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PPT Stuck In Line To Purchase iTimberrrrr App For iPhone 4
The sudden and dramatic absence of the Liberty 33 folks can only be explained by their realization that there's an app for market crashes. Alas, they have to wait in line like every other Steve Jobs fanatic. That's the only explanation one can come up with to explain why the market is plunging. Nothing else that makes sense: the economy is flourishing, Europe is hella strong, China is growing like a weed, the Baltic Dry is going to the moon, there are 5 jobs for every American, US debt is negative, one month T Bills are not negative. In other news, 1,040 taken out. 865 next stop.
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maybe they already have the app but are just holding the phone wrong?
ROTFL
Nice! Hahhahaha
I'm thinking the HFT autobots have put their well used iPod app in reverse.
What's the opposite of "stick save"????
A goal.
And dogpile.
I'm pretty sure the opposite of the stick save is known as the "Robert Green", formerly known as the "Bill Buckner".
LMFHO!!!
LOL! That was pretty good, Mr. Smith!
That app only works on the I-pad, sorry for the confusion.
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Just wait until the BLS can't even manufacture positive private job growth on Friday. State and locals are a slow motion train wreck...and BB looked positively stricken when meeting with the Teleprompter yesterday.
So the Dow will be back around 10,000 at the close on Friday then?
I think the PPT is standing in line for the premiere of Eclipse today. They will be back tomorrow. Unless they really like the movie and go to see it again.
My guess, BLS aside, is that they need to paint 'panic' to get QE2 going for the UK/EU/USA. As such, they need another financial flag event to then scare congress and the EU/UK to do a synchronized QE so all currencies devalue at the same time. Simple as that actually imho of course.
Then again i do not have a PHD in economincs Ben Shalom Bernanke & Cie. ;->
Yeah everyone knew it, just nobody knew WHEN..
Don't be so honest Overleveraged.
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Komarovski: There are two kinds of men and only two. And that young man is one kind. He is high-minded. He is pure. He's the kind of man the world pretends to look up to, and in fact despises. He is the kind of man who breeds unhappiness, particularly in women. Do you understand?
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Rod Steiger was excellent as Komarovski. And Jule Christie....everytime I hear Laura's Song....
komarovski just wanted in her pants.
Everyone wanted in Julie Christie's pants.
Gromyiko: This is the last half of the last cigar in all of Moscow.
Hum, 95 % of ZH readers KNOW EXACTLY WHEN. That´s why the site exists only of multi millionaires...hum PAPER millionairs not GOLD millionaires...let me rethink, in Tyler Durden langauge : toilet paper trillionaires. Sorry for the confusion...:=)
Looks like the robots all went off line about 3:10. Can somebody reboot the servers before it's too late to hold the SPX to the required level? This absolutely will not do.
"Jiggle the cord, Ben!!!"
Correctomundo! SDS Bitchezs!
"Europe is hella strong"...................only Germany is Smokin'!!!!!!.
And they are the object of hate, by all their SO called Pardners'.
But then again, Germany has been beloved by its Euro pardners throughout history, no? I mean, what have they done to antagonize any of their Euro siblings over the last 1000 years?
Never too late to the party though, here comes the PPT.
25% chance that this is a tremendous fake out and the rally re-commences tomorrow.
75% chance that we are headed directly to 860.
However, with only 6 minutes to go, it does look like closing above 1083 is out of the question.
Oh, GS. They only missed their end-of-H1 SPX target by 277 points. Go easy on 'em.
It's hard to think the PPT just gave up now and accepted defeat. I expect several meltups that will cross 1040 again. What it would be more unbelievable is that GS finally got it right on the market.
I'm in the 25% camp, this just feels like a big big set up. Time to suck everyone in one last time.
Harvey 'Big Daddy' Pollitt: There ain't nuthin' more powerful than the smell of mendacity!
Cheering against the PPT in the last five minutes of the quarter is more exciting than cheering against Argentina in the last five minutes of the match.
word. this is really exciting/fun to watch!
Inverted stick save!
No, I got it now... PPT is actually run by jobless people who are actually between 18 and 25, and now that they've noticed that their antennas in their new debt bought iphones are broken they have resorted to selling themselves in order to pay for the repairs. Unfortunately no one will buy their sexual services since they're all so damn fat/obese/ugly because of their slacker parents who couldn't show them any discipline with either finance or food growing up. Welcome to America, welcome to the west. Idiots in all ages. I'm gonna kill myself now! Damn, out of shells for the twelve gauge! Plan B. Moving to China...
i told you guys the dead cat bounced so many times, he started to fall apart. it was a mess. they need a new cat
Sorry, I'm booked. Maybe next crisis. Stay in touch.
wise move :-)
They're using cougar to mop up the oil "spill" one cat at a time. Dip, soak, squeeze, repeat. It's gonna be a long hot summer in the Gulf, both for the residents and cougar.
There's gotta be a better gig than that cougar. :>)
They'd be better off with 600 gross of shamWOWs
I'm set actually. Touring with Lady Gaga next month, just down GoM way working on my tan. I'm on the beach, and next thing you know I'm attached to a pole and they're mopping up oil with me. I figure, I bet this one of those reality shows I walked into, you know where they fake all kinds of crazy stuff. I'll be famous. But I haven't figured out yet how to get all this oil off me. The Lady Gaga production crew will stick sequines all over me if I show up sticky. I hated the last time they did that; everyone thought I was a gay Republican but I'm not, I'm a predator damn it.
not gonna happen, QE 2.0 of 3 tril will happen. Obama is stupid, but he isnt dumb, he knows consumer confidence is tied 1:1 with the market. Bernanke is many times stupider, so guaranteed something happens.
Im as bearish as they come, but Im not getting shorter into this.
I think what we're seeing now, though, is what happens when the marginal return on debt drops below 0. So now all that new debt doesn't generate GDP (dubious as that measure is for evaluating the state of the economy) it actually reduces it. There's no saving this now.
+1 SUPER DUPER HAPPY MAJOR PLUS ONE FOR YOU.
Every dollar spent now reduces GDP by ten cents.
Yeah, right, spend away, and watch your GDP drop like a ROCK.
Even RAMMING through QE 2.0 will take some doing . . . and time. Keynesian clowns are being shouted down pretty openly now. Not so sure a few sane voices won't simply admit we need to take our medicine, clean up those balance sheets, etc. TBTF in question?
They could do QE2 on the sly, call it national security, and tell 3 people in Congress.
They might have started about 60 days ago.
It is already too late; QE1 was too small by half for the intended purpose (not saying I agreed with the purpose).
Now QE2 will just make the skid marks a bit longer and the smell of burning rubber a bit heavier in the air.
Because this bitch is locked up and aiming now to skid off the road.
Like I said the other day, any stimulus had better go to the people this time, or there will be blood riots in the streets of major cities. The people are not going to stand for it this time, knowing what happened last time. Blankfein and Dimon might wanna go underground for a while. Write your lawmakers folks, and demand any future stimulus goes to the people in their pockets to boost the economy or else. They tried it their lame way and it didn't work. Now try a bloggers way. We aren't as stupid as the FED thinks.
I don't think "the people" even know what QE is or care. Ask 10 people in your local Wal-Mart what they felt about the QE 1.0 and most will think you're talking about a movie or something.
Cyan,
Your correct sir, 95% do not, but..put Benjamins in their mailboxes, NOT jus $500.00-$1000.00,but a few grand, and it WILL be spent by 90%............and not on their debt reductions.
"I thank itsa big boat er sumthin frum Angland"
I can't wait for Leo's coming entry about how the technical destruction of these markets "is not as bad as you think"....
Well, somewhere down here is a buying opportunity...
"the recovery is taking hold", don't ya know?
NO!!! You're holding it wrong, you idiots! You'll never get any signal! Oh God, the market is crashing, and my latte isn't ready yet! Ohhhhhh, what do I do?
Well. Since you got fired from your job for spending to much time in the shitter playing iCrackSlacker you do what any other reasonable american would do, get a(nother) loan, or if you have a house, another mortgage...
This must reflect some sort of disagreement within the current administration...
forget to mention GS....fresh 52 week low.
Have been short SHLD since 115, 64 and change today. Sweet.
hella
she's gone. there she blows. the gates opened. the rusted metal yawning as it sways pointing in the direction of the abyss...
GOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!
Goodbye right shoulder!
And a completely convincing capitulation no less. This will get the boards popping tonight as everyone starts singing collapse. I'm holding some powder dry until I see a little more selling and then a pop up to test the former support, which is now resistance.
You and I both know they will lose this fight eventually. I think that when they do the whole thing catches fire and burns down in a matter of hours as the HFT bots grind each other into dust trying to skim an extra few mill on the way down, flash crash x5 with an extra kick of WTF just happened and a bit of OMFG on the side, served on a bed of sprouts with a light Chianti.
I don't imagine you'll have a chance to set that powder off. But best of luck.
Cougar,
I'm not concerned with getting my remaining (short) powder deployed. The market isn't collapsing tomorrow and I'll be fully deployed in a week or less. I'm concerned with getting the powder returned after it has done it's magic. I suspect they will cancel many trades and reset the market higher if there is any serious selling, even if there is no flash crash. National security and all.
In addition, a lot of short ETF's and (Inverse) Rydex mutual funds are actually complex derivatives with counter parties. I've read the prospectus very carefully (gotta do something with my down time :>)) and they specifically talk about ETF and Rydex mutual fund failures due to counter party risk.
Everyone needs to be aware of this. Everyone needs to read those short ETF and Inverse MF prospectus carefully and consider the risk. It might not pay to ride this baby all the way down because you might end up with a non-paying counter party.
CD and all, were there many trades that got busted after 5/6? I heard the possibility, but no gnashing of teeth that I'd expected to hear about. Thanks,
- Ned
236 stocks and ETF's were busted. Not sure if this is the final list. I know they added some over the following 48 hours. I don't remember to total dollar amount but it was in the 10's of millions of dollars. I had a few of my clients trades that were busted.
http://media.globenewswire.com/cache/6948/file/8216.pdf
The markets are down because they want it down to ensure finreg is passed without any changes or QE2 comes swiftly.
I would like to know how the big banks communicate with each other and where the SEC is on deciphering how they pass messages to one another when collectively determining market direction.
Also can we investigate Paul (Bankster) Kanjorski as to where he receied his Dow 2000 information when deciding to act like a mouth piece regarding threats.
"The markets are down because they want it down to ensure finreg is passed without any changes or QE2 comes swiftly."
They ain't that intelligent.
The markets are down because there are no buyers anymore.
What Muir said.
But I wouldn't short the house just yet.
Exactly. Watch tomorrow and then decide what to do. And by the way, tomorrow just started.
What about the wiretapping? Can't we just wiretap them to death?
Tyler, my advice is to post your negative news at 3:58. Alot can happen in an hour and 10 minutes.
All this whipsaw activity, It's like the market has epilepsy. Thank goodness it's all based on solid fundamentals or one might be led to believe this thing is rigged.
Yes. And thank goodness that Leo Kolivakis has told us how solid those fundamentals are. This is an excellent buying opportunity for Chinese solars.
Cha1-kn33z sol3rz 4evaz!!! Bai-bai-bai dose dripz!!
Since the PPT has demonstrated repeatedly that they can levitate the market at any time under most any conditions, the fact that they aren't doing so now means they don't wish to do so....now. Thus this can be considered a manufactured crash.
I won't hazard to guess why. But when someone/thing has been doing something for over a year and then suddenly doesn't, there's a reason behind the sudden absence. Their deliberate removal of support means they want the market to go lower.
I fully agree Cog. i have 2 theories. 1) they intend for a route of the democrats in the fall so they want the market to crash before november elections, and/or 2) they are choosing a controlled deflation vs hyperinflating. why would the oligarchs want the purchasing power of their 'hard earned' (cough!) money be destroyed. of the two evils, debt reversion to mean makes more sense as it keeps the power of money and control in their hands. hyperinflating just blows everybody up..... huh? comments? anybody.
While they can control the up, they cannot control the down nearly as easily. Nobody wants a down day so they won for a while, but pretty soon individual and sovereign interests will win out and the ups and the downs will have new meanings to the playerz. It will like water go to it's own level because there will be money in it.
It is worth remembering that while the last one out turns off the lights, the first one out takes the tip jar. And just maybe the first one out gets to setup the next game. We haven't been in this position since the fall of Rome.
Junkies know how to balance their uppers and downers, however overt it may appear.
Fine.
But what if a bunch of junkies are managing each other's uppers and downers?
And what if some of them are set to inherit from each other in the event of death?
And what if each thought they were the only one knew what they were doing?
And actually, they don't even like one another?
Now I think your reference is applicable to the world stage and the crisis we now face.
BINGO !!!!!! Hyperinflation serves no one but the Gold horders and you
know how much their loved.
Perhaps they would like whatever money might be left in the market to "flee to safety in Treasuries?" Could that be it?
Interesting point. The cynical conspiracists among us might say that, with the pols taking a break on finreg reform until after the 4th, they need to be properly versed in the damage that can/will occur if they don't play ball (when they return from their 4th of July parties, still stuffed full with burgers, dogs, & beer, their ears still ringin from illegal fireworks).
But then that's just cynical.
+1 CD... I'm in the Fin Reg camp.
Reminds me of hiding in the weeds by the side of the road. The glittering coin/wallet attached to a string. Pulling, and looking into the eyes of the stoopers.
Only played for looks then.
Fully agree, if you watch the charts all day long everyday you can tell they are manipulating it (trading the ES). Is it maybe because the want to scare investors into treasuries, after all a failed bond auction would be catastrophic.
You assume those clowns can even agree on the time of day. Considering as how they ALL went bust at once, I suppose that was a conspiricy to consolidate power?
Blankmind doesn't even know how half of his firm operates.
The intelligence of banksters extends only so far as to buy off the DC rats.
Noah
I do appreciate your point. And I've never considered the people "at the top" supposedly running a company to actually have much of anything to do with the day to day operations nor the implementation of long term strategy. The inner sanctum composed of the second and third levels of management from the top down is where the brains lay in most corporations and governments. This is where I look for the bad actors.
Behind every successful CEO are the second and third level managers that are running the show.
Where'd I put my DOW 9700 hat?
Time to get a new hat.
- bullwinkle
When I think of the PPT abandoning the market today....why do I picture the scene in Titanic where the musicians are playing, stop, then pat each other on the back and say goodbye just as they see the wall of water about to drown them?
Short SSO... :)
Just waiting for the teleprompter to say a few soothing words from the front lawn...
"We have seen some very positive trends in a number of sectors," Obama said at the White House after a meeting with US Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke.
Why can't Obama suggest to us that market valuations are too high, the same way he suggest that market valuations were low in March 2009?
At least the Japanese government told their people when they were manipulating their equity markets. :(
Tyler Durden, that's some writin'!
Oh no... they were there... around 3:45 they came in, but couldn't do much in the face of all the selling.
It's kind of like when Darth Vader finally died, I felt sorry for the ol' lug, in spite of it all. Know what I mean?
He didn't die...Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EbSoiNh_Q
Back at the clubhouse, 3:30 EST....
"BS, I'm tired. You make the call. I'm gonna take a nap." LawWrench finished his coke [buuurp] and threw the can towards the trash as he walked out the door; he missed. "Pick it up Timmah." Timmah scowled and ignored him. "Timmah come here." Said BS. As he got up out of his seat, he accidentally kicked his chair down, but didn't notice. Bawknee set it back upright. BS put his arm around him as he spoke. "Timmah, I want you to get on the Nintendo; Lord is going to sell into the market in mass, and I want you to buy everything he does. You understand?" "Timmah!" He replied. "I don't need to tell you, but remember to keep..." He choked..."metals....keep them in line. We want the market to stay within range; we want to keep our options open for tomorrow." "Timmah." Timmah acknowledged. Timmah grabbed the controller and unpaused the game. BS headed outside.
"Bawknee, come have a smoke with me on the swing." BS poured himself another drink. "I wood be dewighted two!"
Breaking News: Headlines only...SEC/PPT Announcing Market Closes Adjusted: S&P 1083 .. DOW 9800
Not like the PPT didnt try. Huge stick save attempt backfired because the algos fired it off too soon and the bulls knew it was the last chance to unload within stick save territory for awhile.
Now its up to the futures and currency manipulation team to save the day.
Why no PPT-induced rescue of SPX 1040?
The Fed and Treasury, along with their bank (JPM), C) and pseudo-bank (GS, MS) factotums, want FinReg passed by the lazy, feckless, corrupt Congress.
Today's drubbing was simply BB's/LS'/TG's way of saying F-U to Sen Reid, who is dragging his heels. (Strong message to follow if the poodles on Capitol Hill don't roll over soon.)
The need QE2, so must paint the tape with panic.
Yup. Wall Street just telling the Pres. "listen bud we need unemployment checks back in these sheeps pockets , make sure to bring back the tax credit, hustle up with that 300 Billion in stimulus, be sure to leave the Fin Reg as is and get those votes bought over the weekend and we need QE2 and time to get on the phone to Europe to get some trillion dollar bailouts lined up"
After that we will bring the markets up.Either that or Martial Law bitches.
No way the markets are going back to their recent nominal highs any time soon. The social mood has swung too far to trust the financial industry or politicians.
Quickly. Grab this before they archive it.
Conversations With Bob Prechter on the End Game
http://www.financialsense.com/fsn/main.php
C/D, besides being a great writer and long term thinker, ya have probably played a hand or two of poker. Milestones
I am looking for a link but didn't Alan Greenspan say just a month or so ago that the markets will be fine?
I think he was hinting that if they aren't...everything will collapse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1owcncKCHg
Just because I can.
what the hell is PPT??? my dumb-ass missed that one
Search ZH on "Plunge Protection Team". You'll find lots to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets
"what the hell is PPT??? "
So you are the guy!! I heard you have been living under a rock for the last 3 years.... didnt believe it myself...
haha I know right. thanks for the info ZH...ahh just one more gang to "take care of things" eh??? sounds like a great idea...as does the idea of regulators to regulate the regulators which our latest regulation bill calls financial reform.
It's such a joke...Reagan created the PPT, our "reps" (excuse me) are all lovin' the current reform bill, they all took out glass-steagall, etc., etc., etc.
If you still subscribe to repub versus dem and actually THINK they're oppositional you're only contributing to this giant mess...ummm can anyone say (let alone spell) divide and conquer???
No worries on the PPT thing as we all needed to learn at some point. You'll now learn (though odds are you already know) many acronyms like MOPE, RE, CRE, POTUS, FUBAR, J6P, FIAT, UE, M3, U-6, etc. Welcome to ZH, pull up a chair at the ZH bar and grab a free drink and cigar on me.
REMEMBER:
Tyler Durden: Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
+1MM awesome.
Dr No. He's just a stupid policeman.
Sam Lowry: Excuse me, Dawson, can you put me through to Mr. Helpmann's office?
Dawson: I'm afraid I can't sir. You have to go through the proper channels.
Sam Lowry: And you can't tell me what the proper channels are, because that's classified information?
Dawson: I'm glad to see the Ministry's continuing its tradition of recruiting the brightest and best, sir.
Sam Lowry: Thank you, Dawson.
The people in charge of not letting this happen. PPT Plunge Protection Team
Somebody kicked the cord to the GS servers ?
Maybe somebody leaked the Friday jobs #, possible explanation for the late day sell off.
look at the monthly charts for the S&P going back to 1982. by the time we reach the 860-840 range for this h&S, we will be at the neckline of a massive h&s going back to the mid '90's. if we break that neckline - it is s&p 200-100 range. now that is some downside sh*t!
Sorry Tyler, didn't realize the markets were sliding into the abyss. I am very happy today. Sorry to question your expertese. I bow to you. I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy.
Will we necessarily need to see a strong follow through tomorrow for confirmation before the the base jump to 860 fun begins?
Friday should be interesting. Consensus for the headline payroll number is -100,000, but since that includes ~ -250,000 census workers, the actually number would be +150,000(ex. census). Still extremely weak, but I havent decided how it will be reported or how the market will react. I wouldnt be surprised if most of the talking heads were not aware that you have to add the loss from temp census workers back into the headline number to get the actual payroll number that doesnt include the impact from census jobs.
great avatar!
Support will break tomorrow unless gold and silver move higher than than 2%. Shouldn't be a big deal with silver, it has traded there recently. Gold at $1288 per OZ on the other hand is a dead give away. Thursdays are fantastic...pass the popcorn!
iTimberrrrr
Weapons-grade funny, that.
Perhaps this is ploy to get some fresh shorts into the action...then pull a huge rally, bust up the shorts, teach them the lesson that the house is always right. You have to play along to get along with this cartel at the helm.
Just wait for the bounce tomorrow morning after the indicators are released....
marc faber said if the bulls are to have any chance, 1044 must hold. he said 1044. 1040 broke....i hear another guy say it has to last 24 hours. but i think this is all just denial. it could bounce back up, but why? on what good news? hasn't everybody lost their patience with it? i feel the negativity is extreme....it needs a release.
Maybe that's just what they want you to think.
why would they want me to think things would crash? they cant have a rally without followers..
Word heard on the street' "It's Godzillla! Run for your lives!"
Isn't the finreg bill on hold? Wish Koppel was alive for this one, "Wall St held hostage...day 1!"
Ted Koppel's son died recently. Ted Koppel is still alive.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8757462.stm
I think the willing suspension of disbelief that has been in vogue for the past couple of years has just been suspended.
And I had to look up where the phrase "willing suspension of disbelief" originated (just because.) I thought it was Shakespeare but I was wrong. Turns out the phrase originated with Coleridge, who authored the poem Kubla Khan after an opium induced dream (seems kind of apropos):
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree :
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.
....
I'm 80% in "cash" in my 401k, and I tell you I'm shaking in my boots worried about the other 20%. I still keep 20% in mid-/small-caps because I feel this may just be one huge fakeout that can take us to 1375 on the S&P. Everybody's watching the 1040 level. Heck, my grandmother called me about 1040 when it broke this afternoon.
Just take a chill pill and let's see how it plays out. I'm NOT buying puts in my spec account though.
1375? - no chance
Now that's a "Willing Suspense of Disbelief" Leverage the 20% spec money on Index short positions and you might just recover the 80% in your 401K that the gov has their eyes on for mandatory long term treasury bonds.....which will then be prompty inflated away to zero.
How can you trust anybody other than yourself to 'look after' your life savings at this point? Under the mattress would be far better in this environment.
QE2 is coming, no doubt, but not yet. It is not politically feasible at this time, when the world of hurt (yes it will get worse) falls upon the unwashed masses they will beg for it, and is when the printing presses go full bore.
We arent there yet, but the people will be beggging to get out of the shit hole their in. The pain is being felt, but not by enough people yet. Afterall, employment benefits have been extended, food stamps are being used, people still watching "how the lottery changed my life" etc.
that is when the equity markets get sacraficed and the citizenry buys their own bonds a la japan. and the investor will say " I dont care if I get 3% on 30 years at least my money is guaranteed."
Where's Robot Trader these days?
We have not heard from him since the last NFP, when he was long those Euros- ouch.
Suck it up Robot and get back in there!
Al Huxley:
"new debt doesn't generate GDP".
Yes, that's the gist of it!
Thanks for the giggles TD!
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