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Presenting The "Evil Empire's" Projected Debt/GDP

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Remember how ole' Ronnie bankrupted the Evil Empire by forcing them to build ever more and more nukes, leading to the collapse of the communist empire and unleashing a whole lot of upscale Wall Street prostitution rings in the process? Maybe the CIA can do the same back home, because if the Russian "post default" debt/GDP is any indication perhaps it is time Regan's ghost gave the order to bankrupt none other than the "good empire": the good old US of A. Here is Russian debt/GDP, based on CIA historical data and IMF projections. No "Kolhoz of 6" in Moscow any time soon.

Oh, and, for those asking, here is US debt/GDP.



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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:15 | 1475402 augie
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Went to my local coin shop today. They want 100.00 over spot per ounce of gold. Should i go somewhere else or is that pretty standard right now?  

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:17 | 1475406 KingPin 999
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go somewhere else

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:50 | 1475490 MarketTruth
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Better prices on popular items may be at

Volume buyers usually use (20oz gold min and 500oz silver min)

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:25 | 1475716 Gromit
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I recommend Tulving.  Pleasure to do business with them.

Extraordinary delivery method. You wire them funds, they deliver by overnight mail.

Well you wouldn't want the neighbors to see an armored car pull up to your home would you?

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:36 | 1475729 Hook Line and S...
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What brand of underwear do you wear? How long do they last? How would you rate them for comfort?

Also, did you eat something nutritious last night?

What's your favorite detergent for getting out stains?

Uhhh..oh, this the wrong forum?

(kidding ; ), just feeling like a dick)

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:56 | 1476021 GoinFawr
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"(kidding ; ), just feeling like a dick)"

Whoa, too much information there. Now who's cruisin' in the wrong venue? This is a financial site, not 'Brokeback Mountain'.

(kidding ; ), just feeling like a drink)

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:42 | 1477816 Hook Line and S...
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Good job. I love it when someone gives me a bit o' grief when I'm diving head first into hypocrisy!

Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:19 | 1480823 GoinFawr
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Well, I'm not sure that qualifies you as a hypocrite; I mean, show me someone who claims to have zero irony in their life, and I'll show you a bald-faced liar.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 08:27 | 1476484 Scroto Gaggins
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I buy from gainsville too.  Great source. 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:47 | 1475409 InconvenientCou...
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get a quote for the dealer to buy from you. If he offers $100 below spot or worse, tell him to FO  and use APMEX.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:48 | 1475633 Spitzer
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Bars from bullion banks are the cheapest as far as I can tell. And not on the websites. Go into a bullion bank like Scotia and buy the bars.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 21:51 | 1475890 lasvegaspersona
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APMEX does not communicate well. Try to call them about an order. Hope you get a better response than I did.

Be aware Kitco is in bankruptcy. I believe they still are doing business but I'd call first. Tulving is great but they do not do small orders.

My local coin store was easier to sell to but the prices were not as good as any of the aforementioned.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:53 | 1476022 Prometheus418
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Good point- 

One of the local shops here charges well over spot for silver- but when I offered to sell, he was paying well over spot as well.  

Guess he just didn't like the paper price- can't blame him, really.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:29 | 1475445 Sudden Debt
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Search on Ebay. And don't buy ounces, buy sovereigns or 20 francs gold  european coins.

You can still find right on spot.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:55 | 1475506 NotApplicable
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I like to watch this site for ebay action.

Looking at some of the auctions, $100 over spot may be the going price for immediate possession/delivery. APMEX is currently $73-$83 over, while Tulving is now $50 over ($62 for 2011). These are all premiums for Eagles though, BTW.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:07 | 1475532 jus_lite_reading
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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:32 | 1475967 HungrySeagull
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Possibly. I have been watching Oil two weeks now...

Bullion Direct is another source Augie.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:25 | 1475580 MFL8240
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California Numismatic Call to Ken Slater at 888-443-4653.  Good People!

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 21:18 | 1475807 Midas
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California numismatics has always treated me well. I would not pay $100 over spot.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:38 | 1475608 augie
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Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm going to try some of the auctions, if not i'll go with APMEX.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 06:57 | 1476361 francis_sawyer
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 just dig it out of the ground for $5

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:23 | 1475712 AchtungAffen
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Where I live 100USD over spot is not only normal but low. It's usually 150-200 USD over spot. And I mean for 1oz bars and coins from the only bullion dealers around (which in fact are banks, local ones more focused on investment than your run of the mill bank). You might get some paper gold for cheaper than that, but go and buying the coin and putting it in your pocket? Regularly that's that spread. I bet there are other places where to get this, as buying gold is legally considered as buying foreign exchange (and I know there are out of the system places for that).

But the most amazing thing I found in this PM dystopia is that ask prices for your regular gold coin and bar are almost 50-70USD over spot. Either these banks want to lose money or they know you just can't win over them on arbitrage for whatever reason.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:34 | 1475730 TempFlashback
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Try other local retail; You should be able to find spot + $70-$75.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 21:38 | 1475851 Diablo
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provident metals; spot +$64 for AGE's


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 06:44 | 1476353 Moe Howard
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My fav-o-right place to purchase AGE & ASE 1 OZT coins! If I was rich I would buy from Tuvling.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 05:03 | 1476313 GeneMarchbanks
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+49 on K-rands, +59 on Aussie Kangas, MPs, Philharmonics. Eagles are @ 70 I believe at my local.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:18 | 1475408 Spitzer
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^ Thats fuct, buy bars from bullion banks. They charge a 1/4 over spot if you buy more then 5k worth.


As for the article. It kinda puts to rest the idea that somehow the US military is capable of backing puchasing power in the dollar. I'm sure people thought the same about the Ruble.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:18 | 1475410 cossack55
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You imply the CIA is functional. LOL, LMFAO, ROTFFL.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:24 | 1475433 teaddy bearish
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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:58 | 1475514 NotApplicable
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Oh, they're quite functional. Just not in any good way.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 06:18 | 1476336 Edward Fiatski
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I don't know of any demolition company in the world that has ever done skyscrapper demolition jobs of two 110 stories buildings, ever. Get the drift with regards to functionality?

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:19 | 1475415 Cleanclog
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I have actually been giggling, though only a little, that soon the mail-order brides will be American, going to Russia.  Weird, but predictable.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:44 | 1475466 Global Hunter
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? ?????, ????? ??? ??? ????? ???? ?????????? edit, russian characters didn't post properly, it wasn't that funny to begin with it certainly isn't in English...I wish they all could be california girls.





Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:33 | 1475595 Cleanclog
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Da, to je istina.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:19 | 1475939 Goatboy
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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:37 | 1475603 ParaZite
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I would say that would be one sure fire way to bankrupt Russia. 

Send in the American gold diggers!

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 01:45 | 1476241 CompassionateFascist
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Send Nicole Brown Simpson. Oh, wait...she's dead.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 21:07 | 1475779 Sokhmate
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In Russia you don't order mail-order brides. Mail-order brides order you.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:34 | 1475972 HungrySeagull
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That cannot be too far from the truth. Russian Women come here and hook all kinds of Men until they find the one that has two coins together all night and then some.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 06:46 | 1476356 Moe Howard
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I was in Korea 1998-99 - Russian girls for the asking all over Seoul.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:19 | 1475417 Cursive
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Schumpterian creative destructruction FTW.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:51 | 1475496 max2205
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USSR market to fantasy is working better than bernakle's method

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:20 | 1475418 Ghordius
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I thought the old USSR died because nobody there had the guts of cutting defense costs.

Takes real courage or extreme need to slash defense.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:47 | 1475748 Hook Line and S...
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USSR broke apart most dominantly because of the inability to stand up against a competitor that owned the world reserve currency in which oil was largely priced. Reduced defense spending was a symptom, rather than a cause. There was also massive discontent with the status quo (which was addressed by glosnost and perestroika). 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:42 | 1475988 HungrySeagull
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They also broke apart industrially. If I recall, a US Missile would weigh.... 200 ton and throw a bunch of nukes essentially within one or two city blocks. Soviet Missiles were monsters weighing 350 tons and up and if they hold together long enough land a nuke or three somewhere in the city.

The other issue with Soviet Nukes is Megatonnage rules. They don't need to land too close to anything to wipe it out.

The third issue was industry, Soviets love simple things in mass quanity. They could theoratically field 50,000 Main Battle Tanks into Frankfurt and Belgium within a few weeks. Far faster and moster than the USA's old Reforger Exercises could do assuming the Air Bridges and Convoys survive. So NATO and USA has to have equiptment that can kill many very fast but without supplies kaput.


The USSR Airforce bases are crap and the planes by the thousands have no self thinking allowed. Our pretty Airforce would not think of operating out of USSR... amazing how times change... and yet ... stay the same.

Soviets loved our Jeans, Music and other things and we loved some things of thiers too. However at the end of the day, our Nation was much nicer to be in than the drab concrete blocks they call apartments.


But Reagan forgot to reverse his policies when the USSR imploded and stop the "System" It's been running this Nation against imaginary monsters in the Closet and under the bed for decades aided by very big spending Democrats who know nothing else. Health ACare? Ram it, Defense? Buy it. Unemployment? Charge it so that Torches and Pitchforks dont appear on the Washington Mall.


See where I am going?


Now that our Shuttle is finished with no replacements after 30 years, the Soviets are our heavy lift space service now.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:53 | 1477860 Hook Line and S...
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Great input. Without going into details, and asking you simply to accept my word (ridiculous I know), many of my close relatives have been deep into the astronautics/aeronautics industry for seemingly ever. That said, I will tell you with surety that the shuttle has had a replacement in operation for quite awhile.

Here's a case in point... my 'step father' brought home from his place of employment detailed plans for the cesium-ion engine that he was working on in the mid-70's! I still have them in a folder in my closet. They announced this cesium-ion engine existence not too long ago as a 'recent development'. No kidding. The technology you see is 30-40 years in most cases behind what exists.

This is simple mass media manipulation for public consumption.


Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:20 | 1475419 Shameful
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Russia exports something a lot of people want, oil.  The US exports Dollars, fraud, and death...somewhat less needed things...But hey we both have our corrupt oligarchies so we have that in common.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:24 | 1475435 Incubus
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We've got corn, and corn-based products, too. 

Even our fine wimminz are corn-based. 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:31 | 1475451 Shameful
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Yep the finest in genetically modified corn.  And I doubt we can rely on corn or agg since we have the free handouts.  Pay me to not work and I'll show you I can sit on my hands like a champ.  Good thing corporate farming is so labor intensive and makes so much money for the community...oh wait...dammit!  Oh and Ogallala Aquifer is getting pumped fairly hard, and when run low on that might see the Midwest have to change crops.  Corn is quite thirsty.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:30 | 1475937 GoinFawr
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So are brain tumours, and they just love to slurp up the fructose!
(that wasn't directed at you, it was for the ones who ensure that practically every processed food item has a good dose of corn sugars in it)

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 01:48 | 1476243 CompassionateFascist
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MMMMMMmmmmm.....Cherry Flavored Dr. Pepper!

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:35 | 1475461 rajat_bhatia
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we got "kim kardashian" too

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:27 | 1475443 km4
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Change header title to Russia ( old evil empire ) debt compared to USA ( new evil empire ) debt


Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:45 | 1475481 CrashisOptimistic
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This is about oil.  Russia produces 10 million bpd.

At $100/barrel, that is obviously $1billion/day.  $365 billion/yr.  

It's hard to not balance your budget with that influx.

Forget comparisons to Russia.  Their production of oil will be falling soon, but they will try to bank money before then.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:02 | 1475525 NotApplicable
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So... other than the unproven theory of biotic oil, why will their production soon fall? With their deep wells, it isn't like they have to wait for it to trickle up to the surface, like the shallow wells in the Middle East.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:45 | 1475623 Jack Burton
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Plus the melting high arctic is opening up massive new off shore fields for Russia to exploit. This will give Russia a second wave of oil production for another 50 years. Expensive to produce oil of course, but in a world of slowing production, Russia can ask and get the price needed to produce at a nice profit.


It is not for nothing that NATO expands east and America invades on the southern front. The Neo-Cons have made clear that Russia is the ultimate target and have already made plans to break the nation up into smaller easily manipulated and threatened nations. Siberia is the prize they want to cut away from European Russia. But Putin and friends are well aware of NATO plans and have already announced a first use of nuclear weapons on any force crossing the borders of Russia that conventional Russian forces can not deal with. They have stated that they reserve the right to detonate nuclear weapons over any military units to cross their borders.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:50 | 1475639 cosmictrainwreck
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wow... I always thought Vlad had designs on seat of World Emperor [and maybe does] but sounds like he's got plenty to keep him busy meantime. Good fuckin' luck, USA 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:33 | 1475970 baby_BLYTHE
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I would much prefer Putin over the last several fascist dictators the US has had to experience.

Putin basically saved Russia post-Soviet Union. Under his thumb the Russian economy totally rebuilt from collapse right back into a first world nation in a very short period of time (relatively speaking). The data certainly doesn't lie.

Even economic greats, such as Marc Faber, agree Russia will be one of the strongest countries to come out of the inevitable SHTF within the next few years.

Visiting Russia this fall for a school trip this fall, looking forward to it. 

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 01:51 | 1476244 CompassionateFascist
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And, unlike ZOG-ruled USA, Russia has freedom of speech re the JP.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 07:05 | 1476367 francis_sawyer
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I hope you like cabbage...

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:12 | 1475692 CrashisOptimistic
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It will fall because they drill 6000 wells per year to undo the natural decline of emptying fields.  Lukoil produced 5% fewer barrels last year Even After the 6000 wells being drilled.

They are going dry.  It's not infinite.  The real crusher is 6,000 wells per year required billions of dollars investment to get not very much out per well before you have to go to the next one.  RDS and Total are simply not lining up to invest a billion dollars here and there for drilling that produces fewer and fewer barrels before the wellbore is empty.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 00:09 | 1476143 bakken
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They have spent precious little on explortion and development.  They have nothing in line to replace their dying fields.  Nothing at all yet.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:42 | 1475739 TempFlashback
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While your comment is spot on, don't forget about 30% is used domestically.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:48 | 1475492 blindman
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all p.r..
PsyWar - Wake UP!
rolling destruction their way to riches. they
eat babies, your babies.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 10:25 | 1477000 Monedas
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More evil happens in Syria in one week than in 100 years of US labor history ! The same struggling unions have now strangled the economy ! The Keynesian Ponzi collapse that is upon us is owned by these poor little, struggling labor interests now that they have held power for 80 years ! Labor has trumped management 1000 fold in the evil game ! Monedas 2011 Historical Perspective Vaudeville Show

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 10:25 | 1477001 Monedas
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More evil happens in Syria in one week than in 100 years of US labor history ! The same struggling unions have now strangled the economy ! The Keynesian Ponzi collapse that is upon us is owned by these poor little, struggling labor interests now that they have held power for 80 years ! Labor has trumped management 1000 fold in the evil game ! Monedas 2011 Historical Perspective Vaudeville Show

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 18:16 | 1478895 blindman
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@".. The same struggling unions have now strangled the economy !.."
i think th unions could be accused of being accomplices but not the
main criminal, strangler. you may have noticed we are experiencing
a wealth distribution imbalance of historic proportions, this being
a major part of the economic dehydration. so the mega wealthy have
all the liquidity looking for investments, but there are none because...
the wealthy have all the liquidity.
the unions have fought this, always. this distribution imbalance results from
a debt based fiat money system where fractional reserve lending at
interest is run by private banks, creating an insolvent and ponzi
economy predicated on impossible and destructive growth.
reality spoils the show and bullshit does not fix it. the unions
supplied the manufacturing sector with consumers and supplied the
political class with votes to justify their authority to steal assets
for the financial sector, FIRE, within the broad framework of 'law'.
legitimacy was once an issue in the popular mind.
management trumped, but never ownership. ownership just needed unions
more than they needed any particular management.. the problem is not
the unions but the mentality of union members is " a problem '.
they don't know what money is, but neither do their employers.
no one was going to state the truth of the plan in public. decant
the people from their humanity and their natural born rights and integrity,
mine their minds and confiscate their value globally. level the living
standards, reduction, and arbitrage the evolution of the process at every
turn. it will be messy and ugly depending on your location and situation,
but it is the larger plan for the elite to realize their self fulfilling
goal of mastery and freedom / risk off for them / risk on for you.
that is the unions don't own it and you might be wrong to think they do?
you have to be cognizant of the affects of the evolution of fiat money as
they variably impact locations and populations over time.
blaming the unions is like blaming the neck of the victim for the
crime of 'strangling to death".
not blameless, but not the main culprit.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:55 | 1475507 Corn1945
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I noticed Russia's low debt levels a while ago. They are in a very good spot because they have little debt and actually produce real stuff.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:53 | 1475647 Lord Koos
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Maybe the state is in a good spot.  The average Russian, I'm not too sure about that.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:44 | 1475743 TempFlashback
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Agreed. But, time and circumstance may change their situation sooner than later.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:01 | 1475517 slewie the pi-rat
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@ augie and $100 over spot:  a few months ago, one of my spies related a shop with a "premium" but the dealer applied it to all US gold eagles.  he bought fractionals @ the same "rate" so, in this case, a 1/10 oz for a $10 premium = $160 + 10 = $170. 

the "upskie" was not as high as $100, and he got some nice 1/4 oz eagles, too. 

i just called my local dealer, from whom i usually get the best price to buy, out of 3 guys, locally.  he is selling 1 oz eagles for $1665 and 1/10 oz for $180, for one coin.  so your local guy wouldn't get the business here in norCal.  but, your guy might be higher on the buy side, too, so ask for the spread if you think of it, next time.  what is his buy price, too?  then, you will get an idea of his overall game, which will not stay constant over time---as a dealer's spread is quite sensitive, depending on size, location, and competition.  no competition? 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 21:10 | 1475784 Boston
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$35 over spot for 1 oz. Krugerrands.  For wired funds, not credit card.

Pretty much all the time.


(I switched from Apmex bec they charged much more over spot)


Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:40 | 1475975 GoinFawr
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" ask for the spread if you think of it, next time. what is his buy price, too..."

Old sales ploy: When you're buying go in like you're selling, and when you're selling walk in like you're buying.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:09 | 1475531 caerus
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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:13 | 1475549 gwar5
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It's gonna take 20 years post-crash USA to crawl out of it. We will be the first de-devoloped nation. Mad Max, bitchez.

Way out now is to cut all the bullshit out of spending and entitlements, a low flat tax, slash regulations, tort reforms across the board, and use all of our domestic energy resources, including coal. Sorry, no more $6000 electric wheelchairs for granny.

Estonia is the model for how it should be done. After the Soviet Union crash they were on their own and buckled down. They have done fantastic and are like a European Singapore. I think they are the richest country in the EU and the world per capita. They did it by implementing all of the above -- except they did it without the energy resources. 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:17 | 1475561 Shameful
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Why would the US crawl out in 20?  If there is to be a recovery that fast then it will be after a shattering of the Union.  If the union holds together then our trajectory will be more akin to the constant falling down ala Argentina.  Least if the union breaks then smaller enclaves can actually have a chance to become productive, not every place will want to be productive.  Otherwise expect to see Americans as the new boat people over the next 50 years.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 07:10 | 1476378 francis_sawyer
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don't forget we have Peggy Jospeh leading us out... Better tack on a couple of decades to your count...

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 21:37 | 1475849 MachoMan
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I was in estonia in 97 and the place was a shithole... the most beautiful women per capita (even besting public southern college towns)... but god was it a shithole.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:45 | 1475998 HungrySeagull
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The women here in the southern college town are too pious and christian to get laid.

Yet there are arrests all around the state for bad things... mmm mmm mmm

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 09:49 | 1476830 MachoMan
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No way bud...  you got quite a few options:

(1) join a frat and the pussy is free [and oft mandated by associated sorrorities, either expressly or impliedly][of course, this will be at the expense of your soul, sanity, and individual identity];

(2) play sports/hit the school gym [try not to drool at the scantily clad "I'm just wearing this thong because it's comfortable" women][intramurals are a good idea too...  hell, who can't play softball or something?];

(3) last call at any bar [for the efficient, this one is for you...  do not show up a second before last call];

(4) carry a fake copy of your trust fund documents to pull the top shelf gold diggers, leave it lying where they can easily find it...  excuse yourself to the bathroom to freshen up so they'll start digging...  you can probably pull non-gold diggers this way too...;

(5) online dating to pull the socially inept women (many are crazy AND sexually frustrated...  for a short period, it is an incredible combination...  just don't get your tires slashed when you drop her cold turkey);

(6) church!  (by her meeting you at church, you've literally knocked out 3/4 of the criteria before she'll drop her pants);

(7) apartment community get togethers/block parties...  how harmful could a neighbor be? right?

(8) work!  you're about to get to the point where about the only place to meet people is at work (post college)...  and trying to socialize all the time is too difficult...  so the lazy way of dating is a work...  just be sure to take a dead end part-time job while in school and rock and roll...  just pick any place where you walk in and there are a bunch of good looking girls working there...  you can probably bag a few of them before they start talking to each other about you...  then it's curtains.

Go to the largest public college with the least stringent entrance requirements...  there is an inverse relationship between cost/entrance requirements and the quality of ass.  There are always exceptions, but this is a good rule of thumb.  Piety is a myth...  and if you're only interested in getting laid, don't waste your time on the ones looking for a wedding ring/courtship...  you gotta hit those up after they get out of college and get desperate watching their biological clocks tick...  but, see #5 above for risks.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 01:55 | 1476246 CompassionateFascist
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Estonia is a Nordic, not Slavic country. As usual, Race rules.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:16 | 1475556 Walter E Kurtz
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In Soviet Russia, banks bail out you!


Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:18 | 1475562 caerus
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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:35 | 1475600 Rodent Freikorps
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We win the war, and lose the peace.

Par for the course.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:28 | 1475723 Gromit
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The analogy is accurate. Our iron grip on the world's economy (specifically energy pricing) depends on the invincibility

of our aircraft carrier groups.


But my preferred analogy is the Death Star.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:47 | 1476006 HungrySeagull
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Carriers is refighting world war two. They will sink just as well as any other ship. The problem is, our Enemies and the rest of the world are gaining the same resources to build adequate carriers for themselves now.


China can kill one of our Carriers with a very big, fast weapon that will require error free function from our Computers, network and systems to intercept before they crush a Carrier 1000 miles from thier shores. (From Central China which is 2000 miles from carrier launch pad)

Submarine is where it's at, provided you can build enough missiles to feed em. Those metals are not just industrial, they are also stragetic.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:31 | 1475727 OldPhart
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Speaking of

Wall Street Prostitution Rings

Whores arrested included Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner, Barney Frank, Mitch McConnell, Barry Soetoro, Lamar Alexander, Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke and a host of others.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:42 | 1475741 treemagnet
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Fuel wise, I only care about diesel.  So its going down slowly for now - with the Israel/Iran thing about to boil over, peak oil, SPR's, the "other" middle east issues, commodity controls/manipulations courtesy of the CME et al, budget bullshit, euro crisis de jour,, unemployment here/there/everywhere, fuck, you know the this autumns gonna get real - oh yeah, high end prostitution too - can't discount that, anyway - someday, not today, long VIX, cause fundamentals matter. 

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 23:09 | 1476059 HungrySeagull
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Yah, Desiel is King and keeps the Nation rolling on 18 wheels.

Stop that fuel and there will be HELL to pay within a few days.

30 years ago we raged against 2.00 desiel and got 5 mpg. Now we look into the abyss of 5.00 desiel and the possibility of 10+ dollars for still about 6 to 8 mph depending on where in the USA you are.


It used to take 9 months to get to San Fran from Philly before the roads were built. The trains was where it's at back then. Now it's more profitable to haul toilet paper or boxes of china imports west to east than it is to haul you and me.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 20:45 | 1475746 jakethesnake76
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My buddy says we are becoming Russia and they are becoming USA , now i just seen a chart that proves it ....

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:50 | 1476011 HungrySeagull
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Not too far from the truth.

Hell the UK has cameras everywhere now and no guns allowed. And they still slit each other during crime just the same.


I saw a document where chips will be placed onto trash collection bins at every home in a city on the east coast where the contents will be measured, weighed and so forth for data tracking. It is theoratically possible now to identify which home is the most wasteful.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 23:00 | 1476041 GoinFawr
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Time to bring back the coin operated electrics!

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 04:35 | 1476302 Edward Fiatski
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Tell your buddy they will meet in the middle. :) That was the plan all along.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 02:39 | 1476269 Peter K
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I guess it's easy to shit on everything.

But I guess if one is a leftist, with all the epic failure baggade that goes with that 'religion', then cynicism is the only fig leaf left.

How sad;)

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 04:02 | 1476295 Azannoth
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In Russia they have a Flat income tax of 13% and a max corporate tax of 20% imagine that! The old commies

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 04:34 | 1476301 Edward Fiatski
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And that pretty much kept the country alive, but the IR is ~15% AFAIK - they refused to participate in the sovereign bond Ponzi scheme. (Or were refused by the market outright after their '98 default)


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