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Pentagon Warns Of M.A.D. Should The War Powers Act Be Enacted And US Withdraw Its Troops From Libya

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Who says Mutual Assured Destruction is to be used only by bankers: our military leaders appear to have mastered the strategy of getting what they want to warning about all hell breaking loose, just as effectively. Reuters reports that should Congress pursue a resolution to withdraw from the humanitarian Libyian oil liberation force, currently headed by Sarkozy, it would send
an "unhelpful message of disunity" to allies and foes alike. "Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell said that "once military forces are committed, such actions by Congress can have significant consequences," particularly on relations with members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. "It sends an unhelpful message of disunity and uncertainty to our troops, our allies and, most importantly, the Gaddafi regime," Morrell said in a statement in Singapore, where Defense Secretary Robert Gates arrived on Thursday to attend a security dialogue with Asian allies...Kucinich's measure would invoke the 1973 War Powers
Resolution to direct Obama to stop the U.S. participation in the
war. Kucinich says Obama violated the part of the law that
prohibits U.S. armed forces from being involved in military
actions for more than 60 days without congressional
" Kucinich seems to forget that reminding a constitutional lawyer about constitutional abuses is actually racist. And more importantly, what excuse will those hundreds of billions in "defense spending" by the US government have if America's military is relegated to "bankster" status in terms of utility.


The Pentagon reaction came after the Republican-led House on Wednesday delayed a vote on the resolution, sponsored by Democrat Dennis Kucinich, so lawmakers would have more time to weigh their options on the Libya conflict.

NATO is leading the intervention in Libya with a U.S. contribution but there are no U.S. troops on the ground there.  

 The operation aims to enforce a U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing the protection of Libyan civilians from attacks by Gaddafi's forces, which are fighting rebels trying to oust the long-time leader.

The U.S. role has been controversial in Congress since Obama notified lawmakers on March 21 that he had ordered the intervention as part of a multinational coalition conducting air strikes to shield civilians.

Kucinich's measure would invoke the 1973 War Powers Resolution to direct Obama to stop the U.S. participation in the war. Kucinich says Obama violated the part of the law that prohibits U.S. armed forces from being involved in military actions for more than 60 days without congressional authorization.

That said it is good to know that republicans are truly concerned about discretionary spending cuts, among which defense spending tends to be at the very top:

House Speaker John Boehner told a news conference on Thursday the Kucinich resolution probably would be dealt with on Friday after Republicans meet to talk about Libya.

"We'll see what our members have to say, but I expect that this issue will be resolved tomorrow," he said. Asked if some alternative proposals might also be on the floor, he said, "we're going to have a conversation with our members today and we'll see what they have to say about it."

And if M.A.D. fails, there's always crocodile tears.


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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:56 | 1333413 the not so migh...
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Get the fuck out of this Obama war.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:01 | 1333447 XenoFrog
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days, not weeks. honest injun.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:07 | 1333493 Weisbrot
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unless we are colonizing get our troops out of MENA - NOW



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:48 | 1333907 dark pools of soros
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They are..  remember the rebel central bank??   These days colonizing is putting a country into debt.  Nothing more nothing less.  And 'we' is just the current hired thugs doing bankster evil doer type stuff

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:38 | 1334066 Crassus
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Artificially pacify, dollarize, rebuild infrastructure using crony contractors, anoint lackeys, IMF/World Bank loan with bonds underwritten by TBTF bank and guaranteed by taxpayer, lackeys steal money and deposit it back in TBTF bank, emerging nation can't even pay interest on loan, default, TBTF bank owns all resources and labor in the new nation until next revolution.

Don't mess with a time proven formula.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:26 | 1334412 Rick64
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 Except when they are in danger of defaulting they get Structurally Adjusted Programs (SAP) in which the IMF rolls over the debt via new loans then imposes policies of austerity (entitlement cuts, higher interest rates, lower wages, ect..) and privatization of any national resources and companies that are left. After yrs. of austerity then comes the revolution in which they switch sides and support it or hijack it.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 03:13 | 1334989 jeff montanye
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"a mind that's weak and a body that's strong"

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:21 | 1333574 Henry Chinaski
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humanitarian airstrikes, lead from behind

what a bunch of horseshit

just once, give us M. A. D.  it might not be so bad

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:02 | 1334261 New_Meat
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please take on the  role of self-assured-destruction.

- Ned

(and you are not worth a junk, "henry")


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:11 | 1334769 natty light
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Are those days on c.p. time?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:08 | 1333483 Manthong
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If I didn’t know better I’d say that all this Arab spring rising up and Bin Laden dog wagging was a put on to distract from the impending domestic economic disaster.

Sure glad I know better. /sarc

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:19 | 1333542 DaveyJones
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"such actions by Congress can have significant consequences"

Thought that idea was designed in by the founders 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:26 | 1333587 skepticCarl
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:49 | 1333691 DaveyJones
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sad when a dead pirate has to remind them that there's rules

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:04 | 1333732 Miss Expectations
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But, right ye arrrrrr.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:01 | 1333933 Uncle Remus
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More like guidelines...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:45 | 1334083 DaveyJones
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The Bill of Suggestions

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:17 | 1334297 WizDumb
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written in dissappearing ink

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:05 | 1334415 Rick64
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 22:41 | 1334698 Seer
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I'll second that!

Great work folks, this was some seriously funny shit!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:59 | 1333727 Blues Traveler
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DJ, Amen.  You are one of the few guys I scroll to find postings..In the words of Martin Armstrong, we no longer have a balance of power, legislative, Judicial and Execuitve have become one syndicate, protecting each other's interest.


- Journey Well

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:11 | 1334292 WizDumb
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The Militatry Industrial Complex wants to be a full fledged Branch of Government....
I don't think they will take 'NO' for an answer...

Already Gone:
Posse Commitatus...
Habeous Corpus...
Right to be secure in your home...

The USA does not exist anymore...
It quit.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:17 | 1334002 redpill
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What's wrong with showing disunity when we are disunified.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 22:48 | 1334719 Seer
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Exatcly!  I say we should be united in our disunity!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:13 | 1334766 natty light
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Due to being cheerleadered by our UN rep and Hillary, it is referred to as the "Estrogen War."

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 02:48 | 1334983 SoCalBusted
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War? What war?  It is a kinetic military action.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:57 | 1333422 Hugh G Rection
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Kucinich seems to forget that reminding a constitutional lawyer about constitutional abuses is actually racist.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:55 | 1333432 TheTmfreak
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Replied to this at the same time you did. Absolutely a riot of a statement.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:08 | 1333468 dwdollar
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As outrageous as this statement may seem, it's really not.  Someone out there will use it.  I can imagine something similar to the following...

"A free Libya will give humanitarian access to Sudan.  If you are against freeing Libya, you are racist."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:08 | 1333499 Trundle
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Fuck Bono.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:09 | 1333508 TheTmfreak
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:17 | 1333535 DaveyJones
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second that

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:22 | 1333563 citrine
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:09 | 1333505 Weisbrot
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A true American Constitutional lawyer would respect the Constitution.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:41 | 1333884 ColonelCooper
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What are you trying to say, that he's from Kenya?  Why do you hate black people?


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:44 | 1333894 Rodent Freikorps
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You know what is sad? It has taken 40 years for the average American to realize what a load of bullshit throwing the racist card has been.

How many lives have been destroyed to this point?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:16 | 1333988 AnAnonymous
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Typical US citizen behaviour: displaying a behaviour that has no existence on the spot and stating later the consequences of it.


US citizens use race card as an example to show how the use of it is stupid.

Nobody used it save the guys who used it as a way to show how bad it could be. Very US citizen.

The US citizen nature is eternal.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:39 | 1334067 Rodent Freikorps
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I'm a US citizen.

Fuck off.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:06 | 1334749 Seer
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Ya think that actions have consequences?

How about I start a country in which I get 150 years head start, I get to create wealth and you don't, and then after the 150 years we call it all even?  Businesses would love to have a long period in which they can control the market (head start).

Do stupid shit and it'll come back to bite you- blowback.  And that's pretty much what's happening now.  And no, I don't like all the affirmative action stuff either, but it's the price of earlier (stupid) decisions.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 02:18 | 1334959 AnAnonymous
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US citizens have perfected the art of making money out of blowback.

US citizens look for blowback, they are to antagonizing others, spoiling for a fight.

Bully type. And just like bullies, when the action starts, all the antagonizing done previously does not matter, the US, just like bullies, is always a victim. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:42 | 1333658 mtomato2
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Kucinich seems to forget that reminding a constitutional lawyer about constitutional abuses is actually racist...


I, too, totally LOL'd that.  And I NEVER LOL things.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:57 | 1333424 TruthInSunshine
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When the Constitution gets in the way, just ignore it.

I think George Washington, Benjamin Franklin or maybe even Thomas Jefferson said that.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:03 | 1333450 Cdad
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And what's more, who wants disunity when Constitutional violations are going on?  Spoils the whole centrally planned, global cooperation party.

Would John Boehner please report to the Central Banker party room for the special "gathering" behind the heavy "door"...paging John Boehner.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:11 | 1333496 JW n FL
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1) House and Senate Renew PATRIOT Act With No Modifications
National Security Letters Increasingly Used on Americans
Proposed Senate Bill Would Add Civil Liberties Protections
Senators Raise Concerns on DOJ's Interpretation of PATRIOT

1) House and Senate Renew PATRIOT Act With No Modifications

On May 26, the House and Senate renewed three controversial provisions of law related to the USA PATRIOT Act that were set to expire the next day.  The renewal was passed in the form of an amendment to an unrelated bill, S. 990, that itself temporarily extended authorities of the Small Business Administration.  Despite efforts by individual Senators to introduce modifications to the Act's intelligence authorities, the final bill simply renewed the expiring provisions until June 1, 2015 without changes.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:52 | 1333703 pazmaker
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sucks doesn't it?   and on top of that they mock every good american by calling that think the PATRIOT act.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:09 | 1333765 Miss Expectations
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When will Patriots Act?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:42 | 1333871 DaveyJones
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isn't that the most Orwellian component? It accomplishes its reverse though fear and usurpation.   

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:24 | 1334316 WizDumb
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more like the riot act...


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:52 | 1334706 GoinFawr
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Didn't The Bangles do a song like that once?
"Act like a Peh-tree-aught"


I deserved that (junk)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:34 | 1334195 XPolemic
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I've always thought it ironic that the most treasonous piece of legislation ever enacted in the United States is called the PATRIOT act. I guess patriotism is the last refuge of the traitor.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 02:49 | 1334981 SoCalBusted
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This is true for practically all legislation.  The legislation will have the opposite effect from its given name.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:19 | 1335179 thriftymost
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Treason is the last refuge of the patriot.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:16 | 1334155 Optimusprime
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Damn them.  Damn them to hell.  To quote George Patton, "This has gone far enough!!!!"

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:13 | 1333513 Weisbrot
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perhaps it was William Jefferson



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:17 | 1333534 Spastica Rex
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George Jefferson.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:24 | 1333570 DaveyJones
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well were movin on down

to the westside

from a defaulted mortgage in the sky eye eye. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:47 | 1333673 mtomato2
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I get it.


eye eye.  funny, that.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:20 | 1333545 Alienated Serf
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george jefferson

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:36 | 1334201 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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I think it might have been Lincoln.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:57 | 1333425 Ancona
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Well, I doubt if we will leave Libya any timne soon. The PTB need this war to maintain access to the oil. We will continue to dump millions of dollars per day to defend "our" oil.

Obama is simply their tool, and will do as he's told.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:10 | 1334143 Alpha Monkey
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Not so sure it's the oil that we're after, as opposed to maintaining the image of the dollar.  Gadaffi wanted to stop accepting dollars for oil, start a new golden aftrican currency, and require oil be payed for in gold.


Similar to one Sadam person who wanted to stop accepting dollars for oil, and require Euros... 

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:36 | 1335243 thriftymost
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Don't forget about making the world safe for Israel.  The more dead Arabs, the safer.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:58 | 1333426 TheTmfreak
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Edit: See above.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:55 | 1333428 string
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War is peace, bitchez.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:05 | 1333460 TheTmfreak
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No freaking kidding. War for humanitarian causes my ass. Even using their own name game against them, how many "innocents" do we kill for humanitarian reasons?


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:33 | 1333849 naughtius maximus
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Bombs for babies!


, Bitchez (of course)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:50 | 1333567 1911A1
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Edit:  Hmm... Capture said my math was wrong...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:24 | 1333593 1911A1
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:48 | 1333676 mtomato2
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+ (2 x 1984)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:56 | 1333437 sunnydays
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It really is amazing now how the U.S. constitution is left behind.  Those in power are getting away with literally murder!  How can all of them ignore the constitution?  Why aren't the U.S. people standing up and demanding they live up to the constitution?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:08 | 1333481 Shameful
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Why don't cattle rise up and refuse to get on the trucks going to the slaughter houses?

Go out and look into the eyes of your fellow Americans, you'll get your answer.  They neither know nor care about the Constitution.  The mass man is quite pleased to live in the world of his masters making.  A world that is not burdened by such things as choice or responsibility and full of all manner of distractions and entertainment.  After all why do anything when the TV is on and fast food and booze(drugs) slow freely?  And when trouble rears it's head they will console themselves in the emotions fed to them and revel in the two minute hate.  Americans won't even realize something is wrong until the rug is totally pulled out.  we are catching a taste of it as some people shake themselves partially awake to the real world, but it is the minority.  But as dependant as the mass man is they will cry out to the abusers to save them from their abuse.

And quite frankly all it really takes is to higher half the population to oppress the other half.  surely you have noticed how democracy has replaced the republic.  And odd how many live off of government (public) largess.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:13 | 1333514 Trundle
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Who signed up for Pinnochio and Fun Island?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:15 | 1333524 Alienated Serf
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oceania has always been at war with eurasia... Sometimes my wife backslides with the mindless entertainment (though baseball is my self admitted mindless entertainment).  She made the mistake of switching to one of those american idol like shows; the judges were mocking a clearly mentally ill woman while the crowd hooted and hollered.  I was forced to scream that she was no better then Romans cheering on beasts devoruring children in the collesium. I started reading 1984 for the first time in 20 years yesterday; it is frightening how close orwell got it.
Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:50 | 1333695 mtomato2
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You are going to HATE 1984.  It's all bad.  I had forgotten how badly the good guy looses.  Sorry, spoiler alert.  Since I re-read it last year, My eyes are all opened up anew.  It is very, very, very disturbing.

And no, this time isn't like other times.  This time IS different.

Good luck.  Don't read it alone at night.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:09 | 1333762 Gully Foyle
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Fuck dude you REALLY want to know what it's all about read The Illuminatus Trilogy.

Talk about a wake up call.

Don't believe me? Google up how damn near every candidate for president is realted to each other and the British monarchy. Google up how Osama was sacrificed on Mayday.

Everyone thinks it's all about the money and the old ways are tossed aside.


If you know their names they are the ones who don't hold true power. If you can point to a single result of TPTB's actions, you missed the other five.


‘He was, in fact, characteristic of the best type of dominant male in the world at this time. He was fifty-five years old, tough, shrewd, unburdened by the complicated ethical ambiguities which puzzle intellectuals, and had long ago decided that the world was a mean son-of-a-bitch in which only the most cunning and ruthless can survive. He was also as kind as was possible for one holding that ultra-Darwinian philosophy; and he genuinely loved children and dogs, unless they were on the site of something that had to be bombed in the National Interest. He still retained some sense of humor, despite the burdens of his almost godly office, and, although he had been impotent with his wife for nearly ten years now, he generally achieved orgasm in the mouth of a skilled prostitute within 1.5 minutes. He took amphetamine pep pills to keep going on his grueling twenty-hour day, with the result that his vision of the world was somewhat skewed in a paranoid direction, and he took tranquilizers to keep from worrying too much, with the result that his detachment sometimes bordered on the schizophrenic; but most of the time his innate shrewdness gave him a fingernail grip on reality. In short, he was much like the rulers of Russia and China.’

Quote From The Illuminatus! Trilogy…
Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:32 | 1333852 Chuck Walla
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This fits brilliantly with the Godfather of modern propaganda.


“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."

~Edward Bernays

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:56 | 1333922 tip e. canoe
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nice point here:

I feel that more effort should be put out to teach people conditioning methods and controlled opposition tactics. If we understand the basics of psychological warfare then it can't be used against us.;read=203740

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:58 | 1334257 Cathartes Aura
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nice one Gully.  23 enigma. skidoo!  *wink*

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:04 | 1333781 GoinFawr
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"Down and out in Paris and London" is a worthwhile read too, if you're interested.

It's the antonym of Niall Ferguson's "House of Rothschild-The World's Banker" in every way. IE "Down and Out..." is concise, rather than long-winded, interesting rather than dry toadying, and more realistic than NF's fawning 'biographies'. Not to mention the perspectives of the characters and their anecdotes are polar opposites, but in the same setting. (NF's obsequious tome covers centuries all over Europe in its wearisome 800 or some odd pages.)

OTOH I still recommend you grit your teeth and read NF's book too(library), if only for the purposes laid out by Sun Tzu and many other wise strategists. IMO Niall tries desperately to overstate the good and understate the bad, yet despite his best efforts there are hard truths he is simply unable to disguise. Warning: for me it was quite a boring, tedious slog to get through it.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:31 | 1334181 Optimusprime
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+1.  Very good analysis on both Orwell and Ferguson.  Thanks.  


The problem for our rulers might be summed up as having to decide whether or not it is necessary  (from their point of view) to transition from the Aldous Huxley "soft" totalitarianism of Brave New World to the "hard" totalitarianism of Orwell's 1984.   It is well to remember that in either case, the rulers stay on top, while the "subjects" endure what they must. 

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:58 | 1335998 GoinFawr
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Heh, or even a blend, a kind of a 'Brave, New 1984'?

Still, you can be socially mobile as long as the alcohol content in your gestation tube was low enough

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:13 | 1334775 Seer
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Watch the movie "Brazil."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:15 | 1333540 Spastica Rex
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How, exactly, has "democracy" replaced "the republic?"

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:23 | 1333585 augie
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What are you talking about? They are the same thing. The man on the T.V. told me.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:48 | 1333687 Spastica Rex
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Yeah, I guess I'm not understanding the word "democracy."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:51 | 1333699 mtomato2
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PLEASE tell me Spastica is kidding...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:58 | 1333723 Alienated Serf
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:28 | 1334167 MichaelNY
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Just in case you aren't kidding: <a href="">Terrorists Created Democracy</a> with the young Aaron Russo.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 22:05 | 1334617 GoinFawr
Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:47 | 1333683 mtomato2
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You forgot the

/sarcasm off


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:02 | 1333734 augie
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i think its there.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:01 | 1333935 Ruffcut
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Just watch this cute little documentary and feel all warm and fuzzy,inside.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:54 | 1333698 tarsubil
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Aha! They haven't accounted for Barney. Barney meets his monthly dissident beating quota but he is actually a friend of the Freeman.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:52 | 1333917 mayhem_korner
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And quite frankly all it really takes is to higher half the population to oppress the other half.

The 'hired half' is getting paid in food stamps...45M and counting

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1334278 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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Nay sir, the hired half refers more likely to the likes of TSA, DEA, the cops, and the prison guards.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:24 | 1334013 AnAnonymous
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Master piece of logics. The mass is apathetic, enough to let the masters do to their wishes but not enough to forget how to oppress the other half through democracy.

Some people live in such world, wooo, OZ land and all. Incredible waste of energy to build a world of illusion.

People screaming about the so called abuse of the US constitution are only people in most cases who are falling on the wrong side of the fence.

The US has been duplicitous since the beginning and has been mocking its own laws since the beginning. Nothing new. Only the continuation of what the US is at heart.

The mass has not been changing their way. Only people who now get to see the face of the US from the other side.


The US citizen nature is eternal.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:47 | 1334818 Parousia
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+ 1788


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:20 | 1333552 FubarNation
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Because the majority of the US population couldn't even recognize a copy of the constitution if you rammed it up their ass.  They don't give a shit as long as the six packs are available at the Quicky Mart, Idol is on the tube, and the latest copy of People made it to their mail drop.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:31 | 1333608 Alienated Serf
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i would place a hefty bet that less then 5% of americans could tell you what continent libya is on.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:52 | 1333701 mtomato2
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:13 | 1333768 I Told YOU So
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agreed.... next time you're at the DVM, look around, that truly is a fully represented slice of america. no wonder we're all fucked.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:33 | 1333862 Chuck Walla
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But they all sure were taught how to get a condom on a cuke, I'll bet.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:11 | 1333980 Spastica Rex
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HA! I see your trick! See, Africa is a COUNTRY, not a CONTINENT!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 03:14 | 1334991 LudwigVon
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:43 | 1334480 OldTrooper
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:42 | 1334481 OldTrooper
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Because the majority of the US population couldn't even recognize a copy of the constitution if you rammed it up their ass.

Well, I too might not be able to distinguish it from other uncomfortable foreign objects if you did that with it!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333553 FubarNation
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Mind blowing really.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:12 | 1334764 Seer
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But... these wars create great plot lines for all the war vid games!  People need new games! (so they can hone their skills at running the REAL push-button wars!)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:10 | 1333439 Mercury
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Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell said that "once military forces are committed, such actions by Congress can have significant consequences,"

Of course he has it exactly backwards. The way the country is supposed to operate is: once [and only if] Congress is committed, actions by military forces can [be expected to] have significant consequences.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:00 | 1333455 Hedgetard55
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Withdraw what troops from Libya? We have none there, supposedly.

Bush started not one but two wars he either could not or would not finish. Obama has expanded that to three for now.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:53 | 1333705 mtomato2
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...And he's KEEPING his Peace Prize bauble.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:12 | 1333989 Spastica Rex
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He's vizualizing world peace. Somebody else can actualize it.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:05 | 1333964 Cynthia
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Sometimes I feel like the Moon revolving around the Earth, watching and reporting on all the state-sponsored corporate crimes being committed by the likes of Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon. Let's hope the O'Bomber doesn't order his fellow war criminals at the Pentagon to shoot me down on the grounds that I'm some sort of al-Qaeda terrorist. However, as much as it pains me to say it, I do think that the O'Bomber, despite being a Nobel peace winner, is so in love with war that he won't think twice about destroying the planet in order to save what's left of the American Empire, even if it means reducing it a mindless asteroid floating aimlessly around the Sun.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1333461 shushup
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Alert the Press: The world will come to an end if I do not get my way.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:37 | 1333864 SilverIsKing
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Did you happen to hack into Weiner's Twitter account?  Just askin'.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:05 | 1333463 apberusdisvet
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Libya has always been about Gaddafi's attempt to form an African currency union, backed by (you guessed it) the gold dinar and for his refusal to be part of Africom.  The elites don't like these no-nos, as they would lose all semblance of control.  The result of this "hunanitarian" activity is that the elites get to control more oil, get gold to replenish CB vaults, and control the largest water aquifer in Africa.  If it hasn't dawned on you yet that the US military is the enforcer of all global banking elite policy, then there is no hope left for all of us.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:17 | 1333557 Spastica Rex
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the US military is the enforcer of all global banking elite policy

Precisely, and we will all know that the jig is up on the empire eaxctly when the boots start coming home.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:15 | 1334301 Cathartes Aura
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excellent summation, apberusdisvet.

it really helps to visualise "the world" as the financialists do, as a whole, with arbitrary nationstates going about their tasks. . . amrka expanded to absorb & use the continent's natural resources, economic growth fed the coffers, until the corpse-orations moved on, to "third world" nationstates for their labour/resource exploits. . . now amrka provides world policing, massive weaponry, covert "weather ops" - and teevee/movie propaganda.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 02:21 | 1334964 AnAnonymous
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the US military is the enforcer of all global banking elite policy, then there is no hope left for all of us.


The US army enforces the US foreign policy, just like the bankers cartel enables it.

How many Chinese, Indians, Africans, South Americans in your global banking elite? Most of them are US citizens.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:03 | 1333467 tmosley
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Trav would solve this problem by castrating anyone who disagreed with him.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:29 | 1333615 skepticCarl
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Let Trav speak for himself, please.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:37 | 1333639 Alienated Serf
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i would love to see tyler open up a blank post with comment rights assigned only to tmos and trav.  would be great entertainment for us proles.

that being said, trav's racial/eugenics non-sense is truly disgusting.  we already tried sterilizing scores of handicapped/criminals/etc. during the first half of the 20th century, it did not improve anything.  big part of the rockefeller agenda...


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:25 | 1334791 Seer
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Back in the early 1900s eugenics was a big thing among a LOT of the white elites

"we already tried sterilizing"

Now it happens via Monsanto, Dow and externalized costs (environmental damage from things like toxic dumping).

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:04 | 1333469 American Sucker
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If the measure fails, start impeachment proceedings.  Impeach, remove from office, arrest, extradite to The Hague, try, convict, hang.

After that, Bush.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:13 | 1333510 aheady
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Please explain what you think that would change.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:40 | 1333637 American Sucker
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Oh yeah, you can't do it once.  You have to keep doing it until it stops.  But you have do it once, first.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:00 | 1333720 aheady
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Sounds a bit like the definition of insanity.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:03 | 1333726 pazmaker
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yes the left hand is going to spank the right hand or the right hand is going to spank the left hand.  A house divided cannot stand.   Don't be dilusional.  All of our politicians are corrupt and they don't serve the people....well at least not the common man..they serve the elite.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333753 aheady
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Sanity alert!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:04 | 1333476 I Told YOU So
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was watching "Woodstock" again over the weekend, amazing was the youth of yesteryear were able to accomplish and the pressure put on the scum in DC.


today we are all sheeple and deserve what we are getting, with much worse to come.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:06 | 1333488 SoNH80
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You mean a bunch of hippies smoking grass and taking brown acid in the mud of upstate New York accomplished something?!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:13 | 1333509 Mercury
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Yeah, they got behind the steering wheel and we're at the back of the bus!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:15 | 1333521 Weisbrot
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seems more like being thown under the bus



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:16 | 1333528 SoNH80
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True that!  And, hmm, come to think of it, they may have levitated the Pentagon!-- after inventing the polio vaccine and ringing in the Age of Aquarius, 1000 years of peace, luv, 'n stuff, man!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333529 Translational Lift
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They are all now "our" bankers, teachers and civil servants..........

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:55 | 1333715 mtomato2
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...hey, wait!... those are OUR jets now...




Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:05 | 1333735 Rodent Freikorps
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Ron Silver.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:20 | 1333815 mtomato2
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Man.  You really know your stuff.  Proud to know ya.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:23 | 1333826 Rodent Freikorps
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I'm a political junkie with a photographic memory.

Take care.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:16 | 1333530 Ms. Erable
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Yup. Those are the fuckers that currently run the banking cartel for their owners, and sit in CONgress to enforce their master's will (for a fee, of course).

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:20 | 1333550 Rodent Freikorps
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Sure they did. They went on to become boomers and broke the country expecting everyone else to pay for their socialist bullshit.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:37 | 1333640 equity_momo
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And the irony is they think theyre all free market capitalists.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333737 samsara
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No, no no.  Using Animal House as the example.

Delta Tau Chi  were the Hippies.

It was Omega Theta Pi, the goodie-goodie, skull and bones guys like Doug Neidermeyer, Gregg Marmalard that went on to run GS, JPM, Congress et al


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:22 | 1333578 I Told YOU So
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you miss the point: anti war protests were loud and in the news, today nothing of the sort. all happy and sedated. the reason they're not after you yet is because they are not ready, not because they are afraid of you. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333749 samsara
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THAT was the moment in US history that the TPTB decided on a multi-year agenda to completely control the media so we will NEVER see body bags, Demonstrations,  Millions of people in the street, etc  EVER AGAIN ON TV.

AND started the multi-year agenda of dumbing down the schools,  NO Critical Thinking taught...


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:03 | 1333957 Ruffcut
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Critical thinking is not taught, it is learned.

For most people, it is too much fucking work to think outside the yard, let alone the box.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:53 | 1334093 Uncle Remus
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There is no box. Or Spoon.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:01 | 1333722 samsara
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Is that what you learned from the MSM of what the event and times were about?

I forgot,  all the kids under 40 only know what MSM has TOLD them the times were like.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:23 | 1333824 High Plains Drifter
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well not really. the anti war movment was controlled opposition and the hippie movment was also. all of this was just another leg down in the destruction of our culture. the vietnam war, besides creating massive war debts to you know who and massive casualites for those who enjoy death and destruction and massive profits for the military industrial complex, it also, provided numerous drug addicts to buy the drugs that certain individuals had to supply them with , here , after they got home from the war. these drugs that were sold to them, came from the same area where they were fighting......imagine that. so the war on drugs is fought by the very people who are the main suppliers of drugs.  so you control both sides of the argument and you will always win and when you lead the opposition, you will control that opposition. so we lost a whole generation of american youth and this caused numerous problems as the curses that were prevalent in my generation, spread to the next, and on and on it today, the same thing is happening.....and the goy never learn or understand......

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:34 | 1334196 Optimusprime
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Teach, brother.

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