Possible New Oil Spill 100 By 10 Miles Reported in Gulf Of Mexico (Update: Spill Photos)

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Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:00 | 1078068 RichardP
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... the Rapture (which ain't in the Bible ...)

A rose by any other name is still a rose?

There is a description of both the dead and the living being caught up to meet him in the air.  An event is described, even though the name isn't used to label it.

For those who might not know.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 05:28 | 1078158 d_senti
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That line (1 Thess. 4:15-17) specifically mentions at the sounding of the trumpet, the dead then rising, and THEN ascending into the air to meet with Christ. A quick glance at Revelations shows that the sounding of the trumpet with the Resurrection happens at the Final Judgment, not before Antichrist.

So...no rapture. Sorry. It's a totally novel idea that no Christian believed until the last 2 centuries or so. You can believe what you want, of course, but the previous poster was right; there's no biblical basis for the belief.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 08:59 | 1078325 bigargon
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i have to agree as, a christian, there is little biblical support for a pre-tribulation rapture.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 10:21 | 1078502 quasimodo
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Yes, it seems the pre-trib arguement is a pacifier for many. I am a confessing Christian, but it seems hypocritical to say that we are all spared the doom described in Revelation. It makes it way to easy and comfortable.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:37 | 1079081 snowball777
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I have to agree, as an atheist, that time spent analyzing an incomplete and oft-mistranslated canon is both futile and laughable in the extreme.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 14:21 | 1079193 Creed
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100% correct since you are devoid of spiritual understanding the time would be wasted, for you by snowball777
on Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:37
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I have to agree, as an atheist, that time spent analyzing an incomplete and oft-mistranslated canon is both futile and laughable in the extreme.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 15:12 | 1079297 snowball777
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You mistake me for the son who merely inherited 'a field with treasure buried in it'; don't you know the 'last shall be first'?

If you have such great 'spiritual understanding', why do you need a book to tell you again?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 15:27 | 1079331 Creed
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"these words are spirit, and they are life"

the book brings spirit to the empty

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 16:20 | 1079422 snowball777
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"The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the spirit"

(again...those pesky translations...)

“This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 14:32 | 1079218 Creed
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Probably 80% of those professing to be Christians today, aren't.

Christian means Christ-in.

So it's no huge surprise that the details escape the attention of those without the capacity to see.

Christ touches down twice in the end times.

 

 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 07:03 | 1081007 d_senti
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That's not true either, actually. Millenarianism is a recently popular belief as well; a minority of Church Fathers professed it in the first centuries, but the view was widely rejected until the 20th c. Not to mention it doesn't make any sense, really.

But I'm guessing most people here aren't looking for religious debate, so I'll bow out now.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:14 | 1083006 silverman
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"Any god that requires small minded bigots to speak for it is not worth the breath it takes to pray." ~ Jesper Myrfors

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:27 | 1079050 Big Sky
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Ian Fleming's story lines and plots pale in comparison to the string of events that are currently unfolding, but his characters are more appealing. Auric Goldfinger is so much more charasmatic than Gaddafi, Tony Hayward/Robert Dudley lack Dominic Greene's flair, Blythe Masters could learn a thing or two from Octopussy, Dr. No would never shed tears as Akio Komori has done and Benny B appear as a rank amateur compared to Ernst Blofeld. Too bad we cannot expect a pleasant resolution to the end of the quandry we all find ourselves in.  

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 00:25 | 1077735 SparkyvonBellagio
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( BUGS )  .0016 check into this oil clean-up play before it catches on again during Hurricane Season.

 

 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 00:27 | 1077740 Manthong
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End of Days.

I wonder if I can swap a hundred pounds of Ag for eternal salvation?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 01:12 | 1077866 MayIMommaDogFac...
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...and all your money would, another minute, buy...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 01:19 | 1077896 ZakuKommander
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End of Days?  That was really one of Ahnold's worst movies, wasn't it?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 02:06 | 1078004 Agent P
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Ever see Last Action Hero?  Raw Deal?  Junior?  Eraser?  Whatever Batman movie it was where he played Mr. Freeze?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 02:33 | 1078043 HarryHaller
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Don't forget Kindergarten Cop.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 11:27 | 1078741 PenchantForHoarding
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It's not a toomah!

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:58 | 1078109 Hacked Economy
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Twins.

And his 7-year performance as our (now former) Governator.

Good riddance.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 04:55 | 1078139 jesse livermoore
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I think eveyone is forgetting about...." Drumroll Please "........  Over The Top..... not surprising, it was an utterly forgetable movie........

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 06:57 | 1078190 writingsonthewall
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Wasn't that Stallone?

Arnie's best movie was Conan the Barbarian - and it was all downhill from there....

 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 07:25 | 1078212 Rodent Freikorps
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Red Sonja was the worst. No competition.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 09:07 | 1078347 spanish inquisition
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I liked Total Recall, PKD fan here.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 10:08 | 1078466 Spastica Rex
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I'm pretty sure you are supposed to refer to yourself as a "Dickhead."

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 11:11 | 1078671 spanish inquisition
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+1 slack to you sir

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 09:32 | 1078396 bubbahotep
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Over the Top - that was phony Thylvester ("I grew up in Hell's Kitchen!") Stallone. Another sociopath on the loose.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 10:20 | 1078497 -Michelle-
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Aw, I kind of liked Junior.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 11:09 | 1078668 Agent P
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Just for you, I'll remove it from my list and replace it with the second Conan (the one with Grace Jones).

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 12:43 | 1078962 jmc8888
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Nah that one is a classic.

It's one of those, 'it's so bad, it's good.'  Especially with age.

It's even got Wilt "used the stilt on 10,000" Chamberlain.

They don't make them like this anymore boys and girls.

 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 12:51 | 1078977 wisefool
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There are some good attempts though. I watched a made for T.V. movie on syfy called area 51. premeried feb 23.  It captured the "man... this is so bad it is good" or the "This is actually pretty decent but my brain wants to think it is bad"

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 07:08 | 1078199 Gully Foyle
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Uh hum, Hercules in New York. They had to dub a voice for Arnold.

And this gem

The Villain   Handsome Stranger

 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:05 | 1078069 RichardP
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I wonder if I can swap a hundred pounds of Ag for eternal salvation?

That worked for Judas, right?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 05:50 | 1078165 rich_wicks
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I wonder if I can swap a hundred pounds of Ag for eternal salvation?

Why do you want to end up in the same place ruled by the thing that killed every man, woman, child, fetus, kitten and puppy in the world (well, except for 2 of each "kind") in of a menical fit of rage?  Isn't this the same dude that was omnipotent and omnisicient who still decided to setup the universe in such a way that he made the rules so that his only son had to be tortured to death on a crucifix to show his psychopathic insane love of humanity?

I'll see you in Hell, at least Lucifer didn't do anything like kill the world, or even his son.  Seems like the worst he did was tempt Jesus instead of explaining to him that his dad was a freaking nutcase.

When I stop to think about it, I think Lucifer sat down, realized his boss was freaking bonkers, and quit.  God never seemed like a very nice guy.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 07:07 | 1078198 duncecap rack
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Now he could just use Wikileaks.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 07:08 | 1078201 Gully Foyle
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rich_wicks

Pick up the Sandman Slim books you may enjoy them.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 09:52 | 1078436 pazmaker
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Debated whether I should respond to someone who has such a warped understanding  but I think you got the two confused(God and Lucifer)....anyway have at it.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 12:32 | 1078930 Seer
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I hit "tilt" at the point that Jesus Christ is "lord."  Creation killed Creation? (suicide, though suicide is condemned?)

Lots of great parables to live by, but the literal is for the crazies...

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 12:00 | 1078848 falak pema
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Just ring up Rodrigo Borgia's ghost and ask for an indulgence...Not the kind that allows you access to his daughter Lucreza...the other kind...towards pearly gates...

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1079134 snowball777
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I wonder if I can swap a hundred pounds of Ag for eternal salvation?

 

Asked and answered...repeatedly...

Acts 8:20

Isaiah 1:22

Isaiah 30:22

James 5:3

Peter 1:18

Revelation 9:20

 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 00:49 | 1077803 T-NUTZ
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Texas Tea BITCHEZ!!

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:37 | 1078092 e_goldstein
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corexit, bitchez.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 01:41 | 1077950 Fernley Girl
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Nope.  No coinkydink.  Oil war in the ME, oil leak in the Gulf, while these guys are in Brazil....doing what? 

U.S. CEOs IN BRAZIL WITH OBAMA

JEFFREY R. IMMELT - CEO, GENERAL ELECTRIC

ARIS CANDRIS - CEO, WESTINGHOUSE

JAMES T. HACKETT – CEO, ANADARKO PETROLEUM CORP

JOHN V. FARACI – CEO, INTERNATIONAL PAPER

ANTHONY S. HARRINGTON – CEO, ALBRIGHT STONEBRIDGE GROUP

http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=48881

Two nuclear power co's, an oil exlporation group, and good ole Clinton cohort Madeline Albright.  Not sure about IP, unless they just want to saw off all of Brazil's remaing timber.  And then GE's media groups can keep a lid on the truth, of course.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:27 | 1078089 M4570D0N
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Japan will need a lot of timber to rebuild.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 11:55 | 1078825 Ruffcut
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Alex Jones exposed some of the Bohemian Grove, so they changed the venue.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 01:49 | 1077968 reader2010
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Why all the fuck comes up on weekends only? Seriously.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 06:08 | 1078169 mophead
Sun, 03/20/2011 - 08:45 | 1078299 barkingbill
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well if the plan were to raise oil prices....everything, i mean everything is happening to do this......middle east unrest/invasions, nuclear plant disaster, and now another oil spill. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 08:52 | 1078316 Gully Foyle
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NOTW777

Remember how FEMA was in NYC just before 911?

 

http://www.dailypaul.com/155513/fema-purchases-for-new-madrid-drill

fema purchases for new madrid drill!

 

huge fema drill april 28 for new madrid fault
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