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Total proof of complete insano markets that there even exists a 'double inverse levered 3x-12th power ultra short VIX ETF'....WTF?? LULZ.
Do they trade weekly options yet?
If you like stuff like that, in Las Vegas they have a Lottery EVERY 10 MINUTES!
And the chart STILL looks horrendous. When does short vol become too easy? never?
So this is a double bottom buy recommendation?
LET'S ALL TRANSFER THE KIDS COLLEGE FUNDS AND PLAY!!
and if everything goes bad the kids can always take on a student loan for the next 50 year after graduation...
Tvix as a hedging instrument is just fine thank you. Just a little dab will do ya! These double and triple etfs make for cheap insurance but they are widowmakers if you use them to speculate.
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I don't even know what a double levered VIX EFT is, but this article is hilarious.
Praise Mao and may the Bernanke devalue your life savings.
I won't trade this. I am going to wait for Direxion to make a 3X leveraged ETF based on the movement of TVIX.
You are probably waiting until they allow options trading in the 5th vol derivative ETF
Im waiting for the inverse options on those.
I'm waiting on an inverse 3x ETF on Paul Krugman
No I'm waiting for "class" and speaker fees from the scamway, winning big in the 5th vol deritive ETF market. Available for streaming in the cloud with no traceable evidence.
Sure. Just as soon as options become marginable and I can get 100 to 1.
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A perfect short. Are shares available for shorting?
Only when there's a 99.99% certainty that it will go up :)
Yesterday I was looking for BAC put warrants. Only 1 available and about 50 call warrants for every date.
It was pretty clear that I should go short so to speak :)
The short is TVIZ
On that original post http://www.zerohedge.com/article/presenting-tvix-double-leveraged-invers... I proposed a paper trade to short the double long VIX ETF and short the double inverse VIX ETF betting that would make money by January. Well it turns out that there actually isn't a double inverse VIX ETF (I don't think) and using 2x leverage to sell short the XIV doesn't take advantage of the inherent evil mechanics of having leverage inside the ETF/ETN itself.
The XIV performance (in this period - since about the end of November) is just about the mirror image of the TVIX even though the TVIX is 2x leveraged and the XIV uses no leverage.
So the motivating strategy - that leveraged ETFs tend to go down - still seems solid, at least here. The better tactic would have been shorting the doomed (and leveraged) TVIX while plowing some/all of the short sale procedes into the inverse (but not leveraged) XIV. Now that would have been a trade.
I think it is time to retire my handle...
Politically incorrect to say the least. If you worked for NPR, you would have been fired already.
I tried FAZ in a small batch last month, seeing that it was absurdly low considering the fact that banks were losing lawsuits, stuck with toxics and overall ripe to be exposed to Europe.
Even when BA lost a lawsuit again, FAZ went up like 8 cents. And continues to drop to zero.
Obviously, these ETFS do not correspond to anything they are supposed to and basically leak money over time until they are recharged or liquidated.
ETFs are a great way for big banks who insider trade to make instant money in short term trades. They also can extract( steal) money from non-insiders in a New York millisecond. Great video posted here on how both levered up and down ETFs just lose money. In fact the only way to make money on a levered ETF is to go long on a short position. Over time it will go strAight to zero or get closed.
So, why bother, thats the game for the big boy pickpockets. I'm going long gold and junior miners as the classic countercyclical asset classes in a depression. Its been working fine and I don't even trade anymore as all traders have been forced out due to manipulation, disinterest or flat out getting mugged
Actually, FAZ does exactly what it is supposed to do. It just doesn't do what an average person thinks it would do.
First FAZ is tied to the Russell 1000 Financial Services Index and BAC is only a small part of the index.
Second, FAZ's goal is to every day generate 3X the daily result of the index. You need to understand the math of using leverage. 3X the result of an index every day doesn't equal 3X the index over a longer period. If there is much volatility, it means less, and if there is a lot of volatility, a lot less.
When they get close to ZERO they do a "TILPS" (reverse SPLIT) so it can get closer to zero.
Ive thought about going all out on double etfs that mirror my basic portfolio but it appears sadly there is no free lunch and even though modeled volatility is about the same the geometric mean return is the same distribution. I would have thought a well diversified portfolio might get some extra juice by substituting double etfs. Can anyone explain that? Maybe my math is wrong but i.doubt it....a puzzle for the quants.
Leveraged ETFs use swaps and other derivatives to achieve the leverage they seek. You'll find they often don't follow the index or asset in the long term because they aim to double/triple the daily movements, not the monthly or yearly movements. Combine that with a higher expense ratio due to the more complicated and active management, and you have your answer. These ETFs can be useful to compound large daily losses or gains in the underlying index/asset they follow, but don't expect them to track the index or whatever over the long term.
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No one wants FRN's.
Nice... Keep up the great work Benny!! Taking away the very last thing this country had going for it.
Spy VIX pair trade is a bubble. The reverse trade will be nice. Could be soon. 5% on the reverse today
I'm waiting for TD's call on the SP going green at the close.
If somebody created an ETF of all levered ETF's I'd bet it would never have an up day.
Sounds like a short squeeze play now. Elvis has left the building... thank you, thank you very much
With the VIX at 16.50 nobody cares...
This TVIX is nothing but a short term(1-3days) play, who holds it for longer is TOAST! Made almost 5 bucks on that crap in 2 days!!! Thats how you do it! Get IN and then GET OUT!
I'm waiting for a triple inverse ETF on all Goldman Conviction Buys.
Just brought up a chart of the TVIX vs it's "inverse" TVIZ. One's down 30%, the other 60%. Now to find shares to "borrow".
How does this work? $VIX is up +9.07% and TVIX is up +10.81% thats not 2x. That's WTF?
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