Perot Insider Trader Is A Hostage Rescue Hero

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Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:22 | 79874 donatoloscalzo
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Tyler, as usual you said it perfectly..........

 

In my country they say:  "strong with the weak, weak with the strong........."

 

A perfect epitaph....................

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:29 | 79884 monmick
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That is an interesting saying that I had never heard before. What country is that?

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:56 | 80046 Anonymous
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The US I think!

Its a joke - the main targets, or prosecutions are Martha Stewart, Mark Cuban and this former hero. Celebrities and JOE 6p endure the wrath for petty crimes. The powerful commit heinous acts and get off scot free. I suppose it has always been thus...save the times of Andrew Jackson and The Redcoats before that.

That saying is so accurate.

All I gotta say is Michael Moore better ensure he is paid up with the IRS.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:22 | 80064 lizzy36
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The good news is movie is co-producded by brothers Weinstein.  One guess on who raised $1b for the Weinsteins. 

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 19:42 | 80120 Miles Kendig
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The song remains the same.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:27 | 79878 Cognitive Dissonance
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I remember this. While it was supposedly non governmental, in fact the CIA was heavily involved. I wonder if this Reza guy is a member of the CIA "family" and his was a staged "arrest" to make it appear someone is doing something.

Don't forget, today is bank failure Friday. Who will it be this week? Will we hit 100 for the year? Tune in after 6 PM to find out.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:33 | 79888 lizzy36
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Looks like the small banks may be getting their own bailouts. Discussions ongoing...... One wonders if this isn't just a way to indirectly help out the FDIC?

 

And UnionBanCal is getting $2b from its parent company but this is pruely a precautionary move "to offset possible credit losses of economy weakens further"

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:32 | 79886 sondog
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Wow I don't remember names that well, but I read that book. It is a fascinating read. Was it ever made into a movie? It should have been...

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:53 | 79899 Anonymous
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The book was the shit aber the movie (with richard crenna) not so much. Lets see donatolo scalzo...maybe china?

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:40 | 79894 Anonymous
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It's a bit ironic that you're so sympathetic to Mr. Saleh's plight after goading the SEC to pop him.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 19:59 | 80135 Anonymous
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Hear Hear

I suspect most ZH fans wouldn't mind if this story were killed.

Its a terrible irony when your heroes get caught in the ner meant to catch your foes.

Sat, 09/26/2009 - 09:11 | 80354 berlinjames02
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But where does it end??? How long can people 'milk' their past deeds???

Look at Charlie Rangel- he won the Bronze Star for valor in the Korean War. Should he be allowed to break the rules for the rest of his life? If that's the case, then he is definitely taking advantage of his heroism. The Economist recently had this article: http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14456931

IMO, we should be held accountable for each decision. The problem is the SEC turns a blind eye to massive insider deals, and then arbitrarily prosecutes petty crimes. To give the perception that you can't beat the system, EVERYONE needs to believe they will be prosecuted- otherwise they won't try to circumvent the system. (Think about the IRS or parking meters in a college town.) Even then, it isn't enough (Tim Geithner).

 

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 15:58 | 79903 Anonymous
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Classic....SEC style...

Go after the small fish....

And go to work as a future employee of the BIG FISH....

The SEC needs to go POP!

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:00 | 79905 jdun
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Greed is find and good for the society as long as it is taken moderately. Overdose on it and it will fuck you up.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:02 | 79911 Missing_Link
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It's not about "greed."  It's about dishonesty and violating a very specific rule: insider trading.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:03 | 80014 jdun
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You just described greed.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:25 | 80029 Anal_yst
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Selective prosecution and BS thresholds make "insider trading" a BS offense, in many cases. 

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:13 | 80055 lizzy36
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Well said and very true!

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:01 | 79907 Anonymous
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economy will weaken further if sliding market is not supported. after all stock market drives consumer confidence here !!

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:01 | 79909 Missing_Link
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Hero to zero.  What a shame.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:12 | 79928 Cognitive Dissonance
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I bought my son, who is now 25, the original PlayStation when he was very young. He and I spent countless hundreds of hours together playing Legend of Zelda.

Your avatar brings back very fond memories. Thanks for the Friday trip down memory lane. 

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:18 | 79938 Anonymous
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Zelda was never released on PlayStation

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:41 | 80036 Anal_yst
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win.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:58 | 80047 Anonymous
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The dude is over 50 - you expect him to remember the console?

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:28 | 80066 Cognitive Dissonance
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You're correct. I always mix up the Nintendo and Playstation when discussing the systems. The only games I ever played were Zelda on Ninetendo and Sonic the Hedgehog on Playstation.

It's wasn't the games that were important to me. It was the time with my son.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 21:31 | 80191 Missing_Link
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My avatar is actually from Phantom Hourglass for Nintendo DS, which, to be blunt, really sucked.  They don't make Zelda games like they used to.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 21:42 | 80198 Missing_Link
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Or rather, they make 2D Zelda games exactly like they used to, which is the problem.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:54 | 80045 Plainview
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Moooooom, I told you it was the Nintendo-64 not the Playstation - you're so embarrassing Mom.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 23:22 | 80241 defender
Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:50 | 80040 Anonymous
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To be a hero is to deserve a higher station in
life. Hero's are de facto leaders. Initially then, the heros drinks are paid for and great deference is made. However, as time and newness passes, it comes time for the
hero to grow into leader and pay the tab. Being unable to do so leaves a hero as truly a zero as his inability to lead leaves him worse off than if he had never been a hero at all and this was probably a motivating factor in such a ill conceived plan to obtain wealth and gain his status back.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 21:29 | 80190 Missing_Link
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Very insightful of you, Anonymous.  Do I know you?

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:04 | 79913 Anonymous
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Until I see the details I won't believe the guys who
missed Madoff, especially Shapiro cuz she's a joke.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:10 | 79924 tinfoilhat
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Who does this guy think he is?  You can't just steal from the NWO Mafia's casino.

 

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:12 | 79927 Michael
Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:19 | 79942 bugs_
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Hey he's a risk taking guy!

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:39 | 79984 Anonymous
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Sad if true. Those guys that Perot hired to go in there had gigantic fucking balls to do what they did. Even the man Ross himself risked has ass and went in there to help.
All those men are true heroes.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:53 | 80002 River Tam
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Fearless

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 17:19 | 80026 Careless Whisper
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Friday afternoon TD; Any reason why in the above 14 paragraphs that you posted, that you neglected to mention the alleged illegal profits to Saleh are $8,900,000 ?  It was clearly stated in the WSJ but somehow didn't make it to ZH.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:22 | 80063 trader1
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ZH already mentioned this in an earlier posting.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:00 | 80049 trader1
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CIA.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:34 | 80076 John Self
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Reminiscent of the Black Hawk Down hero who came home and was convicted on child molestation charges. Great men are capable of doing horrible things and horrible men are capable of doing great things.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 18:40 | 80080 mrhonkytonk1948
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My experience is that popular culture bubbles up from the bottom, ethical culture trickles down from the top.  I suggest that Saleh just have the SEC investigators fired if they try to out him.  Oh, wait.  Sorry.  Confused him with John Mack.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 19:39 | 80117 Miles Kendig
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Bingo.  +1

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 19:38 | 80115 Miles Kendig
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Sauce for the goose. 

The SEC and CFTC cannot help themselves.  They are organizations lost to the process of subordination & corruption and these kinds of actions are all they are capable of.

I can only hope that perhaps Reza Saleh will become one more Miles Kendig and have some fun with the system and the storytelling of his journey through it.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 19:44 | 80124 ggm
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Too bad this Perot employee/hero wasn't better compensated. The Perot family is worth billions. It seems like they could have thrown Saleh a nice bone at some point so he wouldn't feel the need to resort to criminal activity.

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 21:04 | 80177 Anonymous
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Call me a skeptic but according to this:

http://thereformedbroker.com/2009/09/23/insider-trading-lesson-1-no-call...

"The first thing the SEC looks at is the call option activity whenever there's a high profile merger or takeover.
Anything unusual is gonna be flagged".

Since I love you guys for keeping our eye on the SEC, and you're attracting a lot of eyeballs, create a regular feature, "unusual option activity". Since the SEC supposedly acts on this pretty quickly, it should be pretty easy to call them out when they drop the ball.

Otherwise I'm kinda thinking you clever guys frontran the SEC with your "challenge". Say it ain't so, I want to believe in you guys.

Sat, 09/26/2009 - 11:31 | 80397 long-shorty
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You are 100% correct; the SEC has been all over several takeover-related insider-trading in options cases in the past 10 years. It has nothing to do with ZH; it's just something they systematically look for.

There are many good things about this site, but the cheerleading of ZH for something it had nothing to do with is just a mob feeling good about itself.

As for the shock that this guy could be a hero and then a criminal, there's a medical diagnosis for people who see others as all good or all bad: borderline personality disorder.

 

 

 

Sat, 09/26/2009 - 17:25 | 80541 Anonymous
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Our hero sold all his contracts the next day. That's a red neon sign with a blinking arrow......pointing right at him !!

Such a waste of knowledge and intricate planning !!

Fri, 09/25/2009 - 23:05 | 80232 Anonymous
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This is a red herring. Ex Delta Force guys were paid to 'rescue' these employees....

Sat, 09/26/2009 - 16:09 | 80514 You Cant Handle...
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Loyalty and bravery are #1 and #2 qualifications for a Fall Guy.

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