QE 2 Was A Disaster: Here Is Why US Fiscal "Stimulus" Was A Complete Failure As Well

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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:03 | 1348840 baby_BLYTHE
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The Federal Reserve is the largest counterfier in the history of the world

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:21 | 1348903 traderjoe
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Actually, in our fractional reserve system, it's the banks that counterfeit most of the money. See the paper from the chicago fed entitled modern money mechanics.

"The actual process of money creation takes place primarily in banks."

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 04:41 | 1349799 Michael
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I spoke with Benjamen Shalom Bernanke today and he said there would absolutely be QE3 and they'll probably call it Quantitative Debt Monetization. The pigs just have to squeal loud enough for it first, and they will.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 04:43 | 1349895 Michael
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What would a worldwide Bond Market collapse look like?

No really, I want to know.

Paint a picture for me.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 04:51 | 1349904 Michael
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Just heard on CNBC World;

Japan needs a specific type of crude. A light sweet crude, especially after their natural disaster, and they ain't getting it from their chief supplier, Libya, due to the little thingy they have going on over there.

Now we know why Obama wants to get that Libyan oil on line as soon as possible.

Humanitarian reasons, ie: Japan. 

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 22:02 | 1353354 hbjork1
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THanks much for the post.

These guys i the FED aren't really very bright.  In fact, considering the import to the country I have to say they are "faking" their expertise. 


Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:48 | 1349170 Dr. No
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Junkers dislike the truth

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 21:01 | 1349196 Pure Evil
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Sorry bout dat!

I'm just a crack junkin' monkey.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 09:32 | 1349739 TruthInSunshine
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Here is the true counterfeiting, which is not only allowed, but they've made it a necessary part of the ponzi scheme which all economic activity depends on (the 1.5 trillion or so in treasuries Bernanke & Syndicate have purchased have the potential to create credit/debt *they are the same thing* on the order of approximately 15 trillion; never mind that the demand and/or ability to tap that credit just isn't there and won't be there for a long, long time, hence the reason the tailspin will get worse and the crash into the mountain side will happen. And even if the demand and/or ability to tap even, say, 25% or more of that credit did exist, it would hasten the destruction of the economy, as it no doubt indicate a new bubble has been launched, allowing broad participation and broad new indebtedness. No win situation).

The velocity of the destruction wreaked by Modern Money Mechanics, as admitted quite candidly within the very text of the instruction manual that guides the very actions of the Federal Reserve, is astounding, and there can be little doubt, when simple and accurate math is done, that we're approaching the implosion, regardless of what form it takes (pick your poison as it makes no difference in the practical result of the outcome).

QE1 and QE2, thus far, have sewn the seeds of the next major crisis, which will be an intense one, and is closer in time rather than further (see ZH's article on margin utilization, which has similar implications).

Open Market Reserve Expansion and Credit Creation

1. The FED buys $10,000 in government securities from an authorized dealer and instructs the designated bank to credit $10,000 to the dealer's account in exchange for an increase of $10,000 in the bank's federal reserve balance. With a ten percent reserve ratio, $1,000 is isolated and the other $9,000 is made available as the basis for new loans.

2. This $9,000 is loaned out to business A, who immediately deposits it back into the bank. This $9,000 is another addition to the bank's reserve balance. Ten percent, or $900, is isolated and $8100 remains as the basis for new loans.

3. The process continues until all excess reserves are loaned out. With a ten percent requirement, $10,000 can support $90,000 in expansion of bank credit and $100,000 of deposit expansion.

The above is admittedly a simplification, but it is one contained in the FED's own publication (pg 6-8) and believed by the FED to be an accurate representation of the current system. In effect the FED has the power to create money through nothing more than an electronic bookkeeping entry. Whether the initial injection stays with the same bank, as is assumed above, or whether it changes hands, is irrelevant;

“It does not really matter where this money is at any given time. The important fact is that these deposits do not disappear. They are in some deposit accounts at all times. All banks together have $10,000 of deposits and reserves that they did not have before. However, they are not required to keep $10,000 of reserves against the $10,000 of deposits. All they need to retain, under a 10 percent reserve requirement, is $1000. The remaining $9,000 is "excess reserves." This amount can be loaned or invested (pg 6). ”

It is a common perception on the part of the public that excess reserves themselves are loaned out. This could not be farther from the truth;

“Of course, they do not really pay out loans from the money they receive as deposits. If they did this, no additional money would be created. What they do when they make loans is to accept promissory notes in exchange for credits to the borrowers' transaction accounts. Loans (assets) and deposits (liabilities) both rise by $9,000. Reserves are unchanged by the loan transactions. But the deposit credits constitute new additions to the total deposits of the banking system (page 6-7). ”

From the facts presented thus far, several things should be apparent:

• The deficiency between purchasing-power and collective retail prices is cured by the creation of bank credit

• The refusal to create new credit is enough to cripple production and consumption

• Collective growth in loans is directly related to collective growth in deposits. When loans are payed back, deposits are destroyed

Asset Destruction and Credit Contraction

1. The FED sells $10,000 of treasuries to a dealer and receives payment in the form of an electronic check drawn on Bank A's reserve account. As a result the FED's holding of securities and bank reserves both decrease by $10,000. This constitutes a decline in the money stock

2. The amount of reserves freed by the decline in the deposits is $1,000. This leaves the bank with a reserve deficiency of $9,000

3. Under a ten percent requirement, unless the bank borrows money to cover the gap, the deficiency would lead to a $90,000 reduction in deposits and $80,000 reduction in loans or investments

It has been established that a $10,000 injection of reserves into the banking system in the form of a securities purchase may result in the expansion of up to $90,000 in loans and $100,000 of deposits. However, when $10,000 of reserves is removed from the system, the credit it sustains must contract, to the extent that any excess reserves are not utilized. This is the ripple effect that results from loan defaults... As bank assets lose value or disappear, so do their equivalent representation in bank reserves. The default of $10,000 on an bad loan could cause up to $100,000 in losses.

“The central bank, by purchasing and selling government securities, can deliberately change aggregate bank reserves in order to affect deposits. There are two other ways in which the System can affect bank reserves and potential deposit volume directly; first, through loans to depository institutions, and second, through changes in reserve requirement percentages. A change in the required reserve ratio, of course, does not alter the dollar volume of reserves directly but does change the amount of deposits that a given amount of reserves can support. Any change in reserves, regardless of its origin, has the same potential to affect deposits (pg 15-16). ”

The system of fractional reserve banking administered by the Federal Reserve and its member banks is essential a “ponzi” scheme of the largest magnitude. Initial investors are paid with money from later investors and in fact all of this “money” has its origins in nothing more than electronic entries in a quasi- governmental agencies' hard drive. The Federal Reserve is not a federal entity, it is not subject to oversight by the government, members are appointed to twenty year terms by the president and confirmed by the senate. The regional boards are elected by regional banks. They are not subject to any audit; private or public. Our entire economic system is mortgaged to the banking sector, immediate reforms are needed to take the power of credit creation away from private interests and place it back into the hands of the US government as prescribed by the constitution. Failure to act and bring this issue to the forefront will only further burden future generations with unnecessary debt created as a result of an unnecessary system.


Modern Money Mechanics: How To Make and Destroy Money
Wed, 06/08/2011 - 18:19 | 1352706 nmewn
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Good post, I remember this from a long time ago.

It is true, there is nothing new under the sun, just variations of what has come before...some people run "legal" ponzis...some don't.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 22:22 | 1353415 hbjork1
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I also saw this some time ago.  This time I am keeping it for reference.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 22:33 | 1349486 boiltherich
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Ummmm, you can't seperate the banks from the Fed.  Money is created when it is borrowed/lent and destroyed when it is removed from circulation, ECON 101.

USD-JPY 79.9453 -0.1455 -0.18

  as of 3 minutes ago.



Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:48 | 1349613 cranky-old-geezer
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Damn, sub-80, alarms are going off at every fx desk on the planet, carry trades collapsing, meltdown city.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 05:34 | 1349940 fiftybagger
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Don't worry, they'll just short more silver.


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 05:40 | 1349951 Ikea nesting in...
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"The actual process of money creation takes place primarily in banks."

I disagree.  In order for banks to create money, there has to be some kind of repo/loan operations from central banks. 

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 21:06 | 1349221 disabledvet
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awwww.  but you told me you loved that class!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:02 | 1349543 Monedas
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Wouldn't mind if someone made a few counterfeit copies of you ! Anonymous 2011 http://trololololololololololo.com

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:44 | 1349615 DoChenRollingBearing
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Cual es el proposito de tu trololol...?

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:30 | 1349584 legal eagle
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Baby Blythe has a new photo.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:08 | 1348853 Seasmoke
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that fat pig Romer should be hanged , if you can find a noose large enough to fit around her flabby neck

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:07 | 1348863 chrisd
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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:26 | 1348928 SilverIsKing
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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:38 | 1348952 Rynak
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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:54 | 1349032 Concentrated po...
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At least her diabesity will be paid for with Obamacare until we lose reserve status.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 22:41 | 1349494 jeff montanye
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obamacare sucks; it is not worth being called public health insurance.  i would bet romer is covered under a whole 'nother plan.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:45 | 1349617 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 5

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:08 | 1349052 Concentrated po...
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oops, duplicate.

but to quote Animal House:

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son."

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:39 | 1349144 mynhair
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Prove it.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 21:35 | 1349292 QQQBall
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I wasn't drunk.





Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:47 | 1349620 DoChenRollingBearing
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Well, I am skinny, getting drunk and without doubt stupid.  One and a half out of three ain't bad!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 04:59 | 1349909 Sanksion
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Michael Moore made his way through.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:49 | 1349008 I am a Man I am...
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i still get her confused with donald trump

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:10 | 1349089 The Profit Prophet
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I actually think she's a slightly uglier version of Ned Beatty in a wig.

T.E.I.N. everyone!

P.S. Tyler - absolutly awesome commentary...I couldn't agree more. Mean reversion to the true state of economic equilibrium after 30 years of juicing the Klepto paper markets while they globalized the real wealth: productive capacity! 

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:14 | 1349100 I am a Man I am...
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ooh, you are right

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:06 | 1348854 Rynak
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I wonder how that chart would look like, when considering all the people that have been made "disappear" from those stats.... actually, that's untrue.... i know the stats already ( http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts ).

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:57 | 1349189 The Profit Prophet
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True dat....

The chart uses BLS numbers....just imagine what the actual curve would look like!!!!

T.E.I.N. everyone!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:05 | 1348857 Dr. No
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This chart makes it slam-in-your-face obvious government cannot properly allocate capital. Are there any more socialist out there or do you need to see the chart again?

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:09 | 1348871 Re-Discovery
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and neither can their privatized arms --- the TBTFs.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:17 | 1348890 Arnolds Love Child
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Not the United States government.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:27 | 1348893 Rynak
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It is not that they "cannot", but that they "do not want to". Also, the only kind of "socialism" which QE+ did, was bankster-socialism.... While i agree that just throwing money at problems is no longterm solution (and incompetent too), i can think of a few hundred better ways, where all that money could have gone to.

Or to phrase it in your terms: They didn't just do mass-socialism.... they didn't even attempt to allocate it in a way that is useful to the population (as you said already).

P.S.: Or as the greeks would ask "Where the fuck did all our money go?"

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:27 | 1348915 Arnolds Love Child
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At least the Italian government would have thrown a party.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:30 | 1348937 Rynak
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Well, they EACH MONTH pump as much money, as 50% of low income wages for ALL CITIZENS OF THE USA.

You can have a really big party with that..... EACH DAY.

Would it be a total waste of money with no longterm benefits?


But it at least wouldn't have resulted in longterm HARM, by keeping those zombie banks alive. The whole QE program is worse, than throwing money out of the window.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 23:51 | 1349623 Xaqaria
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Its funny to think that if "helicopter Ben" had followed through with the idea that earned him that nick name, he would have done more good than what he actually ended up doing.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 04:11 | 1349866 Incubus
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Turbo Timmy and Bubble Ben. 


Just two of the many marionettes.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:50 | 1349001 Korrath
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Seeing as how they pissed such a colossal sum of money out the window and accomplished fuck all...why didn't they just pay all the banks holding MBS to cut eveyone's mortgage by 50%, across the country?  

Wouldn't that have given them the super-charged kick start they were looking for when all these short sighted under-water home owners now felt like they had won the lottery over night and started spending and racking up new debt like there was no tomorrow?  Not to mention that banks would now be compensated for the home value that has been lost in the last 3 years anyway. 

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 19:55 | 1349033 Cdad
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Yes, but the problem with your suggestion is...nothing the Fed or the Feds have done was intended to fix the economy or enrich Average Joe.  The debt they have created is the instrument which they will now use to break the Republic and consolidate power.

This tactic was most clearly demonstrated In Libya where, for some then unknown reason, the establishment of a Rebel Central Bank was of the utmost importance at the beginning of the conflict.  As well, look at the goodies that are in the pipeline to be stolen from Greece.

The debt created is the yoke, the shackles and the chains used to assume power, which is why the ECB will do almost anything to avoid any sort of debt default.  

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:20 | 1349109 Rynak
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I'm wondering how they want to do this though. I mean, look at europe.... once you push people too low, and especially too fast, they rebell. I don't see how they successfully want to pull this off, without provoking civil war, slaying  it down, and implementing dictatorships everyhwere.

As low as an opinion i do have about humans, it looks to me as if their bet is too greedy. They will not be able to keep the slaves as slaves, unless they treat them as slaves... and part of that is not pushing them below their comfort zone.

Honestly, i think they've made a mistake. Just because something works in 3rd world nations, doesn't mean that it will work in 1st world nations.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 20:59 | 1349192 Cdad
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I'm wondering how they want to do this though.

Well, you are seeing it on a weekly basis with threats coming out of Treasury and criminal syndicate Wall Street banks, saying that if the debt ceiling is not lifted, armageddon will be upon us.  

I don't see how they successfully want to pull this off, without provoking civil war,

Ummm...do you think that war against American couch potatoes and iPad zombies is amongst the Feds' greater concerns?  I don't think so.

They will not be able to keep the slaves as slaves

Americans enslave themselves financially every single day, and of their own accord.  iPad zombies have already had their shackles fitted, and smart phone addicts already have their locations reported by Apple...for easy pick up.  What are you talking about?  You are obviously not American.

As for whether or not it works in America, well, that remains to be seen.  There are signs of hope, but the upcoming debt issue is very important to determine if any substantial awakening in the American spirit is out there, alive and well.

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