council of Institutional Investors, said in a statement. “He was one of the most effective leaders in the Senate and a widely respected voice on pension issues.”

 

In May, concerning allegations that Charles E.F. Millard, a former PBGC director, was inappropriately involved with the hiring managers to invest $2.5 billion, Mr. Kennedy joined five other senators, Republicans as well as Democrats, to refer the case to the Department of Justice, according to a June 1 P&I report.

 

The landmark Pension Protection Act toughened corporate funding requirements to strengthen the financial condition of pension plans and encouraged automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans, furthering retirement security.

I was chatting with Diane Urquhart today and we both agreed that even though Senator Kennedy went through some personal tragedies and controversies, he was a once in a lifetime politician - a true national treasure. She told me that the Canadian House of Commons couldn't accomplish a fraction of what he has accomplished in over 50 years.

Indeed, Senator Ted Kennedy's legislative record speaks for itself. He championed many great causes that I hold dear to my heart, including the American Disabilities Act, to prevent discrimination against people with disabilities.

If Senator Kennedy were alive today, he would be spearheading the health care debate as well as the pension crisis. And he wouldn't be tweaking anything, but going for an overhaul of the entire system to ensure everyone retires in dignity and security.

Below, I leave you with one of his greatest speeches ever - his 1978 speech on health care. The Senate's last lion will be sorely missed by everyone. May he rest in peace and may we all remember him and fight for what is right to make our society a better one for all, not just for the privileged few.




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Sat, 08/29/2009 - 00:46 | Link to Comment mannfm11
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As much as there is talk about Kennedy bootlegging liquor, his real claim to fame was as a swindling stock operator who was hired to set up the SEC because he knew all the ways to steal money in stock schemes. In any case, not many of us care much for the eastern Wall Street establishment who like to rule from above.  On the contrary though, Senator Kennedy could have done something other than sit in the Senate serving his state and should get his due, like him or not.

As for the basis of this article, the pension system, Leo raises an important issue.  My feeling is that America's pensions have been looted by the entities that offer them and by the entities that run them, again Wall Street.  Private or public, health care or pensions, Wall Street is brought into the game.  The study I have done on pensions was during the last bear market where I had read that those running the pensions had bought into the 9% or higher return from stocks forever and set their funding up accordingly.  Massive rally or not, we are sitting at the same price in the SPX we had in February 1998, meaning for 10.5 years there has been nothing added to the funds save for dividends from stocks.  Of course, the greater the estimated return the less money has to be put in and should something excessive arise, as was the case in the late 1990's, you can take money out.  Sweet game isn't it. 

There isn't a sin getting paid more, maybe even more than you might be worth, as it allows more to join the upper crust. But, to be left a pauper after putting in a lifetime of work in a variety of outfits isn't totally Kosher.  I don't believe it was by chance that the public was led to own stocks while Wall Street and management were brought in to loot the companies that issued the stocks.  What else can explain the puny dividends being paid by the market that has been running sideways for 11 years now and has continually had a bid under it?  I am of the opinion that government programs over the past 40 years have been to aid and abet this process  and not prevent it.  This isn't the result of Reaganomics or Clintonomics, but the result of the entire system set up by Wilson and the Roosevelts and carried forward.  I can only dislike Kennedy knowing he was merely a rat amongst a very large number of rats.  Popular election of senators destroyed the institution and gave it over to multinationals. 

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/28/2009 - 22:33 | Link to Comment JR
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Contrary to what you say, many baby boomers have tasted the bitter fruit of hardship and disillusionment much of their lives.  And to rub salt in their wounds, the MSM is now misrepresenting them so the government won’t have to pay out the value of the Social Security and Medicare that they paid in all their working lives. At the same time, Bernanke is destroying the value of their pensions  and 401(k)s by devaluing their purchasing power.

Most baby boomers, those born between 1946 and 1964, have had to live on the paychecks of two wage earners.  Only a tiny percentage send their elderly parents to nursing homes. Many actually incur expenses from their elderly parents who increasingly are being forced into reverse mortgages just to stay in their homes.  And government policy is destroying what little inheritance boomers would have received from their parents.

Definitions used in 1985 to describe yuppies and yuffies illustrate the point that boomers have been exploited by our present financial system the same as everybody else.

Yuppies at the time were defined as 25- to 39-year-old baby boomers who lived in metropolitan areas, worked professional or managerial occupations, and earned at least $30,000 if living alone and $40,000 if married or living with someone else.  Using that definition, there were only four million yuppies in 1985—constituting just 5 percent of all baby boomers.

Yuffies were defined as baby boomers making less than $10,000 a year…a full 40 percent of the baby boom generation.  In 1985,according to Probe, yuffies were roughly eight times as numerous as yuppies.  In the 1990s the trend continued…

By 1983…a 30-year-old baby boomer needed to commit 44 percent of his income to meet the carrying charges on a median-priced house.  That same year, 65 percent of all first-time baby boomer homebuyers needed two paychecks to meet their monthly payments…

By the end of the 1970s, Fortune magazine estimated that baby boomers had effectively lost ten years’ income when compared with the earnings of the generation just preceding them… Changes in the corporate world throughout the 1980s exacerbated the problem.  “Downsizing,” “streamlining,” “merging” and "offshoring"… by major corporations eliminated whole levels of middle and upper management… Belt-tightening measures in the 1980s forced employees to be content with lower wages and smaller wage increases.

It was predicted salaries would “probably barely keep up with the cost of living and taxes…looking at very modest wage increases in the 1990s.

And, now, look at what Obama and his House of Democrats have in store for “boomers”; they’re getting old, and they rate only "minimum" healthcare on Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s grim Reaper Curve.

( Probe 1991) http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/disillus.html

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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Ah, yes, that favorite American pastime of labelling someone a liberal or a conservative. What a total waste. If I read Buckley, I am a conservative and if I read Galbraith, I am a liberal. I am neither but the fact is that the U.S. remains a plutocracy where BOTH Republicans and Democrats pander to the Wall Street elite. Very few politicians stick up for the regular hard working folks. I think that is why Senator Kennedy was so loved by his constituents. He spoke from the heart and he had the intellect to back up his arguments. He will be missed.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/28/2009 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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Points #8 & 9 show me you're another whack job who hates U.S. immigration policy. When did America start calling them "illegal immigrants" and not just immigrants? Fortune 500 companies need these "illegal immigrants" for jobs that are "beneath" the regular working stiff. Get real with your smear job and show some respect to a man who accomplished more in his life than most of you will ever accomplish in one hundred lifetimes.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 19:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:56 | Link to Comment joebren
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pass the coolaid.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:15 | Link to Comment OMFGjustINDEX
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ack my eyes are bleeding.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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taraxias,

These idiots are lightweights and I ignore them for the most part. By the way, all rich Americans are avoiding their fair share of taxes, not just its most famous family. -:)

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:19 | Link to Comment taraxias
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Leo, don't waste your breath with these idiots on here.

You hit the nail on the head, most Americans are hypocrites at best and completely brainwashed by their government with help from MSM..

If you thought that you'd find more intelligent posters on here than NC, think again. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Veteran
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fer real.  I really appreciate your work, Leo.  Thanks

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:15 | Link to Comment Jim B
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Real man of the people with family tax avoiding trusts extimated to be worth approx $500M

From the book "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," by Peter Schweizer

The Senior Senator from Massachusetts belongs to a family clan blessed with a net worth of nearly $500 million. Back in 1935, Joseph Patrick Kennedy, Sr., purchased Merchandise Mart, a Chicago real estate company, and according to Schweizer:

"...in 1947, he divided its ownership among family members and put it in the form of a trust.... [it] was not set up in their home state of Massachusetts, New York, Florida, or even California. This trust wasn't even domiciled in the United States. Instead the Kennedy trust was set up in ... Fiji."

 

Now why establish a trust on an island best known for headhunters? The Fiji-based trust allowed the Kennedy's to avoid "...the possibility of scrutiny by the IRS and federal authorities," according to Schweizer. Worse, the sanctimonious Kennedy clan that demands the rich pay their fair share has "an intricate web of trusts and private foundations" that helps the family avoid the IRS.

For example, the family paid only $134,330.90 in estate taxes despite a family fortune thought to be between $300 and $500 million at the time of Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.'s death in 1969. That was a tax bill of .04 percent, and Schweizer informs us that the figure is based on the lower end of the estimated family fortune.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:39 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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Look, I am sure that crime weighed heavily on his conscience for the rest of his life. Maybe it even propelled him to do what is right by fighting for the rights of the poor and marginalized. If it wasn't for him and a few others, the U.S. would swallow the crap of trickle down economics. As the great liberal economist John Kenneth Galbraith once said: "If you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through to feed the sparrows."

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 15:30 | Link to Comment KevinB
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Look, I am sure that crime weighed heavily on his conscience for the rest of his life

Oh, absolutely. Considering that he frequently asked friends if they'd heard any new "Chappaquidick" jokes, or that he named his dog "Splash", I'm sure it weighed heavily on the drunken lecher's sotted conscience.


Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:14 | Link to Comment OMFGjustINDEX
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So explain "TRICKLE-UP" Economics to me then genius...

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:03 | Link to Comment lookma
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The US has swallowed that crap and has an economy built on trickle down economics, and its not the tax policy of Arthur Laffer.

The US economy is predicated on trickle down economics - the FED making it rain on the fractional reserve banking system.

Not a good thing that Ted Kennedy claimed to fight the strawman tax policy while supporting the real trickle down economy based on the FED.

Please take your politics out of your economics, its crowded out truth in favor of bile propoganda.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:18 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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"Senator Kennedy made a huge mistake"

 

LOL

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:06 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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"Let he who has not murdered someone cast the first stone."

Spare me with your pontification. "W" murdered innocent children in Iraq and he got voted in twice and managed to screw up your economy before you all came to your collective senses and voted him out. Senator Kennedy made a huge mistake which he had to live with for the rest of his life, but at least he managed to introduce important legislation in the United States which protects the poor and marginalized. The U.S. is such a hyprocritical society in so many respects. You expect your politicians to be clean and perfect while your society degenerates all around you. What a joke!

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:53 | Link to Comment lookma
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Wow,

Importing the noensensical ad hominem politics that is the staus quo at "naked capitalism."

Go away if you are too feeble minded to recognize that the tired old left-right split is just a divide and conquer strategy.

Guess what - one can strongly dispprove of both Ted Kennedy and George W Bush. Hope that doesn't explode your close minded world in your tiny little head.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/28/2009 - 10:55 | Link to Comment PD Quig
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"Hello! Hello!!?"

Let he who has not murdered someone cast the first stone.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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I was waiting for all you right-wing lunatics at the "tip of the iceberg" to slam this post. BRING IT ON! Canadians politicans are sitting on their thumbs lately, bickering over who whether or not to have yet another election. We have universal healthcare, but so what? What have the politicians in Ottawa done for us lately?

And yes, Edward Kennedy would have been convicted of manslaughter if he was not a Kennedy, but the man repented and went on to do great deeds for his country. Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Leo the Lion.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:06 | Link to Comment KevinB
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What Canada do you live in?! In my Canada, the Greens and the NDP are eager for an election, the Bloc couldn't care, the Conservatives are ready but not itching. The only ditherers are the Liberals, who are hoping for some scandal or other act of God that might give them a chance at governing.

The Tories passed their own version of a stimulus bill that was far more pragmatic and populist than TARP - giving rebates to people for home renovations, for example. That employs tradespeople who were jobless with the collapse in construction, increases the purchases in locally made lumber and other construction materials, with the net result of a much higher economic multiplier than bailing out Goldman. Oh, and I'd note that none of the big Canadian banks received billions in bailouts, although the government did commit to supplying liquidity if needed, which it turned out not to be. The Tories' infrastructure bill has helped out projects across the country, except of course in Toronto, where "liberal" David Miller stamped his foot and pouted because the bill would not allow him to use Canadian funds to provide jobs for Siemens workers in Germany to build new subway cars for him. 

"What have you done for me lately?" is the lament of the spoiled and the petulant. Grow up, you twerp, or come to Richmond Hill, and I'll rearrange your features for you.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:05 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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 Great deeds for his country, my ass. 

He repented. My ass.

This "right wing lunatic" nailed it yesterday.

"Leon the lion" go f*** yourself.

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Where's Mary Jo Kopechne's Eulogy? by Henry Rollins August 27, 200910:57 am

Not Far Under The Surface. Let’s say I am driving myself and a passenger in my car at night. I accidentally drive off a bridge into the water below. I am able to get out of the submerged vehicle but for some reason, I am unable to free the passenger. I gather two friends, a relative and my lawyer and return to the scene. We are unable to rescue the person trapped in the car. Several hours later, myself nor the two others I took to the site have called the authorities. In fact, it’s two fishermen who find the car the next morning as even then, no one has been called to the scene. The car is removed from the water and it is determined that its occupant is dead. This tragic incident is made international news by my circumstances. I am very well known, a United States senator. My family is incredibly powerful. There are allegations that I had been drinking heavily hours up to the time I got into the vehicle with the passenger. I deny this for the rest of my life. That at no point did I make an attempt to call for rescue would probably be considered by many people to be outrageous and horrible, perhaps a crime that would carry a prison sentence. Can you imagine what the parents of the deceased would be going through when they found out that their 28-year-old daughter died alone in total darkness? I serve no time. Not inconvenienced by the burdensome obstacle of incarceration, I seek to maintain my elected position. I am successful and remain a senator for the next four decades. Would any deed I performed in that time, besides going to prison for the negligent homicide I committed all those years ago, be enough to wipe the slate clean? After my passing, would you fail to mention the incident and the death of this innocent person in reviewing the events of my long and lauded life? You wouldn't forget about her, would you? That would be negligent.


 

 

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"MARK IT ZERO, DUDE"

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 11:03 | Link to Comment They steal from...
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He did jack shit for this country like all fucking liberals.

 

And no, I am not right wing.  I didn't fucking vote for Bush.

 

Liberals suck ten times worse but they all need to go.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:07 | Link to Comment halo (not verified)
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Fri, 08/28/2009 - 10:18 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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OK, Ok, the lion sleeps tonight. Good riddance.

But, the pension issue is very big...SS is part of the package. NO ONE wanted to touch this for fear....

WE now have a major nation wide calamity. And no real attempt to address it innovatively and quick.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 10:11 | Link to Comment KevinB
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What a piece of drivel. The bloated drunk did more than the Canadian House of Commons? Let's just see..

In the last 50 years, Canada produced a national health care system (it has its flaws, no doubt, but since Canadian life expectancy at birth exceeds the US's, I hardly call it a disaster), a much simpler and more effective personal pension plan that's more flexible, portable, and effective than the hodgepodge of 401k, Roth, etc., an almost complete rewrite of our Constitution (also not without flaws, but a massive effort nonetheless, while the US during the same time frame has merely lowered the voting age and said Congress can't vote itself a raise), scrapped a manufacturing tax and implemented a national sales tax (which helped immensely in restoring fiscal balance), led the way in imposing sanctions against South Africa, and, of course, proposed and passed NAFTA before the US.

Oh, and no Canadian politician (which does not include separatist Rene Levesque) has ever even been suspected of driving drunk with a young woman who was not his wife, having an accident that resulted in her death, and then running away to sober up before reporting it to police. Some lion, some legacy.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 15:41 | Link to Comment debauch
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Yay Canada!

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