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Pentagon Can't Explain "Missile" Sighting, NORAD Believes It Is Not A Foreign Military Object
A crazy day in the markets closes, and one of the biggest non-market related stories still has no closure. As per the AP, nobody still has any clue what the "missile" sighting was. A suggestion being floated by the Pentagon is that this may have been a "private company." NORAD chimes in: "We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation, and from all indications this was not a launch by a foreign military." In other words, nobody knows nothing.
From AP:
Washington (AP) -- The Pentagon said Tuesday it was trying to determine if a missile was launched Monday off the coast of Southern California and, if so, who might have fired it.
Spokesmen for the Navy, Air Force, and other military organizations said they were looking into a video posted on the CBS News website that shows an object shooting across the sky and leaving a large contrail, or vapor trail, over the Pacific Ocean.
The video was shot by a KCBS helicopter, the station said Tuesday.
"Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said.
Lapan said that "all indications" are that the Department of Defense was not involved within the mystery object, and that the contrail might have been created by something flown by a private company.
Normally any missile test would require notification so that mariners and pilots could be warned or air space closed, but that may not have been done in this case, Lapan said.
"It does seem implausible, and that's why at this point the operative term is 'unexplained'," he said. "Nobody ... within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is."
Missile tests are common off Southern California. Launches are conducted from vessels and platforms on an ocean range west of Point Mugu.
The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, issued a statement jointly with the U.S. Northern Command, or NORTHCOM, saying that the contrail was not the result of a foreign military launching a missile. It provided no further details.
"We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation, and from all indications this was not a launch by a foreign military," the statement said. "We will provide more information as it becomes available."
NORTHCOM is the U.S. defense command and NORAD is a U.S.-Canadian organization charged with protecting the U.S.
from the threat of missiles or hostile aircraft.
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so....there's a place the budget can get cut....all these hundreds of billions for "defense".....and they can't identify a missile shot off just off shore.....
right.
this is bullshit because in the original video, there is what looks like a US Navy Sea Knight passing along the comtrail.
and we're supposed to believe they dont know anything?
Regardless of what is up, we can definitely conclude that the claim that they don't know anything is complete and utter bullshit.
Oh say can you see, the false flag flying free...
OK, gonna random it here....
- Major solar storms throughout the week
- My GPS this weekend said I was driving in the Gulf of Mexico
- Daylight savings time
Possible f'd up missile guidance/communications?
Private company my ass, its probably the private entity called the Federal Reserve trying to light up all asset prices to the moon....and back.
You mean Bernank-ster has given up dropping Bennie-Bucks from Copters and now he is going Rocket US Dollar drops???
Bennie B. As -- Rocket Man:
"And all this science I don't understand,
It's just my job five days a week..."
"A rocket man-an-a-ann, a rocket man,
Rocket man burning out my fuse up
here alone..."
saw this out my window. just another chemtrail. move along. nothing to see here.
Boy, I really hope not. If solar storms can cause random launchings, we're really screwwwwed...
I'm wondering if it was a wargame to test our sea/air detection system (Scenario: Rogue NK sub sneaks w/in range of LA, if successful launches missile).
If so, then they got the shot off, and we lost. Not good.
I'm wondering if it was a wargame to test our sea/air detection system (Scenario: Rogue NK sub sneaks w/in range of LA, if successful launches missile).
This is the most plausible in my book.
OK, so if it is a missile, then where did it land?!
Could have been an orbital launch. US launching a spy satellite ... or, worse, China doing the same.
NORAD spokesman, Sgt. Hans Schultz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
North Korea doesn't operate any submarines capable of launching missiles.
Fine.
China, then.
You know the fat finger guy from wallstreet a few months ago?....
I think I know what his new job is...
You mean Waddell & Reed launched the missile? Maybe they want to bomb Bill Gross in Newport Beach...
Obviously, the underwater blob from last June is showing its dissatisfaction with our loose monetary policy.
I was wondering about Waddell and Reed....
I took me a second to remember where I had seen your avatar pic before.
http://order.ph.utexas.edu/
Right on, man. The Belousov-Zhabotinsky chemical oscillator changed everything for me, which got the ball rolling on much more interesting investigations.
Helpin' China give us the finger?
It could also be that Obama's kids have been playing with the red phone...
Home alone you know...
Prank calls, who didn't do that when he was young?
Actually, they're with Obamao.
Enough with the conspiracy theories! This was an AIRBUS A380 with a bad Rolls Royce Engine on fire, and sent the plane into the stratosphere! Can't you SEE??!
The US launched the missile and acted dumb because they wanted the Chinese to think that the US really thought that the Chinese launched the missile because if the Chinese thought that the US thought that the Chinese launched the missile then China would get the message that they might be getting their asses handed to them soon even though they knew that they didn't launch the missile but they can't really be sure who launched the missile with Obama out of the country and conflicting statements from Norad, the Pentagon and the Navy nobody really knows anymore who launched the missile and both the Chinese and the US are throwing their hands in the air and screaming: Who launched the fucking missile?
Okay everyone, this guy's got it figured out.
haha
Coug, check the maps, tell me where you think down range is?
Who cares where it came from, look at where it was going. India is a a stretch but a "shot across the bow" gets the attention.
I don't know that anyone has the data to plot the ranging, you'd need the fire duration and angle and the surface track, and even with all that you still might need to know the ordinance type. NORAD has everything of course (except maybe the hardware profile, but their radar is teh hotness so I wouldn't put it past them) but only 5 people will ever see that data.
My guess it was headed a short distance over deep water, and then into the sea. It would set off fewer early warning systems that way. Short burn and splash. Then wait and see what happens. Gloat, if that's your thing. I mean, this was brilliant. Right under the nose of the Pacific Fleet. Daaaamn.
Amerika. Keeping its sheeple terrified through effective propaganda since 09/11.
And now some fuckwad on the news from somewhere in the gubamint is saying it was a plane, while another described the video as of a contrail. (Oh come on! How about a little purient imagination, at least a Chemtrail for Christ's sake. Bureaucratic dry wit, no doubt.)
Well fuck me. I know a missile plume when I see it.
Look mum, it's a bird, it's a plane, no it's Oceana terrorizing its own kind. (h/t G. Orwell)
(Imagining soft whimpering sounds, but experiencing awe. Simple awe. A fucking ballistic missile launched 35 miles off of the California coastline, in US territorial waters, and nobody has a clue? This is an example folks of one completely broken, dysfunctional, likely irreparable, non-credible central system.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M
It was an AIRBUS A380 with engine failure... or so says the gubmint
Classic..., rotflmao
At least I have had a few minutes to laugh and forget about the trouncing handed to me today.
Ever meet yourself coming around a corner? :>D
Yeah, I saw that helo too. It did look like a Sea Knight.
Hard to say. Between the camera, and where that bad boy went up lies the flight path to LAX from the northern routes. The turn left and parallel PCH for a bit. Very possibly a commercial plane on that approach.
There are the Nike Missile towers in the Santa Monica's. Maybe one of the missiles was forgotten.
Saw that also. Back in 1998, when navy planes were accused of trailing passenger planes along the east coast, I was on a flight to the Caribbean when I witnessed a navy jet whiz right by my window. While I left the plane, I asked the captain if a military jet buzzed us and he said I didnt see what I saw. Bottom line. We all know what it was and do not believe the government will tell us.
?San Nicolas Naval Facility? is where this launch originated, it's a top-secret Naval facility. I'm not confirming the top secret nature of this facility, that would be a violation of law to which I am bound as a formal naval avionics officer that may, or may not have happened to have been stationed at this same facility in a former life.
Google it, short story about the facility here.
Honestly, I always scratched my head why we'd place such an important test facility (or maybe it's just a desert island) so close to a massive population center -- and NOT expect reports like this to raise undesired attention.
Trust Matters, maybe we can help
Thank you, Sir/Ma'am. I will sleep a little better tonight knowing about this possible explanation..
Duplicate
I think the message is:
Spend more on defense...
I could swear I read this post before... just can't get my finger on it....
It's as if someone is trying to send you a message...
There is a great novel entitled called "One Second After" which recounts the life of a man, his, family, and town, following an EMP attack on the U.S. At the end of the book after much starvation and a bloodshed climax that made Mad Max tame...I mean Iwo Jima type stuff..an army contingent from overseas passes through town, and they explain to them that the EMP attack was launched suddenly, from container ships parked just off shore along our coasts.
As to EMP, this idea doesn't come from the Matrix, but is a well known effect of a nuclear blast occuring in the high atmosphere, or much worse, in space. Almost no military equipment we have is immune to it, and nothing with a microchip would likely function again, including almost every damn modern gizmo we have, from car engine controls to...harvesting equipment controls.
So, who would want to fire a shot across the bow of the U.S. right now, without actually doing the deed?
The premise of the novel holds that a good 10% of the population would be dead inside of weeks(people dependent on various drugs and modern conditions), and some 70-90% would be dead within a year, from starvation, disease, cannabalism, and so forth. This is unfortunately plausible.
To my point of view the only powers that would finance such a thing would be dead-enders or non-state actors, because the U.S. ballistic submarine capabilities would remain intact. Sea Water makes a pretty good Faraday cage at most frequencies that matter to protect against EMP. That is a whole lotta hellfire down there.
Thank god I have an uinderground Lair.
That would be your parents basement....
Nope, your grandmother's snatch.
Kinda musty, but it'll do in a pinch.
And if it is still like last time, can handle a few more at the same time.
Sudden Debt, you junked us? If you dont believe us, ask your mom, she was there!!
Pinch? It certainly does.
you naaaaaasty, yo!
ahhh, i see
sort of an anti-neutron bomb...
As for cannibals, they aren't much of a threat because they're always lone wolves. They get fed up with other people. (groans)
Seriously, what can you do with a cannibal? You can't befriend him. You can't ask him to dinner. Does it end in a de facto mercy killing every time?
In the novel, the cannibal types got organized into armed bands and survived that way, killing and eating other people as they roved from town to town. The final big thing in the story was a giant desperate battle between the remaining residents of one small town and an army of cannibals marching on their town. The town could see them coming because one guy in the town had an original condition airplane from the 50' or whenever, that had no transistors and such in it. They had a heads up, and they had rough around them and limited access in and out, just a few roads through narrow valleys. Anyone out in open country was eaten if they ran into these bands.
All joking aside, this is scary shit. I agree that, however remote the possibility that we'll see bands of cannibals roaming the countryside, the potential for such circumstances has probably never been greater. That is at least true within my lifetime. Book of Eli..no thank you.
Cyanide tablets for the stalemate...
Gubbermint cheese will save the day. We must have a solid decade worth by now.
Book of Eli was puppy shit. You need to watch The Road with Viggo Mortensen.
Or read the book by Cormac McCarthy - both were excellent though. One of the few times I've liked the movie as much as I liked the book.
+1 "One Second After" is a great book, must read for prepers.
Great literary stuff, but retarded as to the practical content.
Anybody whose main activity it is to push a =shopping cart=, the kind with the tiny little wheels, along detritus strewn highways for months on end, will be relieved to find out they are merely characters in a particularly dark character driven book, not real people.
With the kind of level of die off that novel implies has occured, some years before the events of the story, there would be ready access to carts having large, practical wheels. For example. Nevermind the notion that every living thing but humans was dead in the story. Sorry, life is more robust than that, and as such anything that killed everything else would have easily killed all humans long before, and especially the characters of the novel.
...Anybody else see the inherent problem in a "band of cannibals"?
eat me.
too funny.
Fine Young _____s
Yeah... they won't have any ketchup.
recruitment?
Democracy has been described as "Five wolves and a sheep, sitting around a table discussing what's for dinner." Seems to me that the logical progression to night 2 is "Five wolves, sitting around a table.....". aka a band of cannibals.
Ever see the movie, "The Road,"? They weren't all lone wolves there. Pretty scary, but implausible as well. The movie predicated that the weather had changed dramatically all of a sudden, throughout Earth, and that all flora had died, and virtually all fauna as well. Apparently, electricity, etc. died at the same time, from some unexplained source.
The only event that could possibly explain all the forces at work in the movie would be a dramatic pole shift subsequent to a really severe sun flare, aligned with a huge EMP; these three could happen contemporaneously.
If that ever happens, I sincerely hope I'm already in my dirt bed, and so are my nearest and dearest.
Both the book and the movie depict a scene where The Man awakes in the middle of the night at the Beginning of the apocalyptic fun, where the wife hasn't yet delivered The Boy, and there are these horrible series of flashes in the distance and loud "whump" sounds accompanying them. The Man immediately begins pouring a tub full of water, as if he knows precisely what to expect from that(impeding permanent end of potable water pressure). To me the implication was nuclear strikes on surrounding population centers or somesuch, whereas they were in some far-ish suburbs.
That book is f'n SCARY.
The only scenerio worse than a full-on EMP is a large asteroid or the Yellowstone Caldera blowing up.
The only problem with EMP is retaliatory strike. Military systems are hardened, and as you noted, seawater makes a pretty good Faraday cage anyway (and we still have a lot of subs).
In the novel "One Second After" it is explained that several launches were detected from off shore of the U.S.. close-in, from container ships or somesuch. This was all NORAD or whoever knew before their systems permanantly stopped functioning. The U.S. then assumed a non-state actor was involved, and comprehensively nuked every =possible= such actor that didn't have its own nuclear retaliatory capability. I.E. whoever launched it, most of the arab cities got glassed as a result, but not China or Russia. They became superpowers out of the deal, the EMP not having hit them. Mexico didn't get it bad either, and so took advantage accordingly. 80 to 90% of the U.S. population died inside one year.
Keep in mind the premise was EMP attack launched from close off shore.
Suddenly I realize I live in Eden. The government's been allowing us short five to ten minute bursts of internet, hopefully coinciding with the times we have electricity. Take it all away and I'll miss my email and ZeroHedge, but little else will change. I don't use phones much, and I pick fruit off of the tree. Many of the transport vehicles are WWII surplus, so they're carb and not fancy electronic fuel injectors. In a pinch, there's still plenty of ox carts on the roads. Never thought we are Darwin's Fittest.
Awesome Chindit.
Kind of similar for me here. I've lived without a refrigerator, spotty power and dial up and an awesome, cheap, carbed Peugot for the past year.
I feel so ready!
:-)
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Only statement I would disagree with is that military equipment is not sheltered against EMP. Wrong. Every piece of military equipment must be tested against an EMP burst. I have been to the test site while testing was going on. Believe me, if is less than 20 years old, its hardened.
You are absolutely correct. I worked on the black boxes(most were actually gray) that were in the F-18 and every one was a ferriday cadge and all the cable connections were filtered up the wazo. The ruber gaskets even had condutors in them to keep out radio wave interference.
Did they work though? My reading on the Trestle testing that was done in the 80's was that nothing survived. Air Force One was equipped at great expense with redundant systems, not protected ones. Whatever was operating during an EMP would be destroyed, then the spare put into operation post facto.
OK, here's a guy that sounds like he knows what he is talking about. Kind of goes in your direction of impacts not being nearly as bad as in One Second After:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2009-04/001133.html
An identical situation happened off the coast of California when I lived out west probably around 2000. The missile launched at about 1 am and lit up the sky. The military denied all knowledge of it, and then weeks later, the pentagon released a statement that a 'climate monitoring' satellite had been launch. This was definitely one of ours, we just aren't saying why yet. Might be a great story intended to grab headlines from all the QE2 related fervor.
So, while our President (whatever you think of him) is overseas in Asia meeting w/ our primary creditor (whom we are attempting to default on), a major foe of our primary creditor (India) and heading to S. Korea still w/ 30k troops...we decide this is a good time to show them what they already know very well...that we have nukes???
Can't imagine we would take this timing to make this statement unless things have gone "that far" and war, yes war, is the next step. Really, war???
Seems like we'd be jumping from dog dare straight to triple dog dare? This one time I half believe it wasn't us...at least not intentionally from a state level. I'd be more incliclined to believe in a rogue sub commander or CIA taking charge!
agreed. seems to me precious metals ought to rise in the event of unauthorized & unexplained ICBM launches taking the entire world to DEFCON 5... the world teeters on the brink of the abyss.
One thing that did not rise was the criticism of Blackhawk Ben and QE2...... which was getting to a feverish level yesterday. While the world is distracted by a show of military omnipotence, the real destruction of our global fiat currency system is no longer on the news.
Better study up on DEFCON, SGT.
Seargeant in what, the irregulars?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON ... but you knew that, right?
Defcon 1 is the highest state of readiness, 5 being the lowest.
things have gotten that far - only children would believe otherwise. Madmen run the world now.
Come on, guys.
The moment the missile went up, the US air force and navy would have been SWARMING around the launch area.. if they hadn't known already who was doing it.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_16455649?nclick_check=1
Protest of navy training exercises off of california coast.
This is totally blown out of context.
Just wait tomorrow they will come out and say it was just a weather balloon and everyone is having a case of mass hysteria.
so i wasted some minutes today, first I called both my senators, both the LA offices and their DC offices, asking them or rather their phone people (who all sounded deathly bored), what the freak is going on with what seemd like a submarine ballistic missile launch 35 miles off the cost of Los Angeles. None of the people I spoke to today except one knew what the heck I was talking about. So I made more calls. I called both the majority and minority lines of the senate armed forces and the foreign relations committees and no one except a bright young lady at the armed orces commitee, knew about this story. She mentioned she had just read about it on zh. I told her that in speaking with a half dozen people, she was the most on-point and smartest person I had come across today. Really brightened up her day and I quickly hung up and called the Dod. Very nice people. They transferred me to NORAD/NORTHCOM public or media communications. Here things got a little funny. Again, I get a great guy who answered the phone on speaker at first. I thought that was kind of funny. 2 things truck me about the call. I pretended to be a reporter so they would talk to me, I made up "the matador daily" and said I was a staff reporter. The first thing this gent told me was that I should forget that it was a missile launch. "let me stop you right there because we don't; you don't know what it was" . I said but from your statements it sounds like you're saying that nothing is happening go back to sleep. He repeated the exact line that NORAD had put out that from all "indications" it was not ours and was not from a foreign country, it may have been a commercial deal and still not sure if it was sub or surface launched (he did confirm one thing, that it was not plane contrails, when I mentioned that he laughed it off and said that is ridiculous and I agreed). I asked how they could tell? can they tell from launch signatures or what? he said he could not go into that. Still he was very friendly and patient. I said : "you say from all indications", "do you mean from all sensory indications or has the state dept told you guys and confirmed that other countries have denied that it was not them, do you have that kind of indication?" Here, he equivated a bit and repeated that the "homeland" (I HATE THAT WORD!) was not in any threat, saying we would know if it was other countries because we have ways to detect that. I said wait, but youre making a huge assumption here that you are aware of all the methods that other countries have and that you can detect them,isnt that huge asumption? I could hear him smile and he said some repeated line. To which I finally said: "ok well, i'm pretty sure if this event had happened off of the eastern seaboard, 35 off the coast of nyc, dc or langley, pretty much red alert defcon one would be called and it would be all over the news", he said" listen if there is one thing I want you to take away from this conversation is that we are not taking this seriously, this is absolutely a big deal and we will issue a more conclusive statement when we know more, but we're definitely on top of it". I thanked him and hung up and called the state dept. Here is why I had to fake being a "reporter" because I was surpirsed that Dod transferred me immediately to NORAD/NORTHCOM, usually they, like state as for your contact info and call you back after checking out creds. So at state they I asked if - oh I almost forgot, first I called the china dest at state LOL! some bored kid answered and I asked him if he'd heard of the missile launch and did he know if the chinese had "indicated" a denail, that it was not theirs. He totally stammered out of sleep and put me on hold. Came back and asked for my info and said would call me back, so I thanked him and called the state medi desk and there it ended.
off topic but here is the other thing I did today. Called the treasury, bureau of engraving on their sales line and pretended I wanted to buy some frns. What struck me about this call, I spoke to 3 people, was that I purposely asked "I'm interested in buying some federal reseve notes with the treasury secretary's signature on them. Now, if I say federal reseve notes to 99% of people in my life, including some academics, they will blink repeatedly and look at me quizzically. FRN? what's that? usually you have to explain " I mean, dollars, money, bills etc", but here at the treasury, the folks I spoke to knew fully what I was talking about and did not even skip a beat, they know what theyre selling that's for sure. It's not "money" in the colloquial sense of the word, to them it is exactly what it says it is, papers we call notes and use as money. I thought this was interesting. Anyway, to make a long post short, I asked on which bills can i find the signature of timmay and was told only on the one doelar bills. I said well Im interested in higher denominations, she said he is not on any other bills. I asked for 100 doelar bills and she said the fed has instructed them not to sell any 100 bills but that they would resume at some future date. She said she had not seen, which I presumed meant she had not sold, 100 notes in some 2 years!
so that's what I did today. It was more fun that yelling at the kids answering my congress-whore's phone. Boy that was fun stuff. If it's solar storms causing erratic missile launches, then wholly shit. Though I remember 5 years ago a couple of nuke tipped cruise missiles being transported across the country from ohio to louisiana aboard a stratofortress and in doing so breaking innumerable redundencies, procedures and by-laws. That was called a mistake and quickly swept under the rug. I also seem to recall reading that some of the whistlblowers or airmen or ground crews from that incident meeting untimely demises.
so there you go.
For real.
excellent work mate. i've been pondering about the no timmy note mystery for quite some time. you gotta start recording your conversations. sounds like they would be a hoot to listen to.
WOW, what an exciting day! Perhaps tomorrow you can try to get in touch with Richard Heene of balloon boy fame.
@UpShotKnotHoleGrable. Thank you.
Hmmm, a mystery something, that much is certain.
Around sunset … yah, definitely a show of some kind.
Awesome work upshot. Did you try Richard Branson? I bet he knows
exciting? eh, no, funner than shit, ? yes! so...folks, i'm old and i just graduateted with a useless major, can you all tell im unemployed and very very very bored. if anyone wants to partner up on some farm land , ill do all the labor. hit me up.
im dead serious i got at least 25 years of HARD labor left in me. you got the cash, i got the back. let's hedge.
How about this is just another bullshit distraction from the record high metal prices and QE2 getting slammed by every man and his dog ect.
I'm not saying this doesn't deserve attention, it definatley does. But the most likely explanation in my opinion is that this whole scenario was designed as a decoy issue.
The only reason this is even being discussed is because it was recorded, by chance. Most of the missile tests off the coast of LA just leave weird vapor trails in the sky and very little conversation about them. This launch may be used as a disctraction today, but you would be hard-pressed to prove that it was designed as a decoy issue. You wouldn't even know it had happened if the traffic copter hadn't recorded it.
I dunno... is launching an unexplained missile really the best way to put people off buying gold?
I'd think it would up the fear factor.
If they don't know what it was or who is behind it -- how can they possibly say that it was not a foreign nation? Oh that's right if it was Iran or North Korea they would call and let us know - yea right. I call bullshit, they either know or they don't know.
Nothing to see here, move along...
Mayhaps this can shed a little light on the topic….
Coincidence?
Have at it Conspiracy Theorists….
Within the Notice to Mariners, number 45, 6 November 2010
Published weekly by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency in conjunction with the US Coast Guard and National Ocean Service,
reference section III-1.7 note 434/10 (18) notification of
“INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. 0400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY”
http://164.214.12.45/MSISiteContent/StaticFiles/NAV_PUBS/UNTM/201045/NtM...
copied therefrom;
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S
Messages in force 281230Z October 2010:
2010 series 424(18) 431(GEN) 434(18)
403(19) 430(19) 433(19) 435(18,83)
NM 45/10 SECTION III
III-1.8
SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE
If it quacks like a duck...
your dog swallowed a whistle?
UFO?
+100
well by definition ...
Godzilla with one "l" and not capitalized! Heresy!
YOU MEAN A USO?!!! There héeeere....
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCYQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liveleak.com%2Fview%3Fi%3Dbff_1191018884&ei=U8TZTO3oLYSeOuHQpfII&usg=AFQjCNHaIwZF_Z8h8ttfsgCIkzf5bVlOPw
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCwQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTUt6qtgJaVY&ei=U8TZTO3oLYSeOuHQpfII&usg=AFQjCNEL1d1HMRgrOp8OpLEF7a4hI5NOtw
This story was huge in the market today, if you ask me.
That no one knows a thing is perfect support for the idea of cutting half of everything in DC.
Good grief.
UFMO
Unidentified Foreign Military Object.
Ya learn something new every day here on ZH. Book that one Dano.
Unidentified Waddle & Reed Event, those guys will never learn!
Hahaha
IF you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$#!t!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
egg fcuking xactly! and i love that guy walt and ezra 2!
1) they know precisely what that was, and they're just not saying
or
2) they don't know
neither one of those really gives me a warm fuzzy
+ICBM
The lack of immediate response says it all. They know better than leave us with our imaginations...
Nothing to see here...please disperse...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjK2Oqrgic
dup post.
neither one of those really gives me a warm fuzzy
mission accomplished.
u must be so scared and afraid. i bet ur willing to give up some of ur rights, just to be safe and secure agiain.
I don't know. Not this time. This is too big.
We're being tooled. Yeah, I'm look'n at you China.
I live in SoCal, very close to this event. I can see China out my window.
Yeah well if you can see China, go over and tell them this shit ain't funny.
Very strange. From a PR perspective, saying that you can't identify a missle off the coast is just as terrifying to the populace as saying it's a foreign missile.
If it really was our own, they would own up to it to quell panic, but they seem unable to do that.
So then it must have been someone elses, but if so, how could they be so blase about it?
Very strange.
Weather balloon doncha know....
Exactly .... this is just incredible. We are living in very interesting times...
They certainly seem able to be very blase about everything. Why change now?
They are counting on our conditioning to kick in.
Most Americans have become infantile to the point of being reckless. If the government says "We don't know, but don't worry about it" then most people simply will not worry about it. The entire country is recently run on that exact sort of response.
If I was living in LA, I'd be worried. Hella worried. And I'd want out.
"If I was living in LA... I'd want out."
Me too, but then I've always felt that way about LA.
I set em up and you knock em out of the park.
wrd
C_W your use of the word infantile made me think this was the proper place for my deep thought...
Perhaps it was just HarryWanger shaving his crotch and it went off prematurely....
Back under my rock, CB
Yes. Why didn't the Pentagon (or local mil base) simply say that "classified" testing was going on.
Perhaps this is a new form of "diplomacy" going on. Yikes.
Diplomacy in air-quotes is just another kind of war.
Hey, maybe we won't need QE3 after all.
That's exactly what is puzzling me - the PR perspective. Even if they don't know whose it is I would expect them to lie about it. Unless ... it is another gambit (like the non-exploding ink cartridge fiction) to keep the plebs in a state of anxiety and distracted (and no I'm not wearing my tinfoil hat).
Quell panic? Now why would they want to do that?
Since we're all guessing here, why not a foreign sub tasked with (a) penetrating SOSUS undetected, (b) firing a missile, (c) leaving and returning home undetected.
If (a) and (b) have been done, then we're searching pretty damn hard, now. Will be interesting to see in a few weeks or months whether anyone on the search team spills the beans about frantic activity.
My first thought, also.
My second thought was that, perhaps, somebody wants a new contract for an attack sub. Could they be that bold?
No, I'll stick with my first. Everything points to that.
they may know "precisely what that was" - or not, as you suggested - but either way, "national security" is always the cloak to hide behind. . . they're "allowed" to lie when that line is pulled out of the bag o' tricks. . .
not sure why folks here - who can "see behind the curtain" of money & stock manipulation - would expect truth and transparency in other areas?
expect more of the same smoke 'n' mirrors 'n' mistruths as the days unfold, I know I (always) do.
Ben returning to his home planet now that ours is set for self-destruct?
LMAO
LMAO + 2
Post of the day and possibly the week.
LMAOPRIZZ
Beat me to it - I was going to go w/ Pelosi though...
Why not John Boner?
+1
Beat me to it - I was going to go w/ Pelosi though...
How 'bout Corker?
+2
Beat me to it - I was going to go w/ Pelosi though...
McCain?
Sorry for multiple posts...
Palin?
Quite a volley you had there.
You da 'coon.