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PBS Hacker LulzSec Takes On Archnemesis FBI, Defaces FBI-Affiliate Website In Protest Against NATO And Obama

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Even as the hacker collective known as Operation Empire State Rebellion, which back in March threatened to bring "peaceful revolution to America, and will engage in civil disobedience until Bernanke steps down" and has since largely fallen off the scene, presumably surprised by Bernanke complete of lack fazing, another hacker group, LulzSec, best known for recent hacking into PBS, has just taken the first step toward pissing off none other than its archnemesis the FBI, by defacing and taking control of an FBI affiliate website. From IBTimes: "In an apparent protest against the NATO and Obama administration, the LulzSec group announced the breach of FBI  affiliate website, the Atlanta chapter of Infragard. The group raised claims that they have taken “complete control” over the website and has “defaced it”. They also announced that the data including passwords obtained from would prove useful for them to hack into other FBI affiliates, since a lot of users tend to reuse their passwords even though the practice is generally unappreciated by FBI." So while OP_ESR continues to engage in emptry rhetoric and summons the population to one after another attempt at uprising (Apparently June 14th is the latest D-Day), LulzSec, which is also speculated to be behind the historic ongoing hacks of the various Sony networks, is taking cyber-matters into its own hands. We wonder however whether this escalation of cyberwarfare against the US by the US will necessitate a declaration of war by Obama against the US. Admittedly, that would be a Keynesian wet dream: think of the record boost to GDP if Geithner literally nukes the west and eastern seaboards, only to rebuild them again...

From IBTimes:

In what looks like a silent propaganda, hackers continue to taunt corporations and have now laid their eyes on FBI. If the hackers' threats are valid, even NATO and Obama administration including top officials have got to be extra vigilant. While a large section believes that LulzSec, that hacked into the system of PBS, did so in a bid to show moral support for WikiLeaks, the matter is still under debate since Sony has also been devastated by back to back security breaches by the same group, which doesn’t really fit into the same scheme of things.

The hackers’ next target being FBI has raised considerable amount of uncertainty, as they have been tweeting about it under the tag #FuckFBIFriday. A little while before the Infragard hack, the group had posted a tweet: #FuckFBIFriday in 45 minutes. is suspended following the hack.

The group has announced that an Infragard member offered them money to hack into his competitor’s website and to stay silent about his own database, when they informed him that his personal communication including that through Gmail has been compromised. According to the LulzSec’s claims, the member, Karim Hijazi’s company Unveillance, which specializes in data breaches, has been exposed to extract critical information. The group claimed to have uncovered an operation of US government orchestrated by Unveillance, “to control and assess Libyan cyberspace through malicious means”. The group alleged that “the U.S. government is funding the CSFI to attack Libya's cyber infrastructure”. “We accept your threats, NATO. Game on, losers”, LulzSec wrote in Pastebin.

The group posted a series of tweets mocking FBI, of which one said “we sit and laugh at the FBI. No times decided, but we'll cook up something nice for tonight.” The group has announced that “the hacks and leaks will always continue, even if twitter suspends our account”. FBI is yet to issue a statement regarding the matter.

In the meantime, the website of continues to be under the control of LulzSec, and in a brilliant example of hacker entrepreneurship, is nothing more than one big adsense ad, which is probably under the control of a LulzSec's adsense account, thus  profiting from everyone who is curious enough to visit the site.


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Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:28 | 1340628 Conrad Murray
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More rum! All hail Xenu!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 17:18 | 1341847 Michael
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LULZ is a version of LOL on steroids. It kind of means for shits and giggles.

Learn all about Infraguard and Fusion centers on this episode of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory;




We should use the English translation of "Al-Qaeda" it's, "The Base".

I would love for Obama to declare war on Americans and pull the Internet kill switch. Google, Apple, and Microsoft stock prices would go to zero overnight.

The mainstream media lost control of the message to sell their version of alternate reality to the American people. We get the true version of reality from the Internet now and the ruling elite don't like it. That's the main reason they are trying to shut down the Internet. Most hack attacks are government inside jobs for reasons we are very aware of.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:46 | 1340641 Bansters-in-my-...
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Give the Fucking Big Idiots a taste of their own medicine,ya gotta love that.!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:52 | 1340644 Randoomed
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"declaration of war by Obama against the US"

I nearly lodged my Ricola in my sinus after reading that.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:55 | 1341050 Manthong
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As is clear from Libya, he doesn't need any declarations of war, as is clear from his record, he doesn't need any constitution or congress to continue his war (fundamental tranformation) on the US.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:53 | 1340645 halvord
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Awesome! If there's anything that needs to be destroyed from within, it is Infragard. "A Public-Private Partnership" to be corporate spies who report to the FBI. Every executive gets to wear a badge and be the agent they wanted to be. And spy on people and do real damage too, say, competitors by feeding false info. Kinda like selling your tribal enemies to the American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 02:37 | 1340696 Conrad Murray
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Another suspect operation:

The notorious military contractor formerly known as Blackwater along with intelligence operations program Able Danger has formed a new spy firm called Jellyfish Intelligence.

Xe Services LLC and Able Danger claim the Jellyfish Intelligence is a “law-abiding” firm, which aims to sell intelligence to wealthy corporations

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:59 | 1340648 TempFlashback
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Just 'donated' my two cents.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 01:07 | 1340655 TheGoodDoctor
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Admittedly, that would be a Keynesian wet dream: think of the record boost to GDP if Geithner literally nukes the west and eastern seaboards, only to rebuild them again...


Please Tyler, when will you start doing stand up? One of these days I too will shoot a liquid through my nose. On a side note, I'm starting to wonder if these "attacks" aren't just to take more control of the Internet by TPTB. What's next and Internet version of the Patriot Act?

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 02:34 | 1340709 Roaming Uranus ...
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I agree with the Good Doctor.  If it is an outside group hacking the FBI website (even though funny to some degree) only brings the harsh reality of a regime that will do anything to hold power, such as turning off the internet Dont shit yourself, it is coming!!!

Or, another inside job of creating a false flag against the US govt so that they can again take over and hold us down by shutting down the net.  Dont shit yourself, it is coming!!!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:20 | 1341489 Hook Line and S...
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Yep, another case of shooting yourself in the foot, for the sake of self-preservation.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 18:41 | 1341972 Xaqaria
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As inconvenient as it may seem, an internet shut down is exactly what would get the people who would otherwise prefer not to leave their comfort zones to stand up with the rest of us and demand real change.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 19:14 | 1341973 Xaqaria
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Sun, 06/05/2011 - 15:16 | 1341624 Problem Is
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"Please Tyler, when will you start doing stand up? One of these days I too will shoot a liquid through my nose."

Tyler Sacrasm Infused Comedy
I had to get one of those flat plastic sealed keyboards due to ZH nasal eject-o-coffee...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 01:12 | 1340659 MayIMommaDogFac...
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that would be a Keynesian wet dream: think of the record boost to GDP

You do seem to have your finger on their pulse, but it might be best if you did not give them any ideas.  They might...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 07:49 | 1340819 lilimarlene1
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Breaker, Breaker, 1-9.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 07:56 | 1340831 augie
Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:58 | 1341051 lilimarlene1
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appreciative burbling laughter and coffee spillage, I love Jackie Gleason and Burt Reynolds. What a combination. Too bad I never met any cops or state troopers who even remotely resembled either one.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 01:31 | 1340669 BlackholeDivestment
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 Infragard is Brown Shirt shit for sure. Exposed them all.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 01:32 | 1340670 Yen Cross
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 An interesting POST. You go this way/ and we go that way! Spelling is not part of the (DIALECT).

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:25 | 1341490 Hook Line and S...
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Ain't that true!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 01:33 | 1340673 Yen Cross
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  Lawyers are wall/mart (PiiGs). I challenge any one to ( DISPUTE my FACTS)

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 02:41 | 1340710 Roaming Uranus ...
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Yen Crossover, I question just about any BS that you type (especially talking about the small of a womens back and all that crap).  You know nothing. I figure you are sitting up there in the Santa Barbara area, all by yourself, playing with yourself, imagining that you actually had a life.  That is just my guess.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:14 | 1340993 StychoKiller
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Why don't you two get a room?  Perhaps there's a BDSM site ya both can visit...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:28 | 1341012 snowball777
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You took out time to 'figure' and 'guess' eh? For someone with such rectal fixation, you sure are concerned about how other people spend their spare time.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:35 | 1341020 snowball777
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Everyone hates lawyers...until they need one; they are the bridge between the common man and a legal system with enough sophistication to be moderately useful to society. 

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 22:10 | 1345656 GoinFawr
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'struth. Kinda like anarcho capitalists hate unionized firemen; who are the bridge between survival and being burned to death. Sophistication? I dunno, I haven't had GS take out insurance on my house yet (that I know of) so it hasn't caught fire.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 03:00 | 1340715 redpill
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer group of jackboot authoritarians.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 03:41 | 1340727 Tense INDIAN
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nifty counts rethink and forecast :::

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:14 | 1340740 Jasper M
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Two possibilites.

#1) They get away with it, indefinitely. Unlikely, but with the kind of budget cuts that are coming, not impossible. 

#2) A few of them get ID'd, arrested, prosecuted, and convicted. Just a few, the rest slip away. 

THAT's actually worse. Because, by the workings of a pretty well understood notion in criminology, if you can only catch a few perpetrators, to have any chance of deterent value, you must punish them proportionally more harshly than if caught them all. Think drug war. 

And then a portion the ones that got away will militarize. They will take their obvious skills (which may just be the abilty to realize the bad habits their opponents Just  Can't  Shake), which they have so far used for glorified vandalism . . . and they will weaponize them.

And that's trouble we've not seen. Obama's "smart grid" would be a thousand fatal catastrophes waiting to happen, in the sights of truly militant hackers. 

Well, I guess we'll see. I wish them luck. Anyone who occupies the FBI is okay with me. 

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 05:21 | 1340758 savagegoose
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they have computers on the internet now?

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 05:56 | 1340776 WhOracle
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I always felt like Lulzsec were a covert operation from the govt...  attacking entities so important that it would give the government a reason to pass on new laws and enslave us even more. Think of a digital 9/11...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:38 | 1341022 Oh regional Indian
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Spot on, in my opinion too whoracle.

too convenient, the timing, the targets (Lockheed Martin was it recently), China on th eGmail hack....

I think we have months at most on fora such as these.


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:56 | 1341046 WhOracle
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And don't forget Gates and the pentagon fretting about military response to cyberthreats. The word "terrorist" and its definition will apply to more and more of us, protesting won't be allowed.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:17 | 1341081 Oh regional Indian
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Yup, long list and more and more noise making. Even Stuxnet is a web-controlled product, imagine that being used as an excuse if some post-fukushima analysis brings out the convenient Stuxnet bugbear!


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:27 | 1341505 Hook Line and S...
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Perhaps we should now decide upon which websites, in order, that should become our new forums. Choosing of course to go for mainstream takeovers with the CNN web the first target, replete with endless ZH participants materializing like an itch that never goes away.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:18 | 1341083 John Rotten
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Good assessment.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 05:58 | 1340778 southsea13
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Just visited the website in question (let`s hope LulzSec do have an Adsense revenue going). What should be a website proclaiming just how `good` the company is now looks more like a promotional flyer for `all-you-can-eat` buffets. `Pulling the plug` on the internet is more or less impossible (probably the best that could be hoped for would be the raising of somewhat porous Great Firewalls of China in the USA - but these would no doubt have some Microsoft technology in the solution and would therefore be pretty vulnerable). 

Anyway, congrats to LulzSec. :)

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 07:48 | 1340828 lilimarlene1
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I see that lulzsec is Public Enemy #10 on the FBI hit parade per their (lulz) twitter feed...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 07:57 | 1340832 MonkeySmoke
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Sounds, to me, like LulzSec is just another CIA operation striking a blow to our personal freedoms and liberities. This is exactly the type of situation necessary in order to use the "internet kill switch", as was used in Eygpt. Or it could be the basis for widespread censorship, as is done in China. This group, while I fully support dissent, I question this particular situation, mocking the FBI on twitter (and the point is?), it is too convenient, just after the un-Patriot Act is renewed?

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:02 | 1340856 WhOracle
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Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:49 | 1341161 Hansel
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It's about impossible to know who is who in all this, but here are some links:

FUCK LULZSEC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -

Untitled -

and finally a comment from,

also there is this thing saying lulzsec is with the CIA. That must be the reason for them to provoke NATO so openly. they WANT cyberwar because it'd be a lot easier for them to create draconian legislation.

And here is the IRC log of the conversation with Karim

No one really knows what is going on except those involved.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:14 | 1340883 Zon
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Seriously, fuck you. Anything good that ever happens that strikes a blow against the dickheads and you guys always are out claiming it is a psyop. Seriously, fuck you.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:23 | 1340895 Isotope
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Which, unfortunately, is one of the intended effects of psyops and disinformation. Eventually it makes you question the validity of everything, creating confusion, inaction, and finally being resigned to your fate. Not able to offer a solution, just sayin.

Like the Joker said, "Who do ya trust?"

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:12 | 1340996 Confucious 222
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"Anything good that ever happens that strikes a blow against the dickheads and you guys always are out claiming it is a psyop."

So, are you 12 years old? You seem to be about 1/3 your way around the block for the first time.

Some of us have been around the block a few times already.


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:59 | 1341128 dark pools of soros
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have you followed lulzsec at all?? even lift a finger to read their twitter feed? can you even comprehend any of it?


around the block a few times and dead tired already ?


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:22 | 1341089 John Rotten
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Cue DHS...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 07:54 | 1340842 FrankIvy
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"Hacker" = "Guy who stole a password."


With today's technology, nobody busts in anymore unless you have a retardly short password or you don't take good care of that password.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:50 | 1340975 harlanaladd
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Or, if don't religiously apply security patches ASAP.  The Sony breach was occurred thanks to a large number of antique versions of Apache.  They just used old exploits and gained root access. Nothing more than half-assed system administration.  (Or at least that's what I've read).



Sun, 06/05/2011 - 15:53 | 1341708 southsea13
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LOL! If they couldn`t be arsed to do something as simple as applying patches, then they`ve only got themselves to blame.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 18:17 | 1341941 Dirt Rat
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LOL is right. The Apache server is not named for the Indians. It's so named because the entire system is one giant patch job, "a-patchy".

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:02 | 1341064 snowball777
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"Cracker" == "Guy who writes password cracking tools"

"ScriptKiddie" == "Guy who stole a password"

"Hacker" == "Guy who creates clever software solutions in operating systems that don't get cracked"


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:07 | 1341134 dark pools of soros
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the laziness on this board is showing that even if TPTB implode, new ones will easily pick up the scraps and rebuild before this crew can take their tin foil hats off..


you might want to keep an open mind on everything even if you have been burned 1000 times in a row since change can come in an instant and leave you behind just as fast


LulzSec is just doing what a lot of old hackers did in the 80's, back when their weren't any laws...  enjoy their technomirth while it exists. A rare bird these days that will be destroyed as soon as they misstep..



Sun, 06/05/2011 - 12:25 | 1341248 slewie the pi-rat
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luddite is lulzing lazily, here. 

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:32 | 1341510 Hook Line and S...
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Dr. Slewie Seuss!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:02 | 1340863 Fred C Dobbs
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about fucking time it seems to me.  

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:34 | 1340953 spanish inquisition
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"We wonder however whether this escalation of cyberwarfare against the US by the US will necessitate a declaration of war by Obama against the US."

Kind of makes you wonder what excuse or scenario will be used to "cross the Rubicon" in it's most literal sense. So far, I am betting on the idea of hiring Xe mercenaries to invade your own country. Only American mercinaries, because foreign mercinaries would be rude, later the ones that have cute accents can be hired. They will probably call them something clever like travel assistants and have them on every street corner.

It will be interesting if Obama and Holder are still at the helm (with support of Dems and Rep alike) and begin the final phase of selling Americans into slavery. One man's irony is another man's poetic justice (TM).

But if they dont get it done there will be an election for another one to take a crack at it (no diff if it is red or a blue)...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:55 | 1340978 sunnydays
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The U.S. government is probably doing it, just so they then can take control of the internet for cyber terror reasons.  It is a false flag operation, just to be able to shut down sites they don't want up and so on.  I believe it is the government itself doing this.


Just like 9/11 - false flag for control and clamp down.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:49 | 1341041 ParaZite
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They just did it for the Lulz...  :D

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 09:59 | 1341054 lilimarlene1
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Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:22 | 1341093 Atomizer
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Folks, this is all a dog & pony show for the central planners to implement new laws. Create a fabricated news story, create fear in the minds of internet user's, and execute new laws.

UN report: "three strikes" Internet laws violate human rights

UN Report:

52. When a cyber-attack can be attributed to the State, it clearly constitutes inter alia a

violation of its obligation to respect the right to freedom of opinion and expression.

Although determining the origin of cyber-attacks and the identity of the perpetrator is often

technically difficult, it should be noted that States have an obligation to protect individuals

against interference by third parties that undermines the enjoyment of the right to freedom

of opinion and expression. This positive obligation to protect entails that States must take

appropriate and effective measures to investigate actions taken by third parties, hold the

persons responsible to account, and adopt measures to prevent such recurrence in the future.


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:46 | 1341119 waterhorse
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If LulzSec is "real", I sincerely applaud their efforts against the oligarchs.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:41 | 1341171 Cursive
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Agreed and, whether "real" or not, this is just another sign that we will have more chaos, more anarchy.  This isn't the 1950's and we don't have the democracy/communist cold war black/white dichotomy world view anymore.  We have failed nation states (USSR ---> now "Russia") and failing nation states (USA, Japan) and unstable regions (EU/EMU, Middle East).  We have whole societies of people who cannot think independently or live without some form of government involvement or government assistance.  We are definitely living through a period of dramatic change to the human condition, perhaps no less dramatic than the fall of the Roman Empire and the start of the Middle Age or of the transition from Middle Age to the Enlightenment.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 12:59 | 1341326 dark pools of soros
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lulzsec is doing what early hackers did in the 80's but now everyone can quickly see the pranks.  in the 80's it was off the radar


two reasons they are able to sail are the emergence of bitcoin and cloudflare.  Those will be attacked, not lulzsec, since with those two items, other lulzsecs can set sail just as easily


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:33 | 1341376 Conrad Murray
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Arrrr, the kraken is released bitches. Even if/when bitcoin comes under heavy fire there is no stopping the idea now. Just as bittorent raped the entertainment goons and their copyright weaksauce, so shall cryptocurrency DSK the sovereign fiat maid. Long live cypherspace.

Another fun parallel is the gap between your average American debt slave who only yearns for a new episode of American Idol/Jersey Shore/NBA game, and the folks that spend their time hunting and collecting 0days and mastering SQL; it's a technological gini coefficient if you will. As our world becomes more and more digitized(online banking/transaction, mobile payments, etc), the brainless zombies stand no chance. There will be MANY more pirates on the oceans, not just for laughs, but because it will be even more profitable than it is now.

And on the political front, one could take the view that the disaffection among the masses over decreased living standards/increased authoritarianism will provide a backdrop of support for the outlaws against the entrenched dinosaurs of oppression. Interesting times ahead, no doubt.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 18:46 | 1341974 overbet
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companies could use their own custom language.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:48 | 1341121 Abitdodgie
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Here is a concept why doesn't everyone stop paying taxes and grow some balls ,after all they are voluntary anyway

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:31 | 1341167 Seasmoke
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Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:49 | 1341190 Real Estate Geek
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I feel like such a chump when I pay taxes.  They're just printing money, so why should they take my hard-earned cash? 

It'll probably just be spent remodeling some Wall Street douche's "cottage" in the Hamptons.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 15:56 | 1341716 southsea13
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That`s probably right. However, wilfully withholding taxes usually leads to a very nasty experience in the gulag system that passes as prison. Let`s hope that the douche in the Hamptons gets rumbled for insider trading and has the joys of incarceration to look forward to (yes, I`m a naive fool, but I live in hope (doubly naive)).

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 20:11 | 1342099 darkaeye
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Taxing the sheeple is the primary method in which government is able to declare perceived value to otherwise valueless state-produced counterfeit.

Sinister treachery to be sure!  Right up their with the indecent villiany that is state-induced inflation. 

It is a dark time for humanity indeed when failed nation states now resort to waging war against their own citizenry.

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 01:30 | 1342590 HungrySeagull
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What we are forced to do is earn money so low in total gross for the year that we pay zero. Yes there is taxes paid etc etc etc... essentially there is nothing much to go on except to living within your means and be happy.


Nuking both coasts will be a very bad day for us all. And  possibly a start of a new future.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 12:29 | 1341253 Uncle Remus
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Vee haf vays.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 12:56 | 1341307 blunderdog
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No worries about the gummit "locking down" the Internet.  They don't have the resources or competence to maintain the FUCKING FBI website, and people think they're going to pass and enforce a law that's going to "control" everything?


Government power exists mainly in your mind.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:04 | 1341337 dark pools of soros
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they will attack bitcoin and cloudflare usage at somepoint..  both of those allow freedom outside of the control you mention


remember all the hubris with paypal and wikileaks?? or earlier paypal wonders for online gambling? then the crackdown?


bitcoin has thrown paypal into the dustbin



Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:18 | 1341372 blunderdog
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It "costs" more in resources to police these operations (or shut them down, or imprison their creators, or whatever) than it does for some other asshole to bring a replacement online.  The theory might be that you can create deterrence by "making an example," but the most important social forces on the Internet don't exactly brim with respect for authority.

Dinosaurs couldn't compete with rodents.  Same thing here.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 16:27 | 1341774 slewie the pi-rat
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hey, b_dogg!  appreciate the rodent rah-rah!

so, be careful w/ that whack-a-mole...jeeeeeZ!  lol!

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 16:35 | 1341796 blunderdog
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Here in NYC, most of my neighbors hate the rats.

I've always been a big fan.  They've been doing more good for us than the yuppies and the crack-dealers.

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 22:10 | 1345668 GoinFawr
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Hmm, except for these ones

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:12 | 1341357 BernankeHasHemo...
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Obama is nothing more than a Brown Shirt wannabe. That Muslim criminal is a complete disgrace.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:48 | 1341567 BigJim
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Sigh. He's a muslim, is he? What, he prays to Mecca 5 times a day? Ships sophisticated weapons to the Palestinians so they can fight back against Israel? Withdrawn from muslim countries like Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen?

He's as Muslim as Netanyahu.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 15:46 | 1341688 Conrad Murray
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All you need to know about Barack Hussein Obama's "religion"

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 16:54 | 1341826 BigJim
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The ironic thing is, Rev. Wright is clearly (at least) 75% European.

I doubt Obama hates Whites, particularly. At least not in the sense that he likes Blacks more.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:13 | 1341360 BernankeHasHemo...
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Eventually Obama is going to get the bullet with his name on it that he so richly deserves.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:57 | 1341587 BigJim
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There are a thousand Obamas/Clintons/Bushes/McCains ready to take his place. The only way to change the system is to educate the electorate so they stop electing these empty suits in the first place. Shooting the current puppet would make no difference to how the world is run.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 22:33 | 1342323 BernankeHasHemo...
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I have no faith in the "electorate". They get what they deserve. Eventually if you get a couple of million of them armed with their AKs and nothing to lose, things will happen. Not soon enough though.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 13:51 | 1341396 Use of Weapons
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#OpESR was never a hacker collective - it was a tribble farm, deliberately set up, but given some nice tidbits, info and esprit de corps. The owners were media whores, looking for some Anon PR... and you can 100% guarentee that the 700 odd members all got fingered. Especially the more socially networking ones, but hey - read the warnings on the tin. Some Anonymous even had hissy fits over the newfagness of the entire site, and moralfaggotry attached - they then went and had a drama queen IRC fallout over domain ownership, so +9000 irony. *shrug*

The point of it was clear - if you read carefully, and between the lines, it lead other places: it was also safe in that anything going on there was in no danger of anything radical enough to lead to time, which was the opposite approach to LOIC, which did incur some 10-15 yr olds' parents getting naughty letters. Also, youngsters need a bit more than pure /b/ all the time.

If you're looking for 'hackers', Maltego 3 is out soon [] and all the peeps are wetting themselves over it. Of course, LulzSec is out there - what it is, only they know at this time... yaaaar. Might want to read the logs from the "whitehats" helping the Gov. out though - ethically challenged.

The idea that the CIA are good at hacking, when there's its the NSA who handle the MIT geniuses, is a bit weird. But anyhow.


Disclaimer: fully aware of the irony and humour attached to code Geeks realising that social relations get you secrets faster than code, most of the time. Oh - and I'd suspect that anyone on here is getting mined as we speak.




OpESR isn't what you think it is.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 15:00 | 1341593 BigJim
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Admittedly, that would be a Keynesian wet dream: think of the record boost to GDP if Geithner literally nukes the west and eastern seaboards, only to rebuild them again...

Ah, the famous melted window fallacy.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 15:09 | 1341598 Problem Is
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Operation Empire State Rebellion & LulzSec
How Project Mayhem-ee of them...

I would like to report the FBI, CIA, NSA-Google, Homeland Insecurity (US Schutzstaffel) and TSA...

For Domestic Terrorism...

InfraGard: See something say something, bitchez...

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 18:11 | 1341931 overbet
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All these hacking stories lately are to justify an emergency takeover of the internet by the US governmnet. Trade accordingly its coming.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 18:28 | 1341954 overbet
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When Goldman Sachs alerted the FBI to the theft of this code they complained, "If our code gets into the wrong hands they could use it to manipulate the markets."

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 21:21 | 1342207 captain.decent
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The website is registered to Adrian Lamo.  He is the man said to have ratted out Bradley Manning, the Wikileaks source.






   Domain Name:


   Registrant Contact:

      Adrian Lamo

      LulzSec LLC

      108 WEST 13TH STREET

      Wilmington, Delaware 19801-1145




   Administrative Contact:

      Adrian Lamo

      LulzSec LLC

      108 WEST 13TH STREET

      Wilmington, Delaware 19801-1145




   Technical Contact:

      Adrian Lamo

      LulzSec LLC

      108 WEST 13TH STREET

      Wilmington, Delaware 19801-1145




   Billing Contact:

      Adrian Lamo

      LulzSec LLC

      108 WEST 13TH STREET

      Wilmington, Delaware 19801-1145




Mon, 06/06/2011 - 00:25 | 1342494 dark pools of soros
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the plot thickens.. are we seeing more CIA vs FBI in recruiting cybercriminals and the blowback??

 OR..  lulzsec trolling the trolls?  it seems they have lots of 'private' channels that they feed and that registration was 5/30 so probably just changed to Lamos for lulz

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