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Presenting The Belgian Donut

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Everyone has heard of Belgian waffles. Below we present the Belgian donut, because sometimes a chart is worth a thousand CDS runs.

 

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Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:54 | 764654 hedgeless_horseman
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Down 1,000 basis points in 90 days, but who is counting?

Dear Lord, thank you for giving me the solice of not owning a single share of a bond fund as we head into December and then 2011.  Amen.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:57 | 764671 IQ 145
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 "Bonds; instruments of guaranteed confistication"  Famous quotation. And, yes, Amen, also.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:35 | 764771 Double down
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+

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:30 | 764972 carbonmutant
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eeep!

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 22:10 | 766607 Buck Johnson
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The whole house of cards in europe is coming down and the people holding paper are getting out and as fast as they can.  Ask yourself for the last two days why we didn't end positive in the US but was down -30 and -40 on both days.  It's because it should have been down days of -300 and -400 for the dow with all the news coming out of europe and asia (especially China).  The PPT is doing everything they can to keep the illusion in the US going and in Europe the illusion is failing because they have reached the point of no return.  Countries have been hiding their problems and it's coming to ahead.  Even countries that weren't even in the PIIGS discussion (Belgium) we are finding out are in trouble.  The big three France, Germany and UK needs the charade to continue because their banks are the ones that invested heavily in these countries (the reason for the EU not wanting a haircut for the senior debt institutions).  They want the problems and austerity to be on those countries and not theirs.  But what they don't know is they are just buying time and will eventually have to kill the Euro/ECB for their own currency.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:52 | 764656 erik
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The Nasdaq is surprisingly keeping the market under wraps today.

GOOG -3.3%

AAPL -1.5%

AMZN -2.0%

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:55 | 764666 FEDbuster
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Just waiting for today's POMO fix to take them higher.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:29 | 764753 tmosley
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Come and gone.

Looks like we're going to have to move to something harder.  Where are the markets eyeballs, and what can we inject into them to fuck them up more?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 17:19 | 765655 cplusplusandloathing
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Dollar up, American stocks down.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:54 | 764659 razorthin
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Think about buying BGB - the H&S has just about hit target.  Not an endorsement of Belgium per se - just a high% ST trade.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:54 | 764660 RobotTrader
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Every hedge fund decided to buy the nipple bottom on the XAU.

Up, up, and away.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:58 | 764673 geminiRX
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Speaking of bottoms, how low can solars go? Leo has to be buying with both fists.

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SOL&iid=last5

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:01 | 764681 Spalding_Smailes
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They are all down 30-40% in 6-8 weeks. Leo's wife is throwing his shirts/shoes on the front lawn as we speak.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:37 | 764692 hedgeless_horseman
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At least with those Hellenic Bonds he was buying back at 5% Leo has diversified his losses across multiple asset classes.  The five year opened at 12.289.  That's going to leave a hole in some Canadians' pensions. 

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/cbuilder?ticker1=GGGB5YR%3AIND

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:52 | 764818 spekulatn
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TISFS.

8) 

 

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:57 | 764840 williambanzai7
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Jeepers, should I sell them now Leo?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:25 | 764718 scatterbrains
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To the commenter who suggested MNEAF a few months ago..   I toast to you friend..  show yourself!   It kinda looks like a dounut holer on the chart with a sharp piercing tip.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:22 | 764727 Double down
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I love ya Robo!!!

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:54 | 764663 Howard_Beale
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In Elliott Wave terms, this could be getting to the end of the third wave, assuming we are in a serious bear market and a series of 5--which I believe to be true. That means a bounce for the 4th and then lookout below.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:20 | 764722 Vampyroteuthis ...
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In EW, that looks like a 3rd of a 3rd or the most powerful wave. We may still have to finish the full 3rd wave before a 4th rebound in the spring. by then, Europe will most likely be toast!

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:31 | 764757 Howard_Beale
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It could be interpreted that way as well. Time will tell.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:55 | 764664 BobPaulson
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Cool chart. Buy now. Looks like they're on sale.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:57 | 764670 RobotTrader
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Europe stopped right at the 200-day.

Bottom fishers will be buying hand over fist.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:08 | 764693 Cone of Uncertainty
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How do you embed photos?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:13 | 764699 Farcical Aquati...
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All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. Even here.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:30 | 767415 crymzon
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very well said!

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:33 | 764983 Rotwang
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By being annointed.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 15:04 | 765075 Cone of Uncertainty
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Cool, I eagerly await that day.

 

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 15:22 | 765144 ihedgemyhedges
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The same way you embed a coed.  Just get her drunk.................

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 15:13 | 765114 dnarby
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WTF?!

Where's the volume?!

Take off your bulltard pasties, please.  For your own sake, if nothing else.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:58 | 764675 Apostle of Unknown
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They blame it on the Anglo-Saxon press.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:00 | 764679 Dick Darlington
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mmmm, donut.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:01 | 764680 Dismal Scientist
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The legendary Belgian dentist (aka the retail investor) must be screaming blue murder. Unrealised gains sure do evaporate faster than they accumulate.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:02 | 764682 RobotTrader
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Everyone scared to death today.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:12 | 764698 geminiRX
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They certainly should be....

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:03 | 764684 iota
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They'll be having economic crisis talks shortly. Just as soon as they decide which language to use.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:12 | 764697 Cone of Uncertainty
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Multilateral Financial Market Stabalisation and Sovereign Debt Risk Mitigation Tactics and Strategies for a Unified EU..talks.

 

MFMSSDRMTSUEU

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:15 | 764706 cbaba
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Unbelievable, its a real Crash. This means nobody wants to buy Belgian Government Bonds.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:20 | 764719 Cone of Uncertainty
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I will post an updated yield chart if someone tells me how.

 

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:27 | 764741 Cognitive Dissonance
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You cannot post a photo unless you're a contributor.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:34 | 764768 tmosley
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You will have to post it elsewhere and link to it here, I'm afraid.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:19 | 764714 erik
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from Markit CDS, daily wideners

Italy 17.50%

Denmark 14.09%

Belgium 13.34%

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:19 | 764716 Goldilikes permabear
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hey im going to a joseph stiglitz lecture and want to ask him a tough question ...any specific ones for joe that might sting?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 16:04 | 765319 moneymutt
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what is the best thing for the regular folks of the world to do to stop the banksters and their fraud and rape? where is the best leverage, what leg can we kick out?

really, its a political grab by elites or a fight against corruption, the numbers hardly matter to me anymore

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:20 | 764721 doomandbloom
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Doh!

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:21 | 764725 Cone of Uncertainty
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Belgium has the thrid highest repayment burden in 2011 behind Italy and Greece.

 

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:22 | 764730 Cone of Uncertainty
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Vix in the US still low around 22 or so.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:23 | 764731 kaiserhoff
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Relax Tyler.  Everything will be fine until 2013 according to the great Merkel..., or maybe that was 12/13 or 3013, when we'll get serious about hair cuts.  Whatever.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:29 | 764747 Terra-Firma
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A small country of little strategic value but with a short fuse and many secrets. Fun fun.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:29 | 764751 spartan117
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What do they make in Belgium besides beer and waffles?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:37 | 764776 Uncle Remus
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More Belgians.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:37 | 764778 plongka10
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pedophiles

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:49 | 764810 spdrdr
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Magnificent Moustaches!

 

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:49 | 764811 Ethics Gradient
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Currently chocolate, chips, weird sea-side resorts and car designers. One day they might get around to making a government, but it's unlikely.

Pretty soon though they'll be making Euros out of thin air. And that's all that counts.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:57 | 764843 DoChenRollingBearing
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Haha above.

Belgium makes excellent chocolate too.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:59 | 764856 Temporalist
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EU Unelected Officials

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:04 | 764874 SheepDog-One
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What else does anyone need besides beer and waffles?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:40 | 765003 bugs_
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weapons smuggling

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 15:52 | 765269 hedgeless_horseman
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Flemm.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:47 | 764805 Youri Carma
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Belgium joins financial markets’ hit list 24 November 2010, (Guardian.UK) http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/24/belgium-financial-markets-hit-list

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:56 | 764839 Ahmeexnal
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TD, how about overlaying the manneken piss on that chart at the end of august right at 108,000 unloading his junk?

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 13:57 | 764842 MyKillK
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Focusing on Belgium is a great way to forget that the EU doesn't have the means to bail out Spain.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:01 | 764866 Temporalist
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Nobody talking about France or Japan either.  The shit sandwich is being passed around so only one diner stinks at a time...but they are all shit smeared with no handiwipes left.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 19:34 | 766261 ratava
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I would say Japan is a special case, their government owes money to their own population who made the money by working and saved it by putting it in the gov't coffers. Europe is not borrowing from their citizens because they do not have any. EU does not tax, EU does not issue bonds, EU has a tiny budget compared to the individual countries. Yet, they have their own currency and more so one of the highest valued ones. When you buy a bond for 1.3 Euro now, you must consider the risk of having it paid back in a 0.7 Euro 10 years out when everyone realizes EUR is just a bastard child of a weak political union. You have to demand higher rate to offset this risk. Printing money out of a thin air by ECB is not gonna help, because the income/asset side of their balance sheet will be limited to whatever leftovers the member states throw at it. But hey, maybe this is intentional. Once in the corner, people will chew the unification of fiscal policy across the union a lot easier.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:03 | 764871 TheSettler
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TD,

You're killing me... because sometimes a chart is worth a thousand CDS runs. Hilarius

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:14 | 764888 Miles Kendig
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And I got laughed out of town for bringing up Belgium five weeks ago in my only article ....  Stll working better than solar

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 14:12 | 764897 CrashisOptimistic
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I suspect the magical 2013 date is the expiration of many swaps.

She's a fool if she thinks the banks won't start rolling them into new ones in 2012.  As long as the swap threat exists, the banks get taxpayer backstops.  Rolling the swaps costs them nothing.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 16:06 | 765322 moneymutt
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I know its all a slow motion house of cards falling, but the way money flows in and out of places, commodities, currencies, bonds etc is rigged.

Tue, 11/30/2010 - 18:50 | 766078 AUD
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You would have to think though, that trading at 108 the Belgian Government bond was overpriced, even if it is only priced in the ECB version of itself?

Doesn't anything above 100 mean it is trading above face 'value'? There are many other government papers similarly priced presently.

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