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Perspectives From The West Bank: "Israel Is Definitely Planning A Strike On Iran, Which I'm Told May Happen This Summer"
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I can assure you of two things. Israel is definitely planning a strike on Iran, which I’m told may happen this Summer. The country has been having large simulated chemical attack drills, and even my small town has had its own drills (which I’m sure were ordered from above). Number 2 is that I am also hearing that Israel will not attack w/o the OK of the US. Israel needs to fly over Iraq to reach Iran, and it can’t do this w/o US attack codes. I’m not sure what the solution is, but, as someone once said – “a Jew who does not believe in miracles is not a realist.”
Regards,
BJG
Chashmonaim, Israel (West Bank)
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ahh Diebold, now that's one of the better stories in the annals err anals of democacy
Duplicate...
- ah Beirut, Lebanon. Just finished USMC Parris Island Boot Camp in mid '83, I was young and dumb, loved my country, Magnum PI on TV, boy did I get a rude awakening, got my ass dragged through Grenada and Beirut.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6pQbfwQp8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOqZz_oEdig&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wmvM0FENI&feature=related
Ya. "Only the stable nations should be allowed to have nuclear weapons".
Ok what do the stable nations have in common.
Could it be. Anyone, anyone, nuclear weapons....
If people would think they would see through the bullshit but why think when someone will gladly do it for you.
Isn't this how Iran is feeling? If any thing, any attack justifies Iran's case of having nuclear arsenal. You don't see N. Korea getting attacked, do you?
Sure. Gotcha. Go ahead and hit Iran.
Just note that the Strait of Hormuz will be shut indefinitely, spiking oil to $300+/barrel, giving Moscow the winning hand in energy exports (sorry, Saudis), while further gravely jeopardizing the USD.
Oh, and don't expect it to end quickly 'n' cleanly, either, as the conflict will spread into surrounding states (Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Central Asia. Venezuela even...), thus eventually pulling in the Russian and quite possibly Chinese militaries as well.
Iran is today for the Global East and South the equivalent of what Poland was for Western democracies in 1939.
I hope "Chashmonaim" from the West Bank and his occultist buddies have the stomach to take on the near-entirety of Asia...because I can assure you that an already exhausted and near-broke American populace doesn't.
Your causation is all backwards.
Iran's reaction will not be just to clog the Straight of Hormuz. They need the Straight to be open. Iran imports its refined gasoline and subsidies the hell out of it. Without daily imports of gasoline Iran starts to grind to a halt. Imagine 1970's American style gas rationing and the possibility of market priced gas, ouch.
Iran will try and hit us in Iraq. I'm sure they are still there and laying in wait. I would not be surprised if they already have contingency plans in this respect.
Spiking oil prices in the US will break the political logjam that prevents America from exploiting her reserves. Oil at $300/bbl and ANWR is open for business. The Green River formation? Open. Russia would not have the upper hand in a damn thing. (by the way Israel is sitting on healthy natural gas reserves as well) We are barley exploiting natural gas, let energy prices spike and we will be exporting it in short order.
Israel is the dominant power in the Middle East militarily. No one wants to openly battle Israel. For two reason: 1 They'll lose and 2. The rulers of the non-demcracies in the Middle East are always watching their backs trying not to lose power. Jordan and Egypt don't have peace treaties with Israel for nothing.
Pakistan is not doing shit. They will have to lock their own country down to prevent the loss of control over their own nukes.
Afghanistan? The country does not have a paved road that was not built buy a foreign power. Minus the cell phones and weapons, and the country is in the 8th century...
Venezuela, really? Chavez needs it to rain alot so his sole source of power is not cut off.
The near entirety of Asia? Don't be a drama queen. China is selling refined gasoline to Iran do you think they care about Israel or nuclear power for Iran? China will want the straight open to fulfill its energy needs. It may prompt more arms sales to Iran in the future but China in no way wants to expend any resources. They laugh at us for doing so, it just is not their game. Not yet anyway.
All of your solutions would take way too long to develop to save the us and would be insufficient. How far do you drive to work everyday?
I can assure you of two things. Israel is definitely planning a strike on Iran,
Israel isn't planning an attack on Iran. They have the plan already. They have plans to attack all of their enemies. They also have defensive plans in case of attack. They have plans, contingency plans, nested contingency plans, and full-time military planners. That's what the military does when its not in combat, train and plan for combat. It would insane to believe that Israel didn't have such a plan.
Just saying.
which I’m told may happen this Summer.
That is an obviously true statement. It may happen at any time. But this summer seems so much more interesting than 'on a Tuesday' or 'in an even-numbered year' or 'whenever'.
The country has been having large simulated chemical attack drills, and even my small town has had its own drills (which I’m sure were ordered from above).
Drills don't just happen spontaneously without someone directing that they happen. So, yeah, I'm sure they were ordered from above, too. And I bet they were even planned.
Number 2 is that I am also hearing that Israel will not attack w/o the OK of the US.
So, you heard that Israel won't disrupt the flow of oil from the Middle East to the rest of the world without consulting their allied superpower who is likely to be greatly affected by it?
Well, yeah, I think any reasonable person would agree with what you're hearing.
Israel needs to fly over Iraq to reach Iran, and it can’t do this w/o US attack codes.
It can't do that without running the risk of being blown out of the sky. So, yeah, they ought to let the Americans know.
I’m not sure what the solution is, but, as someone once said – “a Jew who does not believe in miracles is not a realist.”
Every statement in the above post is trivially true. With emphasis on the 'trivially'.
+1
I was going to post something along these lines, but since you've done such a fine job I will leave it alone.
The only thing I would add is that, and I've said it before, that historically speaking economic downturns are always accompanied by the outbreak of war, and that usually the size of the conflict is in direct relation to the size of the downturn.
Could be Iran, could be somewhere else. We'll see. Bottom line, war is coming, and the next 10 years or so are going to be a bumpy ride.
Barking dog doesnt bite.
Good points. The OP is Nostradamus walking among us, ambiguity his cloak.
Do not overlook the fact that in August of 2009, the DoD requested the accelerated production of six 30,000 lb. conventional explosive "Massive Ordinance Penetrator" bombs which could be used in Iran in lieu of tactical nukes. This request was hidden as a nondescript line item in a supplemental defense funding bill.
This Reuters article was one of several which spilled the beans...
Pentagon eyes accelerated "bunker buster" bomb* Bomb could be ready for B-2 bomber by July 2010
* Would deliver 10 times explosive power of predecessor
By Jim Wolf
WASHINGTON, Aug 2 (Reuters) - The Pentagon is seeking to speed deployment of an ultra-large "bunker-buster" bomb on the most advanced U.S. bomber as soon as July 2010, the Air Force said on Sunday, amid concerns over perceived nuclear threats from North Korea and Iran.
The non-nuclear, 30,000-pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator, or MOP, which is still being tested, is designed to destroy deeply buried bunkers beyond the reach of existing bombs.
If Congress agrees to shift enough funds to the program, Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N)'s radar-evading B-2 bomber "would be capable of carrying the bomb by July 2010," said Andy Bourland, an Air Force spokesman.
"The Air Force and Department of Defense are looking at the possibility of accelerating the program," he said. "There have been discussions with the four congressional committees with oversight responsibilities. No final decision has been made."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0213354020090802
I knew an Aussie SAS dude who told a story about the Bosnia conflict where the US was using these bunker busters. He remembers one of his fellow troops freaking out over the radio, 'The Yanks are nuking them!' Apparently, several tons of high explosive creates a considerable mushroom cloud and lays waste to everything in a wide radius around the blast. Hard to distinguish it from a nuke at first. Funny shit.
It's disgusting. A 30,000lbs bomb? Fucking obscene. When do they stop? Why not 100,000lbs? Make it more powerful than any nuclear bomb, as long as something can lift it over the target then play ball, eh?
Disgusting.
I am Chumbawamba.
If an aircraft could get off the ground carrying one, they would have done it already. There is no end to it.
Roh-roh, seems like Israeli backed Megaphone bitch-squad found a way to junk all the "anti-Israeli" comments. Enjoy the Internet bitches, cause soon you will not.
lol. You noticed the Junk-Bots too..eh?
I'm sure their "internet warfare team" (aka hasbarats) has had their $150K budget increased by now.
Israel is way behind the curve with this. Scientology figured that one out years ago.
But would they be capable of responding to this threat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQLezq-UVKY&NR=1
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- hahaha, yeah, I noticed, junk everywhere.
I think ZH needs to have short wave as a back up plan.
Nuclear weapons technology is 70 years old. If Israel truly plans to keep the rest of the Middle East nuke-free forever, they are going to be playing this game for the rest of time.
One way or another, they have to get cool with their neighbors, or this all just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
My take is that this is BS posturing by Israel to pressure Obama to NOT establish relations with Syria. The Senate is holding up an appointment of an ambassador to Syria because there are now "rumors" that Syria has supplied Hizbollah with SCUDS that could hit anywhere in Israel.
Israel: "Stop making nice with Syria Mr. President, and we won't start WWIII."
I agree, this has to be Israel posturing for something. It is too stupid to be real.
It's very simple.
Israel will not strike Iran without some sort of pretext.
If Israel strikes Iran without a pretext, then, when oil goes to 300, gasoline to 15 a gallon, and the world economy crashes to dust, even the few holdouts in the world who don't already dislike Israel will be made instant, permanent, and bitter enemies.
So a pretext is needed.
The only questions are - when, and what pretext.
My best guesses - soon, and as a response to a FF "terrorist" attack, probably a "coordinated" attack in U.S., Israel, W.Europe, and the KSA, just to make sure all the donkey shit eaters understand that Israel was forced to end the world as we know it, in keeping with the "it's never our fault" mantra.
Is pretext hard to make? 'Cause BS (Ben Shalom) Bernanke and Turbo Timmy have been at it for while. Or, they could just hire some CNBS talking head...
Well, isn't the pretext that Iran is working on a nuke and will have one imminently and will destroy the world or give it to a terrorist in order to detonate it in Tel Aviv according to the latest intelligence reports that we just got and can't take the time to verify due to the imminent threat and OMG THE WMDS WERE IN IRAN ALL ALONG AND OMG WTF RED ALERT DEFCON 1...
If some a-holes blow each other up in the Middle East, is that our problem? Only if we have to pay for it all and don't we always?
There is no such thing as "attack codes" when dealing with air space.
I know.
OIF vet
The reason goat herders can beat professional soldiers is because goat herders don't need bankers and politicians to tell them what to do and keep them fed.
The US manufactured a war in Iraq and people are pretty tired of it. As far as this letter that Israel’s going to attack Iran, they’re always going to attack. What they want is for other countries in the world to crack down on Iran with sanctions to the point where they starve the children as the US did in Iraq, 500,000 of them according to the UN.
This is what’s called saber rattling, IMO
That said, it’s increasingly difficult for the U.S. to take a strong stand against its ally Israel when Israel’s influence in the executive branch of government has grown so rapidly with the Obama Administration. All entrances to the Oval Office are controlled by Rahm Emanuel and David Azelrod, with Chief of Staff Ronald Klain blocking the door of Vice President Joe Biden's office. (That's "Throughout my career, Israel has not only remained close to my heart but it has been the center of my work as a United States Senator and now as Vice President of the United States" Biden.)
As Alexander Cockburn wrote in Hail to the Chief in November 2008, “Rahm Emanuel is Obama’s chief of staff and gate keeper. This is the man who arranges his schedule, staffs out the agenda, includes, excludes. It’s certainly as sinister an appointment as, say, Carter’s installation of arch cold-warrior Zbigniev Brzezinski as his National Security Advisor at the dawn of his 'change is here' administration in 1977."
And if you want to know where Emanuel stands, Cockburn continues: “He’s a former Israeli citizen, who volunteered to serve in Israel in 1991 and who made brisk millions in Wall Street. He is a super-Likudnik hawk, whose father was in the fascist Irgun in the late Forties, responsible for cold-blooded massacres of Palestinians.
“Dad’s unreconstructed ethnic outlook has been memorably embodied in his recent remark to the Ma’ariv newspaper that ‘Obviously he [Rahm] will influence the president to be pro-Israel… Why wouldn't he be [influential]? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floors of the White House.'"
If the U.S.should give the code to Israel to fly over Iraq, it’s the same thing as the U.S. attacking Iran. It means the U.S. had prior knowledge of the attack; there’d be no way to way say it was a lone job. And, of course, Israel would be flying airplanes that the U.S. gave them the money to buy.
Interesting that at Obama’s summit to highlight the threat of nuclear terrorism, the one person not there was BB. And with all those world leaders discussing nuclear weapons, it seems to me with the Israeli/Iranian situation, you would want a nuclear power such as Israel present. The fact that Israel doesn’t admit it’s a nuclear power is rather immaterial, when it is a nuclear power.
Will this effect Google shares? Does Isreal own Google shares? I didnt think so. Google to 19,000 a share.. Rally on. May i finish playing my Hand Flute now? Wake me up when the Bubble pops.
WoW, what an objective , finance related discussion that is.
Does anyone know which side of this trade Goldman is taking?
long floating oil containers off the coast of singapore?
Does anyone know which side of this trade Goldman is taking?
That Iran is a threat to Israel is like saying Poland was a threat to Nazi Germany.
"Turkey's prime minister said the world is turning a blind eye to Israel's nuclear program and he intends to raise the issue at the nuclear summit in Washington.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Iran's nuclear program is being scrutinized because of its membership in the International Atomic Energy Agency whereas Israel, which has not signed a nonproliferation treaty, is 'free to do what it wants.'"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3874382,00.html
"Analysts for a reputable military journal have rated Israel as the world's sixth nuclear power, alongside Britain, with up to 300 nuclear warheads.
Citing comments by British security experts, the British Jane's Defense Weekly has revealed that Tel Aviv is currently in possession of between 100 and 300 nuclear warheads."
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=122993§ionid=351020202
"Israel is the only nuclear power in the Middle East with a programme dating back to the 1950s under Israel's first prime minister, David Ben Gurion.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu abruptly withdrew Friday from next week's nuclear summit in Washington, underscoring Israeli reluctance to expose its own nuclear programme to scrutiny."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100409/wl_mideast_afp/mideastisraelnuclear...
Excellent points.
Where would a nuclear defenseless Iran be today without some semblance of a deterrent against Israel and the United States? Iran has as much right to nuclear power as America or Israel or anybody else; it has a right to protect its Middle East oil installations without fear of invasion.
In the military world created by the U.S. and Israel, it would be suicide to be without an attack deterrent.
The first thing to remember is that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. Says nuclear-free advocate Jonathan Schell, "Obviously, the issue is whether Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons--whether their program is a precursor to weapons or designed for peaceful purposes.”
Of course, says Schell, “one of the reasons that Iran may have become interested in having nuclear weapons is to deter an attack by the United States. When they saw Saddam swinging by the neck, they thought: How can we prevent such an outcome for us?”
I've never seen such a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of current events to the point of fear mongering.
Agree or disagree with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, one strategic result (purposely) is that the US is both the west and east of Iran. It is de facto geographically isolated. Iran cannot maneuver infantry, mechanized, airborne or missile without invading US airspace.
While I sympathize with Israeli concerns, Iranian rhetoric is overblown, but from their sabre rattling and our and the Israelis interpretation.
The world is concern with Iran getting the bomb simply because both the Iranians and the American response heighten the rhetoric. Yet a more volatile and unstable regime possesses the bomb, Pakistan. Lest we not fret. How ironic.
Should Iran master the bomb, then what? A shift in balance in power? Deterence? It will have assured itself from first strike, yes, but it cannot do anything more without a full-blown American, Israeli and Sunni-Islam response.
Thus the prospect of an Israeli preemptive stirke is beyond remote. Iran's nuclear apparatus isn't simple Orsrak, Iraq. It is complex, spread wide and burried deep. An airstrike wouldn't be able to cripple it.
Rah!!
Well said, especially about other regimes now in posession of the real nuclear bomb.
Separately, Kim Jong Il probably has a bomb or two (see link below) but friends in Tokyo, Seoul and China are enjoying bubble boom economies never seen since the dot-com days, no one cares except the stock market frets, and only when the big boys decide to drop the markets and start the terror campaign for election purposes. Kim's rhetoric and his disastrous policies are creating internal problems and folks in Seoul that think left to its own, North Korea would disintegrate within 5 years and have no choice but to re-unite. So you know who are the people who want to push this sad story about an Israeli strike - the gold bugs, oil speculators, and The Great Sea Monster Inc. Its all a big lie.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/30/cia-iran-has-capability-...
One more quote from a true American hero (add southern drawl for effect) -
Major T. J. "King" Kong: Well, boys, I reckon this is it - nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies. Now look, boys, I ain't much of a hand at makin' speeches, but I got a pretty fair idea that something doggone important is goin' on back there. And I got a fair idea the kinda personal emotions that some of you fellas may be thinkin'. Heck, I reckon you wouldn't even be human bein's if you didn't have some pretty strong personal feelin's about nuclear combat. I want you to remember one thing, the folks back home is a-countin' on you and by golly, we ain't about to let 'em down. I tell you something else, if this thing turns out to be half as important as I figure it just might be, I'd say that you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this thing's over with. That goes for ever' last one of you regardless of your race, color or your creed. Now let's get this thing on the hump - we got some flyin' to do.
to me both sides are wrong. Iran wants nukes well out of fear that they will be next on our hit list and to be a hegemony in the mideast. Israel knows that a strike against Iran will be very,very,very,very severe. Iran has stated that if they are attacked they will unleash hell on America and Israel. Iran has sleeper agents in the US and Israel,Hizballah has the lebanese army on their side and hundred of rockets and Scud missiles,The shiites will go apeshit in Iraq and start a major rebellion that will bring back memories of Mogadishu 1993,the Taliban will get stronger and more support and the war will turn into a Vietnam hell hole,Israel will face thousands of civilians dead. I've dated an israeli chick in high school two years ago, she said most average Israelis like Arabs and want peace but their government is very "paranoid' she said. The people who will suffer is innocent Palestinians,Israeli,Lebanese,Irania,Syrian civlians that will take the brunt of this.
I think its more likely Israel will attack Iran in the fall then summer because the new sanctions will be passed in mid may. So Israel will wait it out then attack. It will happens but the world will not be ready for the carnage it will unleash on this planet. Lets hope peace prevails instead of war.
"I can assure you of two things. Israel is definitely planning a strike on Iran, which I’m told may happen this Summer. The country has been having large simulated chemical attack drills, and even my small town has had its own drills (which I’m sure were ordered from above). Number 2 is that I am also hearing that Israel will not attack w/o the OK of the US. Israel...."
No insult intended, but this is old, old verbage. I've been reading and hearing the exact same thing every year since 1993.
Israel would not hesitate to attack any US installation between the "capital of Cool" and Iran either from the ground in the form of sabotage or from the air in the form of bombers and fighters engaged in distractions and aerial harassment of interceptors. This would not and cannot come with the open US approval for a strike - Look for pawns to be sacrificed. Maybe some unlucky Iraqi forces will be manning the strangely isolated and lone AA speed bump on the way, or maybe it will end with even more spectacular bank fraud distracting and scapegoat fashioning results in the form of real US casualties, as with the Liberty.
If the intent is to truly attack by summer, and this isn't just saber rattling, then expect the rift between Israel and the US to grow exponentially between now and then replete with "Obama is soft on terror/no friend to Israel" rhetoric out of the usual mouth pieces/breathers. I'll even go one further and predict a missile strike or two by Hezbollah within the next two weeks, just to get things moving.
Repost:
The US coalition must wait for there to be a new moon to bomb Iran, because that is the only time the stealth bomber is operational. That could mean it happens tonight. However, they will most likely wait for a false flag attack like Pearl Harbour (done by sanctions), Northwoods (done by force), Gulf of Tonkin (done by force), or 9/11 (done by excessive force) to usher in a motive. Because the Tri-Lateral commission meet during the first week of May, the new moon on the 14th will be an opportune time. Even more opportune is June 12th, after the Bilderberg Group meets during the first week of June.
To add, if Iran goes to war, so does China, Russia, and India, unless they kick Iran out of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation. I have no idea how China can get enough oil to maintain its infrastructure if Iran leaves. Russia is not online to fuel China.
Yours is a persuasive argument, Crummy. Does anyone really think the current war or the next war are about anything other than oil?
Well, yes. Many people know there are two primary reasons for the war in Iraq, and for the threatened war in Iran, other than oil.
REASON ONE: The corporate culture in Washington is so inbred that profits and war can be considered on the same page, and much of the push for Iraq in both political parties came from corporations who will benefit big-time. That doesn’t even include the military-industrial complex. It all begins with the planning, ordering and building everything that’s needed, all at inflated prices: bombs, planes, missiles, tanks, uniforms, trucks, and putting together mega tons of food and all the rest. And that’s just for a fast war; suppose it lasted for years? Wasn’t it Secretary Albright who asked Secretary Powell why all this war preparation was needed if it wasn’t going to be used? Anyway, when all is ready and the war planners have the people and the press on board, the bombers are brought on: to level the cities and infrastructure, knock out sewer systems, power grids, roads and bridges, hospitals, schools, businesses…putting the population on life support. Over the next few years, then, comes the contractor army rebuilding everything, again with U.S. tax money, again at inflated prices.
REASON TWO: The U.S. went to war in Iraq to support Israel’s security in the region, as evidenced by the major push inside the U.S. government (both in Congress and the White House) from the neo-conservatives, a group clearly supporting the most hawkish political movements in Israel. Neo-conservative Richard Perle, for example, was a former assistant secretary of defense and head of Secretary Rumsfeld’s “Defense Policy Board,” the point man in laying out rationale for a pre-emptive war on Iraq. In 1996, for Israel’s Likud Party, he had led a group to establish the principles of pre-emptive war. The project, called, “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” was published by the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, an Israeli think tank.
Iraq and Iran geographically are central to Middle East war strategy. If the U.S. could establish a puppet government in Iraq and set-up major air bases there, the skies over all of Iraq’s neighbors could be monitored and controlled (it shares borders with Syria, Turkey, Iran, Jordan and Saudi Arabia). The rationale would be called a “war on terrorism” and terrorism could be reasoned as centering on the perceived aggressiveness of Islam. Control of the Middle East could keep “terrorism” in check and keep Israel’s enemies in check.
A major emphasis for the Iraq war came from the neo-con organization called “Project for the New American Century (PNAC), established in 1997. An open letter to President Bush after the 9/11 attack stated: “even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack (9/11), any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.” When Bill Clinton was president, PNAC sent an open letter to him urging that the regime of Saddam Hussein be toppled. Many of PNAC’s key people at that time became key people in the Bush administration. The neo-conservatives, then in power, brought all the war-leaning factors together: a vice president who wants an American Empire no matter the price in lost civil rights, the corporations who would benefit, including the oil companies and the naïve portions of the population who believed the worst of the “terrorist” connections to Islam. To make it all go down, the media gladly jumped on board. Even now the chief representative of this “conservative” viewpoint is America’s liberal voice of record and strong supporter for the security of Israel, the New York Times. It was William Kristol with his Trotskyite roots who co-founded the Project for A New American Century.
The point is Saddam Hussein did not sponsor the terrorism. We went into a sovereign country and blew it apart for the stated reason, with no evidence, that it was terrorist nation.
It won’t be so easy this time.
My only problem is with reason two, while Israel might have seen it that way and been flattered, the Israel happy fun time hour can be cancelled just as easily as the Crazy Hussein or Kermit Roosevelt shows should their ratings drop.
The US went into Iraq to be close to Iran, so it could hold a match to it while China watched. John Snow went to China on numerous occasions after "mission accomplished", more than any other previous treasury secretary, under the pretext of pressuring China to put an end to knock offs.*cough*bullshit!*cough* It's much more likely that he went to put China on notice so they held the dollar in the face of Iran's switch to euro denominated energy sales. After one of those trips China's response was to announce the construction of the two largest reserves on the planet - I guess that meeting didn't go well.
Very strong argument. Thanks.
As always I enjoy reading your comments JR.
Is it coincidence that Iraq/Iran depegged the sale of their oil from the dollar ?
If you have not seen Gerald Celente on Alex Jones today, I highly recomend it.
as one hears from the MSM constantly
an attack on Iran could destabilize the region
an attack on Israel could destabilize the region
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Q. When has the region ever been stable?
A. lol
Lets see now -
Folk of Jewish descent own run the large major US / World banks - Check . Jewish folk start use nukeS first time since WW2 - Check . Another Hitler arises to go after them for the calamity brought on the world- Not yet . Does history strangely repeat itself?
Wow. Did not anticipate the Israel bashing. Whatever.
The point is, in a world where Iran is churning out nukes no one is safe. I haven't been following Iran's hit list, but I know the US is on it. And I know the US tops the list of targets for friend's of Iran.
Would Iran or its friends ever launch a conventional military strike against the US or Israel or Moscow? Nope. How about slipping a nuke to a terrorist outfit? Sure. Instead of buildings coming down in NY or Moscow, you take out a part of the city.
Not good. Sadly this is where the technological revolution has led us. You take some dirt out of the earth, you purify out some radioactive elements, you package the radioactive elements, you blow it up with explosives, and you have yourself an atomic bomb.
The developed countries have only had a monopoly on nuclear weapons due to the constraints of the time and money and expertise it takes to manufacture nuclear material. But with a few bucks and a little help just about any country could do it.
So how does one function in a world where terrorists carry strap on nukes instead of strap on C4? No country is safe and no city is safe.
Worrisome to even think about.
Tard. No one in the world is safe because the US can bomb anyone, anywhere out of existence without ever having to leave the office.
You're not safe, either. You'd best obey so that the crosshairs don't land on your hairy back anytime soon.
I am Chumbawamba.
Do you know what pisses me off is the evangelicals neo cons. They say they support Israel but at the same time want Israel to attack Iran. An attack will do Israel alot of severe pain and many of there citizens will die. These evanglicals are not true Christians,they are try to hasten the "rapture"(which is a myth started by a sick girl named Margret Macdonald in Glasgow, Scotland in a satanic vision. Also the Didache which is the teaching of the first 12 apostles has no mention of a rapture.)
Israel should think twice of attacking Iran because they will face a hell of epic proportions. Also Russia and China would not get involved in a war like this, they will most likely give Iran more weapons to fight against Israel. This whole notion of Iran want to wipe out israel with nukes is nuts. Iran is not that crazy. They know if they pull a stunt like that the whole west will destroy their nation. Iran wants nukes because it wants to be a hegemon in the mideast because right now they have the strongest military in the mideast outside of Israel and they want nukes so the US will not attack them. Iran has said they are ready for an attack and will respond heavily harsh along with Syria,Hizballah,and Hamas.
sounds like someone needs a scapegoat for $100 oil and $4 gas this summer, cuz boy those hummer drivers are going to be pissed.
To free ourselves from the influence of the Jews is a necessary condition not just for our political health as a people, but for our survival. If we continue on the present path, the Jews will soon be in a position to do to us what they did to the Russian people under the banner of communism. I would support strong measures to overcome Jewish influence in our country, including if necessary an appeal to arms.
Wow. A genuine Nazi. Well Mr. Nazi it's not clear to me how putting !ews in concentration camps will solve americas addiction to oil, radical islam, or rogue states nuking up, like North Korea. India is not exactly a Jewish center and they've been at war with pakistan for decades.
Wow. A genuine asshole. Nobody said anything about concentration camps and WTF does the Hatfield-McCoy er, India-Pakistan feud (besides Pakistan being OMG dreaded Muslims) anything to do with the well known fact that well-moneyed lobbyists have had and continue to have a significant deleterious affect on the governance (or lack thereof) of this republic? AIPAC is most certainly on the short list of those entities whose own interests run counter to those of the best interests to this republic.
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The attack needs to take place before the Bushehr plant goes critical. All these talks of sanctions etc and the so called problems between Obama & Benji are for the birds.The attack may take place any time, anyday
Back in the early '70's, they said Israel gave stability
to the region. Yeah..sure does..lol. More yak yak to take "most" eyes off
the next screw job coming up....? It never ends...
Goldman long BS...
An interesting analysis by Brzezinski on the support for such an attack on Iran by the US:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xat-C4SpBl4
In short, it's bad for Israel and bad for the US.
Speaking of "pre-text" for going to war with Iran... World Cup coming in June. Why would a terrorist attack (real or ost likely conjured) not surprise me?
If you are not provisioned to the teeth, you bloody well should be. Some asshole is going to start Deathmatch 2010 and the ripples on the pond are gonna be a bitch.