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Pentagon Papers Whistleblowers and Congressman Call for a New 9/11 Investigation
The two main players in releasing the Pentagon Papers were Daniel Ellsberg and United States Senator Mike Gravel.
Senator Gravel is the person who read the Pentagon Papers into the Congressional Record. This act made the papers public record, so that they could not be censored by the government. He was the only member of Congress courageous enough to do so.
Both Ellsberg and Gravel - like many other high-level former officials in the government and intelligence services (including many well-known whistleblowers) - support a new 9/11 investigation. Ellsberg says that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". (Here's some of what that whistleblower says.) He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11.
And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of those in office, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath (see this and this).
Gravel is now backing a California ballot initiative for a new 9/11 investigation. The text of the initiative is below.
The initiative would actually help support the 9/11 Commission and fulfill the desire of the 9/11 Commissioners. Specifically, the Commission was severely underfunded:
- The government spent $175 million investigating the Challenger space shuttle disaster.
- It spent $152 million on the the Columbia disaster investigation.
- It spent $30 million investigating the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
- But the government only authorized $15 million for the 9/11 Commission.
Moreover, many 9/11 Commissioners said they never completed the investigation:
- 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton himself says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue.
- Similarly, 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ." . He also says that he had long feared that the investigation depended too heavily on the accounts of Al Qaeda detainees who were physically coerced into talking, and that it might take "a permanent 9/11 commission" to end the remaining mysteries of September 11.
- And 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America."
The initiative would allow deeper questions to be asked about 9/11, allow the 9/11 debate to continue, investigate the remaining mysteries of 9/11, and help to get to the full story, as the 9/11 Commissioners themselves want. (The Commissioners haven't yet read the initiative).
The initiative is unusual because it would allow other state governments, and even local governments, within California or any other state, two different options to officially express support for the new commission’s investigation pursuant to the initiative’s terms. Under the first option, a state or local government could enter a joint powers agreement with the commission to join the investigation and to share resources with the commission. Under the second option, a state or local government could endorse the efforts of the commission, at no cost to the state or local government, merely by the governing body of that state or local government passing an official resolution expressly supporting the commission’s investigation.
The initiative is also unusual because it goes the extra mile to ensure that the investigation will not be compromised by political considerations like the 9/11 Commission and the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission were. Specifically, it amends the state constitution to name Senator Gravel as the initial director and ensures that commissioners are appointed on the basis of their qualifications, and not political considerations. The initiative would name former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney as the initial director if Gravel is unable to serve in that capacity.
This sounds very odd at first, but a lawyer formerly with California's Office of Legislative Counsel - who drafted the initiative on behalf of Senator Gravel - states that these provisions are legally sound, and that an initiative that amends the state constitution in this manner would require 807,615 signatures to be placed on the ballot, rather than 504,760 signatures (the amount normally required to put a statutory initiative on the ballot). He states that California’s Office of Legislative Counsel vetted the entire initiative and did not find its amendments to the state constitution legally problematic.
In other words, the constitutional amendment would not be as big a deal as it initially seems, as at the end of the day, it would only mean getting an additional three hundred thousand signatures in a state of 40 million.
Former U.S. Congressman Dan Hamburg from California - legendary for his role in helping to preserve the Headwaters Forest - supports the initiative. Hamburg is in a unique position to support the initiative, as he is now serving as a county supervisor for Mendocino County. With his unique background in the U.S. Congress and local government, Hamburg supports the fact that the initiative allows governments at the local and state level to support a full and complete investigation.
Lawyers for 9/11 Truth also supports the initiative in principle. That organization includes such well-known legal scholars as:
- Ferdinando Imposimato, Honorary President of the Supreme Court of Italy. Former Senior Investigative Judge, Italy. Presided over numerous terrorism-related cases
- Burns H. Weston, Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Founding Director and Senior Scholar, Center for Human Rights, The University of Iowa, Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law
- Andreas Von Bülow, former Assistant German Defense Minister (the number two German defense position), former Minister of Research and Technology, and a former member of the German Parliament
- Constance Fogal, former leader, Canadian Action Party
- J. Michael Springmann, former diplomat in the State Department's Foreign Service, with postings to Germany, India, Saudi Arabia, and the Bureau of Intelligence and Research in Washington, D.C. He was the head of the U.S. consular official in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and is the published author of several articles on national security themes
Here is the draft initiative, with commentary:
(The following is the text of the California Initiative measure creating a new 9/11 investigative commission to be submitted directly to the voters at the general election in November 2012, with comments within ( ) for clarity. By law the title and summary of an initiative are required to be written by the Attorney General of California after the initiative is officially filed with the state government.)
(A suggested title)
The 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission Act
(A suggested summary)
This measure would establish within state government the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission in order to conduct a citizen-based, comprehensive, and truly independent investigation into events relating to the attacks of September 11, 2001. The measure would:
(1) Grant the commission all investigatory powers of the state, including the power of subpoena;
(2) Authorize the commission to enter into a joint powers agreement with any public entity within the United States and to exercise any investigatory power of any of the contracting powers in conducting the investigation;
(3) Amend the California Constitution to appoint former United States Senator Mike Gravel as the initial Director of the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission, and in his absence Representative Cynthia McKinney, to ensure the political independence of the commission from government interference through the appointment process, and to provide the commission credibility with respect to the transparency of its operations;
(4) Appropriate an amount equal to $0.50 per resident of the state from the General Fund to the director to conduct and administrate the investigation;
(5) Specify conditions governing its future amendment; and
(6) Provide that if a provision of the measure is held invalid, that provision’s invalidity will not render the remainder of the measure invalid.
(The Preamble)
TO THE HONORABLE SECRETARY OF STATE OF CALIFORNIA
We, the undersigned, registered, qualified voters of California, residents of ____ County (or City and County), hereby propose amendments to the Constitution of California and the Code, and petition the Secretary of State to submit the same to the voters of California for their adoption or rejection at the next succeeding general election or at any special statewide election held prior to that general election or otherwise provided by law. (The “official summary date,” the date that the Attorney General sends the title and summary for the initiative measure to the proponent, is also the date that the Secretary of State will use to determine the calendar deadlines applicable to the measure. All requisite signatures must be received within 150 days of the official summary date. The requisite number of signatures and other qualifications for placement on the November 2, 2012 Presidential General Election ballot must be met at least 131 days before that election—May 24, 2012.) The proposed constitutional amendments read as follows:
SECTION 1. This act shall be known and may be cited as the 9/11 Citizens
Investigation Commission Act.
(A declaration of facts that warrant the enactment of the initiative by the voters.)
SECTION 2. The people of the State of California find and declare all of the
following:
(a) The events of September 11, 2001, have had a profound effect on the economic, social, and cultural well-being of Californians, and of all citizens of the United States.
(1) In the wake of that tragic day, the United States entered into the War on Terror, the War in Afghanistan, and the Iraq War. Vast amounts of the blood and treasure of the American people have been spent fighting these ongoing wars. Over 5,800 American military personnel have lost their lives in the War on Terror, and over 40,000 have been wounded. In addition, innumerable innocent civilians have also lost their lives in the War on Terror. According to a September 2, 2010, report by the federal Congressional Research Service, the cumulative total for funds appropriated in the War on Terror was $1,121,000,000,000.
(2) Since September 11, 2001, the civil liberties of Californians and other Americans have been drastically curtailed, and fundamental rights guaranteed by the United States Bill of Rights have been under attack. Government actions under the USA PATRIOT Act (Public Law 107-56), enacted on October 26, 2001, have trampled civil liberties and fundamental rights by, among other things, purportedly authorizing increased espionage against innocent United States citizens, and the indefinite detention of certain prisoners without charge.
(3) Since September 11, 2001, the federal government has decimated essential liberties of its citizens in the name of temporary safety, and this way of thinking has reached an absurd extent, in that suspicionless, systematic assault on its citizens has become a policy of the federal government. In November 2010, the Transportation Security Administration, an agency of the United States Department of Homeland Security, began implementing additional screening procedures for air travelers, including the use of invasive back-scatter X-ray scans that display nude images of the person scanned, and extensive patdowns that include the touching of the chest, genitals, and buttocks of the person inspected.
(b) Beyond these profound effects on the well-being of Californians and all United States citizens, there are other wide-ranging and substantial considerations that support the need for further investigation into the events of September 11, 2001:
(1) A false flag operation is one designed to deceive so that the operation appears as though it was carried out by another entity, rather than the actual operator, in order to foster a clandestine political effect. The history of the United States is littered with instances of the alleged use of false flag operations, especially as pretext for war or to forward a pro-war agenda. These instances include, among others, the invasion of Mexico in 1846, the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine on February 18, 1898, the sinking of the RMS Lusitania on May 7, 1915, the second Gulf of Tonkin incident claimed to have occurred on August 4, 1964, and the purported existence of weapons of mass destruction as the rationale for the invasion of Iraq in March of 2003.
(2) World Trade Center Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that was part of the World Trade Center complex, collapsed at 5:20 p.m. on September 11, 2001, and proffered explanations for the building’s failure have been widely disputed. To date, over 1,400 architectural and engineering professionals, and over 10,000 other individuals, have signed a petition, addressed to Members of the House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States of America, demanding “a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7.”
(3) In the aftermath of September 11, 2001, the federal government established the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission, to prepare a full and complete account of, and to report on the circumstances surrounding, the attacks. However, the 9/11 Commission has been widely criticized for lacking sufficient political independence or legal authority to discharge its duties. In their book, which was co-written after the conclusion of the commission’s work, “Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission,” the commission’s Chairman, Republican Thomas H. Kean, and its Vice Chairman, Democrat Lee H. Hamilton, asserted their belief that the commission had been designed to fail. The collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 was not addressed in the 9/11 Commission’s final report.
(c) The State of California is an appropriate government entity to initiate, and to provide the legal basis for, a citizens’ investigation into the events of September 11, 2001. Californians were among those who died in the attacks of that infamous day, and many more Californians have subsequently died fighting in the War on Terror, the War in Afghanistan, and the Iraq War. Furthermore, alleged terrorist conspirators trained in California to carry out the events of September 11, 2001. Historically, California has been an economic and political leader among the states, and events relating to September 11, 2001, have drastically affected the economics and politics of both California and the country at large. For all these reasons, the initiation of a citizens’ investigation into the events of September 11, 2001, is an urgent matter of statewide concern.
(d) In order to ensure the political independence of the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission from government interference through the appointment process, and to provide the commission credibility with respect to the transparency of its operations, former United States Senator Mike Gravel shall serve as the initial director of the commission and, if Senator Gravel is unable to serve as the initial director, former Member of the United States House of Representatives Cynthia McKinney shall serve in that capacity.
(e)We, the people of the State of California, in solidarity with all citizens of the United States, direct the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission, a new investigatory commission created by this act, to conduct a citizen-based, comprehensive, and truly independent investigation into events relating to the attacks of September 11, 2001.
(This section is the amendment to the Constitution.)
SECTION 3. Section 12 of Article II of the California Constitution is amended to
read:
(a) No amendment to the Constitution, and no statute proposed to the electors by the Legislature or by initiative, that names any individual to hold any office, or names or identifies any private corporation to perform any function or to have any power or duty, may be submitted to the electors or have any effect.
(The underlined text is the addition of new text to the Constitution.)
(b) The prohibition set forth in subdivision (a) of this section shall not apply to the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission established pursuant to Chapter 9.6 (commencing with Section 8775) of Division 1 of Title 2 of the Government Code, in order to ensure the commission’s independence and to prevent federal or state government interference in its investigation or proceedings to the maximum extent allowed under the Constitution of the United States and this Constitution.
SECTION 4. Section 1 of Article VII of the California Constitution is amended to read:
(a) The civil service includes every officer and employee of the State except as otherwise provided in this Constitution.
(b) In the civil service permanent appointment and promotion shall be made under a general system based on merit ascertained by competitive examination.
(c) This section shall not apply to an officer or employee of the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission.
(The text below: Sections 5 to 8 comprise the new law added to the code by the initiative.)
SECTION 5. Section 6537 is added to the Government Code, to read:
6537. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, consistent with the United States Constitution, the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission, established pursuant to Section 8775, may enter into a joint powers agreement with any public entity within the United States, including, but not limited to, another state, a United States territory, a local government within this state, another state, or a United States territory, or an agency of the federal government, and the commission may exercise any investigatory power of any of the contracting powers to carry out the requirements of Chapter 9.6 (commencing with Section 8775) of Division 1 of Title 2.
SECTION 6. Chapter 9.6 (commencing with Section 8775) is added to Division 1
of Title 2 of the Government Code, to read:
Chapter 9.6. 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission
SECTION 8775.
The 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission is hereby created in state government as an independent commission for the purpose of investigating events relating to September 11, 2001. It is the intent of the residents of the State that the commission not be subject to state executive or legislative branch control, and that the state not interfere with the investigation or proceedings of the commission. The federal government is likewise requested to not interfere with commission activities.
SECTION 8776.
(a) The commission shall impartially and objectively investigate the
events of, leading up to, and in the aftermath of September 11, 2001, as those events relate to the economic, social, and cultural well-being of the residents of California, those under the jurisdiction of a public entity that enters into the joint powers agreement authorized by Section 6537, or those under the jurisdiction of a public entity that endorses the investigation and proceedings of the commission pursuant to Section 8782.
(1) The investigation shall include, but not be limited to, the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York City, the attack on the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, the crash of Flight 93 at Shanksville, Pennsylvania, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and the Global War on Terror.
(2) The investigation shall consider the content and findings of previous
investigations into the events of, leading up to, or the aftermath of September 11, 2001, including, but not limited to, any work product of the federal 9/11 Commission or the “Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001” conducted by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
(3) The investigation shall consider perceived shortcomings or weaknesses in the report created by the federal 9/11 Commission, including, but not limited to, any scientific weaknesses or shortcomings.
(4) The investigation shall conclude within five years of the operative date of the act that added this chapter.
(b) Upon the conclusion of its investigation, the commission shall produce a report for issuance to the Governor, the members of the Senate Committee on Rules, the Speaker of the Assembly, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and to each public entity that enters into the joint powers agreement authorized by Section 6537 or endorses the investigation and proceedings of the commission pursuant to Section 8782. The report shall identify all of the following:
(1) Any indication of criminal activity warranting prosecution. If the criminal activity identified may constitute a war crime or a crime against humanity, the commission shall report that criminal activity and its apparent perpetrators, as identified in the report to the International Criminal Court.
(2) Any individual or corporation that profited unduly from the events investigated by the commission.
(3) Any other relevant malfeasance, and the apparent perpetrators, if any, of that malfeasance.
SECTION 8777.
(a) In conducting its investigation, the commission shall have, and may exercise, all investigatory powers of the state, including, but not limited to, the power of subpoena. In addition, the commission may exercise any investigatory power that is lawfully granted to it pursuant to a joint powers agreement authorized by Section 6537, or is lawfully granted to it by a public entity that endorses the investigation and proceedings of the commission pursuant to Section 8782.
(b) The scope of the commission’s investigatory powers shall be interpreted broadly.
(c) Section 8101 shall not apply to any compact or agreement entered into by the commission.
SECTION 8778.
(a) The commission shall be led by the Director of the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission, who shall serve as the commission’s chief executive officer and be responsible for administrating the investigation and proceedings of the commission. Due to his unique credibility on issues of government transparency, former United States Senator Mike Gravel shall serve as the initial director of the commission. If Senator Gravel is unable to serve as the initial director, because of her unique credibility on issues of government transparency former Member of the United States House of Representatives Cynthia McKinney shall serve in that capacity. If the initial director or a subsequent director is removed from the commission pursuant to paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 8780, the commission shall elect a new director as provided in that paragraph.
(b) The director shall serve as chairperson of the commission and govern the public proceedings of the commission.
(c) As the chief executive officer of the commission, the director shall have plenary power over, and be solely accountable for, the fiscal operations of the commission. The director shall allocate the commission’s funding to discharge its objectives in the most efficient and effective manner possible.
SECTION 8779.
(a) The director may employ staff as the director determines necessary to discharge the duties of the commission.
(b) (1) Subject to the advice and consent of the commission, the director shall appoint a Special Investigator who shall be responsible for conducting the investigation and compiling the report. The Special Investigator shall report directly to the director, and shall follow up on the directives of, and report his or her findings to, the commission.
(2) The Special Investigator shall serve at the pleasure of the commission. The commission may remove the Special Investigator if a majority of the commission votes in favor of removal. If the commission removes the Special Investigator, the director shall appoint a replacement in the manner specified in paragraph (1).
(3) All other staff of the commission shall be at-will employees, and shall serve at the pleasure of the director.
(c) An employee of the commission shall be compensated for his or her employment, if at all, in a manner consistent with the compensation practices of the state with respect to the employees of state advisory bodies.
(d) Each employee of the commission shall execute the following oath or
affirmation of office as a condition of his or her service: “I, (name), hereby swear or affirm that I will, to the best of my ability, defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the State of California, and the principle of truth in governance in investigating the events of, leading up to, and in the aftermath of September 11, 2001.”
SECTION 8780.
(a) The commission shall be made up of at least 15 members, including the director, who shall serve as chairperson of the commission. The director shall determine the number of members of the commission, subject to the condition that the total membership of the commission shall equal an odd number.
(b) (1) Members shall be persons having specific expertise or experience that will aid or assist in the efforts of the commission. To the maximum extent feasible, the members of the commission shall not be public officials.
(2) The director shall appoint members, from among candidates nominated by a resident of this state, or a resident of a public entity that enters into the joint powers agreement authorized by Section 6537 or endorses the investigation and proceedings of the commission pursuant to Section 8780.
(3) Members of the commission shall serve for as long as necessary to complete the investigation, but for no longer than five years from the operative date of the act that added this chapter.
(4) (A) Any member of the commission, including the director, may be removed by a two-thirds vote of the commission, and a replacement member shall be appointed pursuant to this subdivision.
(B) If the commission votes to remove the director from the commission, it shall elect a member of the commission to subsequently serve as the director, and a replacement member shall be appointed pursuant to this subdivision.
SECTION 8781.
(a) (1) A sum equal to the amount of 50 cents ($0.50) per resident of the state is hereby transferred from the General Fund to the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Fund, which is hereby created in the State Treasury, and is continuously appropriated to the director to be expended in accordance with this chapter. For purposes of this subdivision, the population of the state shall be determined in accordance with the 2010 United States Census.
(2) Moneys in the fund shall be expended solely for the purposes of the commission.
(b) (1) Any public entity that enters into the joint powers agreement authorized by Section 6537 shall contribute to funding the operations of the commission as specified, if at all, in the joint powers agreement.
(2) No contribution to the funding of the operations of the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission shall be required of a public entity that endorses the investigation and proceedings of the commission pursuant to Section 8782.
(c) The commission may accept donations to fund its operations from any public
or private entity, in accordance with existing law. Any donation for the operations of the commission shall be deposited in the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Fund and shall be expended only in accordance with this chapter.
SECTION 8782.
Consistent with the United States Constitution, a public entity within the United States, including, but not limited to, another state, a United States territory, or a local government within this state, another state, or a United States territory, may, as an alternative to entering into a joint powers agreement pursuant to Section 6537, endorse the investigation and proceedings of the 9/11 Citizens Investigation Commission by passing a resolution endorsing the efforts of the commission. Endorsement by a public agency in this manner shall authorize the commission, in its investigation, to take into account effects of the events of, leading up to, and in the aftermath of September 11, 2001, as they relate to the economic, social, and cultural well-being of the residents under the jurisdiction of the endorsing public entity.
SECTION 8783.
(a) The commission shall be subject to the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act (Article 9 (commencing with Section 11120) of Chapter 1 of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2) and the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1). In order to avoid a conflict of laws, if the commission enters into an agreement with an entity in another state, the commission shall be subject to only the public records and public meeting laws of this state. In accordance with Section 3 of Article I of the California Constitution, the commission shall accommodate a reasonable disclosure request that is beyond the requirements of those laws, unless the commission provides a reasonable explanation for the denial of the particular disclosure request.
(b) As a first priority after its organization, the commission shall establish an Internet Web site. The commission shall regularly update its Internet Web site in order to promptly provide access to the public information required to be disclosed pursuant to subdivision (a), and to ensure that the information on the Internet Web site is as up to date as possible.
SECTION 8784.
In order to ensure conformity and clarity, all members and staff of the commission shall be subject to the conflict-of-interest laws of this state.
SECTION 7.
Consistent with subdivision (c) of Section 10 of Article II of the California Constitution, Sections 5 and 6 of this act may be amended only by a subsequent measure submitted to a vote of the people at a statewide election, or by a statute approved by two-thirds of the membership of each house of the Legislature and signed by the Governor that furthers the purposes of the act.
SECTION 8.
If any provision of this act, or any part thereof, is for any reason held to be invalid or unconstitutional, the remaining provisions shall not be affected, but shall remain in full force and effect, and to this end the provisions of this act are severable.
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For more information, contact the proponents of the initiative at CA911initiative@gmail.com.
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Priceless!!
It's called a false-flag attack. The US has done a few of them, when it was necessary to rouse the rabble. I don't think we know enough yet about 9/11 to take one side or the other.
Study USSA history and then taking sides is a slam-dunk...
1897:
Theodore Roosevelt, tightly allied to the J.P. Morgan banking interests, is made Assistant Secretary of the Navy.
During a speech at the U.S. Naval War College where plans for a war of empire against Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines have been under development since 1894, Roosevelt says,
"diplomacy is utterly useless where there is no force behind it; the diplomat is the servant, not the master, of the soldier...No triumph of peace is quite so great as the supreme triumphs of war."
Roosevelt, sends a cable to Admiral George Dewey advising him to prepare for an attack on the Spanish fleet in the Philippines pending "developments" in Cuba.
Whoa there Teddy... we haven't blown the Maine up yet.
Six weeks before the Maine does blow up, Roosevelt writes a letter to his very good friend, gun runner William Astor Chanler, saying,
"I earnestly hope that events will so shape themselves that we must interfere (in Cuba) some time not in the distant future."
1898:
In the midst of countless hostile actions, the destruction of the Cuban economy and an ongoing, vitriolic propaganda campaign by the U.S. against Spain, the USS Maine enters Havana Harbor on the patently absurd pretext of it being, in the words of the grotesque U.S. consul in Havana, a “friendly act of courtesy”.
The secondary pretext, of protecting Americans in Cuba, is equally absurd as Frederic Remington pointed out.
Remington, an illustrator for the Hearst newspapers, the key element in the propaganda campaign preparing the U.S. public for the long-planned U.S. invasion of Cuba, sends a cable to Hearst telling him that, contrary to the hysterical tales being invented and carried in the Hearst papers,
“all is quiet” in Cuba and asks for permission to return to the U.S.
Hearst sends Remington a cable saying,
“Please remain. You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war.”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311# Is it possible that our own government could order the murder of their own citizens?Operation Ajax:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
Gulf of Tonkin incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODxnUrFX6k&feature=related
Operation Northwoods (not executed):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Lavon affair (Israel):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
Future prospects: Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8MIENVtKw
why answer this idiot, he is clearly in a drunkin koolaid stupor.
I don't think it is possible for the US gov. to investigate itself?
"I don't think it is possible for the US gov. to investigate itself?"
I am sure they are sure they have done nothing wrong.
The ruling class would go batty if California passed that.
I think it would be helpful to compile a list of in-office elected officials, at any level but especially the local level, that have expressed interest in a real investigation. If the initiative allows local governments from throughout the country to endorse its investigation, all it would take is a single city council with a majority of members that support a real investigation to get the ball rolling. If I understand correctly, it wouldn't present any real fiscal cost for a city to pass a resolution supporting the investigation, so the cost obstacle is minimized. Each city council that endorses the new investigation would serve to reraise the issue nationally, and to promote the initiative, thereby helping it qualify for the ballot.
If anyone knows of any in-office elected officals that support a real investigation into 9/11, please list them in this thread...
So even if every city council in the US wants a new investigation, what does anyone think will happen? If 9/11 is a false-flag or whatever type of incident, it'll be the same old shit all over again. And what does it matter if taxpayers foot the gargantuan bills through city councils or their federal taxes?! The money's going to come out of our pockets one way or the other.
39 junks and counting for PD Quiq. Scary. I would add that Cynthia McKinney is mentioned in the text of the law specifically, as one of two persons who will oversee the investigations to insure there will be independence from political influence. ROFLOL.
"I would add that Cynthia McKinney is mentioned in the text of the law specifically, as one of two persons who will oversee the investigations to insure there will be independence from political influence."
The irony of it all..at least her Mediterranean cruise went well, probably looked and smelled like the Wisconsin state capital after a three week bender...bon voyage!...LOL.
on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 17:41
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What we really need to investigate is how fucking lunatic lefties hurt the brains of normal people who make mistake of actually reading their twisted, half-baked, juvenile fever swamp delusions. Only a complete fucking idiot without one ounce of common sense could actually believe that there was a conspiracy to take down the WTC towers. Anybody past the age of, oh, say six (post-Santa Claus belief) realizes that maybe a dozen people in the history of mankind have ever kept a secret of any consequence. Yet you want us to believe that the hundreds--or thousands--of consirators have been able to remain silent about the biggest event of the new century? Please go back to playing Dungeons and Dragons all night long with your other pimple-assed misfit friends. Or maybe suck a 9mm and end our misery, fer Chrissakes.
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Right (pun intended), the next thing you know people will be saying that the Millitary is controling mebers of Congress and the Senate thru Psy-Ops... the crazy shit these people here at Zero Hedge discuss?? tin hats-ville..
here read this.. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/another-runaway-general-army-deploys-psy-ops-on-u-s-senators-20110223
and for the 3 towers that fell, or pancaked perfectly.. all three? it is like having a perfect trading quarter or two quarters.. its a long stretch to get there without some kind of hinky intervention.. it is just phsyics just dont add up to well.. http://www.physics911.net/
Only God and "The Goldman Sachs" know the truth about that day.
They didn't keep the secret -dipshit. anyone and everyone who has seriously looked inot the issue 9and who is honest) knows 911 was an inside job.
Is that you 'W'?
PD Quig, did you see the video of the damage to the Pentagon? A single hole the size of an airliner fuselage. Did you notice there was no damage to the building or ground in front of the building where the twin engine airliners engines would be relative to the fuselage hole? Simple physics dictates that what hit the Pentagon was not a twin engine airliner. Yet this is what we are told happened. I did not want to believe the conspiricy theories. However the physical evidence contradicts the current official report. We were lied to. This is a fact.
Yes, the hole in the Pentagon - and the wreckage around it, before the remaining 'arch' above the hole collapsed - does seem inconsistent with an airliner smacking into the building.
The question is: if it was a missile, what happened to the airliner that was supposed to have hit it? And its passengers?
Repaint with Air America colors -- they needed it for heroin transport -- and Soylent Green or some such. They're experts, thanks to Clinton administration experience, at getting rid of bodies. Anymore questions?
goebbels advertising corp is hiring.
Fist they ignore you
Then they laugh at you
Then they fight you
Then you win
When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth have always won.
There have been tyrants, and murderers.
And for a time can seem invincible.
But in the end they always fall.
Think of it - Always!
dang, usually with a fist, well, it is kinda' in your face.
just sayin'
- Ned
Yo Quig. How can one quantify the people throughout history who have kept a secret of any consequence? Unless...the secret keeping brain was exhumed and bio-chemical analysis of said grey-matter revealed a plethora of information, that once decoded, revealed everything that person ever knew; which then could be compared to a list of all the things ever known by everyone in the history anything of all-time everything then take the difference between the two lists and.... PRESTO! secrets revealed.
I think old Quig is on to something
You must have seen that intensely probing, TWO PART, once-and-for-all, light shedding docu-drama presented by the good people of NatGeo in conjunction with that hard-hitting, titty-twisting, bitch slap of truth from the uncompromising truth-hounds @ Popular Mechanicals.
This man has clearly done his due dilligence and can be considered an expert in the matter. Case closed. Well done sir!
PD, I am not as certain as you. I am keeping an open mind. There are people in the world who do not think like the man on the street. A sacrifice of 3,000 people for some strategic objective is not outrageous to them. Look at the hundreds of thousands that have been killed in our current wars. Never underestimate human cruelty and treachery.
If key people start having unfortunate accidents, we will have our answer.
" A sacrifice of 3,000 people for some strategic objective is not outrageous to them"
A truism if there ever was one. Our government sacrifices Americans (and others) every day.
What's a few thousand americans in nyc when over a million helpless iraqi civilians have been assassinated?
Anyone with a bit of interest can read cognitive dissonance's incredible writing about the 911 "coup d'etat"
Thousand page "documents" immediately whipped out stripping YOU of any "rights" which you might have had prior to that false flag event. "COG" aka "continuity of what was once called government"
One would require an IQ in the low single digits to believe anything emitting from washington (Ron Paul excepted)
Now hear this! Your ship of state is not sinking. It is already sunk.
Exactly, and when you put it in the perspective of the money changers, 3,000 lives is a small price for the rewards of the last 10 years.
It would be interesting to see what each life cost in terms of the money spent on the war, and then in terms of profits made by defense contractor (and others) to this point.
Is questioning the government's version of what happened on 9/11 a traitorous activity? Is it something cooked up by liberals?
Well, let's see what leading conservatives have to say:
Current Republican Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"
Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee, has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (if you suspect he is a closet liberal, take a look at his bio)
Former high-ranking Reagan official and very influential conservative finds "massive evidence that the 9/11 Commission Report is a hoax"
Former Air Force Colonel and Pentagon official, who was part of the influential Office of Special Plans, and who was at the Pentagon on 9/11 does not believe the official story regarding 9/11 (see also this essay)
Former Chairman of the Conservative National Committee in Washington DC, former Executive Editor of Conservative Digest, and former U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot questions many aspects of the government's version of 9/11
Former Governor of Minnesota questions the government's version of 9/11, including the collapse of the Twin Towers
Conservative Arizona State Senator questions 9/11
In addition, the following high-level military and intelligence personnel have also questioned 9/11 (it is not clear whether or not they are conservatives; but their credentials are impressive):
Retired Lieutenant Colonel who served 21 years in the U.S. Marine Corps, a fighter pilot who flew over 300 combat missions, questions the official version of 9/11 and said "This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future...Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away."
Former 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006)
Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription required), said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job
Former director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions believes that the military was intentionally disabled on 9/11 in order to allow the attacks to succeed (see also this statement)
Please believe that the question I'm about to ask is sincere and not a dis:
Does anyone think that perhaps all the folks who want further investigation simply want more money for endless belly-button gazing -- for want of a better phrase?
It could be likened to more money for more investigation of lead paint. Or more money for "global warming".
Just sayin... while perhaps we should pay attention to those who might have information, should we launch into all-out investigation-assault mode? Or should we hold off on committing more money to a black-hole project until the evidence is so compelling that we simply must do it? At this time, I don't think we're at that point and I don't see the sense of committing what probably could quickly become billions (because people who smell money tend to make lots of smoke in order to keep their pockets filled), to something that even the whistle-blowers confirm looks pretty much like what we thought it was originally.
I'd rather be a truther than a liar. I cannot understand how so many people take what our political and media establishment say for gospel. If people would do a tiny amount of their own research they would truly be surprised.
Oh... but... but... I do believe... truly believe...will always believe in...
Santa Osama and his merry band of 19 elves and all the incredible magic they performed on that ever so special day so long ago.
Why?... cause people like TheBush told me it was so.
I think Osama Clause has a much better ring to it...
Good... Osama Claus! I like it.
"Osama Clause" is a bit to legalistic.
Secret Santa Osama bin Claus... maybe?
Hey, DP, actual comment from u--u go girl! - Ned
The other 432 are too busy getting kickbacks and drugs from JPM and GS.
I think Charlie Sheen also called for a new investigation back in 2009
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/obama-charlie-sheen-9...
I think George Washington is Charlie Sheen's pen name....they seem to share the same opinions.
I think you're the human equivalent of a rectal boil...you seem to share the same level of obnoxiousness.
I am Chumbawamba.
chumbawamba... the little boy living in his mom's basement with no credibility strikes again!!!!
Remember to have your Mom sterilize the needle first!
9/11 was an inside job involving the CIA, Mossad and MI-6. The actual mechanics of the controlled demolition of WTC was left to the Mossad with the cooperation of Silverstein Property management and Kroll Security Corp. All this info is available on Veteranstoday.com which has also written in detail the following:
The objective was to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Saddam had threaten to trade oil in EUROs rather than in US$. Afghanistan invasion was needed to prevent oil pipeline from Iran to China and to control Pakistan's nukes. So it was all about oil. Russia was in the know before the attack. Russia also wants to control China's growth.
Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile. So 3000 Americans were sacrificed for these bastards.
I was wondering why gas was so cheap....thanks!
Cheap?
3 trillion US$ in military spending over the past 9 years related to the wars? 3,000 dead because of 9/11, 5,000 dead soldiers and 100,000 physically or emotionally/mentally wounded soldiers? One plus million dead civilians is not cheap.
The lost of the greatest empire in history as well as the creation ofa police state to protect us from all the enemies we now have is not cheap?
No my friend, gas is not cheap. Historian 100 years from now will view 9/11 in the same way it views Godoy misleading Spain to invade France which resulted in the lost of its empire, Napoleon invading Russia and Germany opening up a second front in 1941.
Thats that new thing called sarcasm. Perhaps you've heard of it? Its all the rage these days.
9/11 was an inside job involving the CIA, Mossad and MI-6. The actual mechanics of the controlled demolition of WTC was left to the Mossad with the cooperation of Silverstein Property management and Kroll Security Corp. All this info is available on Veteranstoday.com which has also written in detail the following:
The objective was to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Saddam had threaten to trade oil in EUROs rather than in US$. Afghanistan invasion was needed to prevent oil pipeline from Iran to China and to control Pakistan's nukes. So it was all about oil. Russia was in the know before the attack. Russia also wants to control China's growth.
Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile. So 3000 Americans were sacrificed for these bastards.
You have to be saying that the tv stations knew in advance that they would be running doctored films of the crash of aircraft into the towers? And would NOT show a missile hitting the same? That US news media would collude with whomever to get and run those films and to avoid running the others, and it would never leak out that they did? Tough to believe.
Got any evidence?
They didn't get you though, did they?
Unfortunately.
You mean your wife is/was overweight and speaks loud?
(I'm a pundit man, and a real one, as you can see)
9/11 was an inside job involving the CIA, Mossad and MI-6. The actual mechanics of the controlled demolition of WTC was left to the Mossad with the cooperation of Silverstein Property management and Kroll Security Corp. All this info is available on Veteranstoday.com which has also written in detail the following:
The objective was to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Saddam had threaten to trade oil in EUROs rather than in US$. Afghanistan invasion was needed to prevent oil pipeline from Iran to China and to control Pakistan's nukes. So it was all about oil. Russia was in the know before the attack. Russia also wants to control China's growth.
Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile. So 3000 Americans were sacrificed for these bastards.