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As Pentagon Releases Details Of Osama Compound, Iran Claims bin Laden Killed Due To Risk Of Leaking Joint US-Al Qaeda Operations

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Minutes ago, the Pentagon released a 5 page powerpoint presentation showing exclusive details of the Abbottabad compound where bin Laden was supposedly killed (and where the PCR test to confirm he was in fact "he", took about 1/20th the time it usually takes in leading US Universities). And even as the Pentagon collects kudos from the population for spending hundreds of millions and taking ten years to eliminate a person who is now largely irrelevant tactically (if not symbolically), Fars News out of Iran proposes an alternative explanation of everything that happened on Sunday night: "The West was fully satisfied with bin Laden's performance during the
past years and today… it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible
leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had," member of the
parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Javad
Jahangirzadeh told FNA on Monday. Surely not something that the US public would want to hear...

From the Pentagon's just released powerpoint (full presentation here)

And here is Fars News with a radical counterexplanation of what really happened:

 TEHRAN (FNA)- The US has killed the Al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden, in a bid to prevent any possible leakage of intelligence and information about the US-Al-Qaeda joint terrorist operations, a senior Iranian legislator underscored on Monday.   

"The West was fully satisfied with bin Laden's performance during the past years and today… it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had," member of the parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Javad Jahangirzadeh told FNA on Monday.

He mentioned that the West seeks to rebuild its damaged face in the international community, and reiterated that Bin Laden's survival could endanger the interests of the western countries and disclose their past and future clandestine operations.

Jahangirzadeh warned the world countries that the West has hatched a new plot to find new pretexts for invading and occupying the Muslim countries.

Obama announced on Sunday that bin Laden was killed in a US operation in Pakistan.

Obama said he had directed helicopter-borne US armed forces to launch an attack against a heavily fortified compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan on Sunday acting on a lead that first emerged last August.

"A small team of Americans… killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body," Obama said.

Senior US officials said that in addition to bin Laden, three adult males died in the raid, two who were believed to be couriers for the Al-Qaeda leader, and one who was said to be one of his adult sons.

One woman who was being used as a human shield was also killed, the officials said.

 

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Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:28 | 1230174 TheGreatPonzi
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Swarms of anti-Iran and clueless American 'patriots': 1, 2, 3... 

That Ben Laden worked some time in partnership with the CIA is a fact no serious person denies. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:33 | 1230228 Global Hunter
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Can I be against both the Iran regime and whoever is backing the American one?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:36 | 1230251 TheGreatPonzi
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Yes. I am not a fan of the current Iranian regime too, but I oppose the mass media fearmongering about this country. Ahmadinejad never said he wanted Israel wiped off the map, for example, and also condemned repeatidly atomic weapons as being haram

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:11 | 1230447 kalasend
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Can I hate Ahmad for just his mustache?

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:12 | 1234374 BigJim
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8 junks for telling the truth... the zionists are out in force today.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:39 | 1230255 TIMMAYYY
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sure...you'll be a conspiracy theorist

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:30 | 1230461 The They
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According to former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, US had contact with Bin-Laden up until 9/11

edit: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7332

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:28 | 1230554 THE DORK OF CORK
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She has nice little pert breasts.......... just saying

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 21:18 | 1232476 dark pools of soros
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she could be killed next since they seem to be mopping it all up now - she does talk a little bit more than they would like

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:20 | 1234424 BigJim
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I just googled her. She looks Iranian to me - that's still a capitol crime, right?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 20:36 | 1232373 Bartanist
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As opposed to what?

"a mainstream media worshipper"

In that case I would much rather keep my objectivity and be called a "conspiracy theorist"... by definition a conspiracy theorist takes data point and fits them into a logical framework instead of just believing anything that the propaganda ministry feeds us.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:50 | 1230322 riley martini
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 The same banks finance both sides of a conflict with the agreement that the winner pays for the losses of the loser. Reconstruction financing is made before the conflict so is who will be financed enough to win. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:40 | 1230274 covert
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I just received the same info a couple of hours ago and more. usama renigged on part of an inside deal also. thus a greater reason for him being killed instead of captured.

http://covert2.wordpress.com

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:42 | 1230629 Thorlyx
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I also heard he bought some physical silver and shorted the S&P lately.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1230327 nah
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OBL was a big time hate monger and hes dead... big deal... he got alot of people into a big mess and sent out audio books about how happy he was

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that and the US empire is the best game in town... the world is crazy man, he had to know alot of people wanted him dead imean they guy loved brutality like a big boy

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:56 | 1230374 riley martini
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 Like Clint Eastwood in " Fist Full of Dollars " Osama played both sides for cash and fame. Worshiped by some hated by others. The real story will probably never be told.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:17 | 1230481 ml8ml8
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Never be told?  Are you kidding me?  I'll bet CNBC's Originals is already producing "Terror, Inc.:  Inside Bin Laden's Money-Making Machine," a nicely packaged 60 minutes of salacious and highly factualized truthiness detailing the side businesses UBL ran to fund his far flung terror operations.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:16 | 1230465 walküre
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"the US empire is the best game in town"

bull shit.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:32 | 1230581 Confuchius
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Q: How do you know they're lying?

A: Their mouths are open.

 

http://thedailybell.com/2211/Benazir-Bhutto-Bin-Laden-Was-Murdered.html%22

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:58 | 1230737 scratch_and_sniff
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"anti-Iran"? Who is pro-Iran? I dont even think Iranians are pro Iran, partly because of the fact that the whole nation is bulit on absolute horse shit and lies.

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:32 | 1231174 GeorgeHayduke
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Just like our economy.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:58 | 1231291 SheepHerder
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"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word...

...In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It has no other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have many other things to do. The struggle for jehad and the successes are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His bondsmen. Our silence is our real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or corrigendum only waste your time and through them, the enemy wants you to engage in things which are not of use to you. These things are pulling you away from your cause. The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness." -Usama Bin Laden 2002

http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

 

This guy could have been a ZH commenter with that insight...and that was 9 years ago he recognized this. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 23:49 | 1232817 Creed
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That Ben Laden worked some time in partnership with the CIA is a fact no serious person denies. 

 

 

it does not follow that helping Osama fight the Russians in Afghanistan in the 1980s means the CIA also helps Osama fight the Americans in the 2000s

 

you tinfoilers are ruining your precious few brain cells hanging out at Alex Jones, Prisonplanet, Rense, Ure, web bots, Sorcha Fail, etc

Alex should be proud of the army of "enlightened ones" he's created

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:29 | 1230184 Oh regional Indian
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Wow! Now that the power-point is out, we can all rest easy.

Remember Powell's UN power-point and how to the point it was.

Glad the power-point jockeys have the world's nuts in their expert hands.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/the-sound-of-drums-antar-naad/

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:58 | 1230369 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Power Point presentations are the highest standard of proof needed to blow someone away. If the 'target' is a US citizen the Power Point must be accompanied by a genuine imitation birth certificate."

This message brought to you by your local military industrial complex.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:13 | 1230464 Oh regional Indian
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CD, I have never felt thsi Cognitively Dissonant in my life. This week has been one twister (here's a hand to the Southerner's who felt what's comng to all of us)...

Positively spinning. Which is a good thing from time to time, really sharpens the balance point.

ORI

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:35 | 1230595 Confuchius
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And: After murdering their finest asset, they then murdered Benazir Bhutto.

Now, what three lettered "agency of murderers" would have done that?

 

http://thedailybell.com/2211/Benazir-Bhutto-Bin-Laden-Was-Murdered.html%22

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:29 | 1231158 Hephasteus
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Yup they just murdering everybody up in here.

Hide yo assets, hide yo sexy hot persian chics, hide yo ghadaffi childrens, hide everybody.

They just killing everybody up in here.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:49 | 1231246 Sweet Chicken
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+1 Antwan reference :thumbsup

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:33 | 1231181 GeorgeHayduke
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Everyone and anyone who has worked with the dark side better watch their backs as it appeasr they are thinning the herd. Those they consider expendable, untrustworthy or "outsiders" will likely be culled.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:38 | 1231200 jmc8888
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Well didn't Penetta get the nod to replace Gates?

So ex-CIA head will probably be our defense secretary.

I mean how open about it can they get?

Powerpoint...used by losers to get a sympathetic grade...from older technically illiterate teachers...since the 1990's.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:59 | 1230384 Jeff Lebowski
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Powerpoint makes it easier to see how far, exactly, was the location of the compound to his at-sea burial.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:13 | 1230459 Oh regional Indian
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Hah!

ORI

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:28 | 1230186 Trundle
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Search "Tim Osman".

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:28 | 1230188 Drag Racer
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cool, more cartoons drawn with Google Sketchup

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:31 | 1230192 Drachma
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Ah, the typical magazine cartoon image of 'proof', like the cartoon pictures of mass, mobile biological weapons units of Iraq, that Colin Powell shamelessly plastered up at the UN while warning of the return of satan as justification to blast Iraq into the stone-age. TD, why do you even bother.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:33 | 1230204 shushup
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How would Bin Laden get this intelligence information and how did we know taht he had it? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me but I'm glad he is dead. However I do not feel any safer from terrorists. Bin laden is only one of hundreds of thousands of weeds that want to kill us.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:33 | 1230222 High Plains Drifter
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oh so you think our enemy is those evil wascally moooslims......???

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:39 | 1230254 Bay of Pigs
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I thought the "terrorists" were those who opposed lifting the debt ceiling? 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1230365 Harlequin001
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yes, anyone with a common sense of decency...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:09 | 1230435 desgust
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IDIOT!!! The ROW hate  ONLY American I.D.I.O.T.s ! Unfortunately the majority!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1230572 DaveyJones
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I know, it's hard to feel safe when you go around all day in just your underwear

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:48 | 1231245 jmc8888
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Scared? It was a lucky strike.....or planned....either way...we had (still have, but different one) a dipshit who read the memo (or didin't) and did crap to stop it gets you scared?

Wow.

A few buildings out of a few hundred million in America gets one scared?

When was the point where we were supposed to feel FEAR from the terrorists? 9/11? Any day since then? The answer to both is neither, but I can understand the first.

Two wars, and we find him in a 3rd country.  Thanks idiots.  Which way did he go....well obviously where we weren't.

There is no more 'war on terror'.  It was to get him, he's gone.  They burned that card, time to bring our troops home....this time though, we still send aid, unlike after soviet withdrawl. 

You know one side of the political aisle just shit their pants for 2012. 

But of course, whoever doesn't run on a Glass-Steagall platform isn't fit for office, no matter the party/movement, which is just about everyone including Lipton.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:34 | 1230207 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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U.S Government/CIA/Al Qaeda/Israel - All the one same murderous criminal outfit - Killing in the name of.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:36 | 1230249 The Hawk
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time to bring everyone home and let the world do the job themselves...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:50 | 1230288 hedgeless_horseman
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If we did that then the Arabs we keep in power would surely fall, and their replacements may not allow us to set the price we pay (in USD) for their oil.

http://youtu.be/kUEGHdQO7WA

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:56 | 1230372 ibjamming
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I think the day's of them having ANYTHING to do with the price is just about over...  The war for oil is coming...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:06 | 1230402 hedgeless_horseman
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The war for oil is coming...

Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya?

Have you been living under a rock?  Watch this Sam Richards video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEGHdQO7WA

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:20 | 1230500 kridkrid
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Nice video... thanks.  Ron Paul wrote a similar article a year or so ago... the empathy position.  I shared it with some of my "conservative" friends... people don't like having to consider this position.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:23 | 1230525 Ruffcut
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Yes, he is living under a rock, but saved on his car insurance with geico.

So stoopid it is now getting stoopider.

Scientist for centuries have tried to figure out how the brain works. Why they have had so many obstacles is that so many brains, don't work at all.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:32 | 1230218 Cleanclog
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Iran is really mouthing off today.  Feeling left out?  

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:34 | 1230234 High Plains Drifter
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actors on the stage , performing their parts...........

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:42 | 1230620 NotApplicable
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You can almost see their strings.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:33 | 1230225 alien-IQ
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Does this lovely power point presentation have any pictures of this dead guy other than the already discredited ones floating around or is this another one of those "Trust me, it's the truth" moments?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:38 | 1230226 carbonmutant
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Markets just rolled over...

Short term euphoria.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:49 | 1230340 SheepDog-One
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Stocks rolled over red, dollar still solid dip into 72 handle region, wow who will they kill before the bell to boost stocks now?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:34 | 1230232 redpill
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Whatever the truth is, Fars News probably doesn't have it.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:03 | 1230405 kaa1016
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My point exactly. Now we get our facts from the Iranians. Really guys?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:13 | 1230458 redpill
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And you get junked if you point out the obvious that state-controlled Iranian news makes this shit up as they go along.  Might as well start posting articles from Weekly World News.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:32 | 1230578 Uncle Remus
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Shocking.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:37 | 1230240 gordengeko
Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:08 | 1230432 gordengeko
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One is just a characacher that smiles a lot, wears a funny looking suit and is friendly to kids.  Usually different people wear the same suit but still has the same affect on people.  Warm, cozy and waves to the nice americans.

 

The other is a cold, callus killer of humans.  He is pure evil, sadistic, sociopathic and wickedly intelligent.  No one knows where he came from or where he studied.  Questions have been raised but no solid answers proven.

 

The rasically rabbit must be destroyed! 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:19 | 1230495 Cpl Hicks
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He is known as 'the wascally wabbit', but otherwise I completely agree with you.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:26 | 1230527 gordengeko
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Didn't want to make it too obvious.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:40 | 1230603 carbonmutant
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Is the one with the ears John Kerry?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:35 | 1230246 bob_dabolina
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"it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had,"

Comex silver default.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:39 | 1230252 Kilgore Trout
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Bin Laden outlived his usefulness as a bogey-man. Time to invent something fresh.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 14:54 | 1230987 zerozulu
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is there anything else left to destroy in the world?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:39 | 1230266 narapoiddyslexia
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Google Earth - lat 34.187674 lon 73.242540

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:52 | 1230359 Widowmaker
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Excellent.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:57 | 1230385 narapoiddyslexia
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Sorry, I tracked down an image from CNN. Here are the coordinates for the image provided by the DOD - lat 34.169366 lon 73.242555

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:41 | 1230267 russwinter
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Is it just me, but is anybody else shaking their heads that OBL was finally killed (after ten years and billions in expense) sitting in an huge compound in a large Pakistani city, and a stone throw from a Pakistani military HQ.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:21 | 1230493 NidStyles
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It was a bit more than Billions junior. Try Quadrillions.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:27 | 1230533 Cpl Hicks
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But, but..Barry got to make that cool speech and all those college kids got to go out and have a party and the poll numbers gotta go up and it's onward and upward to Reelection 2012!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:40 | 1230273 sabra1
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Infowars:
A multitude of different inside sources both publicly and privately, including one individual who personally worked with Bin Laden at one time, told us directly that Osama’s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade and that his “death” would only be announced at the most politically expedient time.
Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1230321 ElixirMixer
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Really.

Citing Infowars.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:43 | 1230275 Lucius_Junius_Brutus
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10 Thugs with guns, a couple of bullets, a good map, a personal computer with a bundled copy of Microsoft Office Student edition: total cost of the operation: roughly 200 000 $. Who said the CIA wasn't cost effective? Oh wait...

 

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:44 | 1230282 jtaskinen
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Sorry people. Americans are the dummest and the most ignaorant clowns you can find on this planet. I really mean it. I do not know how you declined to where you are: high school, food, mass media, Hollywood. Whatever. Until now I have tried to understand these facts by exlaining them away, but it is impossible now. It really is impossible. Some ZH readers seem to live in a bubble, like you life is just endless soap opera, reality show, credit card debt.

How many Amaricans have ever encountered real life, real values? I bet: tiny minority. Never had to open your eyes, never needed to think as the hotel changes the door wider and there is even larger toilet seet to set your lard ass.

How did you decline to where you are? It is scarary to everyone on the planet as you still have an edge in smart bombs and cruise missiles.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:45 | 1230305 ghostfaceinvestah
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I blame the flouridated water

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1230323 bob_dabolina
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The 60's.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1230324 SilverIsKing
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"Americans are the dummest..."

Let me correct you.

They are the second dumbest behind jtaskinen.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:00 | 1230387 JohnG
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We're also "ignaorant."

 

BWwwaaaaaahahhaahahaaaaaaaa!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:58 | 1230394 jtaskinen
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I am really happy to watch you decline into abyss. I am actually very happy to see it taking place, everyday, as you all mightly dollar declines. I have made 35% alrealy, it is good to be on the same size of the trade with UST.

HAH. LOL.

Hope your failed state disappears ASAP and stops harming everyone else with some paranoid neo-con BS.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:04 | 1230421 JohnG
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Really need to work on that grammar and spelling before you make a complete dumbass out of yourself.

Oh wait....you already have.

Yet another moron, getting crowded in here.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:14 | 1230462 jtaskinen
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I got you. A sore point? Truth is always painful. Try to cope with your credit card bill and mortgage. Or do still think going to some fantastic shopping mall is the best thing you can dream of, to touch and fell some cheap plastic stuff made in China. And the saddest of all, you need to borrow to satisfy your emptly vanity.

Now, it has ended.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:25 | 1230514 NidStyles
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You're really that in love with yourself that you think you have us all figured out already. Never mind that our names are different, so none of our shopping habit's can vary at all. You really are retarded, aren't you?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:25 | 1230518 MachoMan
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I find it humorous that you hope for the empire's downfall, but in the same breath seem to be not the least bit worried about what the thrashing beast may destroy...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:26 | 1230542 topcallingtroll
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So what country do you live in?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1230570 Sophist Economicus
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Probably one of those enlighten places in the PU, err, I mean EU or old Soviet block where they spawn dictators every 30 or so years and wipe out half their population.   You know, those classy places

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:59 | 1230741 topcallingtroll
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You are definitely right about them not bathing and washing their clothes enough.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1230557 Sophist Economicus
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OK, take it easy.   Deep breath.   Being a second rate citizen of the world all these years does take its toll.   You'll soon have a chance to defend your boundaries all by yourself

 

In the mean time go take a shower and cool off.   Oh wait, I'm sorry, I'm imposing my cultural mores on you.   That's right, you don't bathe.   You stink up the place in the real world as well as in the virtual one.

 

My bad....

 

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 14:00 | 1230750 JohnG
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This seems like a direct ad hominem attack towards me.

I, for one, carry zero debt.

You generalize Americans, and ZH members, and you will get it wrong every time.

Ignorant fool that you are.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:16 | 1230469 Almost Solvent
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Don't worry, we will disappear soon enough.

 

Hopefully not before shooting off some ICBMs all over the globe and killing millions, if not billions.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:38 | 1230596 Uncle Remus
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Is that like, a money shot?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:25 | 1230512 earlthepearl
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I am not sure if you have noticed, but the rest of theworld is in the crapper too cheif
I think US is still the leader, just the leader of the crap heap,

I dont think you realize what you are wishing for, your shit bag country is probably still on the US teet
What is your 35% gain in, Euros? Yen? good luck with that

Sorry, US can still kick anyones arse, handly, if we and when we want

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:57 | 1230381 Raynja
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1 dumbest, ignorant
2 do you have a point
3 naive or gullible is a much bigger problem as they keep people ignorant

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:28 | 1230551 topcallingtroll
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So what great country are you from?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 19:08 | 1232120 Kayman
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I would guess he is from Finland.  You know the country that gave up half its land mass to Uncle Joe. The same country that kissed Hitlers arsehole raw.

America has its problems, but it is not as if someone that stereotypes all Americans, has any credibility.

Now go back to your Hitler Youth meeting. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:45 | 1230650 Watauga
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If you're going to try to criticize Americans using the English language, please learn it first.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 14:11 | 1230808 NotApplicable
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Wait a minute... I live in America, yet I have no smart bombs, nor cruise missiles. Nary a one!

So, am I scarary, or should I scarared?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:44 | 1230283 Newsboy
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Dead dogs tell no tales.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:45 | 1230292 goldstandard
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Truth? The first casuality of any war is always the truth. OBL served his purpose as a visual minedset to all things terror. At least that's the comapny line. He was probably dead years ago and whether this event is being used to make political brownie points you have to wonder if this is just a set up for something bigger in the wings that will provide those who need it a further continuence of the emergency war powers act ad infinitum. After all we have to keep the military industrial complex raking it in with a cottage industry designed to profit on death.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:43 | 1230293 Non Passaran
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Like he couldn't record everything and leave records with a lawyer to be opened in case of his (untimely) death.

I'm not buying this.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:24 | 1230529 MachoMan
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Do you really want to go talk to a lawyer with a bounty that large on your head?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1230300 Segestan
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Who cares what Iran says anyway... these nut jobs even outlaw the ownership of dogs as unclean. Fuck Iran.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1230301 Atomizer
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Hello Mister Obama. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to announce the killing of Osama Bin Laden. Should you fail in your mission we will disavow any knowledge of you and your mission.

Mission Impossible 1966 Pilot episode intro

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6169757555870018633#

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:45 | 1230304 QEsucks
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to even run some SNP arrays from a known control, a couple of hours. I'm guessing that pizza was free. Total BS. Not even within the realm of plausible, fantastical bs, just smoldering bullshit.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:30 | 1230566 topcallingtroll
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Before you make comments like that you should check out a modern hospital laboratory. It might surprise you.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1230307 anony
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There is always something rotten out back in the woodshed.

One thing we can be sure of: the people will NEVER be told the straight story.  And like Pinocchio, governors of all types have so badly fucked their own credibility they have only themselves to blame when the vast majority of the people don't believe them. All the world is a stage.....etc.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1230314 Sudden Debt
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News from Tehran... on ZH... I'm sorry, but I don't feel the need to follow up on crap like this.

They killed Osama!

It's not about the man! It's about the symbolism!! WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THIS?!

 

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:23 | 1230507 topcallingtroll
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I understand, but a head on a spike in the whitehouse lawn would be far better symbolism.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:34 | 1230594 Ethics Gradient
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Sudden, I hate to tell you, but you did just follow up.

As for the symbol, which one would you like?

1) Leader of the free world orders assasination of wanted criminal.

2) West sends a message to the Muslim world that you cannot obtain your goals through violence by killing man.

3) Real justice can only be obtained when someone dies.

4) Courts are irrelevant.

5) Military action in another sovereign country is fine - even without their knowledge.

I would have loved to see him go to trial. At the very least, it's what all the troops that died in Afghanistan deserved.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1231080 falak pema
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OBL'S symbolism goes beyond the stand off with USA; it concerns the soul of the so called muslim word when faced with western modernism. Osama represents the same regression in Islam as did Hassan-ibn-Sabbah, the founder of the Hashashin sect in 1100 when he murdered Nizam-ul-mulk, great Seljuk leader, and set the muslim world on fire. This regression sealed the fate of Seljuk rule and splintered the dying Caliphate of Baghdad further. Islam has never known the enlightenment in-spite its philosophers. Maybe today the Jasmine revolution is the beginning of what Mustapha Kemal started in Turkey. Let's hope this symbolic death of a regressionary leader will push the new generations of Arabs to seek for secular progress and not dogmatic decline into medieval savagery. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1231118 Sudden Debt
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What about:

You can try to run, but you can't hide!

or

You mess with us, and we don't only kill you but your entire family with it!

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 17:30 | 1231751 Ethics Gradient
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You're a scary creature.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1230320 thedrickster
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This week's sign of the apocolypse, Hamid Gul on Alex Jones.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 23:46 | 1232816 turds in the pu...
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most disturbing fact i've heard today

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1230333 tamboo
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why hang out in a dump like that when you've got a supercool dr. no-like

mega man cave?

http://i.imgur.com/xLse9.gif

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:06 | 1230428 TheGreatPonzi
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This idea of a mountain complex is quite ridiculous, for the simple reason it takes a lot of money (>100 million USD at a first glance) and qualified workers to make such a thing. So, unless Bin Laden is 100% sure of the loyalty of every single guy who worked for him... 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 00:47 | 1232923 StychoKiller
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Yeah, and where are the sharks with frikkin' LASER beams on their heads?? :>D

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 15:22 | 1231127 Sudden Debt
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Looks like level 5 of a video game shooter :)

 

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:49 | 1230339 JohnG
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" (and where the PCR test to confirm he was in fact "he", took about 1/20th the time it usually takes in leading US Universities)"

 

This "report" is complete bullshit, DNA matching takes AT LEAST 24 hours.  There's more to it than PCR.  Electrophoresis, photograph, match two samples.

Disinformation, complete and utter bullshit.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:08 | 1230441 RichardP
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I turned on the television about 9:03 p.m. PST Sunday night.  Saw the talking heads and heard that Obama was supposed to speak.  Went to Google News and read an article from Fox News.  Article said that Bin Laden was killed a week ago in a bombing raid on his compound.  DNA tests during the week revealed that it was indeed Bin Laden.  Then the President comes on the television and talks about Bin Laden being killed in a gunfight "today".  Jaw drops.  Went back to re-check the Fox article after the President's speech.  Couldn't find it.

They apparently matched Bin Landen's DNA against a sample from his sister who died in a Boston hospital recently.  Killed, DNA sample matched, body dumped at sea - all in one day?  The scenario in the Fox article seemed more likely to me, time-wise.

Without trying to figure out who is correct, I am intrigued that two versions of the event were put forth at the same time (Fox's and the President's).  Perhaps there were articles pre-written, covering various possible end-game scenarios, and Fox inadvertantly released the wrong one.  Perhaps, except for that it-takes-time-to-match-the-DNA thing.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:35 | 1230489 topcallingtroll
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There is no need to do pcr. I think they did rflp.

I believe they got the names confused. They have had quite some time now to do an electrophoresis and modern stuff is much faster than that.

You must be thinking about a primitive college lab!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 14:04 | 1230776 JohnG
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CDC nosocomial infection lab friend.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 14:08 | 1230803 JohnG
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The technique for RFLP analysis is, however, slow and cumbersome. It requires a large amount of sample DNA, and the combined process of probe labeling, DNA fragmentation, electrophoresis, blotting, hybridization, washing, and autoradiography could take up to a month to complete

 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:28 | 1230537 earlthepearl
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Whiel I agree this whole thing is fishy,

I am a molecular biologist and i can tell you that if you have his familial dna the PCR and analysis would only take a few (-4hrs)

The claim it takes days is only because when u get a test in the uS or in court they just have soo many smaples to process

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:50 | 1230345 JawsMusic
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Here it is in google maps...

 

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4x3sa76


Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1230351 Waterfallsparkles
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Don't you love all the intrigue?  Conspiracy theory's.  Maybe Osama was going to tell Americans that the CIA pulled off the 9/11 attacks. 

What about the US using Al Quida to fight in the Middle East?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1230353 entendance
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<...U.S. multinational corporations, the big brand-name companies that employ a fifth of all American workers, have been hiring abroad while cutting back at home, sharpening the debate over globalization's effect on the U.S. economy.
The companies cut their work forces in the U.S. by 2.9 million during the 2000s while increasing employment overseas by 2.4 million, new data from the U.S. Commerce Department show. That's a big switch from the 1990s, when they added jobs everywhere: 4.4 million in the U.S. and 2.7 million abroad...>
http://www.entendance.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=751&p=16707#p16707

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:07 | 1230442 jtaskinen
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Excatly. You got, they are moving on, and leaving ashes behind. They achieved what they wanted, they brainwashed in university people with trade theories, monetary theories and all rest...and they got what they wanted.

What I said about America earlier, does not apply on individual level. But somehow as a community, what a shame. You used to be the greatest nation on earth, a role model to everybody. You have turned into some very scary monster that is destroying not only life at home but everywhere else as well.

I really pray mercy of God to save my children. They are innocent.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:33 | 1230568 Cpl Hicks
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Peddle your poop on the Huffington Post or the DNCblog.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:36 | 1230601 JW n FL
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You,  jtaskinen understand that you are speaking to normal, regular people here.. we are not President Bush or President Obama.. You realize the most here in this site do not like either Bush or Obama.. most here hate the Federal Reserve.. Most here want nothing more that the truth and real change that benefits the working people of America more than the people who bribe / lobby the Federal Government.

 

Think about the type of people that you are speaking with and realize that there is a better than not chance that we hate the people you dis-like for the lies they spread.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 17:00 | 1231610 destiny
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Well said JW....you are totally right and I hope that our friend whereever he is understands that.   

Now, been watching US citizens in ths street shouting out their joy on the announcement of Tim's death, that was a weird feeling from out here in Europe, just made me feel like I was seeing islamists burning a US flag out in the street...makes you wonder on the thin difference between both behaviours.     This is what collective spirit is all about and this collective spirit is the fruit of a long conditioning from the very same you hate...

 

To close, Tim aja Osama has been dead for 10 years.  The last pictures of him in 2001 depicted a thin ill man as I believe he has to have dialysis, had white hair and a white beard....Strange that suddenly 10 yrs later we see a younger brown haired and bearded man....Must have died his hair and beard !! 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 00:49 | 1232930 StychoKiller
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Mubarak has pretty black hair for an Octogenarian  (some sort of Middle East fetish...)

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 08:11 | 1233291 Miss anthrope
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I work with an all-muslim organization and the older gentlement die their hair black.... white roots showing.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:44 | 1230642 Ruffcut
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Don't just pray for your children, perform due diligence and prepare and educate them.

Americans are not so much stupid, but in total and complete denial. They would rather discuss sports first than seek truth. But face it, most are happier than any realist here.

Uncomfortably Numb. Bitchezz.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 17:00 | 1231621 destiny
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Don't worry, americans are not the only ones in complete denial, Europe is as well.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 00:53 | 1232933 StychoKiller
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I would include the Chinese, Japanese, Australians (and pretty much everybody else!) in that club, too! :>(

Thinking is such hard work!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:59 | 1230401 Astute Investor
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Is that a satellite dish on top of the smaller building?  I thought the compound had no internet or communication capabilities?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:01 | 1230412 Atomizer
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Silence peasant!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:38 | 1230612 JW n FL
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You are doing God's Work and Bless You for holding the line!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:47 | 1230660 Ruffcut
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No, it is a tinfoil hat deflector unit, silly.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:07 | 1230436 bob_dabolina
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Negative ghost rider

Two sattelites.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:40 | 1230609 JW n FL
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LIAR!!! find him at once and Jail him for his LIES!!!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:12 | 1230449 pazmaker
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Astute,  looks like two satellite dishes.  A larger one the building behind the house and then a smaller inside the 18 ft wall.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:39 | 1230607 JW n FL
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LIAR!!! find him at once and Jail him for his LIES!!!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:18 | 1230476 RichardP
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There is a satellite dish in the rendering released by the Pentagon.  Also, early reports were that the compound was at the end of a road.  The Google Maps compound is along a road.  The fog of war.  Lots of "facts" incorrect.  Eventually, the incorrect stuff will get corrected and a more trustworthy picture of the events will emerge.  Maybe.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 00:52 | 1232938 StychoKiller
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Toss Astute Investor into the memory hole! :>D

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:26 | 1230526 Sophist Economicus
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Quadraphonic Hi Fi input - the guy was into rap

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