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Putin Blasts "Defective And Flawed" Libyan Air Strikes, Compares Them To An "Oil Crusade", Cautions US Against Interference In Other Countries' Affairs

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Yesterday it was the Arab League... today it is the country which arguably has the biggest oil reserves in the world - Russia. And they both are very pissed at what is increasingly seen by the word as an unholy oil crusade, headed by Sarkozy, but with the US and UK not far behind. Per Reuters, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Monday likened the U.N. Security Council resolution supporting military action in Libya to medieval calls for crusades. Well, when your gasoline is $9/gallon a crusade surely sounds like the politically responsible thing to do. Especially if in the process one can get on the Nobe peace prize nominations list.

From Reuters:

Putin, in the first major remarks from a Russian leader since a coalition of Western countries began air strikes in Libya, said that Muammar Gaddafi's government fell short of democracy but added that did not justify military intervention.

"The resolution is defective and flawed," Putin told workers at a Russian ballistic missile factory. "It allows everything. It resembles medieval calls for crusades."

Putin said that interference in other countries' internal affairs has become a trend in U.S. foreign policy and that the events in Libya indicated that Russia should strengthen its own defence capabilities.

Russia, a veto-wielding permanent Security Council member, abstained from the vote on Thursday in which the council authorised a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" to protect civilians against Gaddafi's forces.

Well, there's talk, and there's action. If Putin believes it is time to switch those at the top of global hegemony, nothing prevents him from finally announcing, in collaboration with China and Germany of course, that the new currency backed by commodities and precious metals, as everyone by now knows is in the making, is finally being floated. That should promptly resolve all concerns of crusades and interference.

 

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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:38 | 1081153 Eric Cartman
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Libya take it! Take our democracy and like it! 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:58 | 1081224 66Sexy
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who put the balls on putin? WTF

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:28 | 1081353 i-dog
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Where the fuck was Putin's concern last Friday when it would have counted? It wss obvious in the wording of the resolution "whatever it takes" (or words to that effect) that the No-Fly Zone bullshit was a con ... they always intended to invade and overthrow the sovereign government -- an illegal act under the UN Constitution.

Another constitution bites the dust in the Anglo-American rush to world enslavement.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:39 | 1081405 Quaderratic Probing
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Guess by not using veto Russia assumed the west would just fly around and keep Kadafy Ducked.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:10 | 1081811 Canucklehead
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...an illegal act under the UN Constitution...

You need to give your head a shake.  Bad Guys don't get to hide behind Good Guys and choose to strike at their citizenry when they feel like it.

Have you noticed there is very little political support/leadership espousing your school of thought.  Hopefully you will notice that the boat has left the dock.  You need to choose.  You can no longer have one foot on the boat and one on the dock.

Take notice... the world has chosen.  The UN has chosen.

...democratic choice...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:18 | 1081835 outamyeffinway
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It's called politics. He let's the West take action and does nothing. When they do he condemns it and calls it a modern day crusade to inflame the Arabs. The more expensive war becomes for the West the quicker they go bankrupt. He was probably dying to roll that one out.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:52 | 1081209 MarketTruth
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<s> #Winning the hearts and minds of the world... one missle at a time </s>

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:54 | 1081216 Eric Cartman
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Does <s> = sarcastic? Do I need to start using this now? 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:03 | 1081252 Yen Cross
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Youbastard! You almost killed Kenny.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:27 | 1081352 Eric Cartman
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I hate Kenny! That poor little bastard dies all the time. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:39 | 1081398 66Sexy
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I've made the connection between 'Kenny' and 'Spinal Tap drummers'.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:41 | 1081678 DaveyJones
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he was just a little green globulol

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:04 | 1081258 BigJim
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It depends on whether you mind being junked by readers who are a bit deficient when it comes to detecting sarcasm.

I don't usually bother, myself.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:28 | 1081359 Eric Cartman
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We didn't always have this problem... 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:55 | 1081959 hbjork1
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We don't have it now.  it is all a fantasy.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:55 | 1081221 SheepDog-One
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'Democracy', The freedom to choose your own pre-selected dictator. 3 wolves and 2 sheep voting on whats for dinner. Etc.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:03 | 1081246 Yen Cross
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You quitting little bitch!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:25 | 1081349 Eric Cartman
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I'm right here! What's up? What's up dog!? 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:10 | 1081274 themosmitsos
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Get your WWiii on. QE3 + QEwar = QEwwiii

Also, that's rather specific & significant language from someone who presents himself as a rather devout Orthodox Christian leader.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:42 | 1081688 DaveyJones
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wwiii fought on wii

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:16 | 1081297 Sudden Debt
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IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WE'LL SOON NEED TO BLAST RUSSIA TO!!

PUTIN'S DICTATORIAL REIGHN MUST END!

 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:25 | 1081340 Yen Cross
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I'm tired this little(jet) bed is anoying.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:31 | 1081373 THE DORK OF CORK
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Let the French march on Moscow.....................

But seriously Putin is just concerned that his near monopoly on central and eastern Europe's oil / gas exports would be threatened by a British / French oil fiefdom in Libya - especially given its large untapped reserves.

A Libya divided into Shell , BP and Total administrated democracies would not be to Russia's liking.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:12 | 1081552 Flakmeister
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Check out

http://www.eia.doe.gov/countries/cab.cfm?fips=LY

Most of Libyan exports go to Europe already, ~11% to China and 14% to small unspecified countries...

Libyan production is already firmly in the hands of the companies you list and their ilk....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:47 | 1081710 THE DORK OF CORK
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Notice the size of the proven reserves - they may want to expand production , also a western friendly fiefdoms may be suitable grounds for French nuclear plants - this will further increase net exports of oil and gas.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:26 | 1081861 Flakmeister
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Yes, no argument on those points...I do think the reserves are somewhat overstated though. Recall the OPEC increases in paper barrels back in the '80s 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:43 | 1081914 Malachi Constant
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Hey, people, it's not junk: it's tomorrow's headlines.

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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:38 | 1081154 Nate H
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Energy is what we have to spend. Money is just who controls the energy (for now).

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:38 | 1081157 Goldenballs
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Its easy to slag other countries off when you do nothing for anyone,lost an empire and cocked everything up,the Russian epitaph.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:05 | 1081256 Stuart
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exactly.  Russia has no lessons or lectures to deliver to anyone.   A tsunami of rebellion sweeps across Arab autocracies as people want a say in the affairs of their government and these freakin' hypocrites on this board come out of the woodwork like cockroaches, failing to miss a beat that we actually picked a side.   Most likely to a person, each of these cretins was quiet as a church mouse over atrocities committed by so-called 'loyalists'.   And now the Arab league says now you weren't supposed to use bombs to implement the no-fly zone.  To the Arab league.. STFU you stupid buggers.  I suppose they thought what, a nasty e-mail and some bad language would do it?   Did they really believe Gadafhi would just lay down and say, ok, I was a bad boy deliberately targeting and butchering civilians.  You caught me and now I will behave.  Give me a freakin' break. Another bunch of manipulative, get some other guy to do our nasty work useless hypocritical buggers.   

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:20 | 1081334 Gene Parmesan
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ok, I was a bad boy deliberately targeting and butchering civilians

 

Not sure how closely you've been following this, but the innocent civilians here are the other side of a civil war. They picked up arms against him, he swatted them down. This is not our (America's) fight.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:46 | 1081703 DaveyJones
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every oily country is "our" war

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:23 | 1081339 tim73
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That is true. These cretins all booyah and giving high fives when USA goes apeshit in Iraq or Afghanistan for whatever dubious reasons. But this time bombing is bad, according to them, when it really counts and prevents killings by the Gaddafi thugs. What a bunch of hypocrites here.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:03 | 1081505 Abitdodgie
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+1

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:14 | 1081563 samsara
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ok, I was a bad boy deliberately targeting and butchering civilians

That would be true for a number of countries in the region.  And Multiple Religions.

Saudi's killing civilians in another country(Bahrain),

Any air strikes on Saudi's?

Israel driving tanks over civilians,   Any air strikes from the US and the Allies on that one?

The game is a little bit more complex than White Hats and Black Hats.   USA USA USA  etc.

Darfur ??   No Oil.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:26 | 1081618 Flakmeister
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Re: Darfur.... The oil of Sudan is recognized to be in the Sino sphere of influence. Quid pro quo for something else....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:15 | 1081302 freedmon
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"you do nothing for anyone,lost an empire and cocked everything up"

 

That equally applies to the UK, and might also soon be the US epitaph too!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:20 | 1081321 johngaltfla
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Especially since the hypocrite's nation could have vetoed or blocked the action in the UN Security Council. Ah well, another day, another lie from a commie.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:41 | 1081164 curbyourrisk
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Hey Putin.... KISS MY AMERICAN ASS.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:54 | 1081218 Stuart
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+1000000000   

Exactly.  The Gadafhi lovers on this board can lick my balls too. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:15 | 1081300 fragrantdingleberry
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Putin ain't no pussy. He got mucho oil. Did he not he be takin it too

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:24 | 1081326 Commander Cody
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Its great to be patriotic, but don't be idiotic.  This "protect the Libyan civilians" ruse is all about getting the oil, plain and simple.  What honor is there in that?  Why should we Americans be proud of that?  Putin is calling it as it is.  Good for him.

And where, who and/or when has one or more of the so-called Libyan liberators elucidated the basis for deposing K-daffy?  What atrocities can be attributed to his reign?  Are there any examples?  Who has this information?  Where can we view it?  While he may be an eccentric looney tune, is it just possible that he's not a bad ruler of his people?  Show me the proof that he is not.  All I hear is:  Regime change.  WTF.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:30 | 1081367 pazmaker
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Commander Cody  I agree 100% it's about the oil...otherwise we would have been in Dafur if was about saving innocent civilians. There is no honor in these actions and I think we all know why they are happening.  My problem with Putin, is that Russia abstained for a reason.  He speaks agaiinst it while behind closed doors approved of it.

So screw Putin  and stay out of Libya.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:57 | 1081469 G-R-U-N-T
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Indeed Stuart. Daffy and Putin lovers have a need to be controlled, manipulated, and beaten in order to feel loved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

The love of tyrants and the hatred of freedom is their religion. This mind set is almost impossible to break but through high tech media the masses that have lived under this tyranny are beginning to break free.

 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:03 | 1081512 Abitdodgie
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You have some to lick ?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:14 | 1081299 SheepDog-One
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RIGHT! You can either bow down to US brass knuckles illegal thug policy, or get the hell off the planet!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:32 | 1081644 The Axe
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Amen Brother!!!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:43 | 1081167 jesse livermoore
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we are witnessing the last gasp of petro-dollar ,  take a good look,  someday we can all tell are grandchildren .   the dollar has jumped into the last ditch.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:18 | 1081308 SheepDog-One
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Yes we can tell our grandkids around the bonfire 'Yes we saw it coming, but were too busy navel-gazing and marveling at our captors and acting like its not our problem and doing nothing as they bankrupted us and placed us under tyranny'. It will be a fun story to tell them.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:43 | 1081169 Yen Cross
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Of course. The Russian Europe connection.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:51 | 1081198 duo
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Another wave of N. African immigrants into France and it ceases to exist.  Avoiding the immigrant situation I believe is at the  root of Sarkozy's willingness to get involved.

Human "colony collapse disorder" is spreading through MENA.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:19 | 1081311 freedmon
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That's true, though there are basically no Libyan refugees coming to Europe, which should make us question the whole "Ghaddafi is a monster" movie that's being played for us. Plus if anyone did flee Libya, they'd go to Italy.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:43 | 1081170 Johnny Lawrence
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America....FUCK YEAH!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:00 | 1081240 Yen Cross
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FUCK YEA!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:20 | 1081322 freedmon
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If you junked Johnny Lawrence's comment, you need to go and watch Team America: World Police, and then apologise.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:25 | 1081351 Yen Cross
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pommys are my friends. you are not a pommy.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:44 | 1081172 Bubbles...bubbl...
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Germany is finally in the right side of a world war.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:21 | 1081335 fragrantdingleberry
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only cuz they lost last time

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:04 | 1081510 HungrySeagull
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No they did not lose. They got ground under the treads on one side and buried by the weight of industrial might on the other.

However with the Uboats, they came damn close to winning via starvation against the UK.

Putin is a hardass I can see. He is preparing to show Europe and Japan the riches in resources while ignoring the fact that the old USSR scattered radioactive junk all over the Artic circle out of the way where the people don't see it. If they did, they are dead already being too far from Civilization to get help.

I figure it's time for the French and Europe to have a battle and work out the flaws discovered during the fight. Crazy Daffy brought it on himself.

The USA already have taken a shot back in the 80's and we don't mind tossing a few missiles downrange before they expire in the canisters.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:44 | 1081174 pendragon
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aren't higher oil prices supposed to be negative for stocks?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:47 | 1081179 Nate H
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it depends

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:00 | 1081233 Larry Darrell
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There is no news or real economic indicator which can prevent stocks from levitating going forward.

USDX around 75.50 now.  There is no support to be seen for the US dollar, and as such, all things denominated in dollar terms will continue to rise.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:52 | 1081176 Mercury
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I will hereby commence eating my hat.  I know it was sooooo predictable and all that but I really didn't think Obama would get directly involved in military action in Libya (regardless of whether it's "the right thing to do" or not).

That said, he's obviously trying to keep as low a profile as possible (with missiles and not planes and troops -at least so far) and I think he's way outside his comfort zone with this whole shebang which I think has a very slim chance of ending well.

If Obama can pull something off like this (way outside his core competency and worldview) and not look like a complete failure then he has another set of tools in his belt to win in 2012.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:54 | 1081204 Oh regional Indian
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Hey Mercury, did you know you go retro-grade March 30th? Turn your hat backwards.

Not a good time at all, given what is going on. For anyone interested:

http://www.findyourfate.com/astrology/year2011/2011-mercury-retrograde.html

ORI

PS: For any naysayers, all billionaires/kings/sundry rats use astrology. Reject it at your own risk. ;-)

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:07 | 1081257 Mercury
Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:40 | 1081681 Oh regional Indian
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The new Zodiac MErc, is much the same as the relegation of Pluto (the soul) into non-planethood. A way to throw people off center.

Precessional zodiac is the root of Indian Astrology (Sidereal Astrology).

And yet, MErcury Retrograde is a visible event (relatively anyways) and it does seem to throw a spanner in the communication works, as per my observation.

ORI

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:41 | 1081420 Pope Clement
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ORI- Astrology is just a partial racial memory left over from the catASTROphy associated with the breakup of the Saturnian System six thousand years ago. The priest establishments of the world do not readily acknowledge the fact that the primal god from every part of the world was Saturn. That list would of couse include Brahma, El/Allah, Ra, Kronus, Shamash and a myriad of others. Racial amnesia is a powerful drug hehehheheh. http://www.maverickscience.com/saturn.htm 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:47 | 1081672 Oh regional Indian
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Very true Il Papas. Saturn, in hindu mythos, is called MahaKaal, or Great time. And various other epithets that told of it beign the center of our existance.

It was the time marker.

Next up is Jupiter. Perhaps soon?

Thanks for the link. Will check it out. The Saturn mystery has always fascinated me.

I think I need to re-read Velikovsky. Any other links much appreciated. This one had me salivating for more. Thanks again.

ORI

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:16 | 1081307 francis_sawyer
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"he's obviously trying to keep as low a profile as possible"

I have it from a relaible source that Obama is in Rio trying to learn the SAMBA & LAMBADA for his upcoming Dancing With the Stars gig...

http://www.jamesmaurer.com/images/obama-palin-dancing.jpg

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:13 | 1082474 StychoKiller
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ROTFLMAO!  I can just visualize the heads of Progressives and Christian Conservatives imploding from such an event!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:47 | 1081181 Tense INDIAN
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whyIndian markets are in RED while the whole world is green ::::

 

http://markettechnicals-jonak.blogspot.com/

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:59 | 1081231 SheepDog-One
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Markets green, dollar bloody red again. 75.5, the dollar is doing the death throes while sheeple are mesmerized by green stocks, which are worth nothing.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:01 | 1081183 Oh regional Indian
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He should be making some nose in the UN, not in some press mouth-piece.
Plus, anyone who believes that the Bear AND the dragon are not in on the action have to be kidding themselves.

Today will bring something new. A new escalation, the air is still and strange.
Yemen? Yemen going haywire would be the move that really trips the ME. Edit: What's the news from Syria? Wrote Yemen but was thinking Syria..

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/axis-of-evil-doing/

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:46 | 1081186 overmedicatedun...
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some dems calling for impeachment of Obuma over this..Putin was much nicer in comparison.

I never thought I would be in agreement with both. strange in the days of the Big Moon.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:50 | 1081200 akuacumen
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Couldn't agree more with Putin's take on the issue. The "no fly" mandate was far too broad and allowed for "all measures" necessary and followed/preceeded by the usual PR campaign alleging genocide from Qaddafi's side ... as justification for NATO's actions ... they looked for WMDs in Iraq, Bin Laden in Afganistan ... mass graves in Lybia?

The failure of the opposition to attract sufficient military support from the beginning led me to believe the Tripoli will push back and win once they are over the initial shock. Hence my surprise how quickly certain countries alligned themselves with the opposition. As soon as Qaddafi started to gain ground and it looked like he was going to win it was obvious that they backed the wrong pony too soon and were forced to either renegotiate contracts at substantially different prices or assist the opposition militarily to ensure that their pony wins ... which is what we see taking place.

Except "no fly" is not sufficient. Grounding Qaddafi's Mirage and MIG jets will do little ... he still has a navy to conduct a naval blockade of the opposition's strong hold, artillery, tanks etc. as well as lacking any regard for casualties among the opposition ... more than enough to win ... hence the "all measures" necessary language to provide room for strikes beyond air force and anti-air defences ... something we saw happen already when Qaddafi's artillery and tank positions were hit by the NATO forces.

The selectiveness and ease at which the west is getting involved in these conflicts is stupidifying ... however, they only get involved where they have military superiority. I'd like to see them try attacking Iran and get their asses handed to them on a golden platter. Likewise, you don't see the west get involved in places that they don't care about ... many countries in Africa come to mind ... they don't have oil so who cares.

Anyhow, Putin's crusades rhetoric is accurate.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:14 | 1081293 pazmaker
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So then why did Russia Abstain from voting?  That was the time for Putin to open his big mouth..why didn't  he veto?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:18 | 1081320 SheepDog-One
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Remember the words of a past Russian leader 'We will let them hang themselves with the rope they made'. 

Pretty simple.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:27 | 1081623 zaknick
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If they vetoed, the Russians would have been attacked again by the cia's mooslim drug trafficking terrorists out of Chechnya etc

Would you risk your life and your family's life over a stranger?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:07 | 1081521 HungrySeagull
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It aint Putin that held the hand up inside the UN.

Keep in mind there were several Women in our Administration who prodded and poked the Men into some sort of action.

What Putin must be doing is having the fat and soft idiot who did meekly raise the hand inside that UN room roasted on a spit before being shipped to Siberia.

And China was there too. They abstained as well.

 

I suppose they are behaving as Parents must behave when the 3 year olds squeal and yell while tugging on the toy in the other end of the house.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:51 | 1081205 tim73
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Putin is an idiot. Arabs in the streets are overwhelmingly supporting these air strikes, even if they do not particularly like the West usually. That kind of tactic will backfire if and when these revolutions succeed acroos the ME. "Oh, you were the guy who liked Gaddafi. Fuck you"...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:53 | 1081212 SilverDOG
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We must... as Americans, keep our troops prepared. Defending the people and their freedom and futures. -sarc 

Next stop U.S.A. The "We" of "We the People" defended shall be. By our own, from our own, completely owned.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:04 | 1081253 John McCloy
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"We must... as Americans, keep our troops prepared. Defending the people and their freedom and S&P futures. -sarc

Fixed that for you since I am sure that is what you meant.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:54 | 1081213 MrMorden
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So we're now getting lectured on good foreign policy by Russia, and they are RIGHT.  The absurdity train rolls on.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:55 | 1081214 The Axe
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If Putin thinks that bullshit he is uttering is going to gather some goodwill with his HUGE Muslim crazy radical internal jihad...hes dumber then I thought. He of course always deals so thoughtful with his Georgian, Ukrainian and other fellow countrymen....DICK

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:05 | 1081254 akuacumen
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I don't think his comments have anything to do with the tensions in Russia. What he is saying is common sense and is mirrored by other nations (China, Germany ...). Never mind the fact that Russian tensions in the Kavkaz date back to 1800s when the kingdoms that existed in the region pledged their allegences to Russia.

 

Georgia is US puppet country so should be left out of any arguments. Ukraine's economy is wholy subsidired by Russia and would be another Zimbabwe without. Your points are moot.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:16 | 1081304 pazmaker
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Putin's points are moot..Russia had the opportunity to veto and they abstained from voting.  So Putin needs to put up or shutup.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:23 | 1081610 spartan117
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Are you saying it's OK for the US to bomb Libya since Russia/China/Germany abstained from voting?  And why do you have a peace sign as your avatar if you are so gung-ho about bombing a sovereign country?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:29 | 1081630 pazmaker
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Sorry Spartan,   Not at all.  You misunderstand me.  I am completely against these actions and I also know it is about the oil  and not saving human lives, thus I'm against it.  I am just stating that Putin is a hollow voice, because they(Russia) had the opportunity to veto these actions and chose not to.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:31 | 1081646 spartan117
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Word.  Cannot disagree with you there.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:35 | 1081662 earnyermoney
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All is going according to Putin's script, higher oil prices. He's playing the West for a group of suckers.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:31 | 1082519 StychoKiller
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And, gaining prestige points by pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes -- well played, Putin!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:18 | 1081316 The Axe
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Pledged Allegiances to Russia!!!!  That is the funniest thing I have hear on ZH..ha ha thanks for making my day....hilarious!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:37 | 1081390 akuacumen
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Re: Veto ... neither did China. While everybody else voted for despite the obvious shotcomings. Perhaps, they should have vetoed but lacked an agreement and decided to collectively abstain. Who knows what goes on in the background.

 

Re: Pledged allegiances ... Russia first sent troops to the region in 1790s when they were fighting the persians. At the end of the war select regions that included tribes that were not loyal to Russia were annexed/pledged allgiances to Russian crown. Among the newly acquired and loyal to the Russian crown were pockets where Russian rule was opposed. The opposition led to a popular uprising in Dagestan in 1810s ... when an attempt was made to form an independent islamic state in the region. The really heavy fighting didn't start until 1820s-30s when these regions backed by Turks and British.

That area has been problematic for hundred's of years much like the Balkans. They may change hands but remain a pita despite their inability to rule themselves effectively witout causing trouble.

You are welcome.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:41 | 1081677 zaknick
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Bravo!

Truly worldly acumen.

I wouldn't have been as educated with these Sara "I'm not an elite stooge, I'm just a hillbilly redneck like you" Palin zombies who believe the banksters view of things.

That support by the Brits back in the day; that's the same thing the CIA is doing now except it's all financed by heroin trafficking and using suicide bombers now.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:45 | 1081687 The Axe
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Akua, you must have had your brains smashed in, by Samurai Jack. Russia and China act independent and for their own self-interest as always. Of, course the UN(broken idea) does work by voting...of course in your mine that does seem to matter... Please retreat back to your mothers basement

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:28 | 1081366 Yen Cross
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OK a big black widow hung off of my eve during the recent downpour. My left foot is headed for your ass!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:56 | 1081215 themiestro
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Putin has been hell bent on renewing the cold war for as long as he has been power.  He reminds me of a soccer mom stuck who can't let go of the 80's.  Get over it and move on.  Hopefully we are not this pathetic when our fiat currency blows our country up.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 08:54 | 1081217 Buzz Hacksaw
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The French pay the same for oil as the rest of us. Here in Canada, where I live, the price of gas includes some 60% taxes, (including tax on tax on tax), and royalties (tax). The price of gas would be some $.60 / l. If just that team (gov) of greed pigs backed out. How is it that gas gets to $9.00? What % goes to Gov? Sarkozy and their ilk are very worried that they may take loose this lucrative deal.

Energy is fundemental to sustaining life. The greed pigs should take a not just a hair cut but a scalping.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:14 | 1081292 Azannoth
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This is exactly why no government is seriously investing in alternative-alternative energy sources like Cold Fusion and h3(tridium) based power, because you can't tax what is virtually limitless and free

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:26 | 1081346 Flakmeister
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You have made a number of well thought out posts....

I call bullshit on this one.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:20 | 1082258 Flakmeister
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 I see 4 junks, yet not one reply...

Afraid I'll rip you a new one based on facts if you try to present a counter argument?  Thought so...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:56 | 1082422 Azannoth
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I didn't junk you, but Cold Fusion has been demonstrated in a laboratory more than 1nce and h3 is serious science, where as governments have put tens of billions into Hot Fusion which will never work, it never did and it's impossible to ever get more energy out than you put in, and they KNOW it they just want to fool every1 into thinking Fusion can't be done

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:21 | 1082491 Flakmeister
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Aside from the all the hype, cold fusion is known to occur via quantum tunnelling. There no evidence that it can be made to be commercially viable despite lots of research since the Pons and Fleischmann fraud. I was at BNL at that time, 3 groups immediately tried to replicate the results. Cold fusion research is very cheap to perform (comparatively speaking) and the fact that noone aside from private sector people (or academics from non-nuclear disciplines) seem to make claims is a serious tell.

Use Occam's razor, anyone that can pull off a new energy source would own the hammer, oil companies and utilities would be falling over themselves to make the next fortune. A country like Germany where huge vested interests in fossil fuels do not exist (compared to the ROW) would be in ball's deep, and don't think for minute that there is not serious research being performed there. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:12 | 1082656 Azannoth
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Cold Fusion was 'debunked' based on theory not on practise, every1 confirmed that the experiment yielded more energy than was put in, but because of the non detection of radiation(which the theory required) they said it's not Cold Fusion, I am not talking about 1 single experiment but of many that where independently conducted

 

Well I don't care how you call it or what theory you use to describe it, if it give more energy than it takes it works for me

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:16 | 1082691 Flakmeister
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There is a difference between a battery and fusor.... no significant neutrons, no fusion. Read up on the Sherritt-Gordon process and compare it to the latest Italian claim:

http://electrochem.cwru.edu/encycl/art-m02-metals.htm

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:06 | 1081239 John McCloy
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   Putin is about the only person who leads their actual nation as opposed to our puppets. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:03 | 1081250 FranSix
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I don't think anybody believed for a second that imposing a no-fly zone meant just preventing Quackdaffi airforce from flying.

This is very reminiscent of clobbering Sadaam out of Kuwait.

 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:06 | 1081266 nmewn
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Putin the Pacifist...check...LOL.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:11 | 1081549 ColonelCooper
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If I'm not mistaken, that clanging sound you just heard was the pot bouncing off the kettle.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 12:07 | 1081780 nmewn
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Incredible ain't it?...the former head of KGB making all these touchy feely kumbaya noises...how positively 1970's.

The communists take over Russia and begin "their crusade" of torturing and executing Russian Orthodox Christians...Putin himself silences the opposition prior to any & all elections to this very day and installs a puppet president (Medvedev) to spit shine his shoes all the while indiscriminately killing Muslims in Chechnya as the Russian mafia runs amok throughout the country.

Oh look...those jets have knights in shining armor flying them!...LOL...good grief.

I guess it falls to us old timers to tell the young uns what a POS this guy really is because they damn sure ain't taught anything in school or in the catch-phrase-of-the-day MSM.

Edit; Hey!...check it out, we got at least four Roooskies or Roooskie marxist wannabe's perusing ZH...ROTFLMFAO!!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 12:16 | 1082000 Oh regional Indian
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nm, how blow the winds in the Bayou? Not seen you around for a bit.

ORI

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:10 | 1082463 nmewn
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Not too bad O...I'm hanging in.

Got the day off, trying to catch up on some chores...damn brake lights went out on the truck so I got the dashboard ripped out tracing out the problem and found the relay...under the hood...where I could have gotten to it in like 30 seconds without ripping the dashboard out...LOL.

I refuse to look at a manual, takes all the fun out of it apparently ;-)

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:09 | 1081273 Crassus
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Don't worry Vlad, we promised Ural crude at $110 and $110 it will be.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:08 | 1081276 SilverBoy
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Putins job it to publicly oppose the airstrike all the while counting

on the extra revenue from price volatility.

Nothing to get worried about over the Russians.

 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:09 | 1081277 Hanging Harry
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Putin's right!  The Middle East is on the verge of civil war.  It's may be a good thing in the end for the middle eastern people but it is not our fight.  Let the people have their oil AND the government they want.  America go home!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:11 | 1081281 Yen Cross
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Get ready for more Pussy(PUTIN) Elections are coming up.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:12 | 1081285 Yen Cross
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That is a bitch that needs ass slapping. That clown carves an apex like a little girl.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:13 | 1081286 Bubbles...bubbl...
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It's time for the US to get the hell out of Lybian dodge. Just make sure the European "allies" led by the midget Sarkozy stay behind for the "good fight". We can still make this a partial victory as the Euro crumbles.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:14 | 1081291 Sweet Chicken
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What a cock. Throwing "crusades" in there is just trying to make things worse. Seriously, what a cockfag.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:58 | 1081762 zaknick
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His use of the word crusade is to incite a backlash. What would you do if an evil foreign power wanted to dominate the world through the oil? Let me tell you: the American 666 banksters want wwwiii scale war in that region (to prevent dollar irrelevance and collapse).

Do you seriously believe thwarting a plan that involves the deaths of millions is a bad thing? Oh wait, they're just 3rd worlders not real people. Wait until the shtf and "unexpected" new nukular powers are unveiled.

Armaggedon? Make my day, punks.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:14 | 1081295 billwilson
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Putin is an asshole, and a dangerous one. Speaking against the NFZ is a way to push for more military at home and higher oil prices for his exports.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:16 | 1081305 High Plains Drifter
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110321/D9M3J3U80.html

trying to do the same thing in yemen as they did in egypt. replace the guy at the top with another useful idiot and make it appear that real change has come.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:36 | 1081382 Yen Cross
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See what I'm saying?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:17 | 1081309 Miss Expectations
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NFZ..I smell spin off featuring Tyler Durden as Harvey Levin. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:19 | 1081314 Commander Cody
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Relocated.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:21 | 1081337 Sweet Chicken
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I hear you but he is just being a dick by posturing this way. If he really wanted to "tell it how it is" then Russia should have vetoed the UN resolution and not abstained.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:25 | 1081345 Miss Expectations
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Oh come on, who knew No Fly Zone meant Bombs Away?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:30 | 1081365 Sweet Chicken
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Answer: Everyone

 

apologies if that was sarcasm.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:38 | 1081392 Yen Cross
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Bitter Sweet!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:20 | 1081318 overmedicatedun...
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for a broke country we sure can spend on messy little wars..is saudi paying us?

remind me to look a the national debt, it just went ballistic (pun intended)

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:46 | 1081434 SheepDog-One
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Hey Saudi govt also killing their people mowing them down in the streets, I wonder if we'll bomb them next for 'humanitarian reasons'? Nah.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:19 | 1081324 JW n FL
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  • Russia was the largest producer of crude oil in 2009, surpassing Saudi Arabia.
  • http://ftp.eia.doe.gov/countries/country-energy-data.cfm?fips=RS

     

    The same people who gave Iran Nukes.. is now stirring the pot in the Mid-East??? Noooooooooooooo... that can Not! be??

    Why would Mother Russia want there to be striffe in the Mid-East? How could Russia profit from such behavior? Noooooooooo??!! There is no resonable cause or way for Mother Russia to Profit. Mother Russia is just a concerned World Citizen, thats all. They mean well.

     

    In other news Saudi Oil Fields Nuked by Iran... Russia says they will step up production as Iraq's Fields were also contaminated by the blast...

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:55 | 1081466 Yen Cross
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    Russia is the largest producer of crude on EARTH! Quit wasting my time!

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:28 | 1081631 spartan117
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    The same people who gave Iran Nukes...

     

    Got proof?

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:20 | 1081332 SheepDog-One
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    Breaking news- 'Chinese missile frigate appears in the Mediteranian off the Libyan coast, first time ever'.

    Prepare yourselves.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:37 | 1081388 High Plains Drifter
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    Oh goody, this should prove to be interesting. ha ha ha

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:40 | 1081401 Yen Cross
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    Ga ha. John Wayne said that way.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:37 | 1081389 John McCloy
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    China & Russia know that the U.S. can be pushed around now. I look for them to assert themselves on a scale that will permanently shift the balance of power. I think we all know that the Missile fired in the fall off of California was from a Chinese Sub and was a warning sign to proclaim they have arrived and do not want the dollar devalued.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:48 | 1081439 SheepDog-One
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    Yep John, but the avg american attention span is no longer than a feature length movie, that event is now ancient history and forgotten. But another event will soon appear.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:38 | 1081397 Canucklehead
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    So what do they do if they lose that one... send another one over in a couple of weeks?

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:11 | 1081542 HungrySeagull
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    Forget the damn bathtub boat.

    Watch them drill on our turf and in our Gulf.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 10:29 | 1081636 spartan117
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    Not really breaking.  Almost a month old.  And its an evac mission.

    http://www.chinasignpost.com/2011/02/china-dispatches-warship-to-protect...

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:25 | 1081347 bigredmachine
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    all together now. USA,USA,USA

    lmao

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:25 | 1081348 paramitas
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    Don't worry, Were Gonna FREE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:33 | 1081380 John McCloy
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    Libervasion 2011

    "Shoving that Red, White and Blue right up your cheeks"

    You will be free or else.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 09:51 | 1081455 SheepDog-One
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    You'll take your regime change and humanitarian bombings and US 'democracy', or get a mouthfull of brass knuckles Uncle Slam style!

    Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!