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Poll: Most Americans Strongly Oppose U.S. Intervention in Arab Countries
The U.S. started mobiliziling forces in the Middle East/Northern Africa area during the Egyptian protests, and American forces have grown larger in response to Gaddafi's murderous attacks on his own people. And see this.
The Pakistan Observer reports today:
The
United States, Britain and France have sent several hundred “defence
advisors” to train and support the anti-Gadhafi forces in oil-rich
Eastern Libya where “rebels armed groups” have apparently taken over.According
to an exclusive report confirmed by a Libyan diplomat in the region
“the three Western states have landed their “special forces troops in
Cyrinacia and are now setting up their bases and training centres” to
reinforce the rebel forces who are resisting pro-Qaddafi forces in
several adjoining areas.A Libyan official who requested not to
be identified said that the U.S. and British military gurus were sent on
February 23 and 24 night through American and French warships and
small naval boats off Libyan ports of Benghazi and Tobruk.The
Western forces are reportedly preparing to set-up training bases for
local militias set-up by the rebel forces for an effective control of
the oil-rich region and counter any push by pro- Qaddafi forces from
Tripoli.Other reports claim that efforts to “neutralize” the
Libyan Air Force were also underway to limit Qaddafi’s rule in Tripoli
if not fully uprooted from the country.Meanwhile, three Indian Navy warships, are also being dispatched to be deployed in the rebel-held areas of Libya.
According
to reports the Indian Navy has already sent two warships plus one its
largest amphibious vessel INS Jalashwa. According to defence experts
“Jalshwa” is the largest ship of Indian Navy which was delivered by the
U.S. four years ago. Jalashwa, formaly the USS Trenton, has the
capability to embark, transport & land various elements of an
amphibious force & its equipped with mechanised landing craft, Sea
King helicopters & armed with raders, ship to air missiles &
rapid firing guns.Experts say that Indian ship Jalashwa has a
Landing Platform Dock with a capability 1000 fully armed troops. The
warship is also used for maritime surveillance, special operations,
search & rescue and to undertake other tasks.
But - as Rasmussen notes - Americans are strongly opposed to military or other types of intervention:
As
with the recent turmoil in Egypt, most Americans (67%) say the United
States should leave the situation in the Arab countries alone. Just 17%
say the United States should get more directly involved in the political
situation there, but another 17% are not sure.
If America invades Libya, the excuse will no doubt be that it is a
humanitarian mission to save the Libyan people from their insane,
genocidal leader. The U.S. said the same thing about Saddam Hussein
(who - like Gaddafi - was an insane, genocidal leader).
But remember that Alan Greenspan, John McCain, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, a high-level National Security Council officer and others all say that the Iraq war was really about oil.
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Oppose Intervention...
now... ask the question with this wording...
Help the un-armed People who are bing gunned down in the Street by mercenaries...
and guess what??? just by how the question is asked, the numbers.. for the same question.. flip flop...
Un-armed people? They are not unarmed. Al Qaeda fighters already control the East of the country. They have guns and shoot at anyone they perceive as a threat.
Check pictures, you see an armed militia.
I am the end of the world.
"Are you listening, Pentagon?"
Unfortunately, they probably are - echelon?? or some such thing......
Newa Flash: The Pentagon takes orders from the president and congress.
But, do THEY know that?
Yeah, the pentagon is listening... to the weapons suppliers.
Frankly, I cannot stomach watching this madman kill his people. Yes, I know that the U.S.'s hands are so bloody that nobody would believe that an effort to eradicate Gaddafi was not an effort to control Libyan oil. Simply put, the need to end this man's rule exceeds the U.S.'s need to look good. Take him out, NOW! Fix U.S. image over time.
"Are you listening, Pentagon?"
No
You have to ask if Washington, a wholly owned subsidiary of the ADL, Shoshana Cardin, and Isreal, is listening?
The Defense department (and many others) is a puppet of a minor government, well offshore.
Saddam buried Iraq's WMDs in Lybia's desert.
There, fixed it.
Poll: Most Americans strongly oppose Arabs.
Don't worry bout it GW...the SAS has already been there (and the Turks) and got their people the hell out of there.
We (more properly our brand new hopey changey bend-at-the-waist-in-chief), on the other hand, made our citizens wait on a dock listening to gunfire, then inside a rented ferry without food & water listening to gunfire, for days before setting taking off to Malta.
And they will recieve a bill for the great honor of having him as our "dear leader."
Don't sweat it...our troops wouldn't follow this guy to the flower store...no worries.
At some point, a very interesting day is coming down the line where that very premise will be tested.
Just like the sun rising everyday...a real test will come...and Barry won't be able to hit the snooze button at 3:00 A.M. like he's done all his life.
Libya and the ME ain't it my friend, we've always been fortunate in our enemies ;-)
70% of Americans DESPISED ObamaCare, but did we get it?.
These leeching bastards do not care what WE the people want. May as well shut up about it.
I doesn't matter what most Americans want. Most Americans oppose war in Iraq and Afghanistan, now. Most Americans don't count. If it benefits the corpulent corporations, and it does, then US intervention it is. American corporate interests. USA!USA!USA!USA!
I don't believe it. It's a Pakistani paper - most likely anti-US. Notice how he mentions US, France, Britain and ... India, one of Pakistans rivals/enemies?
You guys are so proud of your objective view of the US media - and yet unquestioningly believe some guy in Pakistan.
Doesn't make sense.
Poll: 2% of intelligent Americans believe in polls.
Problem is, only about 2% of Americans (or most other nations for that matter) are intelligent.
Whatever happened to that beloved leader of the country with oil reserves surpassing Libya's and producing only about 2 million barrels per day?
Oh, now I remember, shock and awe.
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GW,
I finally figured it out - you are Charlie Sheen!!!! I should have known when you denied OBL carrid out 9/11. You are a crackpot and shame on zerohedge for giving you a forum.
Bubba, you are a
Posting off-topic virtually 100% of the time.
I never said OBL wasn't involved. However, assuming you are a real person instead of one of these, here's something for you to read at your leisure:
Former FBI Translator: Bin Laden Worked for U.S. Right Up Until 9/11If you are still convinced that the government always tells the truth, sir, this may be why.
Broken record? From the hysterical poster who submitted no fewer than 20 gulf oil articles saying we were all gonna die?
Sabotaging the BP rig and then using easily manipulated liberals to take the gulf oil offline was all part of the NWO plan to cripple the US before taking down the arab states. GW plays right into the Soros agenda every time and as such is helping to enslave our counrty to global socialism. George Washington my ass.
Since I do not identify myself with either 'wing' of the same two-party bird, I do not see GW presenting the liberal wing theology, I see him honestly addressing American, no, human problems.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/government-and-big-business-are-gaming-social-media#comment-975799
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/government-and-big-business-are-gaming-social-media#comment-975855
Watch Out!!
Or GW will thunderhorse you in your Octogon!! It's a deaf mule every minute! Gaucho elsewhere.
Yet you believe that some guy in a cave halfway around the world orchestrated 9/11?
Crackpot indeed!
the libyans can handle their own affairs.....even though gadaffi is no better than a wall street bankster, he is not our problem....he is nothing but a pretext for the murderers in the pentagon to practice their craft....
1951: KOREA.
Various attempts are made at peace talks during the year. The danger of peace suddenly breaking out has the merchants of death and their shills on Wall Street all in a tizzy.
On March 26, the New York Times reports that "The possibility of peace talks on Korea interrupted Wall Street's recovery today and caused a fair sized setback."
On April 12, Business Week laments that "the possibility of a temporary truce haunts United States policy planners."
On May 20, that bastion of liberalism, the New York Times, says that "Sudden peace could work havoc with business."
Well, we can't be havin' none of that, so let's get bombing.
Gimme an F... What a great band.
To the shores of Tripoli...
Send the Marines!
For might makes right, until they've seen the light...
They've got to be protected, all their rights respected,
Till somebody We like can be elected ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHhZF66C1Dc
Great to know that "most Americans" are taking such an interest in military/foreign policy. Maybe we should replace the Joint Chiefs with Charlie Sheen, Snooki, Mel Gibson and Lindsey Lohan to make sure we hold their attention.
Yeah and? Why would they care?
The congress has a tiny approval rating as you point out. The people are not happy with much of what the gov does, but the system trudges on. The will of the people means nothing in our system. We get to choose between two identical choices, Coke or Pepsi, but it has to be Coke or Pepsi.
Why can't we all just get along?!?!?! huh, huh, huh
the parasites want your money, and to give you nothing for it... hardly a reasonable negotiating position is it?
What about all these wonderfully paved roads that you traverse? Or the dilligent and steadfast thin blue line that keeps the roiling, unwashed savages from escaping their vote farms in the inner cities and trailer parks and pillaging your suburb?
Have you no sense of gratitude?
Are you listening pentagon-LOL... No!
For National Security reasons, we must use up all of their oil before we resume our production.
They can't hear you man, not with 1.2T/ year plugging their ears: Christopher Hellman the Real Pentagon Budget: http://counterpunch.com/hellman03012011.html
GW,
I thought Obama was RFK!!!!!!!!!!
RFK worked for Joe McCarthy.
But, hell, there's a lot of info from that time that runs very much counter to the conventional wisdom now. The huge conclusion of the Army-McCarthy hearings was lawyer Joe Welch exasperatingly asking McCarthy if he at long last still had no honor because he mentioned that some guy working for Welch had been part of some group identified as a communist front group. But . . the guy had been outed as a member of that group a couple days before by . . The New York Times! McCarthy wasn't revealing anything. McCarthy was a dope but the misinformation about those days is kind of comical.
Remember poor blacklisted writer Dalton Trumbo? What a figure of complete sympathy, huh? Well, maybe not. In the recent book, The Anti-Communist Manifestos, they quote Trumbo cackling with glee that he and likeminded types in Hollywood have been able to keep one of the 4 books that's the subject of TACM's from being made into a movie. In effect, Dalton Trumbo is joyful at . . his own little blacklist of someone else.
Reality's a lot more complicated than romanticized history.
Alcoholic narcotics addict cum Senator Joseph McCarthy kicks off his own campaign of commie-under-the-bed scare-mongering and witch hunts in the land of the free with a speech in West Virginia in which he makes the patently ludicrous claim that there are "250 known Communists in the State Department".
Through systematic lies, distortion and blackmail, McCarthy will, over the coming years, play a major role in keeping the always useful Commie bogeyman alive as a tool to intimidate and render pliable the American public.
Alcoholic drug abuser cum Senator Joseph McCarthy
speaking to reporters while in his cups
The scare campaign infects every corner of America: the message is that Americans must be very afraid, Communists (Terrorist) lurk everywhere, waiting to steal all them great freedoms we got.
We must, however, remain happily oblivious to the fact that the likes of J. Edna Hoover and Joe McCarthy have already stolen them.
The mass media, as always, provide the bulk of the brainwashing, cleverly maintaining the fear level.
National magazines run articles such as How Communists Get That Way and, my particular favorite, Communists Are After Your Child.
The "liberal" New York Times in 1956 runs an editorial which states, "We would not knowingly employ a Communist party member in the news or editorial departments....because we would not trust his ability to report the news objectively or to comment on it honestly."
Sounds like the ideal New York Times reporter.
The McCarran Internal Security Act sails through the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate.
The Act authorizes government investigation of supposed "communist" action, "communist" front and "communist infiltrated" organizations in the land of the free.
The bill requires that "suspect" groups in the greatest democracy the world has ever known must be registered with a Subversive Activities Control Board, which will, without due process, deny their members travel rights, the right to work in so-called "defense" plants, and the right to hold a government job.
What a relief it is not to live in a repressive Commie dictatorship.
The Act mandates that foreign-born American citizens are subject to deportation and that recently-naturalized citizens are subject to having their citizenship taken away.
Failure to register with the Gestapo, sorry, the government, will bring a $10,000 fine and five years in jail for each day of non-compliance. All information disseminated by targeted groups must carry the warning: "Disseminated by a Communist organization".
Among the tireless defenders of democracy, freedom and liberty who vote for bill are John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson and their brother-in-arms, Nazi war criminal escape facilitator, Richard "I Am Not A Crook" Nixon.
Rather than defending the rights of Americans by opposing the anti-democratic and unconstitutional measures, what are laughably called "liberals" in the U.S. including Hubert Humphrey, almost wet themselves in their zeal to prove themselves "tough on communism".
They propose a substitute measure by which the U.S. government would establish concentration (FEMA) camps in which Homeland (Security) inmates suspected of being "subversives" would be held without trial or due process any time the regime du jour declares an "internal security emergency".
The concentration camp measure is incorporated into the Internal Security Act and the camps are, in fact, established in the land of the free, ready for use.
What Americans want is irrelevant. If we don't want the right things the elite will bombard us with propaganda until we do want the right things.
Most Americans do not know what they want until they are obediently told by their masters, via the corporate-controlled media, what they want. Most Americans do not know what to believe until they are told by their masters, via the corporate-controlled media, what to believe.
As proof, I give you Fox News (sic) --- e.g., "Ron Paul is NOT the presidential candidate you are looking for". They are not by any means the only such example, but certainly the most egregious.
exactly. "send in Time Warner." what was it in '98? (1898 fer all you first timers) "you furnish the pictures, i'll furnish the war." Now it's "just hand it over...we'll fix that one for ya, too."
1898:
Yellow media mogul and Nazi mouthpiece-to-be William Randolph Hearst and yellow media tycoon Joseph Pulizter engage in a contest to see which man can reduce American journalistic standards to the lowest possible level.
A mixture of exaggeration, outright lies and fabrications, jingoistic nonsense, xenophobia and sensationalism, so-called "yellow journalism", apparently sells newspapers in the U.S. and Hearst and Pulitzer strive to outdo each other in their race to the sewers.
The two newspaper barons play the major role in "manufacturing consent" by manipulating the U.S. public before and during the long-planned war which led to the U.S. invasions of Cuba, the Philippines, Guam and Puerto Rico.
In disneyland America, Pulitzer, who plumbed the depths of sleazy and dishonest publishing, will ultimately be remembered only for the Pulitzer Prize, ironically intended as a recognition of quality journalism.
In the midst of countless hostile actions, the destruction of the Cuban economy and an ongoing, vitriolic propaganda campaign by the U.S. against Spain, the USS Maine enters Havana Harbor on the patently absurd pretext of it being, in the words of the grotesque U.S. consul in Havana, a “friendly act of courtesy”.
The secondary pretext, of protecting Americans in Cuba, is equally absurd as Frederic Remington pointed out.
Remington, an illustrator for the Hearst newspapers, the key element in the propaganda campaign preparing the U.S. public for the long-planned U.S. invasion of Cuba, sends a cable to Hearst telling him that, contrary to the hysterical tales being invented and carried in the Hearst papers, “all is quiet” in Cuba and asks for permission to return to the U.S.
Hearst sends Remington a cable saying,
“Please remain. You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war.”
On cue and as though by magic, the USS Maine oh-so-conveniently blows up in Havana Harbor, resulting in the death of two hundred and sixty six U.S. sailors. By a fabulous stroke of luck, of the two hundred and sixty six corpses, only two belong to officers and to junior officers at that. Enlisted men were barred from going ashore. Officers were not.By another fabulous stroke of luck, the U.S. has, since 1894, been beavering away planning for a full scale war against Spain and the seizure of Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines.
The blowing up of the WTC on 9/11... opps... sorry... my bad...the USS Maine is the starting whistle.
Joseph Goebbels and Adolph Hitler had some great tutors.
I didn't learn most of that in skool so it must not be true.
LOL, sooo trew..
1917-1918:
Woodrow Wilson just got himself elected president with the slogan "He Kept Us Out of the War" but, you know how it is, people change their minds.
Now that the British, French and Germans have just about bankrupted themselves in the Great War, it seems that it will be more profitable for the ruling class to get the U.S. into the closing act as a combatant nation rather than as just a weapons supplier.
They will then have a role in divvying up the spoils and writing the script for the future.
On April 2nd, Wilson, no mean hand at bullshit, tells Congress that "the world must be made safe for democracy", allies himself with a series of unelected monarchies and then sets about destroying whatever vestiges of true democracy actually exist in the United States.
The poor working stiffs in the U.S. aren't too happy about the whole thing but a few people are rubbing their manicured hands with glee.
The fabulously-named Carnegie Endowment for International Peace telegraphs Wilson and encourages him to "see that the war (does) not end too quickly."
And no wonder. In 1916 alone, the Carnegies' United States Steel made more than $348 million in war profits, an almost-unimaginable sum at the time.
For the U.S. ruling class, entering the Great War as a combatant nation has another wonderfully beneficial effect: the growing labor movement led by the Industrial Workers of the World and the pressure by workers for a slightly fairer share of the U.S. economic pie is nicely, some would say permanently, sabotaged.
Now, the enemy of ordinary Americans will not be the robber barons and their pimps in government, the military and the police, but the evil Hun, the Kaiser and all things German. Young men will not be manning picket lines and protesting the depradations of the ruling class, they will, instead, be safely conscripted and subject to military law.