Is The Play For Iran's Nukes The Endgame Of Ongoing MENA Violence?

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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:00 | 1198569 Bay of Pigs
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Things appear to be deteriorating rapidly.

Dominos Bitchez.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:16 | 1198790 hardcleareye
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STOP... go back and read the replies to your previous comment.  Your making an ass of yourself!!!

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:27 | 1198889 j0nx
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Your making an ass out of yourself. Nothing ironic about that sentence...

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:18 | 1198791 Long-John-Silver
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* Junks you without prejudice -Bitch-

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:34 | 1198814 NotApplicable
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Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it.
You've now been added to the list of those who would save ZH from itself.

So... you gonna junk Tyler too?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:38 | 1198816 Sabibaby
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Pot, meet kettle.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:39 | 1198820 CH1
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That's the way things are done here - just accept it.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:31 | 1198892 Canucklehead
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Did you grow up under a tarp?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 15:09 | 1199499 Bay of Pigs
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@thatthingcanfly

You can always skip on by comments you don't like. And the reason you don't "get it", is that you miss the spirit of comradarie some of us have for this wonderful place. We call ourselves "bitches", "biotches", "bitchez", etc...

If that offends you, you can always leave. And feel free to junk away anytime you want. Free speech is alive and well here on ZH.

 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 19:09 | 1199920 Gashole
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No it's not.  I have had a post on this thread deleted.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 20:57 | 1200114 Confuchius
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@gashole

You have two problems: Your name is misspelled and your avatar is - - is - - apalling.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 21:15 | 1200130 jm
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On the contrary, that is one fine avatar.  I can almost see it waving in the breeze under a bright sun.  Plus, his comments are a breath of fresh air.

Pandas make great avatars too, but you probably shouldn't harp on others' spelling.

 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 21:34 | 1200146 Gashole
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To Confuchius:

Kish mir in tuchas.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:58 | 1199087 Tail Dogging The Wag
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"Investors need to diversify, they need to own some real estate, they need to own some farmland, they need to own some equities, some cash, and some precious metals..."   Marc Faber —Investment analyst

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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:11 | 1198576 cossack55
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The "big Three" indicators of what is going to happen to any nation on the planet:

1. Do they have oil

2. Do they have gold

3. Do they have a "connected" Central Bank

One might also throw in geographic access to shipping lanes.

Year of The Long Knives

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:21 | 1198585 Breaker
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Do not forget: Would success of the insurgents annoy or please Iran? If Iran would be unhappy with insurgent success, the insurgents will not receive any US support, verbal or otherwise. If Iran would like the insurgents to succeed, the US will demand the government step down and if they are lucky, bomb the regime.

The only exception to that rule so far is Bahrain, where Iran would have loved to see the regime fall. I suspect large amounts of Saudi oil overweighed the "suck up to Iran" rule this administration has followed to date.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 06:43 | 1198644 A Man without Q...
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Please cite specific examples of this "suck up to Iran" rule, and no, the fact the US hasn't bombed or invaded the country does not count...

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 03:17 | 1200406 Breaker
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1. When Iranian students were rising up against the Mullahs, they got nary a word of support from the Obamanator. Nor did they get guns and ammunition on the sly. Zero and his minions have tolerated slaughter and jailing of Iranian citizens on a much larger scale tha Ghadaffi.

2. Iran was cheerleading when Zero insisted that Mubarak step down. Wonder Why? Part of the why is that zero's old buddies, Ayers and Dorhn, had spent some time in Egypt fomenting a rebellion. Taking out the country principally responsible for the fact that Israel has been mostly at peace with it's neighbors (except the Pali's) seems right up their alley as Zero's official envoys to start a revolution.

3. Syria is ripe to fall. It is an Iranian lackey that forces Lebanon to serve as an Iranian base against Israel. No word from Zero that Assad must step down. I hear crickets chirping as I wait for Zero to call for the Sunni majority to replace the Shia Bath party there. Still chirping.

4. Iran is cheering on the Libyan freedom fighters who will probably turn Libya into another Afghanistan, fun loving stays for terrorists in training or on the lam.

As I noted earlier, Bahrain is the sole counterexample to my hypothesis. That is pretty easily explained by the US need to keep the Saudi's pumping oil and it was Saudi troops in Bahrain.

Summary, Zero is consciously and forcefullly representing Iran's interests in he middle east.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 01:37 | 1200361 I dont belong here
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Nonsense. These are staged revolts, with the goal of bringing the price of oil to over 200 a barrel. TPTF couldn't give a rat's ass what Iran thinks of the people involved. Its the CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood for the most part anyway. Every single monarchy and current political group in MENA is going to fall. Saudi Arabia will be last.

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 17:01 | 1201613 natureoftheexpe...
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The U.S finally moving ahead with "Grand Area" goals/unquestionable power. 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:48 | 1198915 mick_richfield
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4. Do they have nuclear weapons.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:00 | 1198935 Popo
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And how many smaller wars will break out and be completely ignored because they don't have any of the above?

For instance:  

http://thaifinancialpost.com/2011/04/23/heavy-fighting-breaks-out-betwee...

 

 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:32 | 1199007 Kickaha
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Back in 1970 or so, I took a poli-sci course taught by a professor (well, actually taught by an Indian grad student with a heavy accent nobody could understand) which thought itself revolutionary as being empirical-based rather than theoretical.  The prof had compiled a list of about 97 wars which had occurred worldwide since the Korean conflict, then reviewed them with an eye to which of maybe 57 different factors were present, and then looked for correlations in the data.

It was cool, because we got to play with punchcards and terminals hooked to the campus mainframe.

But I had never heard of about 92 of those wars.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:00 | 1199383 falak pema
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what is war to locals is a non event to foreigners...In this hyper media age! American Idol is more important than a civil war in Sri Lanka...to US audiences. Its been the case for 70 years!

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 08:25 | 1200532 Urban Redneck
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There is also a disputed offshore boundary between Thailand and Cambodia, which ironically is entirely about oil, but neither side would be supplying the oil produced to the US or EU regardless of how the boundary is drawn and the JDA is finally drafted.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:13 | 1198578 hugovanderbubble
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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:19 | 1198584 BlackholeDivestment
Sat, 04/23/2011 - 06:36 | 1198641 Antarctico
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Nice call on The Call!

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 04:39 | 1198591 nah
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will there be anti royalists, communists, nazis, vietnamize style pragmatic nationalism, or glen beck voodoo when there be no more revolutionary love story

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 06:57 | 1198652 A Man without Q...
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There's a religious conflict brewing in the region, with the Salafi groups led by Saudi, aiming to strike a fatal blow to the Shia bases in Syria and Iran.  Bahrain is a Sunni leadership with a Shia majority - Syria is the other way round, so these are proxy wars as a precursor the coming conflict between Saudi and Iran.  The deal with the devil has Saudi and Israel willing to work together to defeat their enemy in Iran.   

Of course, part of the motivation for the House of Saud is to pander to the extremists in order to distract from the discontent within the country for the inequality and generally worsening living standards.

It is going to get very ugly and oil in Dollars is going to go much higher unless the US uses whatever influence it has left to try and calm the situation.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 07:12 | 1198666 Instant Karma
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I find it difficult to believe that anything good is going to come out of a bunch of twenty something year old arab guys running around the desert with AK 47s and driving pick up trucks loaded with machine guns and rocket launchers yelling Allah Akbar. Looks more like a vision from Mad Max or some horrific post-apocalyptic world.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:36 | 1198755 Moe Howard
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The good part is they are running around over there toting AK 47s and driving pick p trucks loaded with machine guns and rocket launchers yelling Allah Akbar and being killed. Not here.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:06 | 1198780 Holodomor2012
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Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:22 | 1198798 Long-John-Silver
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Who could afford to drive around in a pickup in the USA?

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:10 | 1198869 PY-129-20
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Just wait for the Trumpists.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:53 | 1199456 falak pema
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Trumpists who blow their hornblower...not their horn...

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:45 | 1198908 cossack55
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Good one.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:20 | 1198981 mick_richfield
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Furthermore, my Lord Exchequer, and in spite of well-know Continental Leanings to the contrary, I find it difficult to credit that any Good shall come of Bands of young Colonials, styling themselves "American" to avoid the more apt description of Ruffian and even Traitor, hiding in the Forests like Savages and only coming forth to commit Mayhem and Murder upon the duly appointed Representatives of their Rightful Sovereign.

I can assure you with Confidence that the Exploits of such Ragamuffin Youths shall be quickly extinguished, and soon forgotten.

I remain, as ever, your most faithful Servant, Thom. Hutchinson on this 23 Apr. anno domini 1775 ~

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:36 | 1199029 Kickaha
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I cannot help but also comment that, on a macro basis, there is an oversupply of young arabic men, due to some of those Muslim tenets regarding the role of women.

Places where life is cheap tend to have a lot more armed conflict.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 14:54 | 1199460 falak pema
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what they need is a harem of emancipated women..not horizontal moving tents...

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 07:20 | 1198678 smlbizman
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after learning of the most logical reasons of the "revolution" in libya, one cannot help but find themselves rooting for momar.... 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:23 | 1198801 Long-John-Silver
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Better the controllable despot via a bombing run on his tent than suicidal jihadists that want to die.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 07:28 | 1198686 par4
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...one wonders how staged the latest 'revolution' is...? Sure are a lot of dead protesters for a 'staged' revolution. That seems to be taking 'method' acting to the ultimate extreme.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 07:30 | 1198687 granolageek
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>> sleepy mood courtesy of closed core capital markets<<

 

Sheesh. That's all that matters in life eh? Words fail.

 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 07:34 | 1198688 N57Mike
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Entire situaton, especially Libya, reminiscent of Spanish civil war, pre WW2, worlld powers taking sides & testing out the hardware of war.

http://www.debka.com/article/20862

 

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:13 | 1198727 velobabe
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i have NO idea, what to think that is!

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:11 | 1198728 lindaamick
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Jobs are scarce in the US.  Bullets, bombs and other perishables are

great revenue generators for the remaining manufacturing in the US.

War is the only manufacturing industry in the US that is growing.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 08:43 | 1198761 Moe Howard
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I would think melting copper wires and pennies for recycling would be a growing manufacturing industry in the US. Not that I would avocate starting a smelter. But if you did, only use non-US pennies. Destroying US currency by melting is a Federal Crime.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 09:30 | 1198809 Long-John-Silver
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The federal government is committing criminal acts on it's citizens. It has wiped it's ass with the constitution. I care not about the criminal enterprise known as our government.

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