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Presenting The Latest Digitalglobe Satellite Photo Of Fukushima, As Thermal Imaging Continues To Be Top Secret
According to the latest Digitalglobe overflight, the situation in Reactor 4 continues to deteriorate. We wonder where precisely in the Reactor 1,3, and 4 wreckage are the working water pumps that are about to be electrified? Far more importantly, since heat appears to be the biggest issue, why have no thermal or IR photos been released to the public, and most importantly why is the Japanese government actively covering up thermal data? From the JPost: "As the world continues to gaze with concern at Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant, hi-tech security cameras installed by an Israeli defense firm are recording events at the troubled core from an insider’s vantage point. The Arava-based Magna BSP company, which specializes in producing and installing stereoscopic sensory and thermal imaging cameras, had been contracted to place cameras around one of the plant’s six cores – the core that has been experiencing explosions and overheating. Speaking to The Jerusalem Post on Monday, Magna’s head, Haim Siboni, said the thermal cameras also had the ability to detect the presence of radioactive clouds in the air, but added that Magna had not been able to gain access to the images recorded by the cameras at this time." Stunningly not even the contractor is allowed to see its own recorded data: "Although Magna is able to gain remote access to its computer system,
which receives the cameras’ images, Siboni said his company had not yet
been authorized to do so. “We have not been allowed to take control remotely yet,” Siboni said." Surely the classified data must be perfectly normal if the completely discredited Japanese government is keeping it under such tight lock and seal.
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ZH seems to run out of bad news now, so the market should tank soon.
Who actually believes there's anything of the cooling system, as it could legitimately be described, left in working condition of any kind, even assuming the remote possibility they are able to get power hooked up?
It's ridiculous.
jeeeez, TIS! why tf doncha just dial 1-800-H-O-M-E-L-N-D and report yerself 4 pete's sake?
In Japan or here?
lol! it's toll free! you'll prob get our friend patel!
If we were to listen to some of the posters here, we'd think that if you just mist everything down with a little water, all will be well.
My assessment is that there are probably very few plumbing lines of any kind approaching working-order. The electrical systems are almost assuredly gone, and so are the control rooms. The place is a disaster zone, with intense radiation inhibiting what the engineers want to do, and there is little that can be done without sacrificing many many lives in the process. They will pump in water using firehoses and perhaps other means, but it will be like pissing on a fire of unimaginable heat. I sincerely hope they get lucky and manage to get water where it is needed without causing further complications, but I have a bad feeling about this...
picky, picky, picky. intelligent, also... i figure if they use distilled water, the benefits could be multiples greater!
While we're all trying to see through the obfuscation, TPTB are busily getting to "safe ground," whatever they think that means. Southern Hemisphere is my guess. Almost every satellite in orbit has been constructed, launched, maintained, and controlled by TPTB, purportedly for the security of the "people," who have only had the "privilege" of paying for these incredibly expensive government-subsidized technologies, while being excluded from any of the benefits of the data produced by them. Obviously TPTB are more interested in keeping the rabble in line than in any dissemination of actual truth and facts. They learned from 9/11: thermal images may be used against you in the court of public opinion.
The root problem here is "authorities" and the entire concept of authority.
http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf
Very good points. Google Georgia Guidestones and draw your own conclusions.
THANK YOU for the book link. Promises to be a most interesting read.
A good read... excerpt:
Source:http://rense.com/general93/naga.htm
All information is dis-information at this point. What will you believe. Your lying eyes?
ORI
https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/axis-trembles/
Oh. Yeah. Wind farms. And when the wind dies down for a couple of days everybody can just put civilization on hold. It would be like a tsunami every couple of months without the loss of eqpt. Surviable - to be sure. Profitable? Doubtful.
Would love to hear your definition of civilization.
hi, MSimon!
ORI didn't mention any wind farms. you must be pre-cognitive!
A few updates if I may be so bold;
"sea to glowing sea"
land of the fee and home of the slave.
Thank you for your time.
:-) I always look at people who say things like, you HAVE to have power and wonder.
The last 100 years have been the finest in our known history? Hardly.
Power mad, in every way.
Incidentally, having been a part of some crazy, zero-point, "free" energy groups, thsi is what I came to understand, a tiny quote, this back from September last year:
Japan…. living a Perpetual Nuclear Sunrise in the aftermath of WWII. Supplied on the cheap by it’s master, nuclear energy meant the lights could stay on 24/7. The factories could produce 24/7. You could build bridges to nowhere for decades, 24/7. You could party 24/7.
Machines, even giant, electricity sucking robots on giant assembly lines, could run 24/7. Driving it to it’s current export behemoth position.
Power 24/7 ruined Japan. It became a mechanized and mechanistic nation. They exist like automatons. Hive-mind at it’s zenith. Always living in 50/60 Hz. 24/7.
Japan could choose to be in-efficient (on the big picture) and still out-sell their competition on price. Their power was virtually free. Cost is a monetary expression of embedded energy. Viola!
But Japanese people are like Machines. Except for carefully crafted social etiquette, they have no concept of spontaneous combustion. They live in their free-energy produced gadgetry and other consumer oriented wizardry, purposeless. It’s a really sad sight, especially for someone like me, who has studied and learned much from Old Japan (Zen and Budo especially). It’s gone except in an over maintained facade… Just like Japan.
You can read the rest here:
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-curse-of-free-energy/
ORI
This will cause doomers some nausea, but CNN just reported power restored to #5 and pumps operative. First piece of good news in a week. #6 will follow shortly.
The SERIOUS question that need be posed right now is...was #5 without power all this time? If so, how did they maintain cooling on the reactors? Did they have emergency generation circulating #5?
More importantly, was the cooling loop on #5's SFP operating this entire time?
Neither 5 nor 6 were in operation is my understanding. Their SFPs were recording moderate temperature increases but not to the point of boiling off the water.
Seemed like those two buildings made it through the EQ + tsunami better. They are also the newest so it's possible they have better safety systems.
redpill---i think you are correct in that 5&6 (4, too?) were not producing electric at the time of the quake and tsunami. and yes, a 4-bagger would be preferable to a 6-bagger, for sure!
something worked on day #9? i'll wait to rejoice, ok?
i am wondering how many nuclear plants are still operating in japan, right now. anybody know?
Screw the 'doomer' references. There are realists, and there's you, who's been consistently wrong on technical matters and projected outcomes since hour one. You're batting close to .000, in fact. 2, 3 and 4 are far more important than 5 and 6 anyways, and they don't even know if there's any cooling system infrastructure left in the less scathed 5 & 6, which weren't even in operation at the time of the quake, but had SFRs stored within.
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/world/asia/19japan.html
Hottest rods were not in SFP's 5 & 6, and least damage there. Realistically 4 is the greatest concern.
5 & 6 originally had a backup diesel generator each. After the tsunami, 5's generator was cactus. They reported being able to use the one remaining diesel generator to support cooling for both 5 & 6. Given the slow reported rate of rise in the temperature of SFPs at 5 & 6, I'm guessing that the one generator didn't have enough power to run all the pumps all the time. Or maybe it failed at some point and we never heard of it.
Anyway, some good news. What a change.
Now keep fingers crossed that the radiation at 5-6 blowing from 1-4 doesn't get too high for people to stay and keep an eye on things.
Reuters:
Reactors 5 and 6 at quake-stricken Dai-ichi nuke plant being cooled by pumps powered by emergency diesel generators - NISA
Water spraying begins over Fukushima reactor No. 3 to prevent meltdown at Dai-ichi plant - Kyodo
This article is pure garbage. What's the use of having an infrared imager aside from advertising & profitting a company's product in a middle of a crisis?
For your info, Japan makes the world's most advanced IR imaging devices in the world and they are sold worldwide....including the US military.
Jewish propaganda....Is zerohedge a jewish site?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4glquMRJLF8
what you have to do is get people from left and right, that hate ea other, to both agree to end the fed. and take a page out the africans book, meet up 1 million strong at the fed building and burn the fucker down.
Easy, the public left hates the idea of hurting the poor and middle class, hates war, that is what the Fed does best. The public right hates excess spending and debt, created by the Fed. There is no disagreement here. Disagreements are manufactured by the state media which are trivial in comparison.
Or fill it with used fuel rods then entomb it in concrete. More symbolic. The place is a paper breeder reactor. What's the LD50 for FED notes?
Ahhhh... it's raining here in Sydney Oz. Very badly needed indeed.
I found a chart that compares number of aftershocks for the historical earthquake along Japan Tranch. It's from a local newspaper in Tohoku. It reminds me of excess reserves at the Fed right after lehman..
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/japan-earthquake-262-aftershocks-m5-o...
Libya airforce plane shot down
http://dawnwires.com/politics/a-libyan-airforce-jet-shot-down-over-banghazi/
Libya airforce plane shot down
http://dawnwires.com/politics/a-libyan-airforce-jet-shot-down-over-banghazi/
Wonder if it was a 40 year-old Mig-21 or a thirty five year-old Mirage?
Gadaffi must have seen the "Nuclear Tsumani" as a godsend - all western media switching coverage from Libya. Now the media (certainly in the UK) is switching back to Libya. Wondering about the timing of this.
Thoughts still with those in Japan and Libya
Thermal imaging. Heck look at the brown foliage forming, near the sat. chart bottom.
Wild guess.
The hole in turbine hall 3. Surely not caused by a circular piece of the steel containment when #3 blew??
No way of knowing of course.
Here is Oppenheimer himself, the überengineer, recalling how he was reciting the Hindu Bhagavad Gita when he realized that his atom bomb had worked.
Extremely moving stuff:
“If the radiance of a thousand suns /
were to burst into the sky /
that would be like /
the splendor of the Mighty One
and I now am become Death,
the destroyer of worlds.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x39eRJA1aVU&feature=related
Here is Oppenheimer himself, the überengineer,
recalling how he was reciting the Hindu Bhagavad Gita when he realized
that his atom bomb had worked.
Extremely moving stuff:
“If the radiance of a thousand suns /
were to burst into the sky /
that would be like /
the splendor of the Mighty One
and I now am become Death,
the destroyer of worlds.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x39eRJA1aVU&feature=related
Japan's cabinet secretary just announced the operation "Pouring Water in Non-Existent Pool of Reactor 3" has been successful. Extend and pretend.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-edano-claims.html
Surely this is a major clusterfuck for the Japanese economy no matter how much money is poured into it. People have stopped working in Tokyo.
So its almost as bad as Madison, Wi.
Look at the trees in top left corner, brown trees = High Radiation scorching
Japanese government has been sitting on a near-real time video of the nuke plant from the US military drones. What else are they hiding?
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-japanese_19.html
They are hiding the thermal images.
AND the thermal images. Actually, can you name one useful image the Japanese government _has_ released? Please don't count that piece of paper with a view of #4 that they held up briefly for the video cameras in a press conference.
Oh wait, and there was the 'heli shakey-cam' footage, which was pathetic.
It's unfathomable. This is JAPAN... and the government can't even manage to put up a website to publish information? I know expecting Gundams was fanciful, and even waiting for small camera and hose-pulling robots may have been overly hopeful, but a website...?
They are terrified of:
massive core meltdown
being punished for incompetence
being punished for lying
being blamed for others' suffering
spending the rest of their days in prison
that they can barely function as human beings. They are lucky to be able to squirt some water and remain vertical. I am trying to find some compassion, but it's not easy. I've fucked up, but never on a scale like this.
Hari Kari in order.
My Texan friend had it right. She said "Shoot them."
The zionist conspiracy trolls are going to have a field day with this.
how could anyone think for a moment that such duplicity and secrecy could serve the rothschild cabal, central bankster interests, or the mossad network of nation-puppetry?
A 5.9 between Fukushima and Tokyo.
Is 5.9 bad?
http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/map_detail.php?id=99779
i would tend to think not, Lord, given what is left standing at this point. i imagine that, after 8-9 daze, the "oh! there's another one!" reaction is pretty played out, too...
Keep track of the latest quakes here
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
Not even.
While it may be difficult to fully comprehend it is a clear conflict of interest and a data/system integrity issue to allow the producer of instrumentation to install it, the installer to maintain it, and for any of them to have access to the aggregated data.
Well I'm sure it will be okay if we make some exceptions in order to streamline things.
And so do I.
But it seems that the mainstream press could care less.
Last night’s news/analysis program:
Interviewer: Can they get the situation under control?
Guest Expert: Once they get the power line connected, it’s all automatic; it’s an automated process; you get the power back on and the plant takes care of itself.
Is that right? In those blowout structures? Do these people have minds inside their pinheads?
And the interviewer didn’t even blink. He went directly on to ask about a local plant of the same design.
Interviewer: Is Garoña safe?
Expert: Absolutely.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
There is no doubt in my mind that the “powers to be” do not want the average person to have any idea what-so-ever as to what’s really happening, or what COULD HAPPEN IN ANY NUCLEAR POWER PLANT (or what the real operating costs are for that matter . . . leaving aside possible disaster costs . . .).
Let’s see. Maybe I’ll be the first on this one. Fukushima Daiichi will mark the before and after point in the history of nuclear power. Those who have invested in nuclear power are going to take heavy losses. There’s a rumor of a top secret internal document in Germany that proposes new regulatory requirements for ALL nuclear power plants that would be so onerous in terms of cost that the viability of nuclear power under the proposed plan would basically be zero. (Not a bad idea really to factor in all costs – including decommissioning costs – into the PL analysis.)
Precisely.
Also, note that in many cases TPTB do not know what is really happening.
Nope, you're not the first. Many people spotted that this marks the end of nuclear power. Including me on Sat 12th as video of the first explosion hit the net. http://www.zgeek.com/content.php/6719-8.8-Quake-his-Japan-massive-tsunam... "You know this is the end of nuclear power? And likely with it, the end of the industrial age. This isn't going to be fun at all. Seven billion people. "
Video of a nuclear reactor blowing up - that's a fatal blow to this beast. If followed by an endless nightmare of global-scale contamination, and the ruin of Japan (which has to be the most chibi of all nations) - we're watching the nuclear power beast having it's head cut off and body quartered. Power shortage? Doesn't matter. Nuclear is dead.
It was amusing listening to the apologists shrieking in rage at the suggestion then. They are getting much quieter now.
Not that disagree in the slightest with your rationale, brother, but from what I'm seeing in the media there are interests out there who have other plans that don't include stopping or slowing the growth of nuclear power.
For every voice calling this an epic catastrophe, I see multiple voices making happy talk about how this is really just a blip in history that was caused by extraordinary circumstances and it's really not all that horrific and on and on....
Frankly, I don't have much faith that a sane response to this fucking horror is going to spring from these amber waves of grain.
Yes, it will be much safer now for the next generation.
All new designs tested to destruction might work. But it is 15 or 20 years of research away. If we start today.
It may turn out that all the reactors held and all the radiation danger is coming from the 600,000 spent fuel rods stored on-site. If that turns out to be the case, it will be an argument for nuclear power, not against. Biggest natural disaster in Japan's history and the nuclear plants survived it will be the sales pitch. And it will be correct.
The problem with nuclear power is less the reactors themselves and more what to do with all of the nuclear waste that will be life-threatening for thousands of years.
Magnitude 6.1 off Honsh
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_35.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
clik the large blue square
Can someone please tell me where in this picture the backup generators were?
It looks to me like this plant is built below grade, carved into the hill closer to sea level.
Probably a design to minimize visibility of the plant. Please dear mother of God, don't f**kin tell me that the environmentalists made them put this plant down in a ditch near the sea in this earthquake, tsunami ridden country!
Also, look around at the trees and other buildings. What really got damaged by the tsunami?
Could it be that the ONLY thing really damaged by the tsunami waves was the CRITICAL backup generators!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalglobe-imagery
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5526481182_138657774b_o.jpg 20110314
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5214/5530841229_c5880c5052_o.jpg 20110316 oblique view
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5296/5535116638_0a067c07f1_o.jpg 20110317 overhead view
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5537297305_207bd7d9bf_o.jpg 20110318
In the 20110317 image, observe the inclined road up to the top of the hill at top right. You can see the mud-line on the road surface indicating how far the water level rose at the rear of the plant. Looks about 2 to 3 meters deep.
In the images showing the seaward side of the turbine halls, notice the two big roller doors are pushed in. They were like that immediately after the tsunami, before any of the explosions. So the turbine hall and any basements it has, flooded. One NHK report showed a diagram claiming the diesel generators were in the basement of the turbine halls.
Also it was mentioned the diesel fuel tanks washed away. Comparing photos, here's a before & after: http://everist.org/pics/Fukushima/Fukushima_fuel_tanks.jpg
Well, they pulled all your links except for the Diesel tank photo. Nice how they placed the fuel farm right on the docks. Back-up generators don't work to good when there's NO FUCKING FUEL.
Terra, thanks. Great spot on the tank in the street. What f*&ked up design that was.
Did you happen to download the photos from flickr? If so, please post here.
And yes, it is really un-f*&kin-believable one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world would have overlooked such a simple design vulnerability. Unreal.
Ha, of COURSE I saved the images. You don't think I trust the things to stay visible?
Actually, Digital Globe does still have them at those links and you can get to them via their flickr index page. Keep clicking on the image till you get the 'sizes' menu, then select 'original'.
They seem to have blocked hot linking though. I've put my saved copies here:
http://everist.org/pics/Fukushima/DG_sat_images/
J-fucking-post. [rolls eyes]
Can someone supply the IP's at Fukushima Daiichi so we can sniff around a little to try to locate Magna’s VPN connection to the cameras?
Looks like the do-no-harm boys have wiped that data out also.
This probably won't help. Good luck.
--- TEPCO website & webcams
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/index-j.html Main site, includes status indicators for their reactors. :(
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/index-j.html The Fukushima Daiichi plant. News update pdf's, all in Japanese
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html Webcam. Was working on 15th, not on 16th. On 18th, had a very pretty blue sky, no smoke still image every time I looked.
Routed through Tepco of course. TY.
Primo routing info harvested from inside .jp
http://www.harenet.ad.jp/hareonly/trace.htm
Radiation Forecast: Monday Eve NE Wind directly at Tokyo!
Wind Continues all week out of N and NE per weather.com toward Metro Tokyo.
This may be the Week that Tokyo closes for next 120 Years due to Cesium 137 "Snow Storm".
I hope the winds are too light to reach Tokyo...lets pray for some luck.
Maybe I'm imagining this, but does anyone else see the Masonic symbols on the north side of buildings 1 and 7? There might be more to this than THEY are telling us. Also, why aren't the Japanese "engineers" utilizing Google maps to assess the situation on the ground, as clearly much more information can be gleaned this way. Is it because google is American technology? Don't tell me this could have beeN AVOIDED IF IT WASN'T FOR NATIONALIST PRIDE!!! omg, I'm really getting scared now!
They have done the weeping perp walk and it is back to business as usual. I think they are continuing with the attitude of saving or rebuilding on as much land as possible.
I think it is safe to assume the cores will show up as hot, but more than what they are letting on. What they will not be able to do is cover the scope of heat, I am guessing some of those pellets and rods traveled a mile with those blasts.
I also have a feeling some company in Japan just paid a shitload of money to a PR firm. They are hard at work with slogans like "want to feel sleepy? no need to wait to warm our milk" or "come for our year round heated beaches". They could rework the Ramones with "Gamma Gamma Hey".
This is not directed at the feet on the ground or the citizens in the dark. This is to shine a little light and maybe throw a little heat on the bureaucrats and TPTB reducing everything to a debit/credit column.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Tds5d-ApU&feature=player_embedded
Interesting. From the amount of small rubble still lying around, it's clear no one is prepared to get out of the vehicles. Can't blame them.
But, in all of Japan, isn't there one bulldozer with an airtight cabin?
They should ask the Israelis, who seem to have a wide variety of armored bulldozers. Though it would probably involve a high rate rental deal rather than gift.
No sound in that video? Too revealing, to let people hear a counter roaring, and the guys saying "holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck can we leave now?"
It would be nice to know the locations of the sensors. Looks like they are just cooling around them rather than getting water in pool to cool.
It looks like the pump building and the water piping to the reactors looks intact. If in fact it is the supply to the buildings and not the return. There is some chunk of debris on it near the 4 reactor but it shouldn't be a problem.
TOKYO, March 19, Kyodo
Slight amounts of radioactive iodine have been detected in tap water in Tokyo, its vicinity and most prefectures neighboring Fukushima apparently due to the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the government said Saturday.
While the substance was found in Tochigi, Gunma, Niigata, Chiba and Saitama prefectures as well as Tokyo, traces of cesium have also been found in tap water in two of them -- Tochigi and Gunma, the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology said, adding their levels do not affect human health even if they are taken in.
Among them, Tochigi, Gunma and Niigata border Fukushima Prefecture.
In Maebashi, Gunma, 2.5 becquerels of iodine and 0.38 becquerel of cesium were detected Friday per kilogram of water, the prefectural government said, adding it is the first time the substances were found since it began testing tap water for radioactive materials in 1990.
The Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan limits an intake of iodine at 300 becquerels per kilogram of water and of cesium at 200 becquerels.
==Kyodo
Kitazawa: Reactors surface temperatures below 100C
Japan's Defense Minister says the surface temperatures of the 4 damaged reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are lower than 100 degrees Celsius.
Toshimi Kitazawa told a news conference in Tokyo on Saturday that water-spraying proved to be effective in cooling down the temperature of the spent fuel rod pool of the No.3 reactor.
He said SDF officials measured the temperatures while observing the damage from a helicopter.
Kitazawa said the government's disaster task force reports that a temperature of less than 100 degrees Celsius shows the reactors are more stable than had been expected.
He said Prime Minister Naoto Kan directed him to extensively collect and thoroughly analyze the data from the reactor.
He also said he will continue the assessment on Sunday.
Kitazawa said he believes the sprayed water is filling the spent fuel rod pool to a significant degree.
Saturday, March 19, 2011 19:15 +0900 (JST)
quite reassuring...NOT!...
We have a firm grip on the angry dragon's tail.
Guys, do not believe ANYTHING ANY government tells you, including, but not limited to our own Obamatron...
Okay, I was mistaken, nothing to see here folks, move along now ..
Attention please.
The MiB agent would like you to look this way.
FLASH.
The explosion you heard was swamp gas ignited by a sonic boom from the International Space Station as it passed over Japan.
Everything is OK.
Go back about your normal activities.
Thank you.
Have a nice day.
just pathetic! but not totally unredeemed by amusement value, 7777, my friend.
peace.
You like that ... LOL ... it was funny ... the 'move along' part anyway ...
I'm not understanding all of the armchair quarterbacking, thermal questions re: various buildings 1-6. I had the misfortune to take 4 years of radiation physics to make a living including the dreaded "What to do when nuked". It's TIME/DISTANCE/SHIELDING. Given that the plant is leaking and that the isotopes spewed off have half-lifes of 30- 2000 years, I would get the fuck out of Japan.
As we are big plasma bags, I would not want to expose me and mine to low level contamination for weeks/months/years in air/surface contamination/food. Iosat protects only slightly against I131 as you drive/fly away screaming from the source.
If this thing does "Chernobyl" I would expect to see more leukemias in the coming years on the West Coast.
On a more paranoid note, I will drive my car for 10 more years and do "acceptance testing" on the next one. Also no more new iCrap, for a while.
of course! you understand everything! QEsucks = kenny stabler? you can't fool slewie!
and when you write: If this thing does "Chernobyl" (emphasis mine) the subtle, yet elegant understatement is not lost on these fuking shitheaded asswipes, either!
reuters has a video of water spraying on what looks like 3. first I've seen.
and they report they've put holes in top of 5 and 6 to help stop explosions.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2
yes, one look at this photo and i think any
reasonable layman would conclude these nuclear
reactors are ready to receive remote power /
be fired up.
disclaimer: i have no actual experience inspecting,
designing or regulating nuclear reactors in any responsible
way.
ps. the great, or horrible, thing about mankind is his
infinite need and capacity to deny and create an
alternate reality, to never
admit defeat, even into the grave. these alternate
realities require some ignorance of data and the
prohibition of certain perspectives and perceptions,
small price to pay to maintain the clear and beautiful
radiant mind we are so blessed to enjoy, thank you barbara.
this is what happens when the media, government and
"leadership" don't let the adults into the room to participate
in the conversation.
I have some first hand experience dealing with the Japanese way of admitting failure and saving face, which is a very ingrained cultural ritual that requires strict adherence to accepted protocol. You must never assume that the truth of the message or righteousness of the messenger lends one to violate tradition.
In my case, we provided analytical support to a subordinate (child) division directed by the government (grandparent) to perform a root cause analysis of unacceptable levels of lot sampling test failures for units manufactured by the main (parent) corporation. It was easier to identify the problem than it was to present the results. In Japan, a child does not critique or correct a parent, and when the parent must be corrected it must be done which allows them not to lose respect of the grandparent and child. In essence, they must be led to realize that it was their idea to change, with everyone agreeing that they were very wise in their decision.
The more control TEPCO has of details of this disaster, the less mistakes they will have to be led to accept.
TerraHertz got me thinking about the backup generators and the fuel tank placement.
I THINK THE FUKUSHIMA PLANT DID NOT MOVE THE FUEL TANKS OUT OF THEIR VULNERABLE LOCATION ON THE DOCKS BY THE WATER IN VIOLATION OF REGULATIONS.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND WOULD EXPLAIN A LOT ABOUT THEIR COVERUPS AFTER THE QUAKE/TSUNAMI AND GENERATOR FAILURE DUE TO FUEL TANK DESTRUCTION/DISPLACEMENT.
Check out this photo below from the other quake damaged nuke plant , Dai-Ni. Notice the fuel tanks are way up on a hill as far away from the water as they can be on the site (i think, others who know can confirm). One place they surely are not is on the dock where the fuel tanks for backup generators were at Fukushima!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalglobe-imagery/5521497971/in/photostream/
Compare that to Fukushima here:
http://everist.org/pics/Fukushima/Fukushima_fuel_tanks.jpg
The tanks at Fukushima were vulnerable obviously. But Dai-Ni, not so much. The history of lies, cover-ups and just plain laziness of TEPCO would make me suspect that the fuel tanks for the backup generators were not ever supposed to be in such a vulnerable location.
That certainly would put things in a different light, if there was some regulatory requirement to have the fuel tanks away from the sea frontage. Anyone know of such a regulation?
Looking at the Dai Ni image, I'm guessing the two big tanks on top of the hill are water, and the three smaller tanks to the NE of them are the fuel tanks. Maybe the building adjacent to the fuel tanks houses the backup diesels?
But... we're told that at Dai Ni, one of the two diesels was damaged by the tsunami. Where are they, that one got damaged and the other didn't?
Putting the Dai-ichi emergency backup diesels in the basement of the turbine halls is a really stupid design choice too. Given that bad things can happen in turbine halls.
Of all the failures to provide information, the absence of detailed site maps disturbs me the most. It's not like anyone might want to go and infiltrate the place, so it smells like 'something to hide'.
we the inhabitants
of the planet earth ...
demand you show us
the thermal pictures...
so we can figure out
just what the fck is going on ..
What I love about ZH. Ask and ye shall receive, or at least Team Durden will raise a little hell in the right quarters. Well done.
Chenobyl was over and done with rather quickly and alot of men, equiptment etc was used up and tossed aside to sit in radioactive peace until they oxide back to the earth due to rust or whatever.
What is the hold up with Japan's solution to this accident?
Sure I would imagine they are working on it, but it's been damn near two weeks now and nothing really constructive has happened towards stemming and shutting off the flow of radiation and heat into the sky.
Remember that the United State's Breadbasket is moving towards planting time for the autumn corn and what have you crops all kinds from the west coast all the way east. I don't want to see that soil get irradiated to grow crops that cannot be eaten.
Maybe a private citizen can buy a Heat/Ir/Night Trijicon scope (Pretty expensive) and grab a ocean going vessal and get within eye shot of the Plant from upwind and get something to look at before being chased away I would imagine.
Video released by Japan's Defense Ministry of their dousing operation on Reactor 3. And they think this has been a success. In what? In getting exposed to radiation unnecessarily, I guess.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-ministry-of_19...
An antiquated thread from yesterday! NEWS real time.