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"Pittman" Going To Supreme Court

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As we expected months ago, the fate of the US constitution, and the tyranny of the Federal Reserve and the banking oligarchy as a whole, will be decided by the captured Supreme Court, after Dow Jones reports that the Clearinghouse Association has asked the US Supreme Court to hear the Fed disclosure ("Pittman") case. The SCOTUS decision, given the recent Obama appointment, is a moot point. What happens after the judicial branch is also exposed to have been fully bought by the banks, after the executive and the legislative, is up to 99% of the US population.


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Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:38 | 677345 israhole
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Now you're talking!

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:42 | 677353 Azannoth
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If I lived in the USA i'd buy some ammo to celebrate the verdict

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:54 | 677403 caconhma
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So true.

Very soon we will celebrate the Second American Revolution.

The present two major US political parties are too corrupt. The shall game of the present major parties does not work any more. The "Tee Party" is just a diversion by the Ruling Elite. Just look at Sara Pailin as its "ideological leader".

This shit combined with a collapsing economy will not last much longer not being seriously challenged. 

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:20 | 677472 Cognitive Dissonance
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The only thing worse than waking up and realizing you're sleeping with a child molester is waking up and realizing you're dependant upon a child molester. As this insanity spirals further and further into the abyss, how likely are those who depend upon their jobs or their government unemployment/SS/Welfare checks and food stamps to revolt unless and until those lifelines have been severed.

As long as the government cheese will enable people to put off accepting that they're living with the devil, they will do so. Revolution is a long way off folks. I wish it were different. I've repeatedly called for people to stand up. But we are a passive and conditioned population. We will not bite the hand that feeds us until either it stops feeding us or we can no longer deny that it has stopped.

If we here on Zero Hedge, who are most certainly better informed and more aware than the average Joe, have done nothing to stop this insanity, what makes us believe "America" will do anything anytime soon?

What are we waiting for?

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:30 | 677530 tmosley
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Boston Massacre.

We need something that makes it clear to everyone that this thing isn't going away, and that if it isn't dealt with is just going to get worse.  Direct aggression against citizens by the US government should provide the spark to light this powder keg.  People will have to die, sadly, but there is no real way to trigger it otherwise.  That's human nature.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:24 | 677715 macholatte
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the people are like ants. the giant corrupt government comes along and kicks the ant hill. the ants on the surface scurry about looking for the trouble maker and how to get back into the hole. the ants inside don't know anything happened. the MSM comes along and dumps a load of mud propaganda onto the frustrated ants. the next day its business a usual.

No guns 'n ammo. No Timothy McVey. No Paul Revere.


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:40 | 677755 tmosley
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I see.  So there has never been a revolution before, just ants scurrying around.

You do know that less than 1% of the American population took up arms during the American Revolution, right?  That was all it took.

Eventually, someone is going to do something stupid, and the powder keg will erupt.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:39 | 677904 cranky-old-geezer
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"You do know that less than 1% of the American population took up arms during the American Revolution, right?"

It will be 0% now.

Anyone who honestly believes or hopes for a "second American revolution" is a fool.  If anything was going to be done, it would already have been done.

Welcome to our slave future.  Yes I count myself too.   This nation is not going to be "saved".


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:50 | 677943 macholatte
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Tuesday, November 2         La Revolution!

Wednesday, November 3     Business as usual


            Viva La Revolution!!


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 13:52 | 678113 Hook Line and S...
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The bus went off the cliff a long time ago. A lot of Zerohedgers understandably missed the point that it had a bungee cord around the axel. 

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:26 | 677867 Clampit
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This revolution won't be fought with guns, this is the 21 century. Think AR Drones carrying balloons full of cyanide, GPS (or air) speed triggered actuators to cut brake lines, hell even the road flares taped to propane tanks used by the Columbine kids should give you an idea of the creativity about to be unleashed.

Instead of guns; stock up on encrypted radios, thermal imaging, UAVs and the such.

BTW, I like the "revolution" branding - much more freedom oriented than civil war.


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 13:11 | 677994 Lednbrass
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Well, because when you get down to it the readership here is basically the Judean Peoples Front (or is it the Popular front? I forget), just educated urbanites who talk alot. This is a truly excellent site with an amazing amount of information, but the majority of the crowd here will be the last to actually do anything at all.  The culture that most here spring from just doesnt produce fighters.

I generally hate using pop culture references but I recently reread an old sci fi book that had me laughing when I thought about it.

You see, outside of the heavily populated areas is still a largely different species of humanity.  Generally they are raised on self reliance and contemptuous of outside help, they live in a strong local social fabric, are trained to fight, are proud of a long tradition of resistance to central power, do not measure their wealth in terms of money and gadgets, and are undercounted and terribly underestimated by the powers that be.

So to answer the big question- when?

As in the book, I think that the Fremen will rise and fight when Keynes dies and a leader with some degree of understanding and knowledge of what is to come stands up to serve as a rallying point. Not a moment sooner, and only when they are fully convinced that their world must change in order for their offspring to have a better life and there is no other way. Once a leader shows himself and the ties that held them loosen a little more, the nation will be changed.  However, I am not convinced that this change will mark the advent of a warm and fuzzy new brotherhood of man by any stretch- what follows may very well be harsh and terrible and bring a large cost in human life.

The analogy is not precise, but it I still think it is basically accurate.

When the time comes, any revolution is definitely not going to originate from a place like this, sorry guys.  There are always exceptions, but too often a persons willingness to take action is in inverse proportion to their level of education.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 16:41 | 678642 Clampit
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If what we write here offers credibility or purpose for some back woods nut case with penchant towards action, then in a sense the revolution could start here. I can be remarkably aggressive in my passivity.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 15:35 | 678442 Al Gorerhythm
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We are a conditioned as the Brits etc. Look at the reaction to a 25% public service pay cut in Britain. The trick is to bleed you slowly. The reduction and layoffs happen over 4 years.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:41 | 677759 Lednbrass
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Sarah Palin is not an "ideological leader" she is a politician who knew a good thing when she saw it and jumped on board to stay relevant and in the spotlight.  The designation of her or anyone else as a leader of what is inherently a leaderless resistance is the distraction- not the Tea Party types themselves.  The media and urbanites just cant comprehend the outburst of anger fueling this so they try to explain it away using their standard measurements and understandings, but what is brewing here is considerably different then anything in their experience.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:29 | 677525 goldmiddelfinger
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You need a gun to cause the ammo to make noise. Better you use fireworks. You must be French!

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:44 | 677359 CH1
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The US population are defending their past errors. They don't want to know that they acted stupidly, spent the future generations into massive debt and preferred Dancing With The Stars to ever reading a real book.

To ever take a stand against "accepted wisdom" would be to question far too much. Most of them haven't the guts.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:03 | 677446 Diogenes
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Where have you been? The American people voted against Bush in 3 elections, protested most strongly against TARP, the bailouts, Obamacare, in fact every scam was carried out against the wishes of the people or behind their backs. The PTB even co opted the Tea Party.

Since they figured out how to rig the voting machines voters count for nothing and public protest counts for nothing so don't try to hang this mess on the public. They have been against the corruption every step of the way.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:24 | 677714 pan-the-ist
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You forgot to mention John 'The Supreme Court shouldn't intervene in states rights' Roberts.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:30 | 677730 macholatte
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dead people voted in Chicago. Unregistered people voted in Wisconsin. Acorn had people voting several times.  All of it documented. All of it accepted and approved by the power structure. The Dems did it this time.  The Reps did it last time. Nobody is punished because they all do it. WTF.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:45 | 677363 AnonymousMonetarist
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'Good morning, American people, it’s Alan Greenspan I just wanted to reach across the airwaves and the years and ask you to consider something. I would love you to consider an apology sometime and some full explanation of why you did what you did with your standard of living.

So give it some thought and certainly pray about this and come to understand why you did what you did. OK, have a good day.’



Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:46 | 677371 Joe Davola
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I fully expect Kagan to write the opinion that the scotus can't force a non-governmental, private institution to divulge its records.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:50 | 677388 SymforniX
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Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:02 | 677440 SymforniX
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Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:06 | 677625 DaveyJones
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hard to say this doesn't apply to the Freedom of Information Act


(from the Fed's site)


"The Federal Reserve System is the central bank of the United States. It was founded by Congress in 1913 to provide the nation with a safer, more flexible, and more stable monetary and financial system. Over the years, its role in banking and the economy has expanded.

Today, the Federal Reserve’s duties fall into four general areas:

  • conducting the nation’s monetary policy by inf luencing the monetary and credit conditions in the economy in pursuit of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates
  • supervising and regulating banking institutions to ensure the safety and soundness of the nation’s banking and financial system and to protect the credit rights of consumers
  • maintaining the stability of the financial system and containing systemic risk that may arise in financial markets
  • providing financial services to depository institutions, the U.S. government, and foreign official institutions, including playing a major role in operating the nation’s payments system 

The Federal Reserve is also listed on the FOIA contacts list of the DOJ


not that the Government is following the law anymore 

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:25 | 677717 pan-the-ist
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Actually, Roberts has a history of making these activist Judge type decisions.  Don't bet against him.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:49 | 677379 Dr. Richard Head
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OK.  The Supreme Court will, most likely, rule in favor of the Fed and the $2 Trillion created to support the puppets of this false economy will not be know to the American public.  How many will give two shits?  I can guess a million, maybe two million; of the American public will be extremely offended.  So what happens then?  The people I talk to around my neck of the woods would simply shrug their way back into a pharmacological trance of television watching and masturbation. 

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:50 | 677389 ietalon
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Hear Hear! This is at the very center of all the current problems. This is why

government is ineffective, they are owned. This is why SEC and CFTC is ineffective, they are owned. This is why we have creatures like the Patriot Act, because we are owned. The day we see charges against these crimes will be the day we return to the American ideal.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:50 | 677390 ILikeBoats
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How did a country that is majority Protestant end up with a SCOTUS that only has Catholics and Jews on it? 

Just askin' ...

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:59 | 677432 sawyer
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Maybe you should ask the Protestant school boards across this nation...

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:03 | 677442 optimator
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Diversity is the goal, but not on the Supreme Court, Wall Street, and certainly not the FED.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:08 | 677462 caconhma
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Did you mean the overwhelming Protestant majority?

As for Jews, they indeed control the Wall-Street, the main media, the Congress as well as good portion of an organized crime. Stupid Italian and Mexican gangs just take a fall.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:11 | 677468 svendthrift
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And this control will end. Sometime, somehow. I wonder if they ponder that or if they're so arrogant they think it not possible. We will not live under their thumb forever.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:27 | 677722 pan-the-ist
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Only after all of the wealth has been transferred to Israel.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:52 | 677394 Dr. Engali
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The supreme court will rule in the fed's favor and the American people will bend over and take it.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 19:47 | 679114 StychoKiller
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When did it come to pass that 9 individuals are deemed to have MORE wisdom than 310+Million?

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:56 | 677398 bada boom
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Maybe the court should recluse itself and turn it over to the folks in Hague.

Joking of course, the outcome would be the same, but the process would be more humerous.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:55 | 677410 ietalon
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Rebember Remember the fifth of November.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:14 | 677477 The Navigator
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Gunpowder, tyranny and plot.

I see no reason why gunpowder, tyranny

Should ever be forgot...


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:20 | 677702 Harbourcity
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And thus I clothe my naked villainy

With old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ

And seem a saint when most I play the devil.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:58 | 677423 svendthrift
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The court will rule for the Fed. The government will protect itself.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:00 | 677425 zaknick
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What happens after the judicial branch is also exposed to have been fully bought by the banks, after the executive and the legislative, is up to 99% of the US population.

Only people who are unaware of history and white don't know:


Carrie Buck v. James Hendren Bell, Superintendent of State Colony
for Epileptics and Feeble Minded
Citations 274 U.S. 200 (more)
47 S. Ct. 584; 71 L. Ed. 1000

The ruling was written by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. In
support of his argument that the interest of the states in a "pure"
gene pool outweighed the interest of individuals in their bodily
integrity, he argued: We have seen more than once that the
public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It
would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap
the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not
felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being
swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if
instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to
let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who
are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that
sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting
the Fallopian tubes.

Holmes concluded his argument with the infamous phrase "Three
generations of imbeciles are enough".


And if you think this was a long time ago and not relevant, I ask you: how do you think a man of Thurgood Marshall's calibre was replaced by a scumbag like Thomas?

Here's a recent article titled The Perjurer in the Supreme Court which shows you the true face of the gatekeepers of the oligarchs' modern day Inquisition:


And if you want more evidence that the "courts" are nothing but fascist thugs, read Rodney Stich's Drugging America: A Trojan Horse.

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Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:03 | 677445 Blues Traveler
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"Thank God, it's the police"

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:14 | 677478 99er
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Class Warfare

The rich and their paid false prophets are doing a bang-up job deceiving the poor and middle class. They have convinced many that an evil socialism is alive in the land and it is taking their fair share. But the deception cannot last - facts say otherwise.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:23 | 677511 Joe Davola
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In capitalism the group that has all the power and wealth tells the masses they need to tighten their belts for the collective good, and then there's socialism...

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:17 | 677492 RecoveringDebtJunkie
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Remember this is the same SC that decided Citizens United...

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:27 | 677725 DaveyJones
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exactly, the constitutional game is over

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:19 | 677496 b_thunder
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"What happens after the judicial branch is also exposed to have been fully bought by the banks"  -

ZeroHedge gets raided by the Feds, servers get confiscated, staff is hauled off to one of the "black prisons sites" somewhere in eastern europe.

Perhaps someone dies of polonium poisoning.


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:01 | 677640 ietalon
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"What happens after the judicial branch is also exposed to have been fully bought by the banks"  -

Lets ask Martin Armstrong about due process of the law.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:11 | 677673 PicassoInActions
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And what if consequences of knowing the truth will be a disaster?

Truth is good when it does not concern us. I totaly agree that we should align every banker's and fed's head around great chiness wall and give the order for termination, but releasing the truth that can damage us more is another question.

We should silently cancel every bastard upstairs , but we need to weight the consequences  of the truth getting out and how it can be absorbed.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:18 | 677697 gwar5
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Every American household ought to buy an ounce of gold a month until they cry uncle. 

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:44 | 677767 Cyan Lite
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I hope Tyler Durden puts out a memo to all the readers here to check under their cars for suspicious black boxes.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:05 | 677827 Paul Bogdanich
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A very difficult stuation indeed.  The framers knew pretty well the corruptability of government.  There were many arguements about how to insulate the system from the erosive effects of courtiers.  Jefferson wanted what we now refer to as parlementary democracy.  Washington insisted on a three pronged system inluding a Senate.  If it is the case that a monied group has managed to capture all three prongs of the system, legs of the triad in defense lingo, then the system has arguably failed.  Now the system is, in theory, capable of amendment or self correction but with all three branches of government captured it won't be allowed to do that.  A very, very regretable situation.  Sorry my timing was such that I am forced to wittness it. 

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:38 | 677873 the rookie cynic
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My guess is that if the Supreme Court hears this case, it will rule in favor of the Federal Reserve and cite concerns about “national security” or the “necessary independence of the Federal Reserve” blah. Blah, blah… and the people will get hosed. If they rule against the Federal Reserve and make them tell us what they’ve done with taxpayer money (novel concept I know) we may have some hope.

Jefferson feared the Judiciary branch had become too powerful back in 1821: “The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in the constitution of the federal Judiciary; an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped.” (Letter to Charles Hammond, August 18, 1821)

All of this fuss however is like chaff in the whirlwind, however. There is an oligarchy running the U.S. I have no doubt if Jefferson was to witness how the American “system” has devolved to its present state, he’d have no qualms labeling it for what it is: tyranny.


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 13:05 | 677981 midtowng
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"given the recent Obama appointment"? What are you smoking Tyler? It's conservatives that rush to defend the status quo first.  Always have. Always will.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 13:22 | 678022 MainStMonkey
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Here's the deal folks: You're being lied to left and right! If you are surprized then you deserve that shocked look on your face when the Kleptocracy and its lackies in the gubment go balls deep on you and your bank account! This is never going to end until some brave sould decides that Warren Buffett, Barney Frank, Ben Bernanke and all of the rest need to be a made a violent and public example of! It's not only terrorists that respond differently to violence and swiftness of action! You can GOD DAMN GUARANTEE that if their balls were about to be put in a real (as in pysical) meatgrinder these assholes would be scrambling all over themselves to shut this game down and start blaming each other. If they can just lie and keep on covering the lies for each other than getting fucked in the ass is everybody on the other end's lot in life. Revolution is not about voting a new class of people into office and then praying like hell that the reverse rhetoric is going to save you and your neighbor! It doesn't work like that! George Washington and Ben Franklin and all of the other Founding Fathers of this once great Republic didn't say..."hmmm King George is fucking us in the ass and we are going to go ahead and disagree with him!" They said..." When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government." Essentially, in the parlance of their time (Thank the the lord for the Big Lebowski), FUCK YOU!!! Oh, and we're going to fuck you up until you realize that you're the bitch! Sorry for the language here folks, but these stories just piss me off more and more! Now, I'm just as big of a pussy as my neighbor probably is, and I probably won't be leading said revolution, so any naysayers can take this as they fucking want! I will be interested to see if it happens and will gladly join in when it does! I really think the folks in the inquisition had it right. Lets put Mr. Frank and Mr. Bernanke up on the Spanish Donkey and then see how fast the sdituation changes.

Why are totally depressing assholes ALWAYS WAY AHEAD of everyone else? Here's proof from on oldie but goodie:

Artist: Concrete Blonde

Song: Everybody Knows


Everybody knows the dice are loaded,

Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed, Everybody knows that the war is over, Everybody knows that the good guys lost, Everybody knows the fight is fixed, The poor stay poor and the rich get rich, That's how it goes, when Everybody knows


Everybody knows the boat is sinking,

Everybody knows that the captain lied,

Everybody's got this broken feeling,

like they're momma or they're dog just died, Everybody's hands are in their pockets, Everybody wants a box of chocolates and a long stemmed rose, Cause Everybody knows


Everybody knows that it's now or never,

Everybody knows that it's me or you,

Everybody knows that you live forever,

When Ya maybe had a line or two,

Everybody knows the deal is rotten,

Old black Joe's still pickin cotton,

for your ribbons and bows, When Everybody knows


Everybody knows you love me baby,

Everybody knows you really do,

Everybody knows that you been faithful,

Give or take a night or two,

Everybody knows you been discreet,

So many people you had to meet without your clothes, and everybody knows,


Everybody knows,

Everybody knows,

Thats the way it goes,

When Everybody knows,


Have a great day!

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 14:13 | 678168 MainStMonkey
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LednBrass, I totally agree with you and so did our founding fathers..."Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government."

They were saying that Typcally people will take it all the shit until they can't anymore! bad government or not.This revolution is not about bombs and rockets and nerve gas and shit like that. I mean it is when it comes to outsiders and useful distractions! This war against us is being fought with Ipads and credit for every idiot out there. It is a much better weapon to keep the masses passified! The shit is going to have to get way deeper before the nerve gas gets brought out in the old republic! We have a very smart enemy!


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 15:08 | 678325 Grand Supercycle
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DOW weekly chart shows the rising wedge contained within the megaphone pattern. This remains a very bearish picture and we should
get a breakout soon.

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