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Paul Krugman Comments On Shooting, Blames Republicans For "Hate-Mongering"

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Just posted by Paul Krugman, who apparently doesn't need to hear the facts before blasting away at Republicans.

From the NYT:

We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before.
And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans
might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a
Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona,
precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her
father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list.

Just yesterday, Ezra Klein remarked that opposition to health reform was getting scary.
Actually, it’s been scary for quite a while, in a way that already
reminded many of us of the climate that preceded the Oklahoma City
bombing.

You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship
whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck,
Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months
and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a
climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a
stand against the hate-mongers.

Update: I see that Sarah Palin has called the
shooting “tragic”. OK, a bit of history: right-wingers went wild over
anyone who called 9/11 a tragedy, insisting that it wasn’t a tragedy, it
was an atrocity.

Update: I’m going to take down comments on this one;
they would need a lot of moderating, because the crazies are coming out
in force, and it’s all too likely to turn into a flame war.

 

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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:27 | 859632 bob_dabolina
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In...3....2....1....

This was Bush's fault

-Nancy Pelosi

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:32 | 859663 Malcolm Tucker
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Paul Krugman should concentrate more on why he is a proponent of bubbles. His inflationary strategies are causing massive worldwide hunger due to inflated food prices:

Charting Bushels & Bernanke:

http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/2011/01/charting-bushels-and-bernankes.html

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:57 | 859812 Haywood Jablowme
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"and so it begins"......

sure you'll get some "lone" wolves acting out but within the chaos, these fucking elitists will also inject their own payrolled "terrorists" to play along in these fucking games to further their agenda.

More b.s. propaganda and false flags comin' our way.  Maybe the mayans have it right...

 

 

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:48 | 860065 steve3828
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He has made his whole career by inflaming anger in the public.  This article is a perfect example. Such hypocrisy

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:59 | 860303 Turd Ferguson
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What a fucking asshole The Great Douchebag is. Its as if he'd written this column months ago, waiting to publish it when something like this happened.

In 1981, Ronald Reagan was shot by John Hinckley. In the immediate aftermath, did "right-wingers" attempt to pin blame upon Jimmy Carter, Tip O'Neill and Walter Mondale? Of course not. And its a good thing they didn't because we soon found out that the deranged Hinckley was simply trying to impress Jodie Foster.

Assholes like The Great Douchebag are some of the most vile, disgusting beings wealking the face of the earth.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:30 | 860563 SamuelMaverick
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+1.  Spot on analysis Turd.  Yours, Maverick

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:53 | 860634 barkingbill
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hinckey was a friend of the bush family...might have been a power struggle within that presidency...some have concluded. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:43 | 860746 patience...
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True, but he also began shooting random people around him. Which leads a person to believe he was looking at them as supporters of hers.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:54 | 860919 Tortfeasor
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Or he was just fucking nuts.  That's all

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:48 | 861804 tmosley
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The best way to mobilize and control the population is to make them think there is an external threat that demands both their labor and their submission to fight.

There have been WAY to many instances of both liberals and neoconservatives both talking about and USING such methods for that to simply be dismissed as a fantasy.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:32 | 862278 DosZap
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Check out where Neocons got their start,and Liberals,they are near twins.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:05 | 860808 berlinjames02
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Hey Paul Krugman... STFU!!

I hate Krugman. I hope someone shoots that asshole.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 13:34 | 862034 Bill - Yes That Bill
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(*THUMBS UP*)

BILL

 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 22:23 | 862853 Clayton Bigsby
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Agreed - I don't believe in shooting people for having different views, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if somebody kicked his monkey ass real good....  The man clearly has no dignity

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:26 | 862262 DosZap
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Exactomundo,'

But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate.

Your ilk, and your party is the REASON for the hate.

You SCREAM from the rooftops your agendas, and when 70% of Americans DO not want what your selling, you call them haters,and rednecks, and stupid.

The thought never crosses your ilks mind,that as the minority, and holding radical Anti American views, your the CAUSE for the acts.

Your vitriol, and anti American views, bring these things on.

Your the match, that lights the flame.

 

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:32 | 859991 Ray1968
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Will Krugman and all the other lefties apologize when the truth of this wacko comes out and it is discovered he's a leftie??

 

I'm not holding my breath. Typical double standard.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:14 | 860350 homersimpson
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The shooter's favorite book list consisted of books like Kommunist Manifesto, Brave New World, etc.

In other words, another bitter liberal is not happy with his role in life..

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:30 | 860572 dark pools of soros
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you really believe that list???  his myspace gets ripped down but that shit stays up..  pure CIA seeding

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:56 | 860923 Tortfeasor
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How bout you check his youtube vids instead.  Unless you think those are also CIA plants

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:55 | 860644 barkingbill
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haha....well your kind of attitude is one reason to leave the states and be done with that conservative hell hole...

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:39 | 861138 Ray1968
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You are free to go find your liberal utopia.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:49 | 860072 AnAnonymous
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His inflationary strategies are causing massive worldwide hunger due to inflated food prices:

 

His?

I missed something.

As far as it can be told, the strategies are the US citizens' strategies. They are carried out by the man in charge of carrying out this type of strategies: Ben Bernanke.

This Kurgmann person is only a commentator which has no power in the implementation of the strategies.

These strategies are nothing new to the US and are commonly performed by the US to open up markets.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:54 | 860093 Malcolm Tucker
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Fine, you got me :) . I meant the strategies he is a proponent of. I agree with you completely. I would only add that he is influential and heavily cited by officials to justify their policies.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:52 | 860907 StychoKiller
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Paul Krugman should look into buying his own suit of body armor, before someone decides to introduce him to "Smith & Wesson."

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:01 | 860124 Clayton Bigsby
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All I've got to say about Krugman is - what a fucking cunt.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:19 | 860839 Freddie
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The shooter is a leftist.  This woman is a fairly conservative Democrat, is for protecting the border and is almost a Republican on many issues. I knew it from the moment I heard the story that the shooter was a leftist.

Krugman is a POS and was on Enron's payroll.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:22 | 861111 Yits and the Yimrum
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you guys need to understand that the shooter was a hitter; plain and simple

I wish he was an anarchist, but he just a fried POS that positioned for a hit

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 02:10 | 861182 SheHunter
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Good job Tyler.  Picked Krugman when there are numerous other figureheads who also had something to say about the murders.  Jumped on the opp to rile up the hatred in us.  Sorry big guy.  I'm not taking your bait on this one. 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 08:09 | 861493 malikai
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Hi, I'm junker #2. I'd like to invite you to go back to moveon.org, where you can resume your party circle jerk for benefits instead of trolling people who actually care about their country.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 14:13 | 862105 SheHunter
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If a troller is someone who only shows up to smash ZH I do not fit that mould.  Insofar as my "going back to moveon.org"...they are not one of my bookmarked sites.  ZH, Automatic Earth, Politico, B-Berg, Alex Jones, The Raw Story, Brad'sBlog and the Fed Reserve Treasury Op Schedule are some of my most traveled sites.  I sometimes like Maddow and Fox's Judge N. and sometimes sneer at Maddow and Judge N.  Wake up.  Pinning one label on any one person is juvenile.  Handy because our society needs enemies, but juvenile, unproductive and naive.  cheers   She Hunter. 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 23:36 | 862953 oygevalt
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where you refuted the facts behind what Tyler actually said. Could you repeat that please?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 07:52 | 861477 dcb
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That just means there aren't enough left wing revolutionaries in this country. thyere are times when the "right" gets it right. To be honest I expected this much earlier. When do you think happens when people startt o realize that the very people they elected do represent their interests. that no matter what they represent the interests of the oligarchy. We got rid of england for less that our own government is doing to the majority of americans economically. So, Why isn't it happening more, and why isn't there a legit resistance group in america. These are the questions I wonder.

 

the american people are at war with their own government and the banksters. we are loosing. I have said this for years. So, should it surprise anyone that this happened. I still am amazed there has been so little violence.

I wonder when people are going to get so fed up with Obama's continued handing over this nation to thre banksters that they take to the streets. 

I came to the conclusion long ago that the current system would only change after violence. the issue will be willn the troops shoot the citizens, or realize their actions are justified in getting rid of a facist kleptocracy.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:08 | 861629 razorthin
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+1000

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:32 | 861663 nmewn
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"...the issue will be willn the troops shoot the citizens, or realize their actions are justified in getting rid of a facist kleptocracy."

I think they are with us.

There is only maybe one standing division (no names) that would obey an order to shoot civilians...and the line officers would soon stop following the generals orders.

The National Guard (theoretcally) could be used across state lines, Michigan troops policing Fla. for example (so brother won't have to shoot brother) but soon this too would stop as, in the end, they are us.

They (officers & soldiers) are sworn to protect the Constitution...not necessarily the leaderships orders...they are also instructed to only obey what they deem as lawful orders, I know a few low ranking ones...they're good people.

The drones are a different deal...but again, the anymosity between the CIA/NSA etc. and the military (basically, us) has a long history of only grudgingly working together.

Just my thoughts on it.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 14:53 | 862196 cosmictrainwreck
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Interesting notion........CIA vs NSA vs FBI vs ATF vs H Suckurity........ Seeing as how each agent individually is a clusterfuck, we can hope the pathetic internecine assumes accelerating synergistic effects to turn ordinary strife into a melt-down. HOT DAMN....now "I have a dream"

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 14:57 | 862206 cosmictrainwreck
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Interesting notion........CIA vs NSA vs FBI vs ATF vs H Suckurity........ Seeing as how each agent individually is a clusterfuck, we can hope the pathetic internecine assumes accelerating synergistic effects to turn ordinary strife into a melt-down. HOT DAMN....now "I have a dream"

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:28 | 859635 Al Gorerhythm
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This ass wipe needs.......

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:44 | 859669 G-R-U-N-T
Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:35 | 859685 I am more equal...
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...a brain.  Fuck that Keysiantard asshole. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:05 | 859863 flacon
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Well.... Keynes was a homosexual, so I suppose you are right.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:30 | 859642 Cognitive Dissonance
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Update: I’m going to take down comments on this one; they would need a lot of moderating, because the crazies are coming out in force, and it’s all too likely to turn into a flame war.

Krugman haunted by the crazies? Say it ain't so Paul, say it ain't so. I recommend Thorazine, but what do I know?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:42 | 859732 Logans_Run
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As if what he said wasn't a flame war? Fuck!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:48 | 859766 nmewn
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LOL.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:36 | 860012 imapopulistnow
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He is a flaming moron.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:39 | 860412 High Plains Drifter
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Thorazine mate?  We gotchu covered.  It is in the New York City water supply already, thank  you very much.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 08:11 | 861495 malikai
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What good is thorazine to the lobotomized?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:35 | 859687 Boilermaker
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Agreed, but Olberman isn't a whole helluva' lot better either.

I don't know where the god damn partisan horseshit ends anymore.  It's literally out-of-control at this point.

I guess if you can keep people busy blinded with partisan BS it keeps them from focusing on the truth.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:14 | 860510 Calmyourself
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Apparently you drank too many boilermakers pal, the Left is virtually always the instigators of violence.   Put down the drink and educate yourself..

See someone even approaching the level of vitriol aimed at Bush and you let us know champ..

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:45 | 860752 Boilermaker
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I'm not left or right.  They both suck.  It's too bad you can't even recognize that I've never taken a 'leftist' position.  But, pal, I guess that just can't be.  Someone who can see through Glenn Beck's pile of shit = leftist.

You are a really a broad thinker.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:27 | 860853 Woppopotamus
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It ends when you pull the plug on the pile of shit that is cable television.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:06 | 860947 Bringin It
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Woppo

It ends when you pull the plug on the pile of shit that is television.

I like where you're going with this, but why limit the scope to cable?  The free stuff is so much better?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 04:20 | 861322 jeff montanye
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ever since the change to high def, the free stuff is much harder to receive.  personally that is when i stopped watching the medium and i can't say i miss it.  the very best of the scripted stuff is available on dvd.  as for the news ....

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:26 | 861764 Calmyourself
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I never called you a lefty or mentioned Glen Beck.  Quit trying to put thoughts into my head it is obvious you don't have many to spare.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:37 | 861134 SheHunter
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Whoa pony.  Drop the BS.  Olberman, Maddow et al carry strong opinions but you never never hear any of the cloaked violence from them.  You do not hear the Beck-anese call to arms and the slanderous accusations.  The entire posture of the highest GOP figureheads has, at the best been quiet acceptance of their parties' extreme fringes, and at the worst support of these radicals.  The GOP party wants this violence and condones this violence.  Our new figurehead speaker of the house, asked if he would suggest to his house members who carry the O'B not a citizen banner to drop the BS and begin concentrating on the real issues this country faces drawled that everyone has different opinions and it was not his right to tell others what to think.  That statement was the GOP in a clam shell- they WANT the anger, distruct and hatred.  Go the F ahead and junk me.  You need to open your eyes and see we all are in this ballgame together.  Different sides of the bleachers but the same game.  And the hatred and violence against one another makes us weaker at a time when we need to band together to survive what is becoming an invasion of our citizens' rights.. 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 16:47 | 862398 Bay of Pigs
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Sounds like you don't even realize who the enemy is.

And Maddow? That show is a total piece of shit. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:46 | 859752 mtomato2
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Wait, um...  Wait.   I'm trying to remember when Beck ever said he hated anyone.  Oh, yeah:  NEVER.  I'm wondering, also, whether you have ever heard his show or read anything he's ever written.  I would bet my next three paychecks that you have not.

Grow up and do your homework before you pop off so irresponsibly about something you know absolutely nothing about.

 

-the next guy's 100

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:51 | 859772 Boilermaker
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That guy is a fucking pandering and fear mongering jackhole that preys on the ignorant.  Just like the fuckwads on MSNBC.  How anybody can have faith and actually believe the shit flowing the mouths of Hannity and Olberman is beyond me.  Jesus Christ, if you don't know that they are leading you around by a nose ring...then you are really fucking stupid.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:56 | 859807 mtomato2
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First of all, your artistry with language leaves much to be desired, even for a six-year-old like you.  Second of all, put up or shut up.  Give me ONE (1) example of Glenn Beck even hinting at encouraging hate-inspired aggression.  You won't because you can't.  Loser.

Glenn Beck has faults.  One of them is not inspiring hate.  Do your homework before you embarrass yourself even more on this distinguished forum.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:01 | 859839 Boilermaker
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My "artistry" with language...OK, go fuck off.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:02 | 859843 Boilermaker
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My "artistry" with language...OK, go fuck off.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:04 | 859855 mtomato2
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Your mouse finger is shaking...  :-D

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:05 | 859867 Boilermaker
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Hardly, I just know when to stop trying to teaching Physics to the Janitor.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:09 | 859878 mtomato2
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At least this janitor can write and speak basic English:-D

God Bless you, Boilermaker.  We need you around to show us what depths to avoid.

Was that too complicated for you?

And now...  I gently bow out of this discourse.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:14 | 859893 Boilermaker
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I'm going to call Purdue on Monday and request that they revoke my (2) undergraduate and graduate school degrees.  I don't deserve them, obviously.  A fucking retard on ZH told me so.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:06 | 860326 NoDragons
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I hope that you didn't graduate from the school of engineering and technology.  Pete would not be pleased.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:15 | 860516 Calmyourself
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Get your money back, they left you a dull tool..

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:53 | 861817 tmosley
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Perhaps you should take a few lessons from the janitor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Will_Hunting

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:46 | 860435 High Plains Drifter
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Beck is a CIA misinfo specialist. He is the one who bagged on Ron Paul for so long and he also was dead set against the tea party and he used to call them government haters etc. But they figured they would run him as  a kind of Alex Jones type on MSM to garner the support of any of the "conservative" sheep who are listening to other voices these days, and trying to put it all together because even to complete idiots, something is just not right with the political system and many of the sheep understand this and are searching diligently for a answer, so they listen to Beck, the man for all seasons, who suddenly sprung up on Faux news, just in time, I might add, ready with all of the answers that the dumbed down, but searching sheep are looking for. So now these sheep talk in silly terms such as progressives and communist etc and go after silly targets , men who are very small in the loop, so to speak, and all of the while the boys at the FED rob them blind and yet Beck blames it all on the "progressives" .  Fifty million a year to do that job. Not bad for a washed up radio disk jockey who had hit bottom and was about to take himself out( by his own words, also, which anyone who listens to his show, has to put up to listeing to this basket case of a man , day in and day out) etc.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:19 | 860841 ClassicalLib17
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I am not so sure about that, HPD, By today's standard, how much of a stretch is it to preach to the inherent honesty and goodness of your fellow man as opposed to any of the legal alternatives? I think, in the end, if we don't have an ethical society, we won't have the necessary people to turn the wheels of justice. Humbly, and thank you

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:28 | 860856 nmewn
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"I think, in the end, if we don't have an ethical society, we won't have the necessary people to turn the wheels of justice."

+1 CL

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:15 | 861635 razorthin
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Elitist banker scum are so flawlessly executing "divide and conquer".

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:47 | 860618 Missiondweller
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I not only disagree but would point out that Beck has, on several occassions, said on his TV show that violence is not the answer. He always stresses that you fight back with education and political engagement- the exact opposite of what you imply.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:10 | 859883 sourgrapesson
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I see Becks got you duped.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:14 | 859897 mtomato2
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Am I really that transparent? 

Must.  Try.  HARDER...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:16 | 859913 Boilermaker
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This fucking idiot doesn't even realize that he's an ENTERTAINER and reading someone else's script.  It's unreal that people can be that stupid, it really is.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:34 | 860872 Dolar in a vortex
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You on the other hand, are just a genius ... but you already knew that.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:13 | 860960 Boilermaker
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Hardly, but, then again, I don't promote myself as some kind of fucking messiah.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:32 | 861773 Calmyourself
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No, you just shove your Purdue bonafides out there like anyone here gives a shit. We are all college educated asshat..  You are no messiah or leader and  you do not have the balls to claim any side as you pointed out.  Not left or right, your just the idiot in the middle being squeezed without the critical thinking skills to decipher who represents your views more fully.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:04 | 861838 Boilermaker
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Uh, no, I was defending myself to a person that was claiming I was stupid. 

I don't have the "balls" to claim a side?  No, I have enough brains to NOT 'claim a side'.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:29 | 859978 Barb Dwire
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU

 

GlenN Beck says it took him about a year to hate the 9/11 families. Google "glenn beck hates"

 

 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 03:12 | 861276 SheHunter
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 ... '   I'm trying to remember when Beck ever said he hated anyone...". 

Nah...of course not.  Beck just called the abortion doctor "Baby-Killer" before the doctor was murdered while attending his church.  But hate anyone? No, not Beck.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:27 | 859960 trav7777
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Beck's a hate fest???  WTF.

Beck's a moron, not a hater...wtf exactly do you think is going on on his show, dipshit?

GFD, you leftards are so hysterical

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:35 | 860006 Boilermaker
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If you watch Beck or Olberman, you are a simpleton.  Anyone that is a partisan hack isn't worth listening to yet alone believing.  Anyone that can think critically wouldn't be able to sit through a full episode without having an aneurysm.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:12 | 860684 trav7777
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Listen, you stupid fuck, there is a difference between your hysterical, retarded shit and the TRUTH.

Who said I watched EITHER of these clowns?  I have seen both of their programs, I have actually watched all of these idiots a few times, Madcow, Olbermoron, and Beck...Cannity and blowhard the Irish.

What you said was that Beck was a hate-fest.  What you said is a LIE.  You fucking got that?

When challenged on your statement, you resort to backtracking, strawmanning, and a host of other logical fallacies.

It doesn't matter whether I am a fan of the moron Glenn Beck or not; what you said is FALSE.  So you either PUT UP or shut the fuck up.

Glenn Beck is a MORON, not a hater.  He's a moron, just like you are.  The problem with you is that you are too STUPID to figure out that if I challenge YOUR statement, I am NOT endorsing Glenn Beck!  I can despise him fifty TIMES as much as you do, and your statement would STILL BE FALSE, you fkin idjit.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:52 | 862314 Rick Masters
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I dislike Beck as much as the next guy and the guy after that but i have watched him a few times and while he seems apocolpyptic in some ways I dont ever recall him making veiled references to violent revolution or "second amendmend remedies."

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:26 | 860381 Turd Ferguson
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Fuck, don't you two see how pathetic you are?

Are you a close, personal friend of the shooter? If not, there is no possible way for you to have any idea what his motives are at this point. You are simply jumping to conclusions because the victim is a democrat.

Did John Hinckley shoot Reagan because he was a left-wing nutjob with an agenda? Of course not! He was a mentally-ill individual who was trying to impress Jodie Foster. An actress he didn't even know. This shooter will likely be shown to be mentally ill, too.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:55 | 860459 High Plains Drifter
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Interesting side note. Bush family were friends with the Hinkley family going back to the days, when they were neighbors in Houston. Hmmm, maybe Bush Sr, wanted to be President real bad. I am just sayin...........It is a known fact that Reagan and Bush hated each other's guts even though they were on the same zionist team, more or less.

http://www.rense.com/general45/hink.htm

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:11 | 860956 Bringin It
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Interesting HPD.  Thanks.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:59 | 860466 fleur de lis
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Beck does not promote hate. If anything he exposes how the puppeteers have historically pit one group against another and benefit from the mayhem. You are spitting venom in all directions instead of focusing on the actions of the perp(s). He or they deserve the blame, not people with whom you disagree.  You and Krugman would get along just fine.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:32 | 860863 Freddie
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I do not watch Tv because it is for idiots.  The woman who was shot is a conservative Democrat and the shooter is a liberal Democrat.  He had a drug arrest and was a Daily Kos poster.  Supposedly he was angry because Giffords did not vote with Pelosi.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:12 | 860959 Bringin It
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TV is for idiots.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:05 | 861840 jemlyn
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Exactly right.  Anyone with a brain has already thrown all TVs out.  Why get upset with the MSM hacks when we have real journalism at places like ZH?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 15:56 | 862323 Rick Masters
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You beleive that bullshit. He said in 2007 to his freind "that woman is stupid and unitelligent." He is not Boyblu; he did not work for her campaign. That would be out by now. Sorry.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:33 | 859671 Ese Pinche
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+100

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:17 | 860357 homersimpson
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"Republican's and Tea Party do press the bullshit too far" Well Obama and a bunch of libbies in office have pumped out $4 trillion in taxpayer cash only to be using the same BS we heard back in 2008.

In other words, your comments are exactly the reason why FOX news is so successful - because they're getting tired of every other news station slanted to the other side of the spectrum.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:17 | 860522 Calmyourself
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+

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:47 | 860758 Boilermaker
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Right, I was attacking the 'right' from a 'libbie' position.  Show me again where I endorse the 'left', 'libbies', Obama, or anything else remotely associated with a donkey\?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:04 | 860944 StychoKiller
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The law of ages never changes as one's conduct in social interaction still identifies oratory as being worthy or no. People that relish rash interaction always find themselves surrounded by fools.

 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:16 | 860972 Boilermaker
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Shit man....that's deep.  I was all pissed off about the Colts game but now...I'm at peace with the universe.

Seriously...there are some simple minded fuckers here.  That's actually surprising to me as it goes contrary to me previous impression.  I guess it only takes one incident for people to start 'bunkering down' in their partisan comfort zones.  God damn it...where is my party platform to stand behind!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:31 | 859655 -Michelle-
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She was on the DailyKos "target" and "bullseye" list too.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:36 | 859698 onlooker
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-----“”in a way that already reminded many of us of the climate that preceded the Oklahoma City bombing.”” -----That would be Waco. We have not had another Waco or Ruby Ridge. This guy uses terrorist talk.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:39 | 859716 Paul Bogdanich
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Too soon Paul.  A judge was killed and he could have been the target in a drug case.  This might not have been a political hit that could have been a diversion as they assumed they would escape. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:39 | 859718 JS1234
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The guy is going to be shown to have been a paranoid schizophrenic and all the liberals blaming the tea party are going to owe them an apology.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:43 | 859739 Boilermaker
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Yea, I was just thinking this could be morphed into a sweet Tea Party victory.  What the fuck is wrong with you?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:48 | 859765 mtomato2
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Boilermaker, you have issues with reason and common sense.  You are literally too stupid to insult.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:54 | 859801 Boilermaker
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From you, that's a compliment.  I wouldn't want to be part of your interpretation of 'senseful' and 'reasonable'.  That's probably because you're an uneducated and generally simple minded fuckwad.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:02 | 859848 mtomato2
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Yep.  You nailed it.  Got me dead to rights.  Your ability to navigate through the portals of the human psyche using nothing more than a keyboard and mouse are uncanny.  You truly are a man among men.  Or... something. 

Keep typing!  You look better with every post!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:08 | 859875 Boilermaker
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Wait...you've really made an impression on me.  I've had a moment of epiphany!

Glenn Beck is the answer to all of life's injustices and inequities.  Glenn Beck...<drool>...Glenn Beck...<rubbing loins>.....ewwwww.....ahhhh...GOP.....Saracuda....Rush....Hannity....

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:10 | 859884 mtomato2
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"Keep typing!  You look better with every post!"

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:21 | 859933 Boilermaker
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Mama Grizzly...Obamacare...Dumocrats...Leftist...Communist...Marxist...

It's about the money but I'm sure it's sooooo much more to you.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:57 | 861967 BrosMacManus
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I'm sure your intentions/message when begining your first post on this thread were different than what they've morphed into with this last post, but you're contributions and others' counter-posts are a shining example of what discourse has devolved into in this country. No middle ground, no face value; just automatic ideological me vs. you, us vs. them claptrap.

Don't get me wrong, flaming someone as being an effin idjit is cool, but the I'm smarter than you and using ideological premises to make the case?

Divide and conquer IS working.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:16 | 860690 trav7777
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wow, you are stupid.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:24 | 859951 jesse livermoore
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I would have though that a person with 2 DEGREES FROM PURDUE could come up with a better adjective than fuckwad.  When you go back there on monday, you should get your money back.....

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:26 | 859956 Boilermaker
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Well, it seemed appropriate.  Although, I would have accepted fuckstick, fuckstain, or fucktard.  I'm flexible like that.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:29 | 859976 jesse livermoore
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Do not quit your day job.........  if you have one..........

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:36 | 860015 Boilermaker
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Ironically, I'm a writer for the Glenn Beck Show.  I like to come here to whip up some feeble minded simpletons to help out the ratings.  It's a cruel trick, I know.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:58 | 860113 Hulk
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In that case, go ahead and write Beck out of the show...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:58 | 860464 High Plains Drifter
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Beck has a lot of health issues. He may write himself out of the script one day soon.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:18 | 860695 trav7777
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well that certainly explains your hardon for glenn beck.

Wait, at what point did anyone here endorse Glenn Beck?  Oh that's right, nobody did.  He's in your head, Glenn Beck has punked you out, bitch.

Now bang those cymbals some more, monkey

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 02:29 | 861215 Jerome Lester H...
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Now bang those cymbals some more, monkey

Now That's funny right there! LOL!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:49 | 860890 Freddie
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Your birth was a cruel trick on you. 

The kid listed The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as some of his favorite books.   He also has a flag burning video on his You Tube account and most people think he is in the video but the person is covered up.   Name any Tea Party types who identify with those books or who are into flag burning?  I mean flag burning is like a childish prank by someone trying to get attention. 

Ms. Giffords is a blue dog Democrat who voted against Pelosi on multiple times, she was one of the House members reading The Constitution in the House this past week and is well liked by House Speaker John Boehner.  The shooter is not a conservative - he is a Dem. Nice try.

 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:18 | 860979 Boilermaker
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Considering I agree with you 100%, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

What does this have to do with the fact that Glenn Beck is a raging retard preying on the ignornant and easily inflamed?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:19 | 860982 Boilermaker
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Considering I agree with you 100%, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

What does this have to do with the fact that Glenn Beck is a raging retard preying on the ignorant and easily inflamed?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 16:11 | 862346 Rick Masters
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Can't we wait and see before we label him and shelf him like a toy for a child. Liberal. Republican. Democrat. Who cares? I guess it matters but no one knows anything for sure yet and half on this board are acting like this is internet jeopardy and are taking the $2000 question for jumping to conclusions.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:18 | 860533 Calmyourself
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You should accept stupid leftist liberal, check a mirror.  You just keep in mind champ your outnumbered by a hell of a lot..

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:07 | 860949 StychoKiller
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The essence of a free society is one in which people are free to live their lives any way they choose, so long as their conduct is peaceful. Freedom necessarily entails the right to make choices that other people find offensive, abhorrent, unpopular, and irresponsible. If people are free only to make the correct choices, then they are not truly free.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:20 | 860983 Boilermaker
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That's true...unless you don't worship Glenn Beck.  Then, it's like a fucking cage match.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:02 | 861835 tmosley
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No, it's "unless you DO worship or defend or fail to completely disavow Glen Beck that BOILERMAKER makes it a fucking cage match".

You are the one who brought him up. You are the one who assumes everyone else worships him. You are the one making a big deal out of him absent any stimulus.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:32 | 860576 Translational Lift
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Sounds like BM has an attitude because he couldn't get a job on the "Purdue" chicken farm..........

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:22 | 860986 Boilermaker
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Perdue, actually...but, who keeps score here?  It was an attempt at being clever even though it sailed off into outer space without effect.  I award you no points but encourage you to soldier on.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:25 | 860989 Boilermaker
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Duplicate...because I don't like Glenn Beck and, ergo, am a pinko commie Obama-loving ignorant...gun hating....faggot....according the swarming high school graduates here.  BTW, what happened to the normal crowd or intellectual beings?  Where did the Hee-Haw crowd come from?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:27 | 861005 weinerdog43
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No sir, you republics are the nazi killers.  FUCK YOU!

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:58 | 861824 tmosley
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"This" is not a Tea Party victory. You and others have simply jumped the gun and are crooning about how all ill in the world is caused by the group you don't like. Sound familiar? It's the exact same fucking logic that caused the Holocaust. Through in a false flag attack against themselves, and you have yourself a rallying point to rob the people of what little remains of their liberty.

So stop fucking jumping to conclusions, you douchebag. The facts will come out eventually.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:42 | 859725 gwar5
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Krugman is a nut. Conservatives won, so nothing even to monger about. I think they're pretty happy these days. Marxist in Europe are rioting and think our marxists feel left out.

Krugman is hate-mongering. The left has never stopped hate-mongering and demonizing according to plan. That's the radical Saul Alinsky way, to never stop agitating. It's why they lost.

 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:01 | 860473 High Plains Drifter
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Left and right are both the same team. Can't you see that yet?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:43 | 860747 Boilermaker
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No, they can't see that and that's the point.  Look at the shit fest in this thread.  I personally hate Obama and Democrats.  I also hate Boehner-the-fake-cry-baby and the Republicans.  Somehow, people can deal with that.  You have to be either one or the other.  You can never...NEVER...acknowledge that they are essentially on the same team.  NEVER.

What's amazing to me is that anyone that is highly partisan, which is about 90% of the populace, is too fucking stupid to think for themselves.  Therefore they just select either a donkey or elephant and just accept it as the 100% correct answer. 

It's fucking amazing....really.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:12 | 860957 StychoKiller
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Using governmental force to impose a vision on others is intellectual sloth and typically results in unintended, perverse consequences.

Can you see Krugman agreeing with that statement?

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:30 | 861009 Boilermaker
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No, but, then again...I don't care about Krugman.  I thought this site was somewhat populated with people that could *kinda* step away from drone-like thinking.  Jesus H...was I wrong.  Plenty of numb-nutted dipshits here.  God forbid someone would take a shot at Fox News....you are clearly a stump-jumping, swamp-running, liberal (still don't get that one), commie, marxist, gay, system-leeching, retarded bozo.

Man...what a let down. 

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:07 | 861084 Yits and the Yimrum
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if these asshats haven't figured out this scam by now, they must not have a pulse

Democrates voting this corporatist thug and Republicans voting in the limited goberment "W"

dumb is as dumb does

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:41 | 859726 Hephasteus
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Ya. Don't you know. Everything happens just so it can be evidence of just how bad the GOP sucks.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:43 | 859734 Apostate
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But wait, Krugman favors assassinations when his government does it. He's instrumental to financing those assassinations and supporting them.

How can he argue against this assassination and sleep at night?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:49 | 859773 Contura
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+++

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:01 | 859842 Hephasteus
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A clean concious that hippocracy always has and always will be supported by the universe.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:54 | 860094 AnAnonymous
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when his government does it

 

The United States of America is an undivided nation. That means that the government of this man is the government of every US citizen.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:09 | 861846 tmosley
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You seem to be under the impression that everyone on the planet or this message board is American.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:43 | 859736 Richard Head
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Krugman is a douche.  He stopped being an economist a long time ago, and now spends 24/7/365 attacking Republicans.  He's as much to blame for inciting violence as anyone else.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 22:19 | 860696 trav7777
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24/7/52

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:43 | 859737 The Answer Is 42
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Awwww, can't we just get along bitchez?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:43 | 859738 sangell
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Maybe it was Judge John Roll who was the 'target' not the Congresswoman.

From Judgepedia

Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:45 | 859756 palmereldritch
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I am concerned that the statist meme will be 'domestic terrorist' and the media meme will be a paranoia that paints any dissidence as the voice of a crazy person thanks to this lunatic criminal.

Fifties redux? Will 'Crazy' be the new Red?

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