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A Politico Exclusive: Getting bin Laden - How The Mission Went Down
From Politico's Mike Allen
Getting Osama bin Laden: How the mission went down
The helicopter It was a heart-stopping moment for President Barack Obama, who had “Obviously, everyone was thinking about Black Hawk Down and Desert One,” a senior administration official recalled. The SEALs disembarked. “The assault team went ahead and raided the compound, even though The special forces put bombs on the crippled chopper and blew it up, The sick chopper turned out to be a tiny wrinkle in an astounding He was buried at sea less than 12 hours later. He was 54. Here’s how the world’s most-hunted man was vanquished, as recounted by senior administration officials: Contrary to the intelligence community’s long-held belief that bin “Bin Laden was living in a relatively comfortable place: a compound Officials described the raid as the culmination of years of highly On June 2, 2009, just over four months into his presidency, Obama had In the biggest break in a global pursuit of bin Laden that stretched “They indicated he might be living Officials didn’t learn the courier’s name until 2007. Then it took two “It was a “Holy cow!” moment,” an official said. The compound had been relatively secluded when it was built in 2005 — on “In the last six years, some residential homes have been built nearby,” Everything about the compound signaled that it was being used to hide someone important. “It has 12- to 18-foot walls topped with barbed wire,” the official For all their suspicions, U.S. officials never knew for sure that bin Laden was inside. The White House’s original plan had been to bomb the house, but Obama ultimately decided against that. “The helicopter raid was riskier. It was more daring,” an official told Officials knew there were 22 people living there, and Obama wanted to be The SEALs held rehearsals of the raid on April 7 and April 13, with officials monitoring the action from Washington. As the real thing approached, daily meetings were held of the national Over the past seven weeks, Obama had chaired numerous National Security “In the lead up to this operation, the President convened at least 9 At an April 19 meeting in the Last Thursday, just after his East Room announcement that Panetta would Obama didn’t announce his decision at the meeting, but kept his counsel overnight. In the White House Diplomatic Room at 8:20 a.m. on Friday, before flying Donilon signed a written authorization to Panetta, who commanded the The raid was scheduled for Saturday, the day when Obama and most of the Top West Wing staff worked most of the day on the operation. Senior The official’s e-mail gave this account of Obama’s day: “2:00pm the In the Situation Room, the president was surrounded by Daley, Donilon, Panetta was at CIA headquarters, where he had turned his conference room With the team still in the compound, the commander on the ground told a remote commander that they had found bin Laden. Applause erupted in Washington. Three other adult males were killed with bin Laden, officials said. “We believe two were the couriers and the third was bin Laden’s adult U.S. forces took photographs of the body, and officials used It was him. At 11:35 p.m., Obama stepped into the East Room and told the world: “Justice has been done.”
carrying Navy SEALs malfunctioned as it approached Osama bin Laden’s
compound at about 3:30 p.m. ET Sunday, stalling as it hovered. The pilot
set it down gently inside the walls, then couldn’t get it going again.
been monitoring the raid in the White House Situation Room since 1 p.m.,
surrounded by members of his war cabinet.
they didn’t know if they would have a ride home,” an official said.
then lifted off in a reinforcement craft just before 4:15 p.m., capping
an astounding 40 minutes that gave the United States a tectonic victory
in the 10-year war on terror touched off by 9/11.
military and intelligence triumph. Bin Laden was shot in the face by the
SEALs during a firefight after resisting capture.
Laden was in a lawless “no man’s land” on the Pakistani border, bin
Laden had been hiding in a three-story house in a one-acre compound in
Abbottabad, about 35 miles north of Islamabad, the Pakistani capital.
Officials describe it as a relatively affluent community, with lots of
residents who are retired military.
valued at about $1 million,” a senior U.S. official told POLITICO. “Many
of his foot soldiers are located in some of the remotest regions of
Pakistan and live in austere conditions. You’ve got to wonder if they’re
rethinking their respect for their dead leader. He obviously wasn’t
living as one of them.”
advanced intelligence work that included the National
Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), which specializes in imagery and
maps, and the National Security Agency (NSA), the “codemakers and
codebreakers” who can covertly watch and listen to conversations around
the world.
signed a memo to CIA Director Leon Panetta stating “in order to ensure
that we have expanded every effort, I direct you to provide me within 30
days a detailed operation plan for locating and bringing to justice”
bin Laden.
back to the Clinton administration, the U.S. discovered the compound by
following one of the terrorist’s personal couriers, identified by
terrorist detainees as one of the few al Qaeda couriers who bin Laden
trusted.
with and protecting bin Laden,” a senior administration official told
reporters on a midnight conference call. “Detainees gave us his nom de
guerre, or his nickname, and identified him as both a protégé of Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of September 11th, and a trusted
assistant of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the former number three of al Qaeda who
was captured in 2005.”
years to find him and track him back to this compound, which was
discovered in August 2010.
the outskirts of the town center, at the end of a narrow dirt road.
an official said on the call. “The main structure, a three-story
building, has few windows facing the outside of the compound. A terrace
on the third floor … has a seven-foot privacy wall. … [T]he property is
valued at approximately $1 million but has no telephone or Internet
service connected to it.”
said. “Internal wall sections — internal walls sectioned off different
portions of the compound to provide extra privacy. Access to the
compound is restricted by two security gates, and the residents of the
compound burn their trash, unlike their neighbors, who put the trash out
for collection.
POLITICO. “But he wanted proof. He didn’t want to just leave a pile of
rubble.”
sure not to kill civilians unnecessarily. So he ordered officials to
come up with an air-assault plan.
security principals, chaired by National Security Adviser Tom Donilon,
and their deputies, chaired by John Brennan, the president’s
counterterrorism adviser.
Council meetings on the topic, including ones on March 14, March 29,
April 12, April 19 and April 28.
meetings with his national security Principals,” a senior administration
official e-mailed reporters. “Principals met formally an additional
five times themselves; and their Deputies met 7 times. This was in
addition to countless briefings on the subject during the President’s
intelligence briefings; and frequent consultations between the [White
House National Security Council], CIA, [Defense Department] and Joint
Staff. The President was actively involved in reviewing all facets of
the operation.”
Situation Room, the president approved the air assault as the course of
action. He ordered the force to fly to the region to conduct it.
succeed Robert Gates as Defense Secretary, the president held another
meeting in the Situation Room, and went through everyone’s final
recommendations.
down to view tornado destruction in Alabama, Obama informed Donilon
that he was authorizing the operation. Also attending the meeting were
Brennan, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley and Deputy National
Security Adviser Denis McDonough.
strike team. Donilon convened a principals’ meeting at 3 p.m. to finish
the planning.
West Wing was due at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner.
But weather pushed it to Sunday.
national-security officials stayed in the Situation Room beginning at 1
p.m.
President met with the Principals to review final preparations. … 3:32pm
the President returned to the Sit Room for an additional briefing. …
3:50pm the President first learns that UBL was tentatively identified. …
7:01pm the President learns that there’s a ‘high probability’ the HVT
[high-value target] was [bin Laden]. … 8:30pm the President receives
further briefings.”
McDonough, Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Joint Chiefs of
Staff Chairman Mike Mullen, Director of National Intelligence James
Clapper, and others.
into a command center that gave him constant contact with the tactical
leaders of the strike team.
son,” an official said on the call. “There were several women and
children at the compound. One woman was killed when she was used as a
shield by a male combatant. Two other women were injured.”
facial-recognition technology to compare them with known pictures of bin
Laden.
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could this be anymore muddled, bad enough they bury the guy at sea but then this report from ABC News
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/president-obama-had-auth...
He did not want to risk collateral damage to nieghboring Costsellobad.
First big laugh of my day...
Author! Author! Bravo Milestones
Author! Author! Bravo Milestones
Chortle, coffee out of my nose moment!
"DETAILS: Osama Bin Laden 'Shot in the Face' by Navy SEALS"
"officials used facial-recognition technology to compare them with known pictures of bin Laden."
I'm not some conspiracy nut but that must be SOME software!
Maybe Bonzai has some file photos of Bill the Cat he can "before and after" with OBL (or UBL as the case may be...)
Shot in the face likely means a double tap to the forehead. In other words, no trial, do not pass go, etc. They wanted him dead, not captured.
They really expect us to believe everything we hear on the news, I guess.
If you have any experience with Photoshop or make-up, please raise your hand now. I have extensive PS experience personally, and yes, the photo could easily be faked by taking a picture of someone who has died via shots to the face, and merging the Osama half of the face and the top half of unfortunate face-blasted fellow's photo.
That there is no body, and no trial is MEGA suspicious! They couldn't use tear gas or something to incapacitate him, huh? No one wanted that $25m??? WTF? Dumped at sea.... OK...
Actually, only 12 year olds and under believe everything on the news. It is distorted, dramatized, sometimes given by big boobed blonde bimbos or ranting and raving idiots rather then somber and intelligent newscasters, played with so CNN and the like can turn 2 minutes of news into hours of drivel. Adults should be more aware.
He was probably shot in the forehead. A likely place when you are resisting arrest and hiding.
Everyone can alter a photo, but that doesn't make you an expert. Also the photo wasn't used to identify him, face recognition software was. Please note how many people here asked for a picture... as proof!
Bringing the body back to America would have been like a trophy. Why was it necessary? As prooof? Would people want to "view " the body? (As many people as wanted to see rubble and destruction?)
DNA kits are avaiable to be portable and to check DNA in a very short period of time. it may not yet be available to use for the public, but you can be quite sure it can be available for the CIA et al.
http://www.micronit.com/footer/news/publications/item/integrated-microfl...
We Westerners are disgusted by the lack of compassion of Islams, yet run to the street to cheer just as they have done. Interesting that we think we are so much better.
And those calling for 22 people inside to die, when out to kill only Bin Laden, when just taking him out him alone was the right thing to do. Why are are people here upset they didn't just bomb it? ( are they the same people who want proof?)
The people on this thread are not "experts" at much other than conspiracy theories. Are there many here who can actually prove they are over 12? Thus far I haven't seen much proof. If you take off your tinfoil hats every now and then, your heads might not be so pointy....
Bro, I hope they are paying you real good money to sell out your fellow human.
Your post reads like something straight out of a CIA manual, first try to establish sympathy/credibility and then deliver (or in this case, simply repeat) the disinformation. A lie told often enough, right?
You say: "Adults should be more aware." And then you go along to explain why you believe every part of the official story, and why people should be LESS skeptical? WTF? Kind of an inconsistent message, don't you think?
Why do we need to see the body? So that we know we aren't being lied to!!! That this doesn't occur to the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) is patently unbelievable. They know people will want proof, but 'discard the body in the sea' without so much as a picture released to the public?
Yup... the readership here is oficially the tinhat crowd...
(but so sorry you can't recognize intelligence and logic anymore. I see and serve plenty of you in the soup kitchen I volunteer at though!)
Nice response to the sociopathic. But will they get it?
Bro, I hope they are paying you real good money to sell out your fellow human.
Or maybe this is the real deal after all: spectator.org/archives/2009/03/13/osama-bin-elvis
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The I've bin laden blues... ;-)
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/aaaahhhve-bin-laden-see-i-ave/
ORI
FMJ rounds would leave a nice little hole in the front. Extensive bruising and would show on the face but other then that, it's the back of the hear that would be jacked up. Even if they weren't using FMJ rounds, it's the back of the head that gets totally messed up. entyr into the eye socket woudl also leave less damage to the front of the face. Either way, ZH has more conspiracy freaks than I had ever thought possible. LMAO
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apply at the White House
Brilliant :)
No one provided a suitable ending, thus I shall do so:
Kudos. You're on first.
:-0 Awesomeabad!
ORI
OMFG!!!!!!! This is so funny! Thanks for the laugh.
Abbottobad, Costsellogood? Who's on second HVT?
Obama will be the object of endlessly glowing new stories of his heroism, but is this true?
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/05/hero-or-zero-did-we-really-...
Call me paranoid, but somehow I suspect otherwise. Meanwhile, Israel might be on the verge of taking out Iran's nuclear program:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/iran-tv-israeli-warplanes-...
At this point, calling you paranoid would be a compliment.
absolutely.
not junk
just because you know that you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't watching you.
reads more like the first draft of the Manchurian Candidate script
This article reads like a poorly written Tom Clancy novel...or something satirical from The Onion.
yeah it's piss poor...all this "Navy SEAL" shit like out of the movies.
This isn't the SEALs' mission profile at all. They were about a thousand miles from water. Delta guys are who do this crap. And the CIA has its own specops crew as well.
Rangers.
Actually, Seals do not only do amphibious assaults. Also, a lot of the special operation teams share "assets." So it could have been a combined force, but lead by the Seals. In fact, the heli pilots are not Seals. So, it's just easier to say it was a Seal operation, especially if the operators were predominantly Seals, if not exclusively.
Seals carry a lot more fire power than any other special forces units. Rangers are badasses no doubt, but they don't go in for a firefight, those guys are gone and you are dead before anyone knows they were there.
need more Ninjas Pirates & Vikings
Just how stupid do they think we are burying the most wanted man in the world at sea?!
http://dont-tread-on.me/osama-bin-laden-conveniently-buried-at-sea/
They think that we are very stupid, or at least impotent to do anything about it...
impotent is as impotent does.
Anybody else notice that he was very conveniently "shot in the face" while resisting arrest?
wtf are you talking about?
The Isrealies did the same thing with Eichmans body.
These weak, flawed, bullshit narratives are given on purpose. They want to encourage our conspiracy theories because it makes us look stupid, even though we're right. So they introduce these obviously nonsensical bullshit stories in order to provoke us - then they laugh when we point it out. The sheep will believe it and we won't, but the sheep will think we're crazy and won't listen to us. Exactly as planned. The idea is to keep the smart poor guys like us from exposing them until it's too late.
They don't think we're stupid, they know we're stupid. Did you see all those morons partying last night? They'll accept illegal wars an tyranny much easier now.
It's now quite clear to me what happened: some 4chan prankster sent it a "tip" that Osama bin Whoagain was holed up in some mansion in Abbotobad (he just made it up but it turns out it's a real place...whoulda thunk?) So they assemble a crack crew to storm the compound that most closely matched this "intelligence". These roided up testosterone-laden yahoos, so worked up over killing A-rabs, got ahead of themselves and started shooting through the walls of the helicopter before they even landed, disabling the craft and forcing a crash landing. To hide evidence of their idiocy, they blow up the helicopter, then proceed to shoot up the place from every imaginable direction. In the end, they find the place empty, except for some paid staff that long since ran off through the front door, leaving only Fifi the french poodle of the mansion owner to fend for herself. However, Fifi being no match for the US Navy, she was picked off and then buried at sea, it being agreed that the dog had a striking enough resemblance to their target to call it "Mission Accomplished".
The End.
I am Chumbawamba.
Brings new meaning to the term 'premature ejeculation'. :>)
Fifi will go down in history as the first doggy martyr to have died for a dude who had one poodle and thirty two feminine doodles...the french should name a dish after this martyr dog, Jeanne of Abbotabad?, to be only eaten on a porcelain plate and not in a take-away doggy bag!
chumbawamba: what an awe inspiring "made for TV" moment.
The only thing buried at sea was the truth. Much like after 9/11 the biggest crime scene in the world all the primary evidence of steel girders was shipped off overseas to be melted down.
Finally Osama better not come back in some "Christmas special" just in time to implement some new draconian security measure like airport pat downs or ongoing surveillance monitoring of citizens via Patriot (WOOT!! WHO-AH!!) act extension.
Oh, don't be such a damn cynic. Why, I'm sure our Fearless Leader is preparing at this very moment to announce to the nation that, our enemy and head Doer of Evil having been vanquished, the War of Terror is now over and we can all go back to consuming conspicuously and smoking on airplanes.
I am Chumbawamba.
love the poodle reference, subtle. . .
amrka is carrying on with hollywood-style scripted rulership, broadcasting the narratives in minute details so that even the least imaginative can have their minds planted with a pretty picture that will "make sense" to them as this insane machine lumbers forward.
anyone remember the movie Brazil, where the highways were lined with massive "billboards" depicting lovely homes & gardens, and behind the billboards lay chaotic wastelands?
the above post, this scripted fantasy, with all the emotions THERE for you to FEEL, courtesy of the banker.govs that control "reality" (insert trademark)
nope. "shot in the head." you "waitin' for Satan," too? "they GOT him."
So which is it? US has body? Or buried at sea?
are my ears playing tricks on me or did i just hear rick santelli say "obama bin ladin ?
According to my sources at JSOC reports that Bin Laden's body was buried at sea are untrue (just another CIA smokescreen). The head was removed for delivery to the Iranian Council of Imams and the body sent to a halal butcher shop in Islamabad for processing and sale as 'lamb'.
Allahu Akbar!...and a shout-out to Barry Obama.
What?...junked 6 times??
Was it the shout-out to BO?
OK, it was likely the butcher shop story. That didn't sound kosher to me either.
I will try to vet my sources more thoroughly in the future.
the silence of the PAKI'S is deafening. You think they'd hesitate to say "you missed"?
"Bin Laden was shot in the face by the SEALs during a firefight after resisting capture.
He was buried at sea less than 12 hours later. He was 54".
Seriously???? I am sure I will not be the only one to comment on this, but you have got to be kidding.
As further details emerge, "OBL was shot in the face by a Barret 50 cal sniper rifle at close range in the compound. Odd as it may seem it was the weapon of choice for the commandos this mission, b/c they needed an accurate weapon, and 'couldn't afford to miss' ". The only downside of the facial obliteration of OBL was the difficulty of a visual ID.
DNA samples gathered match lab results, and there are printouts to prove it. Like all Navy war heroes he was buried at sea. Allowing any 3rd party to review the ID match was deemed unnecessary b/c the SEALS were damn sure they got their man.
Seriously though, if true, a surgical job by the pros. But some of the details, as always leave more questions than answers.
The timing reminds me of WAG THE DOG, the film.
Really? Shot in the face and buried at sea.
WTF? Sheeple story.
The Teams use a .458 for cqc..
http://teppojutsu.com/
But as for him being dead?
CIA para millitary unit? and seals for perimeter security? and they shot him in the face?
Those guys chould shot the tip of his finger off while he was holding the gun in the firing position.
How much is the intell in his head worth? I would give Bin Laden a Liver and Blood transfusions just to keep him alive and talking.
"How much is the intell in his head worth? I would give Bin Laden a Liver and Blood transfusions just to keep him alive and talking."
Jesus H. on a Harley, there's always some guy who belabors the FRIGGING OBVIOUS THAT SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED TO EVERYONE WITH TWO NEURONS TO RUB TOGETHER, for gosh sakes!
Once again, JW in Fl nails it! A bull's eye!
Now, why wouldn't a single soul in the intel community have thought of that??? Or one of those six- or seven-figure stenographs in the Korporate Non-media??
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/insidenova/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-dna-matching.html
When we heard that Osama Bin Laden had been positively identified using DNA, we wanted to know: How did they do that so quickly?
"Forensic DNA testing can be done very quickly--in a few hours," says George Church, Professor of Genetics at Harvard Medical School and Director of the Center for Computational Genetics. (Church also heads up the Personal Genome Project, which we covered on NOVA scienceNOW back in 2008.) "Typically the protocol is PCR"--that's polymerase chain reaction, a technique for making multiple copies of a piece of DNA--"from tiny amounts of sample, followed by gel separation of DNA size variants." These "size variants," which are DNA chunks of different lengths, together create a unique "fingerprint" that can be used to identify an individual.
I'm not an expert in this, but I read somewhere that snipers use high-caliber bullets so they don't have to be precisely accurate in their shots. Even if they miss a vital organ with a 0.50 caliber bullet, the entry and exit wounds will probably ensure fatality. I can't imagine what Bin Laden's face must have looked like shot at close range with such a large bullet.
IN YOUR PHUCKING FACE. SEAL way.
Same guy who worked on Hopey's birth cert did the photoshop job:
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/02/6568249-we-think-that-bi...
Isn't there a law somewhere about getting shot in the face?
Just sayin, did they have to be so brutal?
*cough* JFK autopsy.
Oh you're all experts aren't you?
Who in their right mind would bring a .50 cal into a CQB environment? Accurate? Hardly, it doesn't even qualify as a "sniper rifle" since it holds 2moa at 1,000m. Clearing a room with a .50? Haha. Whatever inaccuracies you find in your sources are probably due to your sources having little or no real world knowledge in these things.
Regards
8541 - 11B2V 2002-2006 (USMC Scout Sniper - Airborne Ranger)
Hmmmmmm.....
This was issued to me:
http://www.snipercentral.com/m82.htm
I've zeroed 1moa at 100m but the group opens up considerably at 1000m+. Point is, that sort of weapon would be used in over watch positions, not inside the compound. Besides, it's rare for teams to use the .50's nowadays since they're so heavy and inaccurate. There's plenty of lighter and more powerful assets to bring along. But small claims like that are target indicators for BS.
Those are issued to SOME snipers - many now go with 338 lapua or 300 Win Mag or the Accuracy International 406. Those are not the weapons issued to Navy Seal speed teams where weight is Everything.
Barret makes a 20" M82 CQB model that is just what the doctor ordered for stopping vehicles and shooting through schools, all while still easily fitting through the door of your GM Suburban.
Perhaps you might want to consider adding a sarcasm-proof vest to your arsenal.
I am Chumbawamba.
As a former marine myself - I can assure you that a 50 cal is not the weapon of choice for such a mission - if for no other reason the weight alone. That said - I do find it a bit odd that - given we have spent trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, and countless liberties to try to get this guy -- they "Supposedly" get him and then before the news even breaks on U.S. T.V. - we learn that he has been buried at sea. There is NO WAY - that such a mission would have been undertaken without helmet cams being deployed on those involved in the mission. Show me the fucking film of him taking a round through the eye socket and his brains splattering against the wall -- then you may get my attention. Until then - this IMHO is just one more pathetic piece of propoganda - like the 40 times we captured Sadam - and was probably just another Game Obama is playing so he can preenpt Celebrity Apprentace to piss off "The Donald". How fucking people who have been lied to repeately over the past 10 years can just say -- Ohhh -- O.K. -- Next is absolutely astonishing to me. I WANT ROCK SOLID PROOF - not some Bullshit Woard of our government.
I agree with everything you said excepting for one item:
"I can assure you that a 50 cal is not the weapon of choice for such a mission - if for no other reason the weight alone."
Remember, these were squids, not SOC Marines.
They probably normally don't think about such stuff.....
True - which gives me even more doubt since most squids I knew couldn't even lift a 50 cal
Since Obama was killed seven years ago, this protoplasmic entity was clearly his zombie, hence the need to shoot him in the head.
Since you can never be too sure about zombies, best to dump the body in a deep ocean trench.
what happened to that "zombie proof house" btw? i was thinkin' "10 million."
You saw the body? You have picture proof? Wow!
I don't know your financial position, but if you offered your photographic evidence to some beacon of journalistic integrity like the National Enquirer or People, they might pay you, like, millions!
Jesus, do any of you guys do anything but sit behind a terminal and or blog all day? I'm usually on board with the tinfoil stuff and hell this may be too but NO ONE carries a .50 cal into a fire fight. The guy shooting that thing is a half mile away and his rifle is on a tripod. Good luck setting that heavy mother fucker up in the middle of damn close quarters fire fight. Most likely he took 5.56 to the forehead. As about a dozen people have said, it's a quarter size hole in the front and fist size in the back. You guys go outside a little more, shoot a gun, dig a ditch, weld something and learn some practical fucking knowledge.
If you really believe this Garbage, then you fall for what is coming. Let me predict a huge "bad" event, right around the corner. Just a prediction ...mind you. Let's see.. Al-Qaida will be blamed, and much chaos will ensue. Ohh, and much more control over you and me ...will ensue.
Just a prediction, I do not want to come true, but know it will.
The gubmint is definitely in need of a false flag of some sort. I notice the talk now is about RETALIATION! This is scary stuff, not because of what the "terrorists" might do to us, but what our own government is about to do to us.
they'll think twice. "she's called the Big Ugly Fat Fucker." Wing tip to wing tip as they say.
Boeing B-52 Stratofortress. Rev em up!
GRID SQUARES bitchez!
B-52 = B.U.F.F.
I wonder if Obam let the Pakistani's know they were coming to kill the OBL, considering the Pakistani's were not only hiding OBL, but built the compound for him. And, that compound is located in an area thick with retired high-level Pakistani army officers.
Shot in the face, body dumped in sea? Hmmmmmm
Trolls junked you, mass, but i'm totally in agreement. they wouldn't take this step without some other plan in mind. Why waste such a big (totally bullshit) opportunity? Something's coming, for sure...
Perhaps you were contemplating, since they've managed to get around Pete DeFazio's barring of Mexican trucking companies in the USA (the American worker thanks you, Obama of Wall Street), of a mysterious explosion taking out Californian seaports unloading container ships, thus forcing the further reliance upon that deep sea, Chinese-built, Mexican port and those Mexican trucking companies -- doing a runaround of the Longshoremen's Union and Teamsters Union?
hadn't heard of it, tell me more.
Really? Lets see the pictures.
Here ya go.
http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/nucleus/media/21/20060923-torturedosam...
They are typical amerikan lying pieces of S---.
Check out the true facts here:
http://thedailybell.com/2211/Benazir-Bhutto-Bin-Laden-Was-Murdered.html%22
stop sucking yo mama's wanker.
all this is great, but, is a red herring. what's more important is what's NOT being said. THE SILENCE IS DEFEANING!
http://covert2.wordpress.com
from whom?
yea how about you try some deafening silence for a while numpty?
Nice piece of fiction.
shut up nut job.
When the first chopper went bad, they might have wondered if they were actually in the wrong town, ie. Costelloabad, not Abbotabad...
priceless. best comment ever on ZH.
It always helps to throw in an accident, a slip up from the master plan, makes more believers.
Thats the reason for the chopper story.
Thats the reason for the 4th plane that went down in Penn during 911.
It makes the whole story more believeable. If that plan hit the WH, it would of been 4/4.
Just sayin.
no one is more conspriatorial in thinking than me. "motive, means and opportunity" is the standard however. just "throwing it out there" ain't good enough. Obama was scared to death when he gave the news conference (AT MIDNIGHT!) because "how is one to know." YOU KNOW BECAUSE THIS ENEMY IS TRYING TO ANNIHILATE US. And the beauty? (and there is beauty in this) is..."HE'S JUST ONE GUY.' Move along--"you'll get your war, too."
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no spot taggin for you!
Buried at sea?
What a fucking joke. Wag the Dog anyone?
I guess we'll just have to take their word for it. In other news silver almost back to $47
Big big mistake. This will fuel conspiracy theories for years. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!
Yes... that's the problem... the conspiracy theories.
Here are somethings to consider:
Will this change the security structure of the United States?
Will this cause a retraction of the PATRIOT Act?
Will this end the persistent wars in the Middle East?
Will the American economy miraculously recover?
Renewing the War on Terror.
To answer your questions:
Will this change the security structure of the United States?
Yes, undoubtedly we will be at level red or whatever it is now, for some time to come.
Will this cause a retraction of the PATRIOT Act?
Not a chance in hell.
Will this end the persistent wars in the Middle East?
Again, not a chance in hell.
Will the American economy miraculously recover?
That is an interesting question. In the long run no. But undoubtedly there will be a positive bump till the euphoria wears off.
No
No
No
No
+1,000
"This will fuel conspiracy theories for years."
If I put it in my car will it fuel it?
let it happen. HE AIN'T LEADIN' NO ARMY!
You really do miss the Big Picture.
If you don’t know by now, it doesn’t really matter what happened. The conspiracy theories will come fast and furious no matter what.
If Osama wasn’t killed and this news never happened, then “Osama is Tim Osman, key CIA Operative, Psy-Op, False Flag, Classic Misdirection”.
Osama was killed. “Really, where’s the body”.
Osama killed, photos produced. "Photoshop. Look, see the artifacts in the upper left corner?"
Osama killed, body produced. “Hollywood FX people can make a better rubber corpse than that!”.
SEALS led the operation. “SEALS are water people, this was on land.” (Apparently SEALS have some sort of union rules prohibiting them from non-aquatic ops, though the burial at sea was a nice touch.)
Are you beginning to get the picture?
SEALS DO conduct land operations.
This is rich. They go to the trouble of taking the body then dump it in the sea?
just being "respectful" that's all. you now how all us Special Ops guys are.
Respectful assassins. I like it.
That boby could have been auctioned off for millions of dollars to some eccentic US billionaire dump fucks, and the proceeds to pay 911 victims. Donald Trump should of been all over that idea.
If his floating at sea, then I guess his free for anyone to grab?
There are no pictures? Buried at sea?
I can think of a number of countries that would have been proud to take him- for the martyr value, if nothing else. The Saudi's would have taken him as well.
Pakistan says they helped, but the US denies this. How do you mount an operation 40 miles from Islamabad without the Pakis knowing?
Now, (marketwatch) it seems they have done a dna match.
Benezir Bhutto said he was dead years ago.
If you want to make a guy impotent, you kill him, let him sit for years, diminish his "communiques and bury him at sea so no one can glorify him. This has the CIA all over it.
The Saudi's were offered his body but declined..They were the only ones that were offered because his grave site anywhere else would have been a shrine...
I don't know if your statement is true or not, but it reeks of rationality, and that sort of thing has no place on this site.
we could have buried him alive unfortunately we'd killed him already. "it was an accident." that friggin' martyr "got in the way" and i popped off "three rounds instead of two."
Yes, this statement perplexes me to no end. They better have pictures ready to be released on all the front page papers by weeks end or conspiracists will have a field day. Plus DNA matching takes a while, unless the CIA has some new tech the medical field doesn't know about.
It is reported that Bin Laden's sister died in a Boston hospital recently and they kept her DNA for just such a moment as this. They supposedly matched his to hers in some way that satisfied them.
Interesting, isn’t it, that Israeli research has found a way to falsify DNA… Also, interesting that DNA test results normally take two weeks or more, holding up murder trials… but we found a way around that, too…
When the government lies to you, you never believe it again, particularly when it's to their advantage. It’s to their advantage to have a bigger and bigger government and to silence their critics. Why should anyone believe them?
Damn this going be a busy week of the CIA's
"forged papers" department.
DNA match? sure, they have tons of his DNA, so a match shouldn't take long at all. Probably got it when he was hospitalized just before 9/11, when he was visited in the hospital by the CIA...
OBL's in Davey Jones' Locker now...
shit someone's knocking at the door
lol nobody home but us octopi?
how 'bout a phucking squid!
nice one...yeah...one of those vampire squids, and with the disappearing money ink that some squids spray at challengers lol
"we have folks who make debt disappear and trade oil" GOLDMAN PHUCKING SACHS.
arrr, now thems real pirates
hey, watch who you calling a squid. I resemble that remark.
He "was buried at sea less than 12 hours later" - umm he was thrown in the ocean? Oh the theatrics!
In addition to being shot in the face.... wow. It just doesn't get any better than this...
ANd there is radiation in the sea. Man dont they know any better?
Shot through the eye, so as to not mess up the face. Facial recognition software used on dead face and old pictures. Software claimed a match. Muslim protocol requires no embalming and burial within 24 hours. Burial at sea only if no other option exists. U.S. claims that no country would take the body. Dumped from a plane with weights attached. The Little Mermaid is building a shrine as we speak.
ooops. "we slipped."
BULLSHIT.
Shit is getting rediculous at this point.
I hear that helicopter just barely missed Santa's reindeer.
Let me see if I have this correct. Two helicopters approached, one with the main Seal strike team and one with reinforcements? Usually a second (sometimes smaller) helicopter is providing air cover. The helicopter with the Seal team breaks down and after killing OBL they all pile into the second helicopter that's already carrying the reinforcements? Now that's one seriously overloaded helicopter.
They certainly didn't fly in a second helicopter empty just in case. Or did they? If so what does a reinforcement craft mean? So the question is.....how many Seals can fit in a helicopter? How many Seals were on this mission? How many were in the second 'reinforcement' helicopter? They had the crew plus gunners at the doors at least.
With 22 men known to be in the compound would they only send in a half dozen Seals in one helicopter? How big were the helicopters? How many helicopters? Were the Seals wearing boxers or briefs and how well were they briefed in advance?
So many questions, so few logical answers.
Takes the heat off the fake birth certificate issue, debt ceiling can be raised without much fanfare and the announcement of QE3 by the FED won't make the evening news.
Maybe Hawai'i can produce a Certificate of Live Death for bin Laden?
Won't be the same guy who made Obama's Birth Certificate, he was fired. Surely they can Photoshop a picture of OBL with a bullet hole through his eye, and not have every junior high school kid with a computer prove it's a fake?
I hear they had Lindsay England on the Carrier "for added effect." Cigarette included!
Obama - WAR LEADER. Who'd a thunk?
This is very much about politics and the 2012 election, especially the way Politico wrote the story. I'm also very suspicious about the initial crowd celebrating outside the WH. Everyone looked awfully young. Were they bussed in for the occasion?
Obama isn't a war leader until he lands on an carrier in a fighter jet, then bounces out with his parachute straps so tight around his groin area that his junk is on display for the world to see if he really is carrying a big stick.
Just sayin' that this is the new standard to meet.
That is a classic CD. Too funny! :-)
The visual is quite disturbating, if you know what I mean!
ORI