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Phone Hacking Scandal Turns Tragic: NOTW Whistleblower Found Dead
The Guardian reveals a stunning development in the NOTW phone hacking aka MurdochGate case: "News of the World phone hacking whistleblower found dead: Sean Hoare, the former News of the World showbiz reporter who was the first named journalist to allege Andy Coulson was aware of phone hacking by his staff, has been found dead, the Guardian has learned. Hoare, who worked on the Sun and the News of the World with Coulson before being dismissed for drink and drugs problems, is said to have been found dead at his Watford home." For now there appears to be no evidence of foul play... for now: "The death is currently being treated as unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious. Police investigations into this incident are ongoing." Alas, as the full scale of this scandal unravels we are worried that this may be just the first of many tragic conclusions to what is rapidly becoming the biggest media scandal of the 21st century.
From The Guardian:
Hertfordshire police would not confirm his identity, but the force said in a statement: "At 10.40am today [Monday 18 July] police were called to Langley Road, Watford, following the concerns for welfare of a man who lives at an address on the street. Upon police and ambulance arrival at a property, the body of a man was found. The man was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after.
Hoare first made his claims in a New York Times investigation into the phone-hacking allegations at the News of the World.
He told that newspaper that not only did Coulson know of the phone-hacking, but that he actively encouraged his staff to intercept the phone calls of celebrities in the pursuit of exclusives.
In a subsequent interview with the BBC he alleged that he was personally asked by his then-editor, Coulson, to tap into phones. In an interview with the PM programme he said Coulson's insistence that he didn't know about the practice was "a lie, it is simply a lie".
At the time a Downing Street spokeswoman said Coulson totally and utterly denied the allegations and said he had "never condoned the use of phone-hacking and nor do I have any recollection of incidences where phone-hacking took place".
Sean Hoare, a one-time close friend of Coulson's, told the New York Times the two men first worked together at the Sun, where, Hoare said, he played tape recordings of hacked messages for Coulson. At the News of the World, Hoare said he continued to inform Coulson of his activities. Coulson "actively encouraged me to do it," Hoare said.
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Why you ask?
Answer: "He got too greedy."
Why do you assume that the PTB are "letting Murdoch fall"?
Sometimes, shit gets out of control despite everyone's best efforts.
Frankly, it is more likely that Murdoch's friends are trying to help him get the mess under control. Sure, Murdoch's evil but I doubt he has assassins on his payroll.
Murdoch's evil but I doubt he has assassins on his payroll.
maybe not literal, but definitely figurative.
Are you sure? He *was* born on a penal colony after all, you know?
Even if the "shit" did get out of control, there is no cover-up too big for these folks to cover their own asses.
"Sure, Murdoch's evil but I doubt he has assassins on his payroll."
He doesn't need assassins on his own payroll when he has plenty of them on standby through his friends (govts and MIC's payrolls).
Yes that's exactly my point.
I think you get to a certain level and you can. Do you think Buffet couldn't figure out how to get someone taken out? How about the nerdy Bill Gates? The temptation would have to be overwhelming. Let's say someone you cared about was hurt by someone bad, or killed. You have billions of dollars and this pisses you off. You have fawning lackey's all around you. They see your anger, your grief, they are loyal as hell to you and love you because you let them in on your life, make them feel like a part of something big and important... someone knows someone, suggests something, and it gets done. Once you cross that line, do it once, why NOT do it again. You can tell yourself you are doing it for all the right reasons, and down the slippery slope you go. I do not think this is paranoid, I think it is common sense that if you are wealthy enough you WILL be faced with this dilemma.
Eugenics... (The Bill Gates Founation)... count the 'ol' geezer in on that one...
Basically... "Why mess with the messy job of killing them today, if you can just breed it out of them to avoid it in the future"?
'What the hell good is having power if you can't have somebody killed"
- Eddie Albert in movie 'Head Office'
Highly, HIGHLY recommend renting it on NetFlix.
Eddie Albert, Rick Moranis, Judge Reinhold, Jane Seymour, Danny DeVito, Don King,
You just made RoboTrader's stock portfolio jump...
Not on his payroll...but he most definitely knows who to call.
No, he's not. He's a colonial upstart and was not under their control. The elites don't measure power and position in dollars (like the idiot American sheeple do). There are many elites who have lost all their cash but are still a part of very powerful networks.
Care to point out any positions which Murdoch and his news media empire took which hurt western elite interests in general?
He's pro-war, (backed pretty much every war without question for the last 30 years).
He's a hardcore Zionist (more hardcore than most zionists themselves).
He's pro-Fed (supports printing presses and federal reserve).
Pro-NWO (advocates globalism/corporations taking over the world)
Pro-Empire (advocates the use of military strength to subjugate the world).
His news media pushes forth most of the lies that come out of the govts mouth. In fact he is the epitome of the Fourth Branch, a willing shill in all affairs.
You're right that elites don't measure worth in dollar terms, it is in power terms, how much can certain individuals help their causes. In power terms Murdoch has more than the vast majority of politicans would ever likely see. This man through his press can make govt policy come into fruition without question.
Why do away with all that? All because a few phones were tapped and manipulated with? They could have easily brushed the scandal away early on, maybe sacked a few personnel, apologised and got on with it. Remember also, most of these allegations and evidence provided are years old. Yet they're only now being brought to light. Timed exposure if there ever was one.
I went to edit my post to explain further but you beat me to it.
Firstly, since Rupe is in the "Neocon Faction", I see this as a payback by the "Euro-banker Faction" for the DSK setup. It's not that he "hurt" their interests in any specific way, it's that they already "owed him one" from losing a battle to him in the 1980's.
Secondly, as I said, they can't control him. He is, as you said, pro-war and pro-Zion -- but he's also not consistent in who or which cause he supports. He can be ruthless in pursuing his objectives...and so can they. If I looked into his current policies (which I can't be bothered doing, since I don't read/watch the MSM), I could probably tell you which of his current causes (if any) go against the current global agenda. A first guess is his allowing Glenn Beck to tear Soros a new rectum on Fox and exposing the Marxist clique in DC (even though Beck has/presented no idea of the true structure of TPTB). A second guess is his allowing Judge Napolitano to spread libertarianism on Fox. A third guess is that he strongly supports Australia becoming a republic, independent of Queen Betty and her inbred German tribe. I'm sure there are more.
Finally, this is absolutely no different than a dust-up between mid-level mafia capos while the godfathers attend an annual planning meeting with beaming smiles all round. Murdoch is not at the big table, irrespective of his bank account and number of editorial pages.
You got it I-Dog.
The mafia analogy I think is quite right.
'We're doing everything we can to save him.... blam blam..."
Glenn Beck and to an extent Napolitano are what is termed "controlled dissent". You allow controlled dissent to make your stance more "fair and balanced", it allows Fox to parrot on about all other stupidities when you allow a few decent opinions now and again. Key to propaganda lies in its subtlety.
Beck is an absolute hypocrite constantly parroting about his hate for the NWO and then turns around and supports every war and corporate interests you could think of.
I still don't think these "small matters of dissent" would do Murdoch over. Beck and Napolitano have been around for years anyway.
This will not be transitory. It seems it is a warning though, for other whistleblowers . Dead men tell no tales.
there is no doubt in my mind that he was murdered and by people engaged by rupert murdoch and his organization.
the truth
killed him..
fair seas
truth seeker...
in the interest of keeping ZH from devolving into one big conspiracy theory...
Rupert or news corp didnt kill this guy...the news is out, people already going to jail, emails and docs subpoenaed. The damage is done. there's no reason to off him.
Coincidence does not imply causality. Right? Right??
Nor does it negate the possibility of causality.
No reason to off him except payback.
Of course there's a reason to off him. Serves as a warning to others in the future.
Plus, you are also assuming that the rabbit hole doesn't go any deeper. Who knows what lies around the next corner of this scandal? This thing stinks like they are trying to cover up something much, much worse.
Exactly. Shutting down a profitable paper a week after a scandal breaks? I think there's a lot more to come . . . a guy like Murdock doesn't just throw millions down the drain without compelling necessity.
In the interest of keeping your tin foil hat firmly in place, we are augmenting said hat with a chin strap. If you had worked at the NOTW and had piles of files, how likely would you be to step forward now?
I hope that Sean Hoare was able to complete an "open in the event of my death" mass mailing in the last few weeks.
You're wrong: the issue is whether Coulson knew about the hacking from the get-go, as he has consistently denied this. If it was to be shown that he knew about it from the start, then the likelihood is that Cameron knew about it, as did the Labour government before him, as they were in so tight with NI. That would show they had lied to the electorate, which in turn would bring down the government.
The guy either committed suicide or was murdered.
If he was murdered it would not be by Murdoch people as the damage is already done and this guys is yesterday's news. He would be done in by those looking to blame Murdoch further and who want to make sure News Corp (and right-leaning media) gets taken down and so that the guy can't suddenly recant in the future.
MalWartism
Those that murder are tose that have not been found out .....yet.
We are witnessing another 21st century "MAFIA" being unwrapped. Which include all the ingredients. politicians, newsrooms, women(sooner) bribery, police, drugs (soon), murders, money ($) and perhaps weapons. The next I fear is os*** and *11 being unwrapped.
I'm sure the consistent correlation between the phrase 'just found dead' and the word 'whistleblower' is entirely spurious.
Let the record show: if you hear of my untimely death after this comment, I am NOT suicidal.
Didn't help that madame who put out a video saying that she was not suicidal, in fear of ther life, then she was found hanging and they ruled it a suicide. I forgot her name, but she apparently had a lot of names herself.
DC madame Debra Jean Palfrey
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/050508_conspiracy_connection.htm
The names are just something to put in the playbook. Independent souls careless enough to GPS themselves are hunted down by the media: escapees from the appropriate society zoos. The bounty you don't know.
Nice to see you again CR. I listened to a Sept.2010 interview the BBC did with SH and he didn't sound all that suicidal; nothing more than my opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11183038
The British spell things differently, don't they - they drop the 'w' from whoare?
The guy is dead ass wipe. You have anything against him, then say so. Your comment is worthless trash. Fucktard.
I second the comparative case for that fk'tard...that be fk'tarder.
The world will lament the loss of high quality and poignant show biz reporting caused by Hoare's suspicous demise.
Bilbo Baggins: Surely you realize that your success has made you some bitter enemies?
Smaug: [laughs] Revenge? You? I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG! My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears! The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!
Sean...be sure to say hello to Matt Simmons for us
Suuuuuuure, nothing suspicious about his death. Just like the Fannie May (or was it Freddy Mac) chief accountant that committed 'suicide' as the crisis unfolded. Tons of other deaths like this...somebody should make a comprehensive list, of course there is a chance the author will wind up on that same list.
I wouldn't necessarily call this the biggest media scandal of the 21st century, because if you knew, hoho, what awaits you in 2046 and 2083, boy, you would definitely reconsider your all too prophetic announcement.
Ahhh come on people of course it was a natural death! ....If someone strangles you with piano wire its only natural that you would die.
Will they rape that redhead before they kill her? Or is she too skanky?
Okay, that's it, I'm taking over. Buckle your seat belts kids!
Awesome. What will you do first?
Hit the drive-thru.
Okay, that's it, I'm taking over. Buckle your seat belts kids!
This reminds me of an apt quote by NKVD's boss Lavrenty Beria:
"Any fool can commit murder. Any half-trained operative can arrange a suicide. But only a craftsman can stage a convincing natural death."
The quote opens chapter 7 of "Inventing Money: the story of LTCM and the legends behind it." by Nicholas Dunbar, p. 143, Wiley & Sons, 2000.
This phone hacking scandle doesn't speak well of the telecom providers, that their security system(s) are so easily breached by these media types. If I had one of the phones that was hacked, I would be looking for another carrier proto.
Sadly for myself, I'm stuck in the stone-age without a cell phone.
But with all of snooping/hacking/spying going on, maybe it is a good thing lacking a cell.
* * *
Your cost is $49.95 a month, and we spy on your voice-mail, e-mail, we track where you go and even listen in when the phone is powered off, like when your in the shower.
Oh, it is for your protection dear, it is for quality assurance purposes you know...
You're absolutely correct.
On the other hand, two words: Reverse Engineering
(void where prohibited)
Well,
Rebecca Brooks was "arrested by appointment" on Sunday - now prohibited to talk freely to MP's this week.
When has News Corp ever covered up something? ;-))))
He got a beating and a warning, he didn't listen and talked again, so they killed him.... I know how this works, I watched season 1 (of 1 unfortunately) of Rubicon on AMC, Bitchezzz!!!
Yeah, that sucked. Notice the music was similar to "Syriana"?