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Pima County Sheriff: "Loughner May Have Had An Accomplice"
Salon provides some unpleasant additional information on yesterday's headline news, which many had already suspected: namely that Loughner likely did not act alone. "Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said at a news conference in
Tucson on Saturday that authorities may have a photo of another suspect." Unfortunately, with a nation increasingly on edge, this possibility will likely turn out to be true. We can only hope that other like-minded individuals do not take this event as an escalation signal, and proceed to take vigilante "justice" into their own hands.
From Salon:
The Arizona sheriff helping investigate the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others says the gunman may not have acted alone.
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said at a news conference in Tucson on Saturday that authorities may have a photo of another suspect.
Dupnik says officials believe a suspect in custody may have come to the grocery store parking lot with another person, and that person was in some way involved.
Dupnik would offer no other information.
People familiar with the investigation have identified the suspected gunman being held as 22-year-old Jared Loughner.
Law enforcement officials also believe Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was the intended target of an armed attack in Tucson. Dupnik said at a Saturday evening news conference that "I don't have information about whether she was the first person shot, but yes, I believe she was the target."
The sheriff said Giffords was shot once in the head, and 18 other people were shot. Six are dead.
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Tyler, aren't you just proud when you read through the posts in what used to be one of the foremost financial blogs in the industry? You've got a permanent full convention of the literate quarter of every nutcrack faction of society posting here. From gun-mongering fascists to liberal crackheads to just plain old nuts - you got 'em all.
used to be?
Since "care" has long been "cremated" at Bohemian Grove, is there a chance that the impressionable mind of Jared Loughner was manipulated into perpetrating a 'false flag' event that may lead to attempts to further control the internet and further restrict our right to bear arms?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/302293
Be mindful of the fact that he did not act alone, although the FBI is on the scene, so I'm sure the photos of the other man will soon vanish.
Bingo! Seems identical to the shoe bomber and his handler.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger...
I read something that said they cleared the old guy they had the pictures of. Claimed he was a taxi driver and he accompanied Loughner into the store so he could get change to pay him...
Get over this. People die everyday.
I feel worse for my brother slew in the desert, because of someone (may be she) decided to go to war.
TheGreatPonzi
Know anything about this person?
send it to mexican.insurgent@yahoo.com
It will be used for research and academic purposes ONLY.
You hate mexicans too?
Everybody chill. This site is under attack. Look at the very first post. Look how many trolls, provacateurs and shills came out of the woodwork to get us fired up, fighting and distracted. Look at all the headlines - notice the assasination of a Federal Judge is barely mentioned? The poor child murdered that was born on 9/11 is getting more mention than John Roll. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0109-judge-roll-kil...
They are thowing everything they have at this site right now to divide us. Most that post here are aware of the corruption and are waking up to these tactics.
throwing everything they have at this site right now to divide us...
Didn't Rahm teach something to the effect to not let a good "crises" go to waste?
Good point. Consider the MSM tag line - The Tragedy in Tuscon. They are pulling out all the stops to drain this of political content, because the truth is so devastating. Whatever the shooter's motivation, this scares the shit out of the Powers That Be. Their whole world view is based around a complete lack of consequences for bad behavior. Oops.
The risk to the abuse of power crowd is not that the working class or middle class will rise up against them. The risk is that they have no consent of the governed. They have lost all credibility. The population simply won't care what happens to the tyrant class.
The fact that this attack was on a relatively moderate, young woman only makes things look worse for the government ubber alles crowd. They are in panic/cover up mode and will be for a while. Trashing the Constitution and rule of law probably doesn't look so trendy and cool in DC these days.
You are absolutely correct, I cannot believe how quickly the conversation has spiralled out of control here...this is not ZH, some bizarro version perverted by trolls. I can always tell, because most of the names never post anything of consequence on an article with financial charts. Trolls are not paid to have deep thoughts. We'll wait them out, they will leave soon enough when Tyler closes the hatch on the submarine and dives.
everyone is so fuckin happy for this shit to move their own constipated agendas in any angle they can
the fact that everyone is forced to think left or right on his motives sums it up more than anything.. just flush this country's conscience right now
Probably no accomplice, just random man caught on video walking into grocery store with perp.
FBI: Jared Loughlen was an invitee to a Gifford event in 2007. He was one of theirs.
Former classmate: Loughlen was a pot head and big liberal
Obama: "Punish our enemies"
first rule: don't believe the FBI
second rule: I know some right wing pot heads, so do you.
third rule: Obama has his enemies list, see rule one.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alle...
Yep and look at the media trying to say the exact opposite. He was for limited government and a new currency with gold and silver backing... This just seems like an obvious attempt to marginalize anyone that believes in these things. I hope people are smart enough to see through this.
on a site full of tin-hats and skeptics, that go for decades figuring out cover ups and set ups like 9/11, so many here blindly accept that a FUCKING YOU TUBE ACCOUNT is completely valid and not a plant.
ask yourself why his myspace account was pulled down??? Why was this left up?? any chance that his myspace account would of showed that the you tube profile is a total farce??? where is the interviews with the parents?? let's get their take on this you tube account
just look at the results of all this... and you all thought you took the red pill...
The REALLY strange thing is that her youtube channel is subscribed to his.
http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2
someone is trying to funnel as many eyes to that farce as possible
this whole thing just simply doesn't add up.
ding ding ding we have a winner!
Much angst on all sides. finger-pointing. Irresponsible and unfounded statements. This not a good climate for any society. (that senile Sherriff's comments, unfortunately,set this off from the start)
correct - so it is good that the Pres is approaching this in an even handed manner much like he has done with the numerous other mass murders that occur in the US
Moment Of Silence For Arizona Shooting Victims Announced By President ObamaIf that youtube account was really his, and I'm not convinced it was, then he's a classic certifiable paranoid schizophrenic. This left/right stuff is absurd. No one is advocating violence on either side.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BrotherJohnF?feature=mhum
The President asks for a moment of silence for the imminent death of your remaining civil rights.
Where's Archduke?
He only responds to HRH - lol
I mentioned this on the other Krugman story.
Giffords has a link on her page to the killers page,....bottom left. Look now before it's removed. The two are linked.
May be a crime of passion, romance, etc.?
"May be a crime of passion, romance, etc.?" Let's not go off the deep end here.
If you were so focused on killing this person, would you take the time, knowing you would soon be dead or arrested, to walk into the Safeway with the taxi driver so one of you could get change?Maybe I'm just a big tipper, but I'd probably just tell him to keep the change, instead of wasting time. Sounds like he didn't bother to wait his turn in line after he dealt with the cabbie, why the hurry all of a sudden?
This man is not the paragon of logic and reason. Regardless of ultimate ends, you can't really derive much from this thoroughly-American idiot's behavior.
Anybody know where I can pick up one of those new "FREE JARED" t-shirts?
TIA
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Why not? Aren't revolutions supposed to get nasty?
Go long Glock Ges.m.b.H. ???
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1316755/pg1
Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
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And with that, why is this ONE YouTube page of the shooter still available, when everything else of him has been taken down? This, the shooters YouTube page, is also the one page that the MSN reference to endlessly."
Someone posted this, must have taken it before the latest login, but unless it's faked, she was subscribed BEFORE the incident.
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7531/2d6af69edcf4.jpg
No one would subscribe to that channel by happenstance.The only explanation that isn't conspiratorial in nature would be that Loughner contacted her, or her campaign manager, and SOMEHOW talked them into subscribing to his insane youtube page.
This seems very unreasonable.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-suspected-gabrielle-gif...
Mr.Durden, I am confused.
Yesterday when I read this Thread there where over 1000 comments(mostly ugly ones).
Today there are only 631 left.
What was goin on?
Is there something like censourship on ZH?
Just askin.
Above 50 junks, the comment is deleted. So there has been a lot of junks going on in this thread.
Ah, ok.
The real ugliest thread ever.
If this goes on here ZH goes the way Roubinis Blog in 2009 is gone.
Worthless.