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Power Blackouts And Water Shortages Threaten Florida
Some bad news for our Tampa Bay/Mons Venus-based (yes, they do have WiFi) readers: globalresearch.ca notes that Florida "faces severe fresh water shortages and power blackouts if the thick crude oil from the Deepwater Horizon disaster clogs sea water intakes at the largest seawater desalinisation plant in the United States -- the Tampa Bay Seawater Desalinisation Plant at Apollo Beach in Tampa, Florida." And some even worse news for America's purported democratic/free speech regime: "The Obama administration has taken a page from the government of Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and Chernobyl in censoring the bad news from the Gulf oil mega-disaster. The Chernobyl cover-up largely resulted in the hastening of glasnost and the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union."
From Globalresearch.ca
nformed emergency planning sources in Florida have informed WMR that the state faces severe fresh water shortages and power blackouts if the thick crude oil from the Deepwater Horizon disaster clogs sea water intakes at the largest seawater desalinisation plant in the United States -- the Tampa Bay Seawater Desalinisation Plant at Apollo Beach in Tampa, Florida.
The plant, which uses seawater reverse osmosis to turn seawater into 16 to 19 million gallons of drinking water daily for residents of the Tampa Bay area, faces the threat of filtration membranes becoming clogged if oil from the Gulf of Mexico enters its intake pipes. Such an event would render the plant unable to process seawater, resulting in a major fresh water shortage for the Tampa Bay.
Similarly, oil clogging the water cooling intakes at the Crystal River Nuclear Power Plant on the Gulf of Mexico coast, some 80 miles north of Tampa, could force the shutdown of the Unit 3 pressurized water nuclear reactor. Such an event would result in power shutdowns in the Florida areas served by the power plant.
The Obama administration has taken a page from the government of Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and Chernobyl in censoring the bad news from the Gulf oil mega-disaster. The Chernobyl cover-up largely resulted in the hastening of glasnost and the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union.
All that is needed is the US government to now take charge of this fiasco. Unfortunately, it appears this will happen quite soon.
h/t John
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This is the right thing to do to preserve the regime.
Just like the '60s in Mexico, Gov controlled the paper production thus the papers could not write anything bad about the regime, they often slain leftish or liberal reporters too.
Ooops.... Sorry Tyler, you better buy those nice Kevlar suits they sell in Israel.
Hmmm....if you all want some news...just turn on the radio. I've been listening to ham radio operators exchange information. Check out 14.150 through 14.350 Mhz. (Decent outdoor antenna - should be able to hear up to 1000 miles away.) You'll get some first hand gossip. For those of you within 10 to 200 miles (with a good outside antenna for reception) can listen to the commercial maritime frequencies. Scan from 156.00 mhz up to 158 mhz. Also check out 161 - 162 mhz.
Don't have a radio that can pick up HF, SSB, UHF or VHF? I recommend you buy one right after you fill your pantry with food.
Capital idea. Recommend any particular model(s)?
why am i not surprised that kenyan born indonesian citizen soetoro is censoring news? on the one hand it is sad to see the usa having become a totalitarian state but on the other this means that its demise is within view.....i rejoice at the fall of this monsterous experiment in fascism....
www.obamacrimes.com
I'm intrigued by the conversation here. How do you think the activity in the gulf would have changed over the past two months if everyone in the U.S. a) knew every single detail about what was going on there, or; b) knew nothing at all about what is going on there?
Fixing the problem in the gulf is not within the sphere of influence that any of us wield. So how does us knowing everything, or knowing nothing, affect the final outcome? It will get taken care of whether we know what is going on or not. And if the gulf situation is not taken care of, and you are made aware of that fact, what can you do / what will you do to fix the gulf situation?
Bottom line, what positive outcomes re. the gulf fix accrue from any of us knowing anything about what is going on in the gulf? None. On the other hand, what negative outcomes might accrue if large numbers of people panic based on incorrect information and rumor? At a minimum, folks could tank the market value of BP if they knew the true extent of the situation. How would that help the U.S. recover damages from BP?
One of the functions of government is to keep the peace. Controlling information flow is one of the ways of keeping the peace. There are many things about which we may have a desire to know, but we don't have a need to know. Those who have a need to know what is going on in the gulf (municipal leaders of the gulf states) are in the information loop. At least that is what the fine print says.
I understand that there must be checks and balances on the government's control of information. But that is a topic for a different conversation. I'm simply asking how the situation in the gulf would change if all Americans knew everything, or knew nothing? I think it would not change at all and so am amused at the indignation that things are being kept from us. We aren't part of the problem, and we can't be part of the solution. So the best we can do is get out of the way.
I used to speak zee very same vay in Berlin in 33'. Der shortened version of your first namen sums it all up. Ciao.
That creates an interesting mental image that nobody has every presented to me before: dickpee??
"I understand that there must be checks and balances on the government's control of information."
What?
"I'm simply asking how the situation in the gulf would change if all Americans knew everything, or knew nothing? I think it would not change at all and so am amused at the indignation that things are being kept from us. We aren't part of the problem, and we can't be part of the solution. So the best we can do is get out of the way."
Is this a joke post? I'd expect this type of mentality from a North Korean. I wonder how this type of advice would have worked for the Cambodians in 1975, the Armenians in 1915, the Russian farmers in the 30's, the jews and gypsies in Europe during the 30's and 40's, oh...the list is so long.
Yeah, you just revel in being left in the dark.
No - my question was intended to trigger some serious thinking. How does us being flooded with light, or being left totally in the dark, change the outcome in the gulf? Refering us to North Korea or Cambodia does not help us answer the question. Stick to the topic at hand.
Note what you quoted of what I said: if we aren't part of the solution, how does flailing about accomplish anything? If flailing about would accomplish something, that would mean we were part of the solution.
Dickpee,
I can only speak for myself, of course, but I acquire as much info as possible from every source available not for acquisition alone but call it Situational Awareness. When the feces is heading towards the fan one must be as nimble as possible to avoid the spray. No telling where the germ of truth lies in wait, so one is forced to excessive due diligence. Not easy, not really fun, just prudent.
I agree. But my question remains. How does the Federal (not State) government keeping us ignorant change the outcome in the gulf? As far as I can tell, it doesn't. I'm continuing to sift for information like everyone else. But I am not bashing the Feds because they don't tell us everything they know as soon as they learn it.
I suppose the american public has no need to know the balance sheet of the Fed as well.
Stick to the subject.
Richard, I have family there. You tell us all there is nothing to be done about it, tell us the toxic effects, and I can talk my family into getting out of there NOW. I start preparing very differently than if I think it is for the smaller number I am currently prepped for. If they stay there and get ill and then need to leave, it is that much harder for me to bring them in and for them to exit well.
I get that. Do you get me? I asked, if we can't be part of the solution, then what difference does it make whether we know everything or nothing. You are not part of that group who aren't part of the solution as you are obviously going to be part of someone's solution if they need it.
I would like to think that you are getting more correct information from your family there re. their need to maybe evacuate than you are getting from the ethernet.
Not to be redundent, the point is there is no solution. Entropy Rules.
Trust in word breeds trust in deed, and prevents sceptic-shock syndrome.
They just can't catch a break.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahYi1ELsOCJo
Anecdotal info from one that lives on the East Coast of Fl. When wind is blowing strongly from the west or northwest we can smell oil or a (hard to describe) chemical odor.
When wind shifts to East, NE or SE, odor goes away. We are about 160 miles from West Coast and somewhat above Tampa.
I would guess that the odor on the West Coast is noticeable but I am not going over there to find out.
We have already taken the precaution to fill all available water containters but that is something we do each year as hurricane season approaches.
The outflow was unreal.
New Florida Tourism ad - Free suntan oil on the beach - bitches!
Get ready for a drop in the unemployment numbers as the Federal Agencies block the use of volunteers to clean up the beaches in Florida.
“Volunteers are not going to be involved in picking up the tar balls," said Carl Espinosa. director of Miami-Dade County’s Department of Environmental Resource Management. "That is going to be contract people and or people who are trained and who have the proper equipment and protection to do that."
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Miami-Dade-plan-for-oil-disaster...
How is that going to work when Miami declares Chapter 11?
Proper equipment would no doubt include union cards.
"Proper equipment would no doubt include union cards."
Not in Florida...this is one of the many 'right to work' states...excepting all the public unions; ie, cops, firefighters, teachers, goverment employees, ad infinum...but if you happen to be an electrician, plumber, carpenter, heavy equipment operator, etc, you have a right to work peanuts.
I live in Tampa. The desal plant is located way up inside
the bay and away from the reaches of the oil spill. It is a minor contributor to the water needs of the area.
This report is unmitigated bullshit propaganda.
Safety Harbor is "way up inside the bay"...Ruskin is not. I remember when they were talking about building it...the brine put back into the bay would have killed the area so they needed an area that was free flowing so it would mix back in with the gulf on the tide.
I'm callin bullshit on a "Floridian"...deal with it.
The sick thing is that I read a small article from the water treatment plant and it said that the plant will be reliable and such and that they will take measures that will stop the oil from getting into the system. What isn't being discussed and they are talking about is the oil under the water thats been broken down into smaller droplets that are floating in massive clouds of oil AND DISPERSANT. They are watching for the oil, but what happens when these droplets and dispersants get into the system because the water looks clear from the top.
Thats the doomsday situation for them.
http://www.tampabaywater.org/facilities/desalination_plant/oil_spill_update.aspx
I'll be honest with everyone, I think we are in the first inning of a baseball game that will go into extra in regard to this oil and the problems it will cause. Where in trouble.
The water for Pinellas county (St.Pete. the city) comes from Pasco county (aquifer)...which pisses off some folks I know there as their cypress heads are affected.
Tampa (the city) used to get the bulk of it's water from the Hillsborough River (tastes like crap) which flows from a swamp, it seems when the article says "Tampa Bay area" it's factually correct, but can be misconstrued.
The plant augments other sources (for Tampa proper) by 10% according to this;
http://www.environmentalleader.com/2010/03/03/tampa-bay-desal-plant-gets...
I would not call losing 10% of Tampa's potable water supply when you have the water police (no I'm not kidding) scouring neighborhoods at 2:00 A.M. looking for people watering their lawns illegally and writing tickets (an odd/even address day system is in place last I heard) as a "small amount" or why have the water police enforcement?
It is a big deal. If you are interested there is an old plantation south of Palmetto where you can see how they collected rainwater in cisterns back in the day because of saltwater intrusion in the wells. Coastal living had/has it's drawbacks.
SeeYa
Even/odd watering days were the norm when I was a kid. And you had to water in the evening. Sometimes they banned it, period. My grandmother did not water at all because she said the grass had to adapt to how conditions really were and grow deeper roots to be stronger. That was my Granny in a nutshell, lived through the depression.
"Even/odd watering days were the norm when I was a kid."
Your making me feel REALLY old...LOL.
They were starting to implement it is when I moved from the burg. I had a shallow well I used for irrigation...dug the sprinkler system and sank four wells in-line to feed it...they still bombarded me with propaganda. The Times (Pravda West) was no friend to property rights or any other "individual rights" for that matter.
Another thought on the Hurricane...I believe it lost alot of it's appeal because it was so successful. At one time (the original little bitty place) was a place where boat captains, bikers, hippies, beach bums etc. could come and get a beer shoot some pool, get something to eat...a really cool place.
No airs...no pretence...hell even "street urchins" could find someone to buy them a beer or something to eat when they really needed it...but they knew it was charity and didn't push. Then of course "the world" found out about it and parents with screaming kids in tow were there...the salty language and the colorful people were asked to tone it down...it became something else...which is life I guess.
The guy busted his ass and made it...monetarily...but the two or three story thing is not what I remember...I'm glad for him and there is always another "Hurricane" similar to seek out...they are never in the tourisma brochures ;-)
*Whispers* "Anoxic Event" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoxic_event)
Sorry, last time for a while, or until the thing erodes and pops, which ever comes first. It was just such a light on for me that I had to share it more than once...plus it leads people to study geology, which helps there understanding of time, which, I think, is good for everyone. That and transparency.
Heavy,
If you wish to read a now rather topical novel of anoxic events you may want to try "Last Gasp" by Trevor Hoyle. Written in 1980 I believe, but he appears downright prescient. Amazon for a penny used. Pay particular attention to page 237.
Thank you, I'll add it to the next order now...need to stop reading the zombie novels anyhow.