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A Politico Exclusive: Getting bin Laden - How The Mission Went Down
From Politico's Mike Allen
Getting Osama bin Laden: How the mission went down
The helicopter It was a heart-stopping moment for President Barack Obama, who had “Obviously, everyone was thinking about Black Hawk Down and Desert One,” a senior administration official recalled. The SEALs disembarked. “The assault team went ahead and raided the compound, even though The special forces put bombs on the crippled chopper and blew it up, The sick chopper turned out to be a tiny wrinkle in an astounding He was buried at sea less than 12 hours later. He was 54. Here’s how the world’s most-hunted man was vanquished, as recounted by senior administration officials: Contrary to the intelligence community’s long-held belief that bin “Bin Laden was living in a relatively comfortable place: a compound Officials described the raid as the culmination of years of highly On June 2, 2009, just over four months into his presidency, Obama had In the biggest break in a global pursuit of bin Laden that stretched “They indicated he might be living Officials didn’t learn the courier’s name until 2007. Then it took two “It was a “Holy cow!” moment,” an official said. The compound had been relatively secluded when it was built in 2005 — on “In the last six years, some residential homes have been built nearby,” Everything about the compound signaled that it was being used to hide someone important. “It has 12- to 18-foot walls topped with barbed wire,” the official For all their suspicions, U.S. officials never knew for sure that bin Laden was inside. The White House’s original plan had been to bomb the house, but Obama ultimately decided against that. “The helicopter raid was riskier. It was more daring,” an official told Officials knew there were 22 people living there, and Obama wanted to be The SEALs held rehearsals of the raid on April 7 and April 13, with officials monitoring the action from Washington. As the real thing approached, daily meetings were held of the national Over the past seven weeks, Obama had chaired numerous National Security “In the lead up to this operation, the President convened at least 9 At an April 19 meeting in the Last Thursday, just after his East Room announcement that Panetta would Obama didn’t announce his decision at the meeting, but kept his counsel overnight. In the White House Diplomatic Room at 8:20 a.m. on Friday, before flying Donilon signed a written authorization to Panetta, who commanded the The raid was scheduled for Saturday, the day when Obama and most of the Top West Wing staff worked most of the day on the operation. Senior The official’s e-mail gave this account of Obama’s day: “2:00pm the In the Situation Room, the president was surrounded by Daley, Donilon, Panetta was at CIA headquarters, where he had turned his conference room With the team still in the compound, the commander on the ground told a remote commander that they had found bin Laden. Applause erupted in Washington. Three other adult males were killed with bin Laden, officials said. “We believe two were the couriers and the third was bin Laden’s adult U.S. forces took photographs of the body, and officials used It was him. At 11:35 p.m., Obama stepped into the East Room and told the world: “Justice has been done.”
carrying Navy SEALs malfunctioned as it approached Osama bin Laden’s
compound at about 3:30 p.m. ET Sunday, stalling as it hovered. The pilot
set it down gently inside the walls, then couldn’t get it going again.
been monitoring the raid in the White House Situation Room since 1 p.m.,
surrounded by members of his war cabinet.
they didn’t know if they would have a ride home,” an official said.
then lifted off in a reinforcement craft just before 4:15 p.m., capping
an astounding 40 minutes that gave the United States a tectonic victory
in the 10-year war on terror touched off by 9/11.
military and intelligence triumph. Bin Laden was shot in the face by the
SEALs during a firefight after resisting capture.
Laden was in a lawless “no man’s land” on the Pakistani border, bin
Laden had been hiding in a three-story house in a one-acre compound in
Abbottabad, about 35 miles north of Islamabad, the Pakistani capital.
Officials describe it as a relatively affluent community, with lots of
residents who are retired military.
valued at about $1 million,” a senior U.S. official told POLITICO. “Many
of his foot soldiers are located in some of the remotest regions of
Pakistan and live in austere conditions. You’ve got to wonder if they’re
rethinking their respect for their dead leader. He obviously wasn’t
living as one of them.”
advanced intelligence work that included the National
Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), which specializes in imagery and
maps, and the National Security Agency (NSA), the “codemakers and
codebreakers” who can covertly watch and listen to conversations around
the world.
signed a memo to CIA Director Leon Panetta stating “in order to ensure
that we have expanded every effort, I direct you to provide me within 30
days a detailed operation plan for locating and bringing to justice”
bin Laden.
back to the Clinton administration, the U.S. discovered the compound by
following one of the terrorist’s personal couriers, identified by
terrorist detainees as one of the few al Qaeda couriers who bin Laden
trusted.
with and protecting bin Laden,” a senior administration official told
reporters on a midnight conference call. “Detainees gave us his nom de
guerre, or his nickname, and identified him as both a protégé of Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of September 11th, and a trusted
assistant of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the former number three of al Qaeda who
was captured in 2005.”
years to find him and track him back to this compound, which was
discovered in August 2010.
the outskirts of the town center, at the end of a narrow dirt road.
an official said on the call. “The main structure, a three-story
building, has few windows facing the outside of the compound. A terrace
on the third floor … has a seven-foot privacy wall. … [T]he property is
valued at approximately $1 million but has no telephone or Internet
service connected to it.”
said. “Internal wall sections — internal walls sectioned off different
portions of the compound to provide extra privacy. Access to the
compound is restricted by two security gates, and the residents of the
compound burn their trash, unlike their neighbors, who put the trash out
for collection.
POLITICO. “But he wanted proof. He didn’t want to just leave a pile of
rubble.”
sure not to kill civilians unnecessarily. So he ordered officials to
come up with an air-assault plan.
security principals, chaired by National Security Adviser Tom Donilon,
and their deputies, chaired by John Brennan, the president’s
counterterrorism adviser.
Council meetings on the topic, including ones on March 14, March 29,
April 12, April 19 and April 28.
meetings with his national security Principals,” a senior administration
official e-mailed reporters. “Principals met formally an additional
five times themselves; and their Deputies met 7 times. This was in
addition to countless briefings on the subject during the President’s
intelligence briefings; and frequent consultations between the [White
House National Security Council], CIA, [Defense Department] and Joint
Staff. The President was actively involved in reviewing all facets of
the operation.”
Situation Room, the president approved the air assault as the course of
action. He ordered the force to fly to the region to conduct it.
succeed Robert Gates as Defense Secretary, the president held another
meeting in the Situation Room, and went through everyone’s final
recommendations.
down to view tornado destruction in Alabama, Obama informed Donilon
that he was authorizing the operation. Also attending the meeting were
Brennan, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley and Deputy National
Security Adviser Denis McDonough.
strike team. Donilon convened a principals’ meeting at 3 p.m. to finish
the planning.
West Wing was due at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner.
But weather pushed it to Sunday.
national-security officials stayed in the Situation Room beginning at 1
p.m.
President met with the Principals to review final preparations. … 3:32pm
the President returned to the Sit Room for an additional briefing. …
3:50pm the President first learns that UBL was tentatively identified. …
7:01pm the President learns that there’s a ‘high probability’ the HVT
[high-value target] was [bin Laden]. … 8:30pm the President receives
further briefings.”
McDonough, Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Joint Chiefs of
Staff Chairman Mike Mullen, Director of National Intelligence James
Clapper, and others.
into a command center that gave him constant contact with the tactical
leaders of the strike team.
son,” an official said on the call. “There were several women and
children at the compound. One woman was killed when she was used as a
shield by a male combatant. Two other women were injured.”
facial-recognition technology to compare them with known pictures of bin
Laden.
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We learned about it back in 2008 when the President's Huge Stimulus Package was unveiled.
People were just jealous because Busch PWNED them with that move
I am afraid that all of these questions will get you a one way trip to the Ministry of Love.
Too many questions CD. You'll be getting a visit from the CIA station chief soon.
What ever happened to "trust but verify"? Oh, that's right. We only do it when the bad guys tell lies, not when the good guys tell lies.
I'll make sure to have tea and crumpets ready when the Seals visit me. Maybe I'll finally figure out that boxers/briefs thingy. :>)
Don't bother with taking a bath first, it is offered as a compliment.
i want to have sex with you.
Could be neither. Have you considered that they may be going "Commando"?
Dr. David Ray Griffin, a former professor at California's Claremont School of Theology and author of numerous books, suggests that bin Laden has been dead for nearly ten years. He argues that bin Laden died on December 13, 2001, of kidney failure or kidney related illness. There are records of bin Laden being treated in an American Hospital in Dubai for urinary infection, often related with kidney disease, and a related order for a mobile dialysis machine, essential to his survival. Griffin along with other doctors that he cites, states that it would be impossible for bin Laden to survive in a cave for an extended period of time with that machine.
It appears to me that Obama, being so low in the polls in his run up for re-election, has pulled this "story" out of a hat to improve his approval ratings. Nothing the US government does surprises me anymore, and I take anything they say with a huge grain of salt.
Oh, yeah, shot in the face and dumped at sea, no way of confirming anything they say, so they can say anything. I'm surprised Bush didn't think of this, or at least Chaney.
A free range OBL was beneficial to the Bush regime to keep the fear meme stoked. But by the time of the Obama regime OBL had outlived his usefulness as the scary boogie man. So the patsy is removed and the political capital harvested.
Next!
And when the time comes for the financial terrorists to be held accountable, we will see stories of how Lloyd, Jamie, Dick and Angelo were all shot in the face and dumped in the sea.
Well, cheney IS an expert at shooting people in the face. But you have to be drunk first.
I'm sober and i'm ready.
Well, cheney IS an expert at shooting people in the face.
Oh, wow, that's a thought. Maybe it was Cheney who was leading the raid????
Well, if a Theology Professor from Claremont says it, who am I to question? God indeed works in strange ways.
i wonder if greenspook sent flowers?
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/10/15/the-great-gold-conspiracy-and-911/
Speculating, they would have had a staging area close by in a remote place...maybe north of the lake, west of town (go to the map I posted this morning)...uninhabited, only about 2-3 miles outside of town...perfect spot for idling empty choppers if needed.
If so then why the drama in the story about the Seals carrying out the mission with no assurances they would be extracted if they knew other copters were nearby. And Shirley (sorry about that :>) helicopters gathering a few miles outside of town would have drawn interest.
The choppers could come down through the valleys and no one would hear or see them, there are no roads where I'm talking about...again, you need to look at the map.
As for drama, who knows...I ain't buying they dumped him at sea either...more than likely he was given to the Bin Hidin family...I believe their practice is they need to be buried within 24hrs. The cover story also dampens those who would go to grave to praise...or piss on it, as the case may be.
But of course, Shirley, you know by now what my preference is for his final resting place ;-)
I don't need no stinkin' map. :>)
What you say is entirely plausible. The entire point I was poorly making was that the Politico story is a propaganda piece released by a propaganda outlet. Facts and critical thinking are not welcome when the public is being programmed. Or is that probed? I always get them mixed up.
BTW I immediately confiscated your "Bin Hidin" reference (with a slight alteration so you can't say I stole it) and I already used it on WB7's latest posting without reference to your genius. It's mine know and you can't have it back.
"BTW I immediately confiscated your "Bin Hidin" reference (with a slight alteration so you can't say I stole it)..."
I saw that, but it's been around for a while, its not really mine...but I did owe him one for his permission to use..."Whut are you, some kinda Keynesian boy"...LOL...so maybe we're square.
I'm waitin to whip that puppy out on some unsuspecting fascist ;-)
he's dead, that's it. the guy is a phucking nobody and a pain in our ass. "now comes the real work."
Yup...dead as a doornail. For a very long time.
We've either seen a crass ratings building exercise for a failed President, or a window has opened up in which "proof" of our need for Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, TSA groping and FEMA can be prominently displayed. Spectacularly displayed. Undeniably even...
I watched the lead up, the interminable delays prior to the Messiah's announcement on CNN. The Wolf and all the other blitzers were transparent stage monkeys breathlessly hyping the whole history making, time marking "you'll always remember where you were and what you were doing on the day Bin Laden died..." complete with narrow angle shots of 75 teenagers with military hair cuts gathered in front of the White House, flags a waving long before any official announcement had been made.
One guest expert even went so far as to say this was the "end of terrorism". The attempt to portray this as a watershed event worthy of wild, unfettered celebration embraced by all Americans was so cheesy it made me want to puke.
That would fit the goal of a ratings pump, and I pray that's all it was.
But it would also fit the goal of attempting to pump the national psyche to heights that would make the fear response following a supposed retaliatory strike that much more effective in stampeding the man on the street into "understanding" how much danger we're all in if we don't just accept continued curtailment of our constitutional freedoms.
Maybe my tinfoil is screwed on too tight. Dunno. But, we shouldn't have long to wait. I imagine that emotional manipulation has a very short half-life and they'll need to lower the boom fairly quickly if some false flag is part of the plan. The next week or so should tell the tale.
Personally, I liked that scene in On Her Majesty's Secret Service where they go in in three black Hueys to attack the mountain chalet of the evil Blofeld (007 and the Union Corse toughs).
They should have handled it like that.
Squids?????
And that's the point, isn't it.
Since the public has been conditioned to believe by way of TV and movies that military operations are conducted in a certain way, they are now described in that way to reinforce all those decades of MSM programming.
Why waste an already brain washed mind?
First, one should not expect the MSM to get military operational details correct.
On a less critical mission, it is not uncommon for multiple support & reserve aircraft to be available. They may even be there simply to run interference or for a diversion. As for "reinforements", it could be a separate team of snipers and medics. Not necessesarily a full compliment, but in fact reinforcements.
So you have 1 heli with 1 team, a second heli with another team. Both land and disembark. There is at least 1 other heli with reinforcements (again, a few medics and snipers), but not fully loaded. And, you have at least 1 other heli, flying cover and empty except for the crew. In this case there were probably several helis simply flying cover (you would probably need at least 3 to provide 100% cover), and several others in reserve in a holding patters not more than a few minutes away. There would be more than enough spare & support resources to extract the entire team, even if both helis were disabled. That's simply how these things go down.
That's not to say your skepticism is unfounded, but rather misdirected. I'm not speaking of this operation specifically, but operations in general.
Then why say the Seal team went ahead with the mission without knowing if it would be extracted? While it could easily be a reporter's embellishment it sounds like something the reporter would be told and not make up.
With the focus around the damaged and ultimately destroyed helicopter wouldn't it make sense for the reporter to ask about additional aircraft? In fact he specifically mentioned just one other helicopter. Why not ask about three or four more. Why just one?
Which means this is simply unofficial propaganda from one of the premier unofficial propaganda outlets, Politico. It isn't meant to make sense or to pass anything other than a cursory examination at best.
[Which means this is simply unofficial propaganda...]---CD
Exactamundo.
There are an infinite number of human factors that go into these "news" stories. The deets are not so important as will be the reactions to the news.
EDIT
Example: I'm sure the initial news details of Archduke Ferdinand's assassination were conflicted. The reaction? Significant.
The Archduke bravely shields his wife from the assassin's rain of bullets by diving in front of her (or was it the other way round?) :>D
"Reporters are stupid."
LOL...says it all.
nm, actually it's much worse than that! ;-)
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/09/21/meet-the-press/
ORI
Well, yeah...complicitly stupid ;-)
Sorry for adding my 2 cent but I think you are playing to much call of duty or watching to much Hollywood war movies. I'm a retired cop and I agree with CD, to many inconsistency in the story that raises flags in my investigating mind.
AGAIN: "YOUR NOT GONNA SEE THIS GUY LEADING AN ISLAMIC ARMY." If we'd missed--what do you think the response would be? LOSING IS BIG HERE.
You are not reading an after-action report. You're reading a news article. I don't know about you, but in my experience, even local news stories have factual errors. You expect a story about a operation of international significance, published within hours of events, written by people with no knowledge of the subject matter, is going to be accurate? In the not-too-distant future, entire books will be written about this operation that will disagree about certain facts, figures, and details.
Okay, you're a retired cop. Did you ever bust someone, and read an article about the case or subsequent trial, and discover there were never, ever any factual errors or inconsistiecies? Was every article 100% correct and accurate? Using your super-slueth abilities, what do you think happened? Two teams went in on 2 helis, one crashed. Then what? The second team teleported back to base? Or the team from the downed heli took a cab back? Or they were left there? Or, there was 1 team and 2 helis, and one heli was crashed for effect? Or there were no teams but they decided to crash a heli there for fun?
ZH comments sections are full of complaints about how lousy the MSM is, how poor their coverage is, and how innaccurate their stories are, and now you're suprised that there are inconsistencies? The newspapers can't even get the box scores right, but this article should have been above reproach. Awesome reasoning.
I did not say skepticism was unwarranted. But it should not be directed toward whether or not there was a spare heli to extract the assault teams. This was not a clandestine operation. The guys were not going to be dropped off in some remote location and then extracted days or weeks later. They were going in and out, and there were contingencies.
is the use of a .50 sniper rifle likely in such a mission?
Not very likely, a hit to the face with near 10,000 foot pounds of .50 BMG kinetic energy at supersonic speed leaves only a red mist for forensic evidence.
No.
Probably 5.56X45 green tips...a .50 would have separated his head from his shoulders...he only lost 1/3 of what was left of his brains ;-)
The tail of the crashed helicopter looks like a Bell UH-1 Iroquois.
Crew: 1-4
Capacity: 3,880 lb - 14 troops
Empty weight: 5,215 lb
Gross weight: 9,040 lb
Max takeoff weight: 9,500 lb
I have no idea how special warfare outfits these things or what air base they operated out of. If their range was less than 100 miles, then the fuel savings might have helped some.
More random guesses from the bewildered herd.
So if they blew up the broken helicopter why doesn't that tail assembly look burned? And how does simply blowing up a helicopter destroy sensitive equipment? This usually refers to secure radio, radar, counter measures etc.
BTW that entire thread with the pictures of the compound has disappeared. Tyler is having server problems again.
edit: And the thread is back without the comments already posted.
I was a radio operator in Iraq and worked with ECM's (electronic counter measures). While I believe this is all BS, i can tell you there is a place on radios which when shot, destroy's any cryptographic material. ECM's also have an erase mechanism or "zeroize" button.
Thermite works well too.
So the burning was strictly for the propaganda effect. Can't have the 'enemy' climbing all over a semi-working piece of US military hardware now can we. They might hurt themselves and then sue the US for not placing enough warning labels on the damn weapon of mass destruction they left hanging around.
Saw a different photo - its a UH60.
Were the Seals wearing boxers or briefs
neither...SEALS don't wear underwear...unnecessary clothing.
Someone else informed me that Seals go 'commando" which confirms your observation. This is the only detail that makes sense. :>)
absolutely. just ask the girls.
There will be a retaliation strike against USA , something like a dirty bomb in Atlanta , this bomb will of been made at the Iranian nuclear power facility ( don't worry about the grade of uranium , details ) So that will give the pyschos, sheeple support to invade Iran . we steal the oil , Rothschild sets up a central bank , well that's how it is supposed to go.
Your plan sounds a bit dodgie, you know?
ORI
have no fear. "Big Ugly Fat Fuckers" lined up wing tip to wing tip. "We're thinking about it." Buddha sleeping.
... they all pile into the second helicopter that's already carrying the reinforcements?
There is an airfield about 35 miles away that the U.S. has been using for quite some time. The copters were likely launched from there. I'm sure they had backup craft at that airfield for just such a contingency. It wouldn't take long for an empty copter to fly 35 miles to pick up the guys when they were finished. So - probably a single copter initially. The guys did their job, called for a pickup copter, blew up the disabled copter, and got picked up by the empty rescue copter. Not likely that they wanted to signal their approach by sending lots of noisy machines together at the same time.
My point was simply that this so called "story' was inconsistent and flawed after just a cursory examination. So its purpose was not to convey 'information' but rather propaganda.
Our glorious soldiers encounter unexpected danger and equipment malfunction during their dangerous mission. They bravely push ahead anyway despite knowing if they will be rescued themselves and fulfill their mission, bringing back the head of that evil boogie man Osama.
Made for TV prime time drama.
While Osama's brainz met plaster, someone breaks off and "seizes" sensistive documents from the unlocked filing cabinet in Osama's 1st-floor office. The script practically writes itself...
[EDIT]...Do body bags have to be blessed by an Imam?
that is exactly the way it would have gone down. the cover support would have been enormous, the strike team very light. what surprised me, however, is they struck in afternoon without any diversionary tactic. Maybe that was the element of surprise?
This is all top secret information which will only be released 50 years from now.
I hate to think that there is some degree of competence in the USG (other than in the realm of conspiracy, of course, where they are omnipotent), but is it possible that the "reinforcement" heli came from past experience, as in the deserts of Iran during the failed hostage rescue?
http://www.youtube.com/profile?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_954992&user=propheticseerchannel
Fake picture?
Holy shit.
youtube took down that video. If you find it again, post it. Clear indication of photoshop.
EDIT*
heres another copy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uj3t0gsUDw
youtube absconded with it.... have another link?
clearly the united states is being run by incompetent fucktards when they cant even get a helicopter to work for the most important SEAL mission in history. only fucktards work for the government, bc they couldnt earn a living otherwise.
Maybe it was run by the same guy who ran the Iranian hostage rescue helicopter?
Ask Carter during the the late 70's to free the hostages, the copters failed due to the sand in the air. The mission was aborted.
they did not call Carter "Peanut" for nothing, you know? sending four helicopters into Tehran and hoping it would all work out ok, that's probably the dumbest thing any president has signed off on I know of. NOw Carter has learned and he gets his money from the Saudi royal family. Good boy, dhimmi carter
Oviously Charlie Sheen was in the Team
Complete Fucking Bollocks unless maybe Osama was a sailor in a previous life.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MlVm9FzM4
So they dumped him in the ocean before they could complete a DNA test? Why the fuck did they do that?
We've been hunting the SOB for a decade and all they are worried about is Islamic burial practices?
And what's with the goons galavanting around in front of the White House? The only thing missing was them slapping a statue with their sandals.
... So they dumped him in the ocean before they could complete a DNA test?
You perhaps know by now that the did do a DNA test. Used DNA from sister who died recently in a hospital in Boston for a confirmation match. You perhaps also know by now that they shot him in the eye to not mess up the face. They used facial recognition software to compare dead face with ealier pictures. The software claimed a match.
You can't do a DNA test in 12 hours.
We do not know what technology was being used. They have portable DNA kits now...
Also, technology is expensive and the very best is not yet available to use for ordinary criminals, but they are gettin close to it even in those instances... so be careful being so smug you "knowitall"
An example, they have done it in 4:
http://www.micronit.com/footer/news/publications/item/integrated-microfl...
double
I am trying to remember if Ken Lay was buried at sea also??
They didn't even bother with a cover up story...
Don't know, but I do remember that Robert Maxwell was...
DavidC
Save it for someone who cares
cops, soldiers, etc. = small genitalia
Not as brave as you "Star wars" bad asses.
Wouldn't have thought it, but I have to give Obama some credit here.
SEALS FTW
super easy capcha !
How the fuck did this offensive, Leni Reifenstahl propaganda piece wind up on ZH?!?
Fuck you, Mr. Allen--crawl back in your hole...
Leni would be insulted.
+1 Mr. Freeman.
Where did the page featuring the pictures of the compound go?
Zerohedge's compound in Westchester County has been raided by Navy SEALS.
Tyler was shot in the face, then his disfigured body was very quickly dumped in the East River.
Marla was killed only because Tyler was using her as a human shield.
Any subversive content on ZeroHedge is being replaced with puff pieces like this one.
It's a great day to buy a new GM with a loan from Allied!
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"[T]he property is valued at approximately $1 million but has no telephone or Internet service connected to it.”
Probably don't want the word out that there are tremendous opportunities to flip residential real estate in suburban Islamabad.
No, but a whacking great satellite dish.
DavidC
That wasn't no stinkin' DBS dish.
Is anybody still broadcasting porn and reruns of "I Dream of Jihad" on C band or was that thing for comms to the CIA?
That's a thought for the conspiracy crowd!
Trump just bought it, and has plans to build a memorial to Bin Laden and Al Qaeda there. Here are the just released, preliminary drawings of the twelve story monument:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IXzYC_rr_9k/S4btiq08Q9I/AAAAAAAAAUI/0Tm7P5EmHj...
The breathless languaging is beyond hilarious. And beyond sad.
This is clearly a whole new level of Schtick, to see how gullible folks are.
Judging by the cheering college-goers, very very gullible.
This is going to be a historical week in America. i can almost feel it.
Politico's other story about people needing to be more careful is equally funny/sad.
Weird world getting weirder by the minute.
ORi
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/the-sound-of-drums-antar-naad/
Those kids are probably extras hired for the day. I hope they're getting union scale. I haven't seen much in the line of rabid patriotism from the narcissistic and indifferent young around here.
wow, or it could have been "saved by the gov. shutdown".
how long before we can see all this in a movie theatre?
WTF happened to the thread with the pics of the compound?
Just what i was thinking.
We obviously hit a raw nerve.
It was there ,aaaaaannnnnnd, it s gone.
Regards
Ozzy
yeah, I just posted a comment regarding all the communications equipment installed in the compound then *Wham* thread gone...
You gotta go easy on the server next time. Too many IO operations makes it cranky.
A crashed military helicopter is seen near the hideout of Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden after a ground operation by US Special Forces in Abbottabad on May 2.
Maybe that's why the thread was pulled. May 2nd?
I thought the WH said its been a week?
I wouldn't be surprised if Tyler has been replaced.
Just by the reason of he writes to damn mucf for one person!
Check the memory hole. I think it's just about overflowing by now.
If you get the RSS feed to email pgm, the pics are still available there...
Still at this address...
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/pictures-bin-ladens-hideout-released
So "locating and bringing to justice" means shooting him in the face and dumping his body in the ocean? Why the need to shoot him in the face in the middle of the night. Also why did the pictures that were shown indicate that he still had a face? Somethings don't add up.
Not sure, but if they were expecting the targets to be wearing explosives, it makes sense to shoot for the head. The British SAS train that way for their hostage rescue missions, SEALs, too, probably. Instant incapacitation in close quarters.
As far as the dumping at sea part goes, how the fuck should I know? It makes no sense at all why they would do that.
Not that I know what somewhat looks like after they've been shot in the face but I would expect less face than what I see. Again, I'm no expert in face shots, that is unless you talk to my girlfriend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5-b7KKmCd4&feature=feedf
Shot through the eye (which is in the face) to preserve the face for use with Facial Recognition software. Matched ealier pictures of Bin Laden.
The main reason for dumping the body at sea (or at least claiming to) is that it provides no point of reference for reverence later by extremists. (that was fun).
Of course, they can probably bow in the direction of the Indian Ocean a few times a day if they want....
exactly, can you imagine if they kept the body? or buried it? It would be worse than John Lenon or that guy from the Doors
Buried at sea with a genuine American Football cradled in his arms...
Instead of cradling a pigskin, how bout wrapping his body in a pigskin?
bump plan-they ain't leaving no seals behind. bird that went down was first reported as an apache, a support bird
For anyone who cares. This appeared in the paper here.
http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/bild-von-totem-osama-ist-eine-faelschun...
And for those that can't read it.
Two Pakistani television channels this morning showed a picture of Osama'scorpse. As well as Pakistani security forces were involved in the operation inAbbottabad, the picture might well can somehow find its way into the net.But the picture is obviously a montage of two photos. Government officials havecompared to NBC News already confirmed that this is a fake, writes MSNBC.
Thus the picture circulating on the internet since 2010 - for example on this page.The first image of Osama Bin Laden is from Reuters - flipped horizontally, it wasfor the photo montage. The second picture shows a male corpse.
Photoshop by the beard and the mouth of Osama Bin Laden on the face of the unknown body was moved. Clearly visible is the falsification of the different skincolor of the two men as well as the uncertainty around the eye area.
Meanwhile, Pakistani broadcaster is granted, "Geo TV" also to be set against aforgery. After the error noticed during an inspection, the picture had been withdrawn.
White House still undecided
The U.S. government according to CNN has not yet decided whether to publishphotographs of dead terrorist masters. Was on the pictures to see that Bin Ladenhad suffered a gunshot wound to the head, so the station. He was easily identifiable on the scans.
The government has initiated a DNA test. Its outcome is certain soon. The photoevidence is so clear, however, that this would not have been necessary, as aCNN correspondent. (num)
Here's the real picture, just before his demise.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jeetJTfzUoU/TM956PQipDI/AAAAAAAAJ54/8LNMNmoEqK0/s1600/PamelaAnderson-Osama-club.jpg
Sadly the propaganda works... just look at the 'middle class' and youth of america assembling outside the white house and ground zero chanting 'USA, USA' like brain dead robots.
Unfortunately, it's the 'trailer trash' who have the sense to assemble guns, bullets and silver that can now be considered the intelligentsia class of america.
Will anyone mourn the passing of america?
It was like watching fatter and paler versions of people burning flags in the M.E , except rather than burn flags (mostly because the idiots outside the WH last night wouldnt have a fucking clue what flag they needed or what country it represented) they made cute bilboards and posters with spelling errors.
USA! USA!
Oh dear.
Take body and dump at sea? Here's one; what if they took the wrong body, broght it back to comand central, the general said, "YOU IDIOTS! YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY!" So then since the President already gave his speech, the decision was to dump the wrong body at sea?
You don't go through the trouble of collecting a body AFTER your helicopter is blown up and then dump it off a ship! What ship? What sea? How did they get the "body" out of landlocked Pakistan so fast?
Dude the entire story is BS. Dont try to make logic of any of it.
... You don't go through the trouble of collecting a body AFTER your helicopter is blown up and then dump it off a ship!
It was dropped from an airplane. Muslim protocol requires burial within 24 hours. U.S. says no country wanted the body. Muslim protocol says it's OK to dump into sea if no other alternative exists.
Yes, certainly a very Roman or perhaps Fascist Germany type of moment. So pathetic.
Anybody else think it's funny how fast the "spontaneous" demonstrations occured? Kind of like what happens by magic in the MENA...
by FunkyMonkeyBoy
on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:14
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Sadly the propaganda works... just look at the 'middle class' and youth of america assembling outside the white house and ground zero chanting 'USA, USA' like brain dead robots.
Unfortunately, it's the 'trailer trash' who have the sense to assemble guns, bullets and silver that can now be considered the intelligentsia class of america.
Will anyone mourn the passing of america?
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Considering your group did what? smoke pot and fight the man thru being stoned? should the working class / trailer park / Freedom Fighters feel slighted by you because of your contributions which lead to no change and no real threat of change?
The high brow wanna be relevant hug it out crowd has done nothing. Let me be really fucking clear. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
But you would be little any who would at least try. What would you have the working class, who have assembled do? How can they honor you in your likeness? “O” Great One, Regal us with your words, we wait on baited breath for the hot air to fall from your all knowing lips! Lift us up with your hot air, give us meaning, breath into us with your words.. life!
I would hope that some crazy find you and cut you fingers and tongue off and out respectively.. just to shut you the fuck up. Go out and do what you have always done.. NOTHING.
Used face recognition tech - after being shot in the face?
Body dumped at sea?
Its taken 10 years for this?
Something just does not add up! There is an odor in the air.
Is that some BS I smell?
A hoy mate, We've also learned that desert dewelling devoted Muslims long for the buiral at sea to fullfill their sacred religous rite.
OBL corpse pic photoshopped?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R3FOsqi6GE&feature=player_embedded
if this is the picture being offered? we are all just fucking way stupider than we already thought they thought we were.
Looks like when they photoshopped it they ran the "Just for Men" filter on his beard.
What a lot of crap!
Pass on another red herring will you and let's get back to some serious work like killing the Dollar.
LMAO
I wonder who'll have to be shot next to help Obama's poll numbers.
His opponents, like in any dictatorship, until it is his turn.
Kaddafi.
The US have Bin Liedons body,......aaaaaaaaannnnnd,it s gone.
Regards
Ozzy
+1 for the south park reference.
Anyone that believes this bullshit is an idiot. look at the photo. that aint bin laden. dumped at sea? dna evidence gone for good. welcome to your orwellian world.
Terror version: Shot in face (so the body cannot be recognized) and burried at sea (shot out a torpeado shoot)
Conspiracy version: Did a shot (to get totally blasterd) and died of liver failure (in the Four Seasons Riyadh)
One addition to the conspiracy version, he died of kidney failure in the loving arms of Rumsfeld & Cheney.
i'm sure he got top notch medical treatment too, perhaps paid for by our tax $.
http://prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_treated_us_hospital.html
btw i cant stand ziotard alex jones but good disinfo is 90% truth.
I agree.. there is some truth to what he shares.. but he does more damage by sharing that not.. he makes the good info seem bad and he wants the bad info to be good..
I think Alex is paid by the dis-info crowd.. I bet they keep him in business because he is a service to them.. his comerical air time rates are held high by the people he is trying to get too.
Cool story bro!!
blah blah blah *wave hand* blah blah *look serious* blah blah
"Now back to american idol you mugs"
What a fucking joke. The idiocy in the WH has gone parabolic.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/05/02/pair-films-usama-bin-laden-death-shoot-hollywood-priority-list-report-says/
for those of you who mentioned something about a movie...
Why did he not make any credible videos or statements in years? There is no way given his character that he'd just hide out in a Mansion's basement for several years and not make a peep about his cause. This whole thing is fishy. I'll bet he was aleady dead but unconfirmed and now they probably just killed his son or some lookalike and are using it as smoke and mirrors. What the hell, the markets needed a boost today.
Posted by David Kramer on May 2, 2011 05:42 AM
The LRC Blog -- The New York Times is reporting that Osama bin Laden’s body has been buried at sea. Huh????? Didn’t the U.S. government want to have plenty of pictures to show the sheeple of the world that, this time, bin Laden really, really, really is dead?
This brings back memories of how the government destroyed the Oklahoma City bombing debris, i.e., evidence. (Did the defense ever get a chance to send their experts to the debris site to determine what happened? Nah.)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/86984.html
Emmanuel Goldstein bin Laden - Posted by David Kramer on May 1, 2011 09:33 PM
The LRC Blog -- Now that the “leader” is dead, this is great news because the global terrorism network will fall apart and the U.S. government can immediately end all of its criminal actions wars in Asia, disband the Department of Homeland Security, the Transportation Security Administration, the pornoscanners, the…
None of the above is going to happen. You and I both know it. The entire Osama bin Laden/global terrorism scam is just another One World Government crowd creation financed by the OWG Banksters and carried out by the OWG crowd’s private enforcement arm (the CIA-Mossad-M5) to put more and more controls on the sheeple of the world to bring about a One World Government in order to “protect” us from these “global” terrorists.
As the forever war on “terror” continues even though the “leader” has been destroyed, we’ll see who the next ‘Emmanuel Goldstein’* will be. Unfortunately, this time I think that the OWG crowd will go after a real threat to the State—perhaps even someone like Lew Rockwell. I’ve always considered Lew and his spearheading of the dissemination of information on Austrian economics and a private law society the number one threat to the One World Government crowd (and a threat to the institution of government in general).
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*‘Emmanuel Goldstein’ was a “bogeyman” that was set up by the State in George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four to brainwash the sheeple into fearing a common “enemy” to hate (and, of course, be protected from by the State).
Friday - from Bill Daley's mouth to Jamie Dimon's ear... quite the rally
And the reason for the million dollar mansion psychological operation...
“Bin Laden was living in a relatively comfortable place: a compound valued at about $1 million,” a senior U.S. official told POLITICO. “Many of his foot soldiers are located in some of the remotest regions of Pakistan and live in austere conditions. You’ve got to wonder if they’re rethinking their respect for their dead leader. He obviously wasn’t living as one of them.”
...undermine the morale of those that heart OBL whilst hating on your freedumbs.
"And the reason for the million dollar mansion psychological operation... "
He stopped paying his mortgage and property taxes.
Standard Florida foreclosure procedure.
this entire story sounds like it is made up.
That's because it is.
Minitrue at work here.
What to do for an encore?
1. Find Hitler's body
2. Revitalize Hitler
3. Have the actual Hitler do some "Downfall" videos on YouTube. Display subtitle "This is the actual Hitler" to avoid confusion.
4. Buy Hitler a mansion in Beverly Hills
5. Have SEALS storm mansion and kill Hitler
6. Bury Hitler at sea.
7. Obama holds news conference: "I saved the world from Hitler"
Somebody ring Denzel's people and see if he is interested in playing Osama. What? Oh, wait, sorry - Obama.
There's an alternate version that ends something like this...
7. Hitler holds news conference: "I saved the world from Obama".
What, Birther Putsch? Got Horst Wessel?