Radiation Up To 4 Times Higher Than Chernobyl Evac Zone Found In Soil 30 km Away From Fukushima; Rice Harvest In Question

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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:00 | 1158547 Yield2Greatness
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For many in such areas, they eat what they grow.  Grow nothing = eat nothing.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:05 | 1158573 Hugh G Rection
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Haven't you heard about plastic rice?  Natural rice is a barbarous relic.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:10 | 1158592 idea_hamster
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Unlike most of what ZH posts, I think this rice thing may be a non-story.

Japan already imports tons and tons of rice as a penalty from the WTO for their unapologetic support of their domestic rice farmers. 

Previously, they generally just let that imported rice rot -- now, they may eat it. 

Can't see a big net change in the markets.

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:34 | 1158988 Fish Gone Bad
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It is interesting to note how bad people admit this meltdown is.  There has been plutonium ejected from the core, as well as an exposed core spewing out radioactive products.  There is no staging going on, so there is no plan in place to fix this mess.  Chernobyl was bad.  This will make Chernobyl actually look "not that bad".  This is may very well end up being the absolute worst disaster ever.  Time will tell.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:01 | 1159075 Thorlyx
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Kind of new normal.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:49 | 1159042 TruthInSunshine
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Japan may raise nuke accident severity level to highest 7 from 5

Japan May Raise Nuke Accident Severity Level
 


NIKKEI.com - 1 hour ago
The disclosure prompted the government to consider raising the accident's severity level to 7, the worst on an international scale, from the current 5,

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:41 | 1158719 BobPaulson
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Exactly. Agriculture accounts for only 5% of the world economic activity, so we could eliminate all farms and still have 95% of our GDP rolling along fine. On top of that, clean water is only sold as a commodity in a minute fraction of the economy, so the importance of clean water is highly overrated tree huggers who don't understand economics.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:57 | 1158796 Meatier Shower
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Now that is double-plus good.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:50 | 1159043 Dionysus
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Haha, best comment ever.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:08 | 1159323 Jendrzejczyk
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And a golf clap for you kind sir!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:04 | 1159720 msamour
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So of the 95% of GDP, what would you suggest you eat if you get rid of all the farms? From what I remember from biology, we can't digest paper.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:34 | 1158689 tmosley
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Uhhh, pretty sure subsistence farming isn't exactly the norm in technological superpower Japan.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:42 | 1158732 sabra1
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plastic rice is great, after you poop it out, it can be resold!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:05 | 1158551 jus_lite_reading
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THANK YOU!!!!! They knew this all along and that's the problem. They hid the evidence because of money and the factories that are in the area. That is what they care about.

 

AND A French research group said now radiation in the EU is no longer "negligible"!

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/04/french-nuclear-research-body-warns...

Yup! Better buy a greenohouse and grow your own shit!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:07 | 1158568 SheepDog-One
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Trickle down effect to Apple with no parts for China assembly. Toyota closing US and UK plants. Nissan and Honda and others sure to follow. OH but the CNBC geniuses 'priced it in' first day though Im sure.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:22 | 1158646 jus_lite_reading
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NIssan and honda have already closed their UK plants!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:17 | 1158911 trav7777
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what are you going to water it with?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:50 | 1159036 Rick64
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Lol. Synthetic water.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:04 | 1159084 mick_richfield
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um ... well water ?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:06 | 1160493 OldPhart
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Interestingly, the west coast got the brunt of fall out after the passage across the Pacific.  But we hear very little about radiation effects.  Yet, clear across the US and the Atlantic, the French are getting high doses?

What aren't our owners, and our nannies, telling us?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:03 | 1158554 Thorlyx
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No shit ? That's a big surprise.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:03 | 1158559 carbonmutant
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Market is selling off...

3 to 1 negative.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:05 | 1158562 SheepDog-One
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My goodness...well its certainly 'priced in' I'm sure!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:07 | 1158574 the not so migh...
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haha, yeah its priced in Dog

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:07 | 1158569 Truthiness
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I really feel for these people. The psychological toll must be horrendous :(

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:07 | 1158571 carbonmutant
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That reminds me I need to buy some more Koshihikari.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:07 | 1158572 Thorlyx
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can anyone say if fuck-u-shima is still releasing airborne radioactive particles, or is all the shit in the water?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:29 | 1158662 Maxter
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Latest satellite picture I saw had steam coming out of 2 to 3 reactors.  This mean release of radioactive particle.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:43 | 1158705 Cognitive Dissonance
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These photos from behind the Fukushima plant show you how high the water was. These are official TEPCO images found on their web site. Simply amazing and they say it all, including why they are in such trouble. The entire site was completely flooded. It doesn't say if this was even taken during the peak of the flood.

 

Before the tsunami on March 11.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/110311/images/110411_inundationpointf_1.JPG

 

During the tsunami on March 11, 2011

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/110311/images/110411_inundationpointf_2.JPG

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:22 | 1158926 trav7777
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incredible...probably will find out that the fatal misstep was to engage diesel immediately upon loss of landline power.  At that point, they were still underwater.

Had they manually overridden and waited like 30m or whatever, the water'd have cleared and the generators would not have inhaled it and died.

Then again, it looks like 5-6 feet of water that high up on a hill wtf.  All the electronics may have been drowned, who knows.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:43 | 1158741 sabra1
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or. the hot dogs are ready!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:11 | 1158575 truont
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Yoshiyuki Ueda, a 47-year-old rice farmer from the town of Futaba, where the damaged nuclear plant is located, said he had already given up on trying to plant this year's crop because of radiation fears.

Yoshiyuki-San, focking get a clue.  All signs point to "Get lost".

You were considering going back home to plant crops next to Chernobyl^2?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:02 | 1158838 A Man without Q...
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The problem is, the half-life of many isotopes is to long, you simply can't wait until it's cleared up, but rather the longer you wait, the further into the soil the material has seeped.  This was what drove the Soviet decision, given the area covered, there was no way to remove that much topsoil.  

This is a significant area of arable land in a nation which doesn't have that much to spare.

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:09 | 1158576 Bruno the Bear
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Don't follow the white light!

 

Don't eat yellow snow!

 

Don't eat rice that glows in the dark!

 

So many rules nowadays.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:09 | 1158577 Cleanclog
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Japanese don't deserve all these difficulties and ongoing earthquakes and continued radiation.  

But, everyone who said this would all be back to normal lickety-split, and will hardly affect Japanese GDP - they're all so full of shit!  Even the GDP predictions of reduced 3% are way too low.  Have you seen pictures? There is no way that this is just a little bump/blip.

Enough already with saying what you hope instead of actually sharing reality. Or just promoting your own positions. 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:11 | 1158588 Thorlyx
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"Japanese don't deserve all these difficulties and ongoing earthquakes and continued radiation."

 

Karma is a bitch and one with long memory

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:37 | 1158710 tmosley
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Right, bad things happen because your grandparents existed in a place that had a government that did bad things.

Nice one.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:04 | 1158846 PenGun
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 Everyone gets exactly what they deserve.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:26 | 1158953 zerozulu
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Yellowstone was last time erupted like 2 million years ago.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:25 | 1158874 PenGun
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dupe

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 16:35 | 1158986 Bastiat
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Yeah? Then things don't look so good for the USA.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:43 | 1159206 d_senti
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"Karma" supposedly affects people on an individual level. Unless the modern Japanese are the reincarnation of the Japanese soldiers in Nanking (strange how reincarnation only sticks to one nationality like that), you're an idiot.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:49 | 1158736 Muir
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@Cleanclog

"Or just promoting your own positions."

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Ahhh, hmmm....

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http://www.zerohedge.com/content/zero-hedge-conflictsfull-disclosure-pol...

 

-The Zero Hedge Conflicts/"Full Disclosure" Policy

 

 

You should assume that at all times we are so totally just talking our book it would shock and awe you like the unexpected, early-morning arrival of a cluster of BGM-109C Tomahawks (were you a believer in the importance of "optics" that is).

If we make a off-hand remark about New Zealand sheep herders it's because we are long New Zealand West Island Cold Kut (NZ-WICK) Wool futures and Kiwi brand Condoms ("For it's pleasure").  If we are joking around about Cliff Asness, it's because we have developed a synthetic short of ARQ.  If we jest about Joe Sixpack, it's because we are trying to hype our cheap-American-beer holdings so we can exit quickly.  Basically, we are telling you about a position we believe in strongly enough to invest in.

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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:14 | 1159115 idle muesli
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Japanese don't deserve all these difficulties and ongoing earthquakes and continued radiation. 

 

The Japanese people surely don't deserve all this.  That said, these problems were home-made, and somebody's fault.

When the media will not interview nationally famous politicians who say nuclear power plants are a disaster waiting to happen, and professors who resign from government nuclear power plant oversight boards in protest of the lax standards are also ignored, it was not an unavoidable disaster, but one deliberately created with malice aforethought by TEPCO and the politicians and media channels TEPCO had bought.

I hope that the coming years and devastation will allow them to be prosecuted with the full force of the law, and complete ostracisation.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:09 | 1158578 Cone of Uncertainty
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How long before we start seeing geiger counters attached to the shopping carts at the super markets and at checkouts?

Quality control bitches.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:21 | 1159145 PolishHammer
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Next version of iPhone in addition to thermometer, GPS and gyro will feature geiger counter.  It will be a bestseller in Japan and increase GDP.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:08 | 1158582 Thorlyx
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I am quite sure the BoJ will print some rice after they are done bailing out the nikkei and Tepco.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:10 | 1158583 Conrad Murray
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Good thing not many people eat rice. Otherwise, this could cause some unrest.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:13 | 1158596 Fenlander
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Sounds bad.  Very bad for the people who live there and agricultural livelihoods.  I feel for them and am glad it is not me suffering their losses of loved ones, homes and income.

 

Does anyone know of some reliable data or websites concerning radiation released by airblast nuclear weapons, specifically  of the sort dropped at Hiroshima and Nagasaki?  It seems to me that Japan got over those, but how long did it take, and were the amounts of radiation released comparable to Fukushima?  Larger?  Smaller?  Different?

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 15:14 | 1158608 Truthiness
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Actually wouldn't be surprised one bit if the long term damage to GDP is significant. Farming/fishing villages bore most of the brunt; yes, it will take time to restore supply chaings, but they'll allocate steady power supply to industry and productive geographies. The irradiated areas will just fall off the map...(although they will continue to glow a bit in the dark)

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