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Paul Farrell On The 4 Time Bombs That Would "Ignite A Wall Street Revolution"

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That the bankrupt US is living on borrowed time between various can kicking episodes is by now not news to anyone. Neither is it news that as long as the broader population finds brief distractions, such as the latest iPad app or the occasional Charlie Sheen scandal, which keep them busy in peak advertising hours, few if any will care about the sordid details of the unsustainable big picture. This ongoing apathy is starting to get to some market commentators most notably Paul Farrell of MarketWatch who summarizes events in the past 2 years as follows: " Admit it, we lost the opportunity. Jail a bank CEO and Wall Street will miraculously reform? You’re joking, right? Wall Street got away with a “legal” bank heist. Today the should-be/would-be inmates are running the prison. Wall Street’s corrupt banks have lost their moral compass … their insatiable greed has become a deadly virus destroying its host nation … their campaign billions buy senate votes, stop regulators’ actions, manipulate presidential decisions. Wall Street money controls voters, runs America, both parties. Yes, Wall Street is bankrupting America." But nobody cares. So what would make America care? Here are the four time-bombs which Farrell believes will be sufficient to blow up Wall Street.

From MarketWatch:

4 ticking time bombs that will ignite the Wall Street revolution

Yes, the rich live in a different world. And no, information won’t change them. But a revolution will. Revolutions build slowly over a long time. Then, suddenly, a critical mass, a flash point, something totally unexpected ignites the ticking bomb.

It happened recently in a remote Tunisian village. Mohamed Bouazizi, a 26-year-old college graduate, unable to pay bribes, set himself on fire to protest police confiscation of his unlicensed vegetable cart. That triggered a revolution. And his death rapidly led to the collapse of a 24-year dictatorship.

Today we have four hot time bombs, tick-ticking, soon to make history; any one can easily accelerate the revolution that’s already killing Wall Street from within.

1. Wealth gap: Super-Rich vs class wars, death of democracy

The gap: In one generation, America’s wealthiest 1% has exploded from 9% to 23% of America’s income, while middle-class income has stagnated. Even Buffett admits: “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and winning.”

But my rich friend tells the real story, of their social disconnect. The rich just don’t care. They live in a different world, live by a self-centered code lacking a moral compass. The public welfare is honored only if supported by tax benefits.

The wealth gap is widening and soon something unpredictable will ignite a Wall Street revolution.

2. Wall Street’s doomsday capitalism vs rule by anarchy

A key Supreme Court decision accelerated and codified Wall Street’s ability to use billions stolen from taxpayers to lobby Washington and solidify its power, all for its own self-interest, through campaign payola, senators’ votes, presidential access, manipulation of regulators, grabbing tax benefits, etc. And it’s every man and woman for themselves.

Don’t believe it? Know this, democracy is dead and you’re in denial. Wall Street CEOs and Forbes 400 billionaires are either engaged in a secret conspiracy, or a classic anarchy picking apart America, oblivious of the fact they are setting up the next big revolution.

3. Pentagon’s perpetual war machine vs America’s budget time bomb

The mathematics of our $75 trillion Social Security and Medicare deficits often seem insurmountable, but can be recalibrated. However, the war-loving mindset of America’s neocons — fueled by China’s military actions, the insatiable expansion of our military spending and a Pentagon prediction that global population growth — is putting more and more pressure on the world’s scarce resources, and will, in turn, increase global wars and the demand for more war spending, increasing the risk of sudden revolutions everywhere.

4. Global population explosion vs resources, jobs, better lifestyles

As the world population explodes from 7 billion to 10 billion in the next generation, the demand for more jobs and the pressure on scarce resources will increase, while expectations will fall as the ratio of haves to have-nots increases, making the world all around Wall Street a burning powder keg setting up a revolution.

Bottom line: Forget jailing Wall Street’s dictators. It’s naïve and too late. We missed that opportunity. But a revolution will do the trick, give us a second chance to jail the crooks.

Until then, remember, these four factors are building to a head, merging into a critical mass that will accelerate into a revolution and destroy Wall Street from within: The widening wealth gap, capitalism’s new rule-by-anarchy, the high cost of feeding the Pentagon’s costly war machine, and the huge global population explosion.

Perhaps Paul is right. One thing is certain: the ongoing divergence from economic equilibrium driven by a global central planning cartel which hopes to fill valuation holes will infinite money printing has been working so far, yet the simplest laws of physics say that eventually every equilibrium asserts itself. So far most guesses of how much longer this can continue have been wrong. And whereas we indeed had a chance to reassert a fair market value after the Lehman crash, we simply papered it over with another round of the same failed policies that resulted in a historic crash. What is truly interesting, and deserves a study in itself, is the seemingly endless ability of those in control to delude not only themselves but all those around them. Alas, this is primarily driven by the non-overlap of the various key cycles in the current world: from the hedge fund manager performance cycle of a few months at most, to the Wall Street bonus cycle of one year, to the political cycle of 4 years, and lastly, to the actual business cycle which lasts between 7-10 years, and the generational cycle of just over 20 years. As long as there are extensive conflicts of interest pushing and pulling all four of these in different directions, and as long as the Fed believes it can control them successfully, the kinds of time bombs that Farrell writes about are guaranteed.

h/t Steve

 

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Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:18 | 1015666 Mongo
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Revolution? Fuck that, people want the iPad 2... and iPhone version n+1

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:35 | 1015744 ZakuKommander
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iPad 2?  Old school.  I'm waiting with bated breath for the iPad 3.  Bother me then.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:42 | 1015777 Irwin Fletcher
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No joke. You need WiFi to videoconference? Whatev. 1024x768 is so VGA.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:46 | 1015796 Dr. Richard Head
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Quote from a dear family member of mine, "I'm glad we have the disctractions of Charlie Sheen.  I don't want to focus my attention on what's going on in the world.  I need some entertainment to distract me for some time."

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:58 | 1015865 alien-IQ
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Sounds like you're related to my brother-in-law.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:55 | 1016767 flacon
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Perhaps the culling will do some good for the rest of us.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 20:39 | 1017077 minosgal
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Quote from a dear family member of mine, on my comment that it might be a good idea to stock up the pantry because gas prices are rising: 'No. I'm not goint to buy extra. We don't eat much'

An that reaction was tame. Some close to me have actually gotten angry at suggestions that unemployment is worsening, real estate prices will not rise and cost of living will continue to increase.

Sheesh. Methinks it's more than just preference for distraction; more like a desperate denial.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:27 | 1018291 velobabe
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wait wait, the "bond" market is on fire! ~ d. bonderman

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:29 | 1016012 MarketTruth
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maxIpad2 yet it still no flash support? Yup, crippleware can be like that.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:01 | 1016565 dick cheneys ghost
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how the petroleum age will end...............

 

http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:44 | 1016713 Michael
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The general population of sheeple are going to be so disappointed when they find out the daily diet of green shoots and recovery they've been fed turn into green turds and depression.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:43 | 1015781 10kby2k
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O'bommy answered the possible NFL shut down question FIRST!  Shows where the USA's priorites are. Whats life without football?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:16 | 1015944 Vampyroteuthis ...
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In Texas, nonexistant.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 21:44 | 1017177 HardwoodAg
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Summer

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:46 | 1015804 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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You say you want an iPad2 well you know, we all want to change the world ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLqSwEqgxkQ

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:49 | 1015824 Hot Shakedown
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I believe that a targeted assassination of several key US figures will occur within 2 years- including the puppet poodle with no papers

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:03 | 1015888 Bartanist
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My guess is that eventually those fighting the US will realize that the American people do not like their hypocritical, lying and ethically bereft "so called" leaders either, be they in banking, industry or government and that the way to change the direction of a bully is to not attack other victims of bullies (such as the American people), but the bullies themselves.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:11 | 1016175 InconvenientCou...
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I believe you could find yourself on the back of a warlord's hummer manning a .50.

That ring around your torso won't be a halo.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:46 | 1016310 Ned Zeppelin
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birther nut

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:07 | 1016382 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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I was skeptical that there could be basis for birther truth, until I heard Karl Rove deny it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rAqhdL1BUs

Sat, 03/05/2011 - 19:38 | 1022574 goldfish1
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That's a tell.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1015869 Bartanist
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One wonders where the "good" people have gone? Are they all Muslims? (probably not... but least they have a moral and ethical code). But when an entire country is built through conquest, theft, fraud, murder, enslavement, assassination and other anti-social means it is no wonder that those who rise to the top mirror the complete lack of an ethical or moral compass ... other than as the false facade that is so prized by the ruling elitists.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:47 | 1016309 Psquared
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At the close of the Constitutional Convention, a woman reportedly asked Benjamin Frankin, "Mr. Franklin, what sort of government have you given us?" To which he replied, "a republic if you can keep it."

Looks like we didn't keep it.

I like Paul Farrell. He's been kicking this thing around since the beginning. We need more people like him to spread the word.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:47 | 1016964 RECISION
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Remember, Con-gress is a house of representitives.

They represent all that is good and great about the people.

Mmmm...OK - scratch that.

Their vices are the society's vices.

... and we will just leave "good" completely out of this discussion.

 

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:04 | 1016146 bankonzhongguo
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Until you see someone in the top 1% get cut down like a pig in the street nothing will change.  Sadly, these guys don't even walk in the street.  They have NOTHING in common with you or your little stack of gold hidden under your bed.  You forget that among "The Rich" even the wall street bonus brigade are mostly work-a-day guys.  "The Rich" are people that haven't gone shopping for food in decades or can't drive a car.  Their servants have servants - mostly smart lackey lawyers and lobbyists setting the Republic (or Libya) on fire.  Pull out Forbes richest person porn mag and then figure out where exactly those people live.  You can't.  You are a million miles from nowhere in changing anything.  Chances are there is not one high value target living in your city/state/country. 

And to the cubical based domestic terrorism slag hunting for "Amerika al-qaeda" on financial blogs - fuck you!  You are part of the problem.  The creep-fuck money worshipers consider you, your family and your dip-shit work no better than a pile of monkey shit at the bottom of your cage.  Get ready, because under Obamacare-Medicare austerity your mother is next.  And you make it happen day after day going forward.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:42 | 1016299 flattrader
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Damn, you ROCK!

>>>Chances are there is not one high value target living in your city/state/country.<<<

You are right.

But, there are a few zip codes where they frequently visit...Hmmm...

>>>Sadly, these guys don't even walk in the street.  They have NOTHING in common with you or your little stack of gold hidden under your bed. You forget that among "The Rich" even the wall street bonus brigade are mostly work-a-day guys.<<<

Yes, you are right again.

Still, a good way to send a message.

I still can't get over the fact that Ken Lay drove the streets of Texas with impunity while awaiting sentencing...a state where everybody and their Uncle's dog is armed.  Given how many lives, families and careers he destroyed he should have been Swiss cheese.

(And I do in fact believe he died of real coronary event while on vacation in CO and wasn't "heart attacked".)

Sat, 03/05/2011 - 19:40 | 1022577 goldfish1
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Lay slipped out the back, jack and he's living high on the hog looking over his shoulder.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:52 | 1016333 Psquared
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These people are cowards. At the first sign of trouble they will flee the sinking ship and move to their island estate or some S. American country. Let a mob run string-up a few of the lower level asshats or their lackeys and they will run and hide.

Once they are gone we can rebuild this country the way it was supposed to be.

And to whoever said it above, I hope the foreign people of the world who hate America realize that it is just a name. The great majority of people who happen to live here are decent, hard-working citizens who care about each other and the state of the world.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 08:07 | 1017931 Bitch Tits
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1.) "Let a mob run string-up a few of the lower level asshats or their lackeys and they will run and hide."

2.) "The great majority of people who happen to live here are decent, hard-working citizens who care about each other and the state of the world."

Hmmmm . . . mobs, asshats, lackeys, string 'em up?

So we care about each other but not the banksters or pols or wealthy, right? They are the bad guys.

I think there are small rules broken and large rules broken, and the larger the rule broken, the better the pay-off. Which explains our wealthy. They are us, with bigger balls and more influential friends in higher places. Same, same.

 

Sat, 03/05/2011 - 20:16 | 1022632 goldfish1
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Hey tits,

Same/same? Good rationalization. Just keep deluding yourself about your ethics and conscience and maybe, just maybe, one day you'll rise to become one of the smaller balled, mediocre-friended lower level lackey sell-outs.

You know, the ones who are doing the dirty work for the big pricks who are running this country and it's people into the ground.

It's a mistake to lump ethical, hardworking, productive people into that lot.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:14 | 1016405 A Texan
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"Until you see someone in the top 1% get cut down like a pig in the street nothing will change.  Sadly, these guys don't even walk in the street.  They have NOTHING in common with you or your little stack of gold hidden under your bed.  You forget that among "The Rich" even the wall street bonus brigade are mostly work-a-day guys.  "The Rich" are people that haven't gone shopping for food in decades or can't drive a car."

 

The top 1%?  That's a lot of people - probably in the neighborhood of 1.5 million households.  Listen to what Gordon Gecko said about them in the original Wall Steet:

 

"Wake up, will ya pal? If you're not inside, you're outside, OK? And I'm not talking a $400,000 a year working Wall Street stiff flying first class and being comfortable, I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars buddy. A player, or nothing. Now you had what it took to get into my office; The real question is whether you got what it takes to stay."

 

The point is that "rich" in the sense of being rich enough to control the levers of society is only for the top 1/10 of 1% of that 1% - 1,500 or so families, people worth north of $250 million, people that run companies and real estate empires and banks.  Most of the rest of the top 1% is just along for the ride, they are the enablers for the true masters.

Their world will be rocked when a few of THEM get gunned down in the street, and the only time you'll find them doing that is when they're going to a board meeting, a prestigious event or to testify in Congress.  Otherwise, forget it, they don't do their own shopping, can't drive a car (except those that really can, and they have Ferraris, Mazeratis or top-end Porches), etc.

 

Oh, and here's what Gordo says about our richest 1% in 1987:

 

"The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It's bullshit. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it. You've got that killer instinct. Stick around pal, I've still got a lot to teach you." [the highlighted group automatically doesn't run things - their capital enables others].

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 21:14 | 1017132 steadysteve
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You can ,however ,find them on their yachts. Those of us who work in that particular location will wait until they use this most private of locations to flee the coming unrest. Then one night they will just disappear over the side....

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:45 | 1016304 tempo
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The top 1% will be long gone on their lear jets to their armed secret island homes before  the poop hits the fan and the rest of us will be left to fight for a few crumbs of bread.  I am glad I am old and will not see the collaspe of America.  I would not want to be young with the crap we left for them.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:15 | 1016407 reader2010
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Fuck that! They need to tweet or do facebook with that fuckin pad.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:10 | 1016597 covert
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I wanna live in TRON. divide and conquor and rule. it's what all power trippers try to do.

http://covert2.wordpress.com

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:49 | 1016742 prophet_banker
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reminds me of what Jim had to say, people love the chains that bind freedom:

 

How can I set free anyone who doesn't have the guts to stand up alone and declare his own freedom? I think it's a lie ?' people claim they want to be free ?' everybody insists that freedom is what they want the most, the most sacred and precious thing a man can possess. But that's bullshit! People are terrified to be set free ?' they hold on to their chains. They fight anyone who tries to break those chains. It's their security…How can they expect me or anyone else to set them free if they don't really want to be free?
- Jim Morrison

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:20 | 1015670 Oh regional Indian
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The four horsemen of the Oppocalypso.

The perfect storm.

Riders on it too. each of those is already underway, overtly or covertly.

Change we will believe in is finally upon us.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/straykitty-wrote-in-after-a-while/

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:35 | 1016042 jimijon
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Remember that apocalypse comes from a greek root meaning unveiling. We are now experiencing this. People are seeing that all their leaders, be they religious, corporate, or political are all totally corrupted. And, of course this has all been prophesied. 

cheers

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:06 | 1016378 Psquared
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^^^ +1000.

I wonder if all the unrest in the Middle East is a sign that the unveiling is about to take place? I think it is safe to say that God is not pleased.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:51 | 1016752 prophet_banker
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the emperor wears no cloths; only wish that = people do something about it.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:21 | 1015674 MayIMommaDogFac...
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their insatiable greed has become a deadly virus destroying its host nation

History tells us that this force will destoy everything.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:34 | 1015722 Village Idiot
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WALL STREET LOCUSTS.  Incidentally, Wikipedia suggests they may taste like chicken...

 

"Locusts are an edible insect and are considered a delicacy in some countries and in history"

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:43 | 1015785 BobPaulson
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Well, it has only brought down every other empire in history. But this time is different. 

Actually it really may be different since this time there may be few places to hide from the collapse. Asimov's Foundation comes to mind.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:43 | 1016064 SilverBaron
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Great books.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:20 | 1015966 Zero Govt
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they (Big Govt and Big Corps) will rape everything they touch ...don't be a victim, collect your assets out of their sphere of influence ...just don't let the Vampire Squid be able to suck you dry 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:01 | 1016357 Jasper M
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Well, if it destroyed Everything, there'd be no history of it, now, would there?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:52 | 1016757 prophet_banker
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yup, parasite polemic is quite fitting for the top 1%

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:21 | 1015677 d00daa
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BTFD

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:26 | 1015706 10kby2k
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Always!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:22 | 1015678 Bastiat
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NP.  The Pentagon is on it! 

In an interview with The Times, Mr. Freeman said his report provided enough theoretical evidence for an economic warfare attack that further forensic study was warranted.

“The new battle space is the economy,” he said. “We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on weapons systems each year. But a relatively small amount of money focused against our financial markets through leveraged derivatives or cyber efforts can result in trillions of dollars in losses. And, the perpetrators can remain undiscovered.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/28/financial-terrorism-suspected-in-08-economic-crash/

"Undiscovered perps!!"   Maybe he should watch "Inside Job?"  The DVD will be released on March 8th and the Pentagon should be able to get a copy for $5K thru a contractor.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:57 | 1016772 prophet_banker
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regulators are in on the ponzi scheme cover up, DTCC, DEPOSITORY TRUST AN CLEARING CORPORATIONS KNOW ALL ABOUT THE FRAUDULANT PHANTOM SHARES, NAKED SHORT SELLING FRAUD, yet they refuse to prosecute, same old gang, PRIMARY DEALERS

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:21 | 1015680 Cognitive Dissonance
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So what are we going to do about it?

The buck (figuratively speaking) stops here.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:26 | 1015701 Panafrican Funk...
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Somebody with a non-trivial amount of money has to be willing to lose that money in order to start a crash cascade.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:37 | 1015755 Mad Max
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Be creative.  There must be a way to do it with a derivative, and actually profit (nominally, at least - how are you going to take those profits?) from crashing the market.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:42 | 1016059 johnQpublic
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God created man

 

Samuel Colt made them equal...

 

get the lead out, and let 'em know how you truly feel

everything else is just so much worthless talk

led zep insiration song "no quarter"

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:22 | 1016642 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Buy and sacrafice a few gold bars by filling them with tungsten and claiming they came from a bullion bank.   Give drudge the scoop.  That should put enough question into everything to bring it down.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:59 | 1016779 prophet_banker
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RIGHT, 50 billion will buy all of the above ground gold in the world that isn't owned by central banks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   which local municapility PENSION FUND WILL CALL THEIR BLUFF, and try to execute that order!!!!buy gold

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:32 | 1015731 nevadan
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Find a survivable place for you and yours, then try to survive.  We are past the point of no return now.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:35 | 1015741 carbonmutant
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You trying to start something?...lol

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:16 | 1016200 RockyRacoon
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CD has an itchy trigger finger and a stirring in his loins.   Were I a banker I'd be looking over my shoulder.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:28 | 1016248 velobabe
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rocky, do you really think killing the man, will kill the sin?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:16 | 1016410 Psquared
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No, one set of masters will simply be replaced by another. Power always corrupts - that is the way of the world - the sin of Adam. The answer is to replace this world with a new one that is incorruptible. That is what the apocalypse will bring. Not just the unveiling of evil, but the Revelation of God when he transforms this world.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:16 | 1016613 RockyRacoon
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She wasn't askin' you, Sparky.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:24 | 1016647 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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God isn't real pass it on.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:14 | 1016610 RockyRacoon
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I was referring to CD's comment rather than putting forth my own solution.  (I'm best at riding other coattails.)   It might not kill the sin but it sure takes away the sinner!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:55 | 1016765 Calmyourself
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That is an honest answer.  The world needs counterpunchers too Rocky!

Financial Sinners can be taught with the correct application of force.  Instead of shooting them an implantable tone generator that creates a constant buzz in their ear night and day and changes pitch, frequency and volume randomly should do it.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:44 | 1016711 saulysw
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Velo, it's not so much about killing the sin, as containing it. The rule of law used to do that, but clearly this social mechanism has failed. The is no fear at all in the hearts of those doing these massive crimes now, and as pointed above there is a reality disconnect. Some lead buried deep in a high profile banker, such as Blankcheque, might just be the shock needed to get the message across to the rest and stop the blatant pillaging. This is hypothetically speaking, of course, I'm not advocating violence. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:14 | 1016838 Fuckin Floyd
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Your  so nice.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:24 | 1016867 saulysw
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At this point, social unrest seems inevitable.

As Celente says : "When people lose everything and they have nothing left to lose, they lose it."

(NB : "Lose", not "loose". Also, it's "you're", not "your"...pet peeves of mine...)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:13 | 1016401 Arrowflinger
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RR, if this were true, I would be nervous about risks to my backside.

Et screw, Brutus?

 

 

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:38 | 1015758 alien-IQ
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notice how nations in the throws of a revolution always shut down the internet but never shut down the TV? that should tell us something: Turn off the idiot box! (TV).

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:03 | 1016570 Mesquite
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Interesting observation...

Thanks..

Disclosure: I recognised TV's societal hazard

around 50 years.ago...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:23 | 1016869 gmj
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I got rid of my TV in 1980.  If I'm in a motel room, I'll take a peek sometimes.  It makes me shudder.  It is the ultimate conditioning device.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:45 | 1015791 rookie
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Here's my list . . . feel free to improve upon:

 

- stop monetizing the debt

- break-up the TBTF

- enact Simpson/Bowles budget deficit plan immediately in its most aggressive form

- raise capital standards for banks

- reenact glass steagall b/t commercial and investment banking

- criminal forensic audits/prosecutions for double pledging of mbs

- real derivative reform 

- make sovereign cds illegal

- get solar panels on every roof and electric cars in every driveway (made in america) - get the factories cranking making these

- if china won't float the yuan, stop buying things we don't need from china 

 

Take the pain now and rebuild and do not kick these problems down the road to our children! 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:16 | 1015947 Weisbrot
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20% import tariffs on all chinese made items would be a nice place to start

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:24 | 1015986 TooBearish
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I LIKE IT!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:18 | 1016203 RockyRacoon
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I don't see World Peace on your list of stuff that will not happen.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:08 | 1016385 rookie
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c'mon rocky, you have to start somewhere.  you have to agree on the list of demands before you start demanding them.  zh is really good at illuminating the problems - now let's help with the solutions.  

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:17 | 1016619 RockyRacoon
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I'm all fer it.   Let's start with some practical solutions that will actually be implemented by US.  The Powers ain't doin' diddly.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:17 | 1016418 Arrowflinger
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I would add - "Restore Mark to Market"

That won't happen because then 401k holders would see the devastation and panic.

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:23 | 1016438 Psquared
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Solar panels are still impractical. It takes more petroleum to manufacture them than what they replace consumes. EVs, combined with nuclear power, offshore drilling and further research and devlopment into fusion power, superconductors, batteries, solar, wind, geothermal, etc might do the trick.

I would add that something must be done to clean up the MERS mess and I will admit that I have no idea how to do it. People who owe money should have to pay for their home. They should not get it for free. However, banks that committed foreclosure fraud, failed to record assignments and double sold MBSs should be punished.

Not with fines mind you ... but bring out the corporate executives and put them on trial for the public to see.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:46 | 1016516 theopco
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I wish people would stop perpetuating this myth

eroi on solar is around 7

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:01 | 1016788 Calmyourself
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Pure production eroi is not that good and their energy density sucks..  I wish people would give the whole answer not just the part that makes them feel good about gaia..  How much of N. America would we cover with your panels to make an appreciable difference for example?  Bueller, Bueller....

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:26 | 1016880 gmj
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What about conservation?  No new tech needed.  Just stop behaving like pigs.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:06 | 1016580 Mesquite
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Sure don't understand why anyone would

want to 'junk' that list..

Oh, and get a shortwave radio...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:47 | 1015818 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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I stop here quite often ...

The Dollar Bill.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:26 | 1015993 Zero Govt
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Here's how you stop The Parasite Club:

1. End Government

2. End Government

3. End Government

Are we all crystal clear?

Get a Petition going you do not and will not endorse Government for a free society and free markets. Once enough millions have signed it there's a spanner in the works of Big Govt and small govt (the same problem, only smaller).

'Game Over' for all parasites

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:56 | 1016121 j.darkness
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CD, thank you for all your contributions, I have much enjoyed your perspective.  To your question...something about a small group of concerned citizens comes to mind.  The scale of the problem, the entrenchment of the problem at every level of our lives is insurmountable.  Changing a few things here and there will not make a difference.  The current paradigm will crumble from its own complexity.  While this occurs, what do we do?  Panic at the disco!  I like the strategy of rendering it obsolete.  For example, the horse and buggy was not systemically or intentionally destroyed, nor did it lose its intrinsic value or ability to perform its function, it was rendered obsolete by more efficient means of transportation.  We need to do the same thing with crony capitalism.  Render it obsolete by making it irrelevant for our real economy.  This does not involve war, or courts, or politics.  It does involve imagination and responsibility as well as a willingness to let go of our current corrupt and collapsing way of life.  Not many are willing.  this brings us back to the small group of concerned citizens...can't change the rest of the system, but they can do things differently and render the current system obsolete and irrelevant.  Only very recently have I began to understand (much of anything!) the implications of that old saying "the meek shall inherit the earth."

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:12 | 1016183 akak
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j. darkness, I would be highly interested to hear you elaborate on these thoughts.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:27 | 1016446 Psquared
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Basically, this means going Galt. Refuse to participate in the system and starve the beast. But someone, somewhere is going to have to be willing to go to prison.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 21:49 | 1017183 Cathartes Aura
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you may not believe this, but people have been doing this, successfully, for decades. . . that you don't read about them or hear about them is not for lack of their being around, but most people don't care to know, too busy running in the same habitual circles they call "reality."

seriously, there ARE other ways of being in the world, even in amrka, that opt out of most of the systems people believe are "essential" - as Terence McKenna said:

Culture is your Operating System!

just delete!

(thanks to ORI for re-minding me of this great quote!)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 22:46 | 1017302 Fearless Rick
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Yes, you're right, and in response to the impractical (because it assumes those in power will do those thing) list presented earlier, how about:

Drive less

grow own vegetables

buy locally

avoid buying Chinese products and in fact ask store managers if they have any (whatever you're looking for) made in the USA, or at least NOT made in China

Somebody please snuff Thomas (the world is flat) Freidman

Use every conceivable method to take all deductions, credits, etc. on every state and federal tax return

STOP VOTING - this is probably the most effective method because when turnout dribbles down to 23% or so, some intrepid reporters will start asking people why they don't vote, and the answers will be the TRUTH.

stop paying all mortgages.

encourage everyone in your neighborhood and town to challenge their property assessments

TALK to your friends and neighbors and fid out what irks them, then bring it to the attention to your representatives and the media. (I know, that one's kinda weak)

Brew your own beer and vint your own wine. Grow your own tobacco and whatever else you like to smoke, eat, chew on, etc.

Get rid of your kids (I don't have any because I know what a pain they are) j/k

Anyhow, that's a start.

 

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 03:10 | 1017783 newworldorder
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I like your thinking, but I dont know about the meek inheriting the earth. There are too many of us on this planet. The financial elite believe in power, control, and the dispensation of human vices that keep the majority in fear or render them meek.

Consider the movie Dune. "The spice must flow." The FED $ is the new spice. As long as it flows to the poorest amongst us there will be no change. The middle class that is left will fight the devil to avoid its eventual relegation among the poor. I see meekness coming not boldness.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:35 | 1016480 flattrader
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Somebody needs to write a verbose, mind-numbing 5,000 word essay.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:02 | 1016793 Calmyourself
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.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 20:49 | 1017088 RECISION
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Hahaha  :-)

Give that man a prize.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 22:48 | 1017308 Fearless Rick
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calling cog diss, cog diss to the meth lab writing room...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:23 | 1015686 Hedgetard55
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Typical libtard Bullshit.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:39 | 1015762 alien-IQ
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slave.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:45 | 1015792 DaveyJones
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at least your talking with the labels they want you to use 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:21 | 1016208 RockyRacoon
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I'm all on the edge of my seat in anticipation of your suggestions.

At least Farrell has the guts to put forth some ideas.    Yours?

Oh, wait.  I guess those would be more tax breaks for folks who don't need them, removing all unions, and electing Palin president.   That should work.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:11 | 1016596 Mesquite
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RR, You're hiliarious ..( Respctfully..)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:19 | 1016623 RockyRacoon
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I just find some degree of humor or sarcasm to be more effective when dealing with the current crop of retards who show up on ZH, drop their steaming load, and disappear to the ether.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 20:54 | 1017094 akak
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I just find some degree of humor or sarcasm to be more effective when dealing with the current crop of retards who show up on ZH, drop their steaming load, and disappear to the ether.

Unfortunately, that is one crop of which we never seem to have a poor harvest.  Lately, in fact, it is been a bumper crop.  Too bad we can't douse our surpluses with gasoline and burn them in the fields like we used to.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 22:52 | 1017323 Fearless Rick
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"current crop of retards"

 

Are you excluding the previous crop of retards or the permanent retards. I cry FOUL, heinous FOWL, humungous FUCK!

You know the CEO of Paychex want you to stop using the "R" word......

http://www.r-word.org/r-word-Golisano-Foundation-PSA.aspx

I can't actually believe people would spend money to promote this bullshit. It's, well, it's retarded!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:24 | 1015691 tempo
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Some facts on the 2011 budget....56.7% of spending ($2.1 T ) is for entitlements;  18.7% ($800 B) on defense;  4.6% of spending on interest (rates and debt will increase);  1 in 3 families (46 mm people) on food stamps;  tax revenue flat at $2 T ;  little chance of job growth with Corporations free to outsource.   There is no answer without cutting entitlements and defense.  Tea Party opposites cuts in both areas.  States/Counties are running larger deficits which can't be financed without bring back build America bond programs (not likely).   Where does this all end??

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:18 | 1015950 JohnG
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War.  It's the new American Idol.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 03:17 | 1017789 newworldorder
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As long as we dont have to fight it. Now -  where is that French Foreign Legion?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:35 | 1016925 ToddGak
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It doesn't necessarily "end".  Instead you see a slow, grinding decrease in standard of living.  More money spent on necessities, less left over to save and/or spend on things like college education for your kids.  Structural high unemployment.  More people on government assistance, and so higher taxes.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:24 | 1015699 carbonmutant
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Farrell is trolling for tinfoil.

This is more smoke an mirrors.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:25 | 1015702 Quinvarius
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Nothing will change until the Frito Lay trucks stop refilling the vending machines.  Only hunger for basic food staples like Twinkies and Doritos will wake up the masses. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:28 | 1015713 Oh regional Indian
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If coke goes off the shelf, it's over.

ORI

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:24 | 1015979 Almost Solvent
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I was going to throw out the typical Pepsi or RC Cola line, but I am now confused since Coke was not capitalized, perhaps you meant the nose candy kind.

 

I do agree that losing either would be game over.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:34 | 1016923 gmj
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Remember how Boris and Natasha nearly crashed US culture in the Rocky and Bullwinkle show?  They built an army of steel rats that would climb up on people's roofs and chew up their TV antennas.  America could never survive that.  The opiate of the masses, gone.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:29 | 1015719 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Eat the poor.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:30 | 1015720 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Revolution - Another Job Americans just dont want to do....

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:22 | 1015977 narapoiddyslexia
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Why can't we outsource the Revolution? We could hire some Israeli consultants to oversee our outsourcing of the Revolution to some Mumbai Indians. Very clean.

 

BTW, I have a newbie threadjack question that is burning a hole in my pocket.

 

Why does the spot silver market drop every day at 2pm? Sorry. Pls advise.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:15 | 1016195 robobbob
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read turd fergusons website

http://tfmetalsreport.blogspot.com/

silver stops high volume trading on the open markets. starts trading on lower volume easy to manipulate after hours market 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:31 | 1015723 johnnymustardseed
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a country that can not help the many who are poor can not save the few who are rich

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:19 | 1016848 Calmyourself
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40 million on foodstamps or assistance.  We have the richest "poor" in the world by far, leave America see more than your backyard.  True poverty 9/10 times is mindset, bad government, cultural limitations or a combination there of..

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 20:46 | 1016935 gmj
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The welfare state pays the poor to make more poor.  The money comes from taxpayers, so they can't afford big families.  Darwin would throw up.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:31 | 1015728 cougar_w
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All good points, however the Wall Street blowup will be defused by an even larger bomb: Global war.

Exactly like the last time.

We are trapped. I don't see any way out of the trap. Democracy is indeed dead and democratic principles were the only possible mechanism by which regular working people and communities could save themselves. Without a working democratic model there is only open armed insurrection, and even that would be a hard gamble against bad odds. The modern US military --- paid in plunder and oil wealth and trained to kill subversives on sight --- is at best an unreliable factor in all this.

I have a 10 yo son. I'm really worried about where all this is headed. My animal senses are getting a bad feeling. They have never proven wrong. Never.

Something wicked this way comes.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:11 | 1015890 DaveyJones
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Feel the same way. Have four kids. I will do anything for them. That is the bottom line. I have one pathetic hope that history holds the unknown. Most things are innevitable by trend and others can be dramatic curves through heroic, passionate, human individuals. Looking for that person. As CD points out, all of us need to stand up and be them. There is no way they can counter that force. The last scene in the film Witness, standing up to the murderous, corrupt police chief. What are you going to do shoot him, shoot me, shoot all of us? It's over. It's like an addiction, the first thing we have to admit is our universal disease. It's either our fear or our ignorance killing us. We do not have to have all the answers, we simply have to admit the line has been crossed and the result is deadly unless.

Iceland, Egypt, Libya..what the hell happened to us? We may not be as hungry literally, but philosophically, morally, we're starving. We will crash harder and suffer greater unless we do something to save our children. It's like those criminal economic and political leaders who are asked about the consequences and say "who cares, I'll be dead by then." They're suhuman. I can not take part in that. Like any other human protecting his own, I will go down fighting.    

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:13 | 1015934 cougar_w
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Like any other human protecting his own, I will go down fighting. 

Hear hear. There is no other way than to stand and be counted.

Bring it, bitchez. Hell awaits.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:47 | 1016087 johnQpublic
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so what would it take to actually get you out in the street protesting?

 

 

 

 

there will be no revolution

there will be plenty of talk though

hypocrisy...its whats for breakfast

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:33 | 1016474 Psquared
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jq - I'm afraid you are right. We are on a slow descent into hell. Like Sigourney Weaver in the movie "Aliens."

Is there a website where instead of talking people actually plan what to do and then carry it out?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:52 | 1016532 flattrader
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There's an actual place.

Go to WI and march at the state Capitol.

There were 80,000 people last weekend.  There will be the same if not more this weekend.

Gov. Kochsucker has essentially locked-out the taxpayers from the building.  Reps. moved their desks outside to have meetings with constituents.

Under the guise of "an end to collective bargaining" he inserted a provision to sell state energy and wealth producing assets to his coporate masters.  He tipped his hand in his prelude to a full-on looting of the state by corporations.

Have fun.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 05:41 | 1017868 4ndy
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+10000000.......

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:25 | 1016875 Calmyourself
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I have been in the streets protesting peacefully, I wont tell you whom my compatriots were as then I become a mind numbed robot controlled and subverted by the shadowy powers, mmmm..

This conversation is to be honest about much more than standing in front a a State capital with a sign and a desire for accountability and transparency. These people are talking community activism on a scale that Bill and Bernadette would endorse and perhaps their protege as well.  But as we all know those types of actions are only proper, excusable and frankly rewardable ( books, speaking contracts etc) for the extreme left.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:28 | 1016000 Shameful
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Yeah when the crash comes it will be rough, no culture to hold us together. Look at the animosity we have towards each other in "good times". People deeply divided over stuff like gay marriage. Yeah when the balloon goes up we will eat each other. But I'm quite sure the culture creators count on that. Much easier to get away with the greatest heist in human history if the victims will turn on each other and let the perp walk out of the room.

It's also why it's not fixable, has to crash and burn itself out. Culture doesn't turn on a dime and people will be trapped in their own mental prisons and lash out. All we can do is try to protect ourselves and our loved ones.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:46 | 1016311 velobabe
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davey, i am supposing you are male. you would do any thing for your four children. bull shit. i bet you are talking your gym shit. i am a single mother, with one daughter. i raised her with much love, attention and supervision the best i could. that is all i can say to her, i did the best i could. this child of mine has thrown me under the bus more times then i really want to acknowledge. these american spoiled kids don't need their parents to proclaim this self guilty statement of: i would do anything for my children. look you raised them got them into college, let them take over their lives. i will probably never talk to my daughter again, i have said it before. i really don't care. so be it† if my daughter can tell me to fuck off when the going gets rough, bye bye. it was tough for me to detach with her going into college and leaving home. these pathetic parents, don't have a life when the kids leave to pursue their own. americans are so fucking insecure, all they have is your statement: i would do anything for my children to save this country for them. fuck them. fuck you for supporting this stupid message. these kids are just pathetic.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:05 | 1016381 Shameful
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Everyone is different though. Maybe a minority but some still value family bonds, even among us young people. I have a great relationship with my parents and talk to them both a fair amount. And I love my nephews. The lunatic uncle showing up with silver, taking them out to ice cream, and to play soccer.

So maybe not save the country, but we are in it to save ourselves and our loved ones. Sorry to hear about your daughter, hope she comes around. Family is important and it's sad how it's devolved in our culture.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:54 | 1016538 LFMayor
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Velo, I tyically like your comments, but speak for yourself and your own.  You raised her. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:25 | 1016653 WaterWings
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Kathy,

I was very rude to you months ago. I was wrong about my perception. My sincere apologies. I wish you well in the next phase.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 21:27 | 1017153 Dyler Turden II Esq
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Wow. That's CHARACTER. One does not see it often, these days.

Congratulations, waterwings, and thanks. You just increased our collective potential, in addition to your own.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 23:00 | 1017338 Fearless Rick
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Davey, davey, stop the whining about your precious children. Teach them to shoot straight. Take them out of the putrid schools. Do something other than just hand-wringing or you'll become a victim.

Start small. Do something symbolic. It will give you power. Spit on the window of a bank. Anything. You'll feel better and maybe get arrested. It will give you strength and by the sound of your words, you need it.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 23:53 | 1017488 DaveyJones
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sorry if me and my children disappoint you

Sat, 03/05/2011 - 21:23 | 1022706 goldfish1
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 Looking for that person.

Look in the mirror. Stand solid in your own being. Don't project your fear pictures - it gives them power. Occupy your own space and let your power radiate outward. See the world as you wish it to be...see it. And be here and move forward armed with that vision.

Each person (children included)is a force to be reckoned with once he claims his own spirit and power. Humans are incredible beings. The subhumans and their contrivances are rotting corpses.

PS: See TV and radio as programming tools the subhumans use to rob us of our visualizing power and our vision to create the world we live in. Cell phones as well have disturbing electro magnetic fields that disrupt our energy fields and sleep in particular.

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:49 | 1016091 redguard
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Your instincts are correct. This is why there wasn't a big fight to stop the repeal of don't ask don't tell(as compared to the 90's). DOD anticipates needing the draft in the future. DADT was a way out of forced induction. All one would have to do to avoid a draft induction would be to declare your homosexuality or your refusal to serve with them. At that point you would be in violation of military law, and therefore unable to be inducted.
The rich always leave themselves an out though i.e. Taxes, emigration etc. Identify there way out and take advantage for son. good luck.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:39 | 1016284 Hacksaw
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Talk to him everyday, explain that Loving America doesn't mean fighting for the elite. Raise him to be a man who defends his family, neighbors and community, but refuses to be cannon fodder for the banksters. If enough do this maybe when they throw the next big one no one will show up.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:33 | 1015733 Predator
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I have a dozen folks on my staff earning $25-50K who are glued to Faux News and the Rush channel.  They vote in lockstep with whatever they hear.  Thinking has been eradicated.  I'm certain they still believe that they're one step away from the rich man's table instead of recognizing that they're fed crumbs and even those are at risk.  Nothing changes in this country until they wake up.  Nothing.  Mind control is an amazing thing.  I'm not even certain that Medicare/Medicaid reform would register.  Military cuts?  Nah, they're mostly 20 and out pensioners, so why mess with that one?  Social Security?  Now that one might ring a bell, but not until the annual statement reveals some changes.  Nobody wants to rock the corporate boat because it's "employment at will".  So who is going to revolt?  The 75% employed or the 25%?  I think the elite are safe until somebody not bought and owned breaks down the wall.  And who will that be?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:56 | 1015861 LFMayor
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Complacency, ignorance, greed, pride... all working toward tearing down your wall Predator.  They, whoever happens to be riding the tiger, will bone up eventually.  The power will go out.  The food won't get delivered. A large nickel iron meteorite will impact the Yucatan peninsula.  Shit happens and all the bureaocracy and planning in the world can't prevent it.  With some many plates being juggled right now, I'd say this is the most potential for wildness since the Romans fell.  Add another variable or two right now and the possibility for crash, real, worldwide changes, are manifold. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:35 | 1015736 lynnybee
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 "Yes, Wall Street is bankrupting America.  But nobody cares."   ....

I care.  I care so much that my heart hurts to know this is what our elected officials have been involved in creating.   These representatives that we elected are the very people who have destroyed us.   It's not just WALL ST., don't forget corrupt politicians .    When will we name names ?   Did it really start with REAGAN, or F.D.R. , or was it CLINTON & GORE ?   Who knows.     All I know is that it must end, for the sakes of our kids & grandkids....... I'm too old to care much about anything other than the kids & I will NOT STAND BY while they are harmed.   It's revolution, people ....... we're going to have to go through a revolution or the kids aren't going to be o.k.  ... please don't junk me, i speak from the heart.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:47 | 1015822 LFMayor
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Lynnybee, on a positive note I think more people are coming to this same realization.  Even a year ago, a posting like yours would have gotten tutted and insulted on a number of different forums, now I see more people stating thoughts like this regularly on them.  Not sure about this site, but even on self avowed gun rights and 2a threads talk of revolution was quickly doused. Not so much these days.  Smoke is on the wind.

Junks time:  The last time Amercia woke up, really woke up, the world got changed.  Vigorously.  It will happen again. Joe Schitt the Ragman is slow on the uptake, and he doesn't rouse quickly.  Like a steam plant.  But once his ass is red and up to temprature, it's go time.  We'll clean up the backyard and I hope adopt a government model along the lines of Heinlein's Starship Troopers.  Once everyone is pointed the same direction, instead of at each other, we can see about getting off this rock.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:01 | 1015884 SpeakerFTD
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Lynnybee,

For the record, you are my favorite poster on ZH.  

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:28 | 1016008 billhilly
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I'll second that!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:09 | 1016821 lynnybee
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dear ZEROHEDGE posters ~~ that is the kindest, nicest thing anyone has said to me & i appreciate it.   for a while i thought of not posting anymore, because i was so sensitive to being "junked" .    i'm not like the rest of you, you are all so young & smart & stock-market wise.   i'm just a Mom & Grandma who's been sucked into this MASSIVE STORY !  

 This is the story of our lifetime, the BIGGEST FRAUD & SCAM in the history of the world.    9/11 by our own government, stock market scam, deliberate take down of my country by international bankers, dollar collapse, rising commodities, CFTC, Commodities Modernization Act of 2000, GOLDMAN, silver, gold, whistleblowers, car accidents, BUSH CRIME FAMILY, ROBERT RUBIN & CLINTON ........... my god !!!   i've fallen into the biggest story ever & i can't get up !!     

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:43 | 1016065 samsara
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Lynny

1st; Calm your heart. 

It will not help your children if you have a heart attack over it.  

Work within your circles,  Affect who you can.  Keep yourself strong for your children.

Watch this short one communication.  VERY important to understand.

Language as a window into human nature.

http://www.wimp.com/humannature/

One of the people who replied to you said to the effect that "I've seen a big difference over the last year,  people are starting to wake up...."

Relate that to the end of the video where we go from Individual Knowledge to Mutual Knowledge.

Why was the little boy so important saying "He's Naked"? 

Pay attention to the end...

Also Reread Charles's post yesterday about Snatching Tiger Cubs and Cherished Delusions

 

We are very near that point....

 

 

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:03 | 1016372 velobabe
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let her have a heart attack. christ these old ladies care more about the animals (domesticated dogs and cats) that have to survive a cold spell. the kids have resilence. i am so fucking tried of hearing i want to save this country for our kids and grand kids. i want to save this Earth and animals. that is who i care about. fuck people, they are just destroyers of beautiful and natural beings. out of sheer jealousness. the human being is a fucking mother ass ugly being.

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