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Pentagon Can't Explain "Missile" Sighting, NORAD Believes It Is Not A Foreign Military Object
A crazy day in the markets closes, and one of the biggest non-market related stories still has no closure. As per the AP, nobody still has any clue what the "missile" sighting was. A suggestion being floated by the Pentagon is that this may have been a "private company." NORAD chimes in: "We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation, and from all indications this was not a launch by a foreign military." In other words, nobody knows nothing.
From AP:
Washington (AP) -- The Pentagon said Tuesday it was trying to determine if a missile was launched Monday off the coast of Southern California and, if so, who might have fired it.
Spokesmen for the Navy, Air Force, and other military organizations said they were looking into a video posted on the CBS News website that shows an object shooting across the sky and leaving a large contrail, or vapor trail, over the Pacific Ocean.
The video was shot by a KCBS helicopter, the station said Tuesday.
"Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said.
Lapan said that "all indications" are that the Department of Defense was not involved within the mystery object, and that the contrail might have been created by something flown by a private company.
Normally any missile test would require notification so that mariners and pilots could be warned or air space closed, but that may not have been done in this case, Lapan said.
"It does seem implausible, and that's why at this point the operative term is 'unexplained'," he said. "Nobody ... within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is."
Missile tests are common off Southern California. Launches are conducted from vessels and platforms on an ocean range west of Point Mugu.
The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, issued a statement jointly with the U.S. Northern Command, or NORTHCOM, saying that the contrail was not the result of a foreign military launching a missile. It provided no further details.
"We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation, and from all indications this was not a launch by a foreign military," the statement said. "We will provide more information as it becomes available."
NORTHCOM is the U.S. defense command and NORAD is a U.S.-Canadian organization charged with protecting the U.S.
from the threat of missiles or hostile aircraft.
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+1000 I just pissed myself lmaf! :)
It was the California public pension bubble.
Ben has left the building.
This is seriously fucked up and I would like an explanation. Now.
Agreed. A missile pops out of the water in US Territory near one of the most densely populated areas on the country in an earthquake region and we get half ass answers that it was no big deal and not a threat?
They need to take this shit seriously and convey to everyone that they take this shit seriously. Fucking Balloon Boy was given a more serious response than this.
Someone either really fucked something up in our military or we just got punked by China/Russia...either way it's not good.
+1000...nuf said!
Balloon Boy LOL!
WORD. Someone email that shit to the Pentagon, already.
Now the TSA can announce full body cavity searches... Can't have al CIAda smuggling ICBM's in and shootin out their asses...
We can have full body cavity searches but for Pete's sake please end the practice of turban frisking...
http://cbs13.com/wireapnational/Indian.minister.asks.2.2002135.html
Don't hold your breath waiting for an explanation. This has happend before. See:
http://news.discovery.com/space/mystery-rocket-launched-off-californian-...
and
http://sciencedude.ocregister.com/2009/12/31/mystery-launch-visible-off-...
+1. I want to know why this morning at 8 it was a only tiny story on the bottom of Drudge. I think people would want to know sooner than 12 hours after a large missile was launched right off our shore and nobody, I mean effin nobody, has a story in the pipeline ready to go on this? I know it was in the small media, but no alerts? Raise the terror color to fuchsia and let us know for cryin out loud!
If it's not sports or entertainment, it don't run.
Missiles off LA. That's messed up. That's panic in the streets right there. That's smashing into the Foot Locker for new shoes messed up. Rodney King was nothing compared to ICB-fooking-Ms in the sky off LA.
I forgot. Besides, I mighta just missed it 'cause Monday Night Football was on. :)
cougar - you are missing the point that we have missile tests off the coast of LA all the time. The unique thing about this is it was filmed. That is a rarity. Usually, we are simply left with really weird contrails in the sky and some muted news remark about another missile test leaving patterns in the sky.
This would be another nothing except that it was filmed.
If it was a missile test, the Pantagon would just say so.
If it was a secret missile test, they wouldn't have fired it outside the busy port of LA in shipping lanes with 5 million cell phones recording it to YouTube live.
Did I miss something here?
Cougar is correct. There is nothing routine about this unless norad and the MIC wanted to purposely make themselves look like a bunch of idiots. They do that enough by accident.
cougar is correct. norad/northcom has said it was not a navy shot, not ours, not a test, vandenberg confirmed not one of theirs.
cougar is not correct - and for some reason is ignoring the first sentence in my post above. So I will quote from the article at the top of this thread:
The DoD does not talk about its defense systems, particularly when they are creating something new. These shots, and these contrails, are a common occurance off of the coast of LA - in spite of all the camera phones. They don't have a high-quality tele-photo lens like that used to capture the video we have seen. Everything about this launch is routine, except the fact that it was filmed and questions are being asked.
You all are concerned about what happened last night. None of you are concerned about the last 10 test shots that went off just like this. What makes the difference? The threat to America? No - the video makes the difference. And it is the only reason that folks are expecting the DoD to talk about something that they don't talk about.
The San Fernando Valley was home to the development of many new weapons systems for WWII. The area is still home to the development of new weapons systems. And the area is still used for the testing of these systems. Most of the locals just ignore the testing. Most of the rest of the world doesn't even know it is going on. Until by chance someone has a professional video camera and captures the action. Then the whole world thinks something brand new is happening. It isn't. Well - the exposure by video camera is maybe new.
cougar is not even close to being correct.
The DoD does not have to talk about it's defense systems to come out and say that this was a routine launch caught on camera by a traffic helicopter. Have some more Kool Aid Mr. Al-Sahhaf. (I'll wait while you google that).
Missile launches off of the coast of Los Angeles are a relatively common occurance. The launches are not normally captured on camera. The DoD is not normally asked about them. If this is a test launch by a DoD civilian subcontractor, the DoD may not know about it. Yet. All of this is true. The one thing different about this time is that the President is out of the country.
Why, in an area where test launches of missiles is a common occurance, is it natural to suppose that maybe a chinese sub has breached our defenses?
Just let 'em run with it, RP....projecting their distaste for what they believe we've become as a nation and people --> inherently bad that needs to be schooled. Picking the Chicoms as our teacher is rich though, imho.
Something like this would be tantamount to the PRK sinking the Cheonan. Provocation of this sort doesn't pass the sniff test, at least from a state actor angle. Maybe re: our overseas deployed fleets, but not off our own friggin shore. As for non-state actors, if they were gonna go through the hassle of ensuring they could get that close undetected and spool up the launch, I think it would have been aimed towards a population center and not out to sea.
What a bunch of buffoons in that case. It’s another inept and incompetent US bureaucracy. Launching missiles and not even having the balls to come out and say it was a test launch? Think this through for a minute…
You launch a missile for everyone to see (it’s a common occurrence in that location according to you). Then when someone tapes it you deny it happened? WTF who are they trying to kid?
These people need to work on their propaganda or learn to be a little more discreet –or grow some balls and not be a bunch of pussy’s who deny stupid shit like this…
As I've stated elsewhere, every new DoD weapons system is designed and tested by a civilian, commercial, company. Think through the questions that were asked, and the answers. To DoD - did you do it? DoD answers - we have no record of the government launching anything. If this was a civilian test of a new weapons system developed by that civilian company - why would the DoD necessarily know of the test? And they would find no evidence of a government launch. On top of that, there may be the security concern of not wanting to signal the existance of a new weapons system or whatever it is. There are a number of reasons for the answers given. Some are obvious (in the case of a civilian test launch rather than government launch). Others may not be quite so obvious, but may have a logic to them that we won't ever understand (unless we gain access to the playbook they are operating from).
why would the DoD NOT necessarily know of the test? Since when is the DoD so hands-off with regard to weapons development? You're saying anybody can just launch missiles like this off the coast without letting any official channels know?
There are any number of plausible explanations the government could give, even fabricated ones, but none of them include the response "we don't know what it is".
From denningers site
Where were the NOTAMs if this was ours?
Missing, that's where. Multiple reports now that there were NO notices posted for aviators. No way in hell our military intentionally launches a missile without posting NOTAMs for the civilian air system before it happens. This means it either wasn't ours, or wasn't intentionally launched
No way in hell our military intentionally launches a missile ...
If this was a civilian subcontractor test-launching something, then it wasn't the military intentionally launching the missile. I've stated that above. You either missed it or are intentionally ignoring it.
The NOTAMs have been addressed elsewhere in this thread and the other thread. There was one given for this area. The missile was launched from an area that is governed by the Navy. Lots of testing done in that area. In general, the airlines know to avoid the area. Now to specifics - which I've stated elsewhere. The missile was launched 35 miles off-shore, and was aimed out to sea - away from the shore. That is well away from the normal airline flight paths into and out of Los Angeles. And last of all is the issue that it could have been an accidental firing.
Again, when a missile goes off where this one went off, folks who know the area and the history of missile launches there don't automatically think that a chinese sub got close to shore and fired a rocket. The facts of that particular location and its history suggest a more mundane explanation.
please man , stop it! stop the nonsense! respectfully, have an open mind, it's not a threat to you personally, please stop making fun of yourself.
Was it Bull Durham were Kevin Costner tells "Nuke" Lalosh to plunk the mascot with a wild pitch? G20, India, war of words with China, did we just plunk the mascot?
Nobody from the DoD can confirm, yet they are assured it is no threat...comforting.
That's the standard response when anything happens.
- We don't know what it was, but we know there is no threat
- We don't know who blew up the bomb, but we no there were no terrorists involved
- We don't know why the markets melted down, but we know we better give several trillions to the banks
They never know the problem, but they always no the solution
Maybe they just want to see if the American public will buy a BS explanation such as this.
probably a nude bomb!
Contrail.
http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-440
The more I look at it, the more plausible the innocent contrail explanation looks to me.
If anyone has video showing this vapor trail being created at a speed that only a rocket is capable of, I'd like to see it.
There are enough lies and false flags going on, we don't need to "find" another one here. Boy who cried wolf and all that.
Here you go: http://www.air-and-space.com/20061214_VAFB_Delta-II_NRO.htm
Also, the more you view this video, the more obvious the contrail of an airplane: http://www.necn.com/11/09/10/Mysterious-missile-launched-off-Californ/la...
Tell it to the Pentagon. I hear they are desperate for clues.
Don't think that contrails leave radar traces on Norad systems...
"innocent contrail"
Considering how far back the tail of that 'innocent contrail' would have to be if it were the contrail of anything in level flight, don't you think it strange that the far distant part of the contrail is so much wider than the near part?
Have you ever seen a setting sun on the horizon? It appears much larger than it should because of refraction. The light closer to the horizon was being refracted in the same way.
Contrails come from airplanes, which generally aren't glowing orange/red. If they are, the contrails are rather short.
Also, contrails are white in color, as they are ice crystals that form from nano-particulates in the exhaust of planes. This was a column of SMOKE. Big fat fucking difference.
Remember, I'm the guy that says that 9/11 was not an inside job.
Really? How about this "missile launch" in North Carolina? http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/2006/01/contrails-at-sunset.html
So unbelievably gullible people can be.
AN/SPY-1 , bitchez!
We got a track ... ?
Chem-trails
I mean if we're gonna get loony, then let's do loony right.
/sigh. I guess it was only a matter of time.
We go down every alley here at ZH
i actually like the word con-trails. it's an apt metaphor.
Now that's making sense.
Why is everyone referring to the this one site (introduced by HarryWagner) earlier today as the definite rebuttal to every other point of view? The sub-heading of the site reads "The Science and Pseudoscience of Contrails and Chemtrails". Make your argument by all means but please back up your arguments with something a little more definitive or multiple sources.
Dug around a bit on the uncisus.wordpress.com site (which redirects to/from the http://contrailscience.com/ site).
In any case found an "About Me" page:
ContrailScience.com is just a place where I write about contrails and science – which also includes some looking at the “chemtrails” theory, and pseudoscience.
Email me at:
uncinus@gmail.com
I also post on YouTube as “Epoxynous”
Seems like this is a single blogger with an interest in this area, which is fine. But for HarryWagner to refer to this as a site offering an "expert" opinion is ridiculous.
BUSTED! +10^10^10 now that is a job well done!
So our government is saying...
If it looks like shit, and smells like shit...it's definately not shit?
It was an Estes rocket from the hobby shop.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
The really REALLY big ones.
Scale 1:1
You've got to love the Saturn V. The most amazing rocket ever made. Too bad it couldn't be done today.
yeah saturn v's are great pieces of tech, I wish we didnt have to kill the land and water and air to make them.
http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/SiteCleanup/Santa_Susana_Field_Lab/
btw here was also the place a sodium reactor partially melted down in the 50's now just 5 miles from simi, they used to flush the sat v engines there and run the chems into a pool into the ground, the entire ground water table of santa monica was contaminated with tce and perchlorate in a giant underground plume extending for miles.
"The Santa Susana Field Laboratory (SSFL) is located 30 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles(edit: less than 5 miles from the sfv and 1 million people) in southeastern Ventura County, near the crest of the Simi Hills at the western border of the San Fernando Valley. A former rocket engine test and nuclear research facility, the 2,849-acre field laboratory is currently the focus of a comprehensive environmental investigation and cleanup program, conducted by Boeing, the United States Department of Energy (DOE) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), and overseen by the Department of Toxic Substances Control."
Estes, Cox & Centuri rockets.
Yes!
oooh, old-timer! No one else I know besides my brother remembers Centuri!
Liked their engines way more than Estes.
I might still have an unopened rocket kit somewhere...
http://members.cox.net/retrojayrocket/history.html
*crickets*
Wait a second -
So Pentagon doesn't know who shot a very large missile off (quite likely from sea?) but somehow puts up the "have no fear, all's well" signal???
If you don't know who shot if off and you don't know what it was, THEN WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!!!
Anybody know of private companies launching missiles from sea??? Any private companies w/ missile launching capable submarines out there?
Sgt. Schultz must be manning the phone while the OD hits the head.
Anybody got the # for MIB?
Why has no one mentioned the obvious....Somali Pirates.
They were pissed off that their 700+ Somali "brothers" were busted this week in for having a nationwide child prostitution ring.
WINNER!
Move along. There's nothing to see here.
Haliburton?
Clearly it was Aliens escaping the planet as they were unable to decipher our macroeconomic math and intellectually frustrated with the difference between QE2 and debt monetization.
+10 you are officially in the top ten. Lol
Let me on...I'm one of you and take me to your leader
Weak sauce. I'm not buying it.
They don't know. Period. That is nothing but bad.
The people of LA are going to want some answers and dammit right now. I'm in the Bay Area and I want some answers myself, right now.
They don't know.
they know who ur facebook friends r. they know ur favorite toothpaste. they know because it was them.
Maybe they don't know, because they are so worried about all that other shit? There are only so many resources, and so many hours in the day.
I am concluding you are correct. If they did know but didn't want to identify it, they would be able to concoct some kind of plausible explanation relatively quickly.
However, the fact that they haven't come up with anything, suggests they are waiting for more evidence before they make a statement that could possibly be contradicted.
Or, they do know, but are just morons.
OK now I've confused myself.
Damn, now i need sandbags, a bunker, and i shore enuf aint got nuf ammo fer all them chineses.
They won't want your ammo, just your gold.
The people of LA are going to want some answers and dammit right now.
This is a commonplace occurance for the people of LA. I don't hear anybody here asking for answers, because they know what the answer is. Missile launches from offshore or from Vandenberg are taken in stride by the folks who live here. It is only of minor interest to the folks here that somebody actually caught one of the missiles/rockets on camera.
But this subject certainly is generating mucho hits for TD today.
Chinese sub-launched ICBM. Maybe they're trying to tell us something...
Stun Gun
It may be Chinese subs have all of a sudden gotten much quieter/stealthier. Just a little demo.
Not all of a sudden, in 2007 a Chinese sub popped up undetected near one of our carriers in the middle of one of our naval exercises.
Chinese sub, yum!
Kung Po hoagie?
This has Wile E. Coyote written all over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upt7ZTvcriY
LOL
Is that shot by Bin Laden? I'm sure they know if it's shot by Osama.
In other words......WE DID IT AND WE AN'T GOING TO ADMIT IT.
I think it was a Fed ICBM sending newly minted 100s to explode over whoever to rain down the bills, w/ a picture of Bennies Ass in the middle
1,000,000,000,000s
Fixed it for ya*
We don't know whose it is, where it came from, or what it can do. But we can conclusively say, our nation is not at risk. Don't you feel safer knowing these geniuses are on duty?!
More like "This is what you get from announcing QE2 beotch, we got a lot more smack when you get around to QE3."
Except it's all said in Chinese.
Haha, that was my first thought too, but there's probably a much more mundane response given that incompetence is the most abundant commodity in the world.
I would be right there with the "incompetence" defense if I thought for a New York minute that was in the cards.
It's not.
Well, it might be incompetence to allow a Chinese sub within 100 miles of Los Angeles, but I'm not up on the technology involved so I have to hold judgement.
The more I read, the more I conclude that this was just a jet flying towards the camera. Clear sky gives a view of the contrail all the way back to the horizon.
see http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/
and http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/mystery-missile-is-probably-a-je...
If correct, we are the incompetents. I'm fine with that.
NORAD called it a missile launch, then said it was not military hardware.
What ever the actual fuck that means.
The contrail thing is giving me a head ache. Make it go away.
I did not see where they actually called it a "missle launch". I believe that they will not confirm that.
Well I thought I read that in an earlier post at ZH. Some NORAD PR stuffage. What the hell do I know. It looked like a launch to me, and nobody from the top is calling it the flying spaghetti monster, so it's a launch.
Don't get me wrong, the FSM is the real deal. Just say'n.
MY GOD YOU ARE RIGHT!
How could I be so blind as to miss this clear signal from the noodly one?
I must repent.
If they wanted to "explain" it away they'd call it a goose, that was covered in flour and the white stuff was just the flour trailing behind it, or something like that. The fact that they haven't tried to explain yet it is suspicious.
Remember this? http://www.lugaluda.com/norway-spiral-light-norway-light-video/
That is what a missile looks like, so this Califarnia thing must be a malfunctioning birthday cake?
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/pentagon-cant-explain-missile-sighting-norad-believes-it-not-foreign-military-object#comment-714331
Dr. No testing something???
I had to laugh when they said it was a private corporation. Maybe SPECTER is at it again? I keep seeing the mental image of Donald Pleasance petting that white cat.
Cobra commander? Joker? Cruella? The list is endless.
Dr. Claw and M.A.D
http://bestuff.com/stuff/dr-claw
Might want to read this story before you get all worked up: http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/
mpw
What from that little website that didn't exist before this morning and has no other posts? Please.
World: "Let's go on a Gold standard."
China: "Agreed. The Dollar sucks."
USA: "Gold what? OMG! Look at that ICBM fly towards Asia!"
World: "Let's buy the Dollar, shall we?"
Gold: "Damn, who the hell just cracked me over the head?"
Fine fine.
Except I'm pretty sure that would be an act of treason.
That little roadblock hasn't stopped them so far.
Why? I think the civilian administration and the military were in cahoots on this one. Can't let the world start dumping dollars now, can we?
Why? Because launching a large missile within 35 miles of a densely populated area in the US would have a reasonable chance of causing panic and/or property damage even if it went off without a problem.
Inciting a panic or riot on that scale is counter to the defense and welfare of the American people and could destabilize the economy and local government. It is counter to our democratic principles to destroy people in this manner. Doesn't matter if it did or did not, it could and reasonably might, and that would be sufficient grounds for accusations of treason, IMO.
I agree with you there, but then again, I think the printing of Trillions of dollars have a much bigger destabilizing impact, and as Cog D stated above, those democratic principals have never stopped them before.
Then I suggest they stick to printers, because that kind of treason is less likely to get them dragged before a courts martial. you end up there, a hanging is just down the hall.
Identifying that missle is not nearly as easy as using Reuters reporters as target practice.
The tipping point runs from 11-05-2010 5:30 pm until 11-14-2010 4:40 pm.
http://www.argusoogradio.org/nl/2010/10/the-waterman-files-%e2%80%93-29-oktober-2010/
Be very, very aware of your surroundings
i would offer up the idea presented by ambassador to NATO robert ellsworth:
When asked, however, what he thought it might be, the former ambassador said it could possibly have been a missile test timed as a demonstration of American military might as President Obama tours Asia.
"It could be a test-firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine … to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that," speculated Ellsworth.
Ellsworth said such tests were carried out in the Atlantic to demonstrate America's power to the Soviets, when there was a Soviet Union, but he doesn't believe an ICBM has previously been tested by the U.S. over the Pacific.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/09/national/main7036716.shtml
Why oh why would they launch the damned thing 35 miles off LA? Off the busiest port-o-call in the world? In civilian airspace? During rushhour?
Answer: They wouldn't. They just would not.
Simple. So the US Military can deny it was them. Can you imagine firing the missile from the South China Sea, or even international waters? Firing from your own shore gives you the right to fire it, but you still have plausible deniability. It's a win-win for the US Military.
Jeezuz. H. Christ.
No more tinfoil for you, Sparky. It's messing up your ability to think for yourself.
If you are unable to argue a point, then resort to name calling.
Are you really so ignorant to believe that our Military would have ZERO clue as to who fired that missile? Get real, your unwavering faith in our government is making you blind.
Edit - After reading your posts below, I realize you are a just a moron.
Pot and kettle.
But it's still fun.
I have no faith whatever in the government. I am quite prepared to think they completely missed this one. Yes I do think they have no clue. If the thing literally leaped from the sea unannounced and then was gone, leaving only a cloud of chemical steam, why should they know anything more about it than we do? They probably have a radar sig, they have some reliable ballistics, they might be able to read something from the propellant trail if they got there fast enough to fly through it. What else? It's not like Harry Potter, they can't ask a crystal ball.
one issue which seems to be neglected in anything i have read is where was it aimed? where did it land?
i would say the idea from ellsworth is about as good as any, but it is odd that it was done so close to LA. it could be a secret test of some sort, or a stunt for the chinese. no one is talking....except one guy from the military who said it was a plane and not a missle. LOL. a plane. that cannot have been a plane. why not just say it was swamp gas. so whatever usual cover up. i imagine they do know what it was. who knows maybe someone was trying to show us something.
It needn't have been aimed, and probably it landed in the sea. Nobody is saying the North Chi-ussians were trying to blow anyone up. That wouldn't solve anything. If they needed to prove something then they proved it right there, no property damage required.
Agreed. No sense whatsoever. As for the "we haven't demonstrated an ICBM launch over the Pacific before, only the Atlantic . . . " really?
Makes no sense.
Is it a Permanent Naval Weapons Range? If it was, like land based Live Firing Ranges and air weapons ranges for the army/marines and air force, all the applicable maps would be clearly marked as such and there would be permanent NOTAMs. The Naval Range would have marker buoys with seriously worded warnings and be patrolled. Then, there could be periodic range practices without extra Press warnings. From the look of the range of the wpn, it would have to be a very large area since the danger areas (templates) must lie within the range. Is there a very large Naval Range 35 miles off LA which is permanently out of bounds to marine traffic and air traffic above it? Any civi wpns testing would be done on such a range and there would be no reason to have a special warning or NOTAM if it was confine to its danger template.
I love this site.
It was 100% China. Do we know for sure where it landed or if it has landed yet?
God help you all.
China China China China China
Or N Korea.
I mean that's it. Them's yer choices. Sorry. Reality bites.
Kim Jung is nutty enough to pull a prank like this ...
Oh hell yeah. In a split second.
So.... If they don't know what it is, how can it not be a threat?
Because they said so.
I have to spell everything out.
Oh. Okay. I can rest assured now.
Thanks!
That settled, how about we hang at the trashcan down at CD's. They had crab legs last night. I know you hit that sort of thing.
I hit anything that don't move -- and some that does.
"Because they said so."
Your mom also said you were attractive when you were a teenager, but it didn't necessarily mean it was true.
Rocky and CD and I joke around. You gotta hang here a while to catch the drift. It ain't stupid, it's funny.
Yo mama apparently forgot to teach you some manners.
...and she forgot to tell you that you're ugly.
Well yeah, but we can't all of us be as handsome as raccoons. You guys got the best game-face going.
You spelled raccoon right and that is incorrect...
D'oh, back to the correctional facility.
Ole Johnny Bravo would go to the spelling of raccoon when his arguments ran out of steam. I explained to him several times that the spelling was deliberate, as was the elimination of the space between words. He conveniently "forgot" that every time.
And, no, I don't miss him.
just for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-G4onYzITc
Google Space or Jerry Brown.
Bobby Bigelow ... my guess.
I wonder whats happening out at the old Skinwalker ranch these days?
With all the USN carrier battle groups tied up offshore in the Indian Ocean and South China Sea, the only boat left to fire a shot across the bow of the G20 Meeting and Korean confab was a missile boat. This rocketry demo shows the USA is not a paper tiger and its dollar not just some fiat printed certificate. The US dollar is backed by thermonuclear weapons, along with the full faith and credit of the USA. The international powers that be are not as confused about this as most citizens are.
Isn't it interesting that it was shot off at sundown, where you couldn't help but see it over the Pacific, backlit by a setting sun. That is military planning! Looks like Obama has cowboyed up.
Per Dr. Strangelove: if you are sending a message, why do you insist you didn't send it? Your theory makes no sense whatsoever. Why would the US need to be circumspect about it capacity?
That's part of the message! That's the essence of the message...... lies, power, war.
The US would not ever launch something like this within 35 miles of a prairie dog town, least of all LA.
During rush hour? LA during rush hour, you don't stage a fire drill at a kindergarten.
No sorry, not one of ours. And we don't know whose it is, either.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Only the North Koreans are stupid enough to do something like this.
Word. But the Chinese might do it under cover of being crazy N Korean. The Koreans might not have the stealth subs to manage it, but they are bat-shit crazy enough to not let that stop them.
Even odds.
Russia may be testing their own stealth capabilities. China is most likely. Shot across our bow, giving Bernanke a final last warning?
Maybe maybe. New boss in town? Or new sheriff? Or someone is claiming the Pacific Ocean? Pirates with SCUDs?
Take it where ever it goes, none of it is good.
Maybe it was one of ours, but we weren't the ones who launched it...someone else being able to control our strategic nuclear weapons systems...how would that be for a new cyber-warfare threat?
Let me be clear...I don't believe this is what happened, but you have to admit it's by far the scariest of all possible (if it is possible) scenarios.