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Radiation Detected In Fukushima Children Urine Samples As Fort Calhoun Orders 10 Mile Evacuation Radius

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The Fed may have stopped printing money, but that does not prevent Fukushima from printing radiation, and a flooded Fort Calhoun to print notices of "all's well" even as a 10 mile evacuation zone has been established. Per Ex-SKF, quoting the Sankei Shinbun: "A citizens' group in Fukushima Prefecture "Fukushima Network to Protect Children from Radiation" tested the urine samples from 10 children in Fukushima City, age 6 to 16, and announced on June 30 that a small amount of radioactive materials was detected from all samples. The highest amount of cesium-134 was from an 8-year-old girl, at 1.13 becquerels per liter. The highest amount of cesium-137 was from a 7-year-old boy, at 1.30 becquerels per liter. The samples were taken in late May, and sent to the French laboratory ACRO (Association pour le Contrôle de la Radioactivité dans l’Ouest) to testing for radiation. ACRO has experience in surveying the radiation exposure in children after the Chernobyl accident. ACRO's president David Boilley said in the press conference, "There is a very high possibility that children in and around Fukushima City have been exposed to internal radiation. Prior to the [Fukushima] accident, these numbers would have been zero." Nothing to see here. Just as there is nothing see in Nebraska, where the NRUC said there is nothing to worry about... despite the imposition of a 10 mile evacuation radius. As a reminder Fukushima has a roughly 18 mile evacuation radius zone.

Fast forward 45 seconds into the ABC news clip for the evacuation news:

h/t DailyPaul



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Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:07 | 1416241 Gully Foyle
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Isn't that urine story like five days to a week old now?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:15 | 1416269 Herd Redirectio...
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Certain things in life we have no control over.  We can control how close we live to a nuclear plant, but we can't stop it from meltdown.   The rational response is to make decisions regarding things that ARE under your control.

Take the financial system, for example. Completely man-made, and under our control (as a society, although in the more literal sense it is currently bankster-controlled) to modify or reform as needed.  The important thing is to not live in fear, or ignorance.

Check out the latest from the Capital Research Institute "Misdirection, Disinformation and Lies":

A few days ago, on June 26th, 2011 the BIS (Bank of International Settlements) released a warning:

“Interest rates must rise worldwide, says BIS”

Hmmm,  OK.  Pretty sure the Capital Research Institute beat you to that revelation by 6 months or so.  Thanks for that, BIS.  Who is the BIS any way?  What are they warning us, the common folk, for?

 If central bankers want to discuss things with other central bankers, they would do so at the BIS...

Banks in Europe, North America, and China all have low reserves, and large amounts of low quality loans.  The BIS talks a good game, but it knows that credit growth has been rampant in the last decade, and that it has failed in its attempt to ensure banks worldwide hold adequate reserves.

So what does that have to do with interest rates?  And the BIS warning that rates ‘must rise worldwide’?  Well, if you see that the BIS has been unsuccessful in its stated purpose, maintaining ‘capital adequacy’, then you can make an informed judgment whether the BIS will successfully complete its current task.  But more importantly, you should realize that if the BIS was serious about interest rates being hiked it would not have to release warnings or official statements, it could merely have a meeting between the central bankers, who are part of the BIS, and discuss it at that time.  The reason for the statement, then?

The warning is all politics.  They are saying the right things, while doing nothing...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:16 | 1416272 andybev01
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Jesus; that guy's eyes where everywhere but on the camera...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:36 | 1416363 blunderdog
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That's a GOOD thing.  It's easier to lie to a camera than a person.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:13 | 1416273 Cognitive Dissonance
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Isn't that urine story like five days to a week old now?

Nope. With Greece saved it's now all about the PIIS.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:22 | 1416309 cougar_w
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Twisted! Feels like the entire story was set up just to get that comment.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:46 | 1416319 Cognitive Dissonance
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It's something I imagine the twisted sisters would say. :)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:06 | 1416708 Jason_1sandal
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Fascinating Cog, where in the world did you find these stories ? I just read Evening and Dinner with the Destroyer....  

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:32 | 1416808 Cognitive Dissonance
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cougar_w (yes, ZH's own cougar_w above) is the author. He's just too shy to promote his own work so I carry the water when I find the right opportunity. I 'Guest Posted' one of them here on ZH some time back.

I love the way his mind works. And the sisters are way too cool to ignore. Good semi clean fun.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:26 | 1416327 Cognitive Dissonance
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Feels like the entire story was set up just to get that comment.

In this volleyball game Tyler's the set up man. I just bang the ball home. Just doing my job and going for the Gold (and Silver).

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:59 | 1416441 mick_richfield
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It just hit me -- like a diamond bullet in my brain -- TPTB won't let us have silver and gold -- but they're spewing U-238 around the environment in all directions for free.

Any one of the reactors at Fukushima, with its spent fuel pool, has about the same amount of heavy metal as COMEX has silver.  (And that's officially.)


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 21:07 | 1417545 New_Meat
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"...but they're spewing U-238 around the environment..."

au contraire.

spewing? non!  Highly controlled.  COMEX? I have no knowledge.

I doubt the tons == tons comparison that youi suggest, though ;-)

- Ned

{another old guy with a _ in his handle}

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:35 | 1416569 LudwigVon
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Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:38 | 1416352 Fukushima Sam
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The fact it is children is new, the previous story was adults.

This shows internal radiation exposure.  This is much, much worse than external exposure.

Here is a good recent interview with Arnie Gunderson talking to Helen Caldicott.

We are incredibly fucked.  But it takes decades or even generations to play out.  We need to stop playing with nuclear power before it is too late, if it is not already.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:10 | 1416730 Slartebartfast
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No evacuation has been ordered.  Listen to the story.  They don't say an evacuation order has been issued.  They only state there is an evacuation plan.  They've since run a retraction on their website saying they didn't intend to say an evacuation has been ordered.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 23:15 | 1417785 Money Squid
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Its called Tepco speak. Say something, retract it. Say it again, but then clarify it. The truth is in there somewhere, you just need to find it. They play these games so they can pick any sentence and claim "see, we told you." Endless truths, lies and contradictions. Gotta read betwen the lines.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:26 | 1417318 RafterManFMJ
Thu, 06/30/2011 - 20:58 | 1417522 WarPig
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OR, if there was one ordered, apparently noone told the newspaper headquartered 3.5 miles from FC Plant.

After studying it, I think Fort Calhoun will turn out a near miss UNLESS one of the dams upstream fails.  This is a legitimate possibility given that they're releasing 2-3x record flows and the flooding is expected to last most of the summer.

A guy did get burned when a pump caught fire at FC today...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:07 | 1416244 HungrySeagull
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Not again damn it.

Forcing me over towards buying more precise monitors from Nukealert, LP of Gonzales Texas.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:09 | 1416249 Duuude
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Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:11 | 1416264 Cognitive Dissonance
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Exactly how big an adult diaper does Depends make?

Ft. Calhoun size I hope. There's a lot of seepage to soak up.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:23 | 1416282 hedgeless_horseman
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At 2:05 into the clip, "Pumps are handling the problem," despite all visual evidence to the contrary.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:31 | 1416328 cougar_w
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Yeah the dude needs to work on his double-speak:

"There is no problem because there is no water. There are pumps at the facility, they are a waste of money and will never be used, but we are committed to safety."

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 17:07 | 1416948 A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000
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Hey, anybody know where I can buy a litre of 8 year old girl's piss from?


Don't ask. It's personal.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:10 | 1416251 Cognitive Dissonance
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But....but....but I thought all was well at Ft. Calhoun?

Tyler, please check your info because I always believe the MSM and there's nothing on CNN about this.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:23 | 1416311 hedgeless_horseman
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"An eight foot tall berm has collapsed...however officials remain confident that everything still is secure."

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:34 | 1416339 cougar_w
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Meaning I suppose that their retirement accounts are securely invested.

They have no more handle on the site security situation than you or I do. It's all up to God now.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:34 | 1416349 hedgeless_horseman
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I think the chances of a major radiation disaster in either New Mexico, Nebraska, or both are pretty good.  Therefore, I am doing the only rational thing; I am going long SPY!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:50 | 1416407 Cognitive Dissonance
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Just found some video from CNN taken on the grounds of Ft. Calhoun.

Then some raw overhead Helicopter video shots.

Similarvideo from AP with pilot chatter.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:02 | 1416656 NotApplicable
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While there may (or may not) be any danger of the dry storage casks causing problems, they are at least still out of the water, but just barely. You can see them in CD's 2nd link above between 0:50-1:06. They are the big square concrete blocks with the white doors.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 17:48 | 1417039 krispkritter
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Dammit Janet!...(CNN) It's getting more surreal every day...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:07 | 1416253 flagg707
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Just got off the phone with someone who lives near Fort Calhoun.  They have heard nothing about a 10 mile evacuation zone.  Could you post the link so I can pass that info along to them?  He isn't seeing elevated traffic or anything like that.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:09 | 1416258 Tyler Durden
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45 seconds into the ABC news clip.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:17 | 1416275 flagg707
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He's referring to the standard 10 mile evacuation planning zone which has been part of the regs since 1978.  Listening to it, it sounds like the news reader doesn't understand the difference between a planning zone required by common sense and by the regs and an actual order to evacuate, which according to yet another person living in that area, has not been published.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:19 | 1416284 Tyler Durden
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Is that something like a Schrodinger's cat evacuation?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:36 | 1416361 Fukushima Sam
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Fuckin' LOL, Tyler!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:58 | 1416677 NotApplicable
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You know, snark is not an appropriate response when someone points out that you're propagating false info. Especially when they have family members lives' at stake.

It smacks of childishness, and does your cause no good whatsoever.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:01 | 1417097 davepowers
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Jascko (sic?) sure made it sound like the evac had been ordered. If it hasn't, then he should have been more careful and precise with what he's saying.

I'd never seen or listened to him before, but this clip didn't inspire confidence here. He looked wet behind the ears. Sort of Geithner-like.

Are there any adults dealing our problems these days?


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:16 | 1416290 hedgeless_horseman
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...unlike Los Alamos, which has been evacuated.


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:45 | 1416381 Rusty Shorts
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Los Alamos already burned, hence the flying drones taking measurements.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:28 | 1416550 hedgeless_horseman
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The fire has forced the evacuation of the entire city of Los Alamos, population 11,000, cast giant plumes of smoke over the region and raised fears among nuclear watchdogs that it will reach as many as 30,000 55-gallon drums of plutonium-contaminated waste.


"The concern is that these drums will get so hot that they'll burst. That would put this toxic material into the plume. It's a concern for everybody," said Joni Arends, executive director of the Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety, an anti-nuclear group.


Arends' organization also worried that the fire could stir up nuclear-contaminated soil on lab property where experiments were conducted years ago. Burrowing animals have brought that contamination to the surface, she said.


Lab officials said there was very little risk of the fire reaching the drums of low-level nuclear waste, since the flames would have to jump through canyons first. Officials also stood ready to coat the drums with fire-resistant foam if the blaze got too close.


Lab spokeswoman Lisa Rosendorf said the drums contain Cold War-era waste that the lab sends away in weekly shipments for storage. She said the drums were on a paved area with few trees nearby. As of midday Tuesday, the flames were about two miles from the material.


"These drums are designed to a safety standard that would withstand a wildland fire worse than this one," Rosendorf said.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 05:49 | 1418088 fredquimby
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WPS/700: 500 litre Drum Waste Package
Specification: Explanatory Material
and Design Guidelines
March 2008
Number: 8766510

March 2008

The effects of fire accidents can potentially affect waste packages at all stages of their long-term management, up to vault backfilling, in a similar manner to impact accidents as
discussed in Section 4.13.

Accordingly, waste packages must be capable of withstanding specified fire conditions without excessive loss of contents. For the purposes of this document, the stages at which the effects of a fire accident are considered are limited to transport and subsequent handling and emplacement in a GDF (although the latter will have many similarities to operations during storage by the waste packager prior to transport).

4.14.1 Fire Severity

In developing the criteria for the required fire performance of waste packages it is necessary to define appropriate fire accident conditions (i.e. temperature and duration). The thermal test specified for Type B transport packages by the IAEA Transport Regulations [5] requires such packages to be exposed for 30 minutes to a hydrocarbon fuel/air fire with an average temperature of 800°C, fully engulfing the package. This would result in waste packages being exposed to a thermal transient of significantly less severity. The potential for more challenging thermal transients, when unprotected waste packages could be directly exposed to fires during the operational period of a GDF* and this has been considered to allow bounding conditions for such fires to be determined

[35]. This work has concluded that, although a fire duration of 30 minutes encompasses 85% of road transport fire accidents, the complicating factors of restricted access and fire fighting capabilities in an underground disposal facility mean that a longer duration (i.e. 1 hour) should be adopted as the fire challenge for waste packages. With regard to flame temperature, experience from transport accidents suggests that although 800°C is appropriate to the transport of waste packages, it does not take into account the particular conditions that could pertain to an underground fire. ** Recent fires in similar circumstances, albeit with large fuel inventories (my emphasis WTF!!) , have yielded evidence of flame temperature transients in excess of 1000°C. Accordingly a more conservative temperature than would be required for transport fires alone has been adopted and 1000°C has been specified as the average flame temperature for the fire challenge.

* GDF is a "Ground Disposal Facility" - I bet my grandchildren will love that term.

** This also ties in with my bet that the salt lined oil caverns that the SPR is held in are either empty or tainted.....

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 08:58 | 1418341 hedgeless_horseman
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** Recent fires in similar circumstances, albeit with large fuel inventories (my emphasis WTF!!) , have yielded evidence of flame temperature transients in excess of 1000°C.

Amen.  WTF?  Didn't read about that in the New York Times.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 10:13 | 1418660 malikai
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I hope there were no reprocessing wastes there. Nitric Acid boils at 80ish C. For those who recall, the Kyshtym disaster comes to mind..

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:35 | 1416342 Cognitive Dissonance
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....a planning zone required by common sense.....

You are talking about running a nuclear reactor with no means to permanently dispose of the waste, thus the plan is to store it on site for 1,000,000 years, and you use the term 'common sense'?

BTW the 10 mile evacuation notice is on double secret probation so as not to alarm the local riff raf.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:38 | 1416366 Fukushima Sam
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I wonder where the Oracle is during all this....

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:57 | 1416435 NotApplicable
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Somebody should call and check up on him.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:07 | 1416472 agNau
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You must be pre-med too. I trust you.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:42 | 1416598 Cognitive Dissonance
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No pre-med........but I am pre-nursing home.

Does that still count on the trust factor scale of confidence? I can show you my Depends if you need proof of age and wisdom. Hurry because I'm starting to roll over to senility.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:14 | 1416475 agNau
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Delete, 2x post.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:44 | 1416594 LudwigVon
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which according to yet another living person in the area, has not been published.

or is the person dead already in another parallel reality, and it has been published.

Check TD's cat analogy. lol

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:27 | 1417150 Cognitive Dissonance
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In my reality it's a cougar and everyone is eaten before the thought experiment can conclude. Who's stupid enough to put your hand in a cougar's cage anyway?


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:44 | 1416378 Coast Watcher
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45 seconds in, the reporter makes a dumb comment about a 10-mile evacuation zone phrased as if the evacuation has been ordered. Farther in, the NRC guy explains that EVERY nuclear plant in the US has plans drawn up for a 10-mile evac zone, so this is nothing unusual beyond a numb-nuts TV reporter getting it wrong. (No surprise there.) I have family near Fort Calhoun, and no evacuation has been ordered.


You got this one wrong, Tyler.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:11 | 1416498 NotApplicable
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It may be a dumb comment, but hey, look at his hair!

(as it's obviously where he spends his quality time)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:19 | 1416756 Slartebartfast
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Yes, listen closely.  There is no evacuation order.  They have since posted a clarification on their website.  No evacuation.  Not yet anyway.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:12 | 1416738 Piranhanoia
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go back and listen to the reporter and the official. They seem to confirm an evac.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:09 | 1416261 Texas Ginslinger
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The Union of Concerned Scientists, one of the nuclear-power industry’s toughest critics, sprang into action when the Missouri River flood threatened the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant in Nebraska.

But after looking into the matter, the scientists group was reassured. Precautions had been taken to deal with the floodwaters, and federal inspectors had checked over the plant on Monday.


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:16 | 1416292 andybev01
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Remember how the Fukushima folks kept saying "all is well" just after the tsunami...?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:25 | 1416313 AnAnonymous
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Remember how the Fukushima folks kept saying "all is well" just after the tsunami...?


And they keep saying all is well.

Face it, a nuclear accident will never be big enough to reach a level that does not allow relativization.


Fukushima is bad but not bad enough not to allow to say that it is not that bad.

US driven world.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:36 | 1416348 SoNH80
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Your Engrish is not quite good enough today, Charlie.  I have no idea what you're trying to say.  I will enjoy a tall glass of melamine-laced milk in your honor, irregardless.  The nature of US citizens is eternal.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:59 | 1416683 owensdrillin
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Did they make irregardless a word again?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:09 | 1416704 SoNH80
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Is your humor chip inoperative?  U.S. driven world.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:48 | 1417206 Cognitive Dissonance
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You need to use the /srac label so the seeing eye dog can pick it up and translate. Otherwise the reader is hopelessly lost.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:48 | 1416410 trav7777
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no, I don't remember their saying that all is well.  Those are words you put into their mouth because they weren't running around calling for the end of the world like you were

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:56 | 1416840 andybev01
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Definition of SUMMATION 1 : the act or process of forming a sum : addition 2 : sum, total 3 : cumulative action or effect; especially : the process by which a sequence of stimuli that are individually inadequate to produce a response are cumulatively able to induce a nerve impulse 4 : a final part of an argument reviewing points made and expressing conclusions   ________________________________________________________________________ Definition of POLLYANNA : a person characterized by irrepressible optimism and a tendency to find good in everything — Pollyanna adjective — Pol·ly·an·na·ish also Pol·ly·an·nish adjective See Pollyanna defined for English-language learners » Examples of POLLYANNA
  1. I'm no trav7777, but I do think some good will come out of this.
Thu, 06/30/2011 - 23:42 | 1417869 Element
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Hey fella, I got this newclear reacta I wonna sell's ya - reeeal cheap like ... wadaya say, eh?


I think the answer will be, "No thank you Mr.!".

If you asked me on March 10th what I thought of uranium reactors I would have said a huge boom is coming ... the double-speak version of serendipity has intervened with the wrong sort of boom.


ser·en·dip·i·ty - an aptitude for making desirable discoveries by accident.
Thu, 06/30/2011 - 20:15 | 1417424 krispkritter
Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:24 | 1416536 NotApplicable
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Well, assuming the UCS is uncorrupted, this is good news. The true gem in the article is this

And the no-fly zone was nearly a decade old — imposed on all U.S. nuclear plants since the 2001 terrorist attacks. Officials did issue a reminder about the zone, because small planes had been flying near the plant to see the flooding.

“It’s been frustrating” countering the rumors, said Mike Jones, a spokesman for Omaha Public Power.

To which I can only reply, "Really?"

Who the fuck issues a 'reminder' without noting it is a reminder? And then to wonder out loud why it's so hard to counter rumors? This is stupidity at it's finest. We've known about the no-fly zone since the reminder, but only now do I find out it's ten years old.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 20:23 | 1417419 malikai
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That statement by them is incorrect. There is a reccomended "no fly zone" around all nuclear power plants, but they are not enforcable and pilots regularly stray into them. What really happened is the FAA put a TFR up over Ft. Calhoun, which IS enforcable. TFR Text below:

!FDC 1/6523 ZMP NE.. TFR, FORT CALHOUN NUCLEAR POWER PLANT BLAIR,NE Pursuant TO 14 CFR Section 91.137(A)(3) To provide a safe environment for FLOOD RELIEF EFFORTS Effective immediately until further notice SFC- 3,500 MSL Aircraft flight operations prohibited within 2 NMR 413113N/0960438W or the OVR316026.1 LT. Frank Peck telephone 402-450-1867 is in charge of the operation. Minneapolis /ZMP/ ARTCC telephone 651-463-5580 is the FAA coordination facility. ******CAUTION: This TFR Overlay Display System (TODS) is updated 1100-0230 UTC daily. CONFIRM DATA CURRENCY THROUGH ALTERNATE SOURCES AT OTHER TIMES. For interpretation of this TFR contact your local FSS.******

What I find interesting is not the TFR over Ft. Calhoun, which is to be expected. What's strange is that there's another TFR over Brownville, about 75 miles to the south on the Missouri. Looking at google maps, it seems there should be no reason for this. TFR Text below:

!FDC 1/6704 ZMP NE.. TFR, Brownville, Nebraska Pursuant TO 14 CFR Section 91.137(A)(3) To provide a safe environment for flood relief efforts. Effective immediately until further notice SFC - 3,500 MSL Aircraft flight operations prohibited within a 2 NMR of 402142N/0953835W OR THE PWE064027.6 Nebraska State Patrol, LT. Frank Peck Telephone 402-450-1867 is in charge of the operation. Minneapolis ARTCC/ZMP/651-463-5580 is the FAA coordination facility. ******CAUTION: This TFR Overlay Display System (TODS) is updated 1100-0230 UTC daily. CONFIRM DATA CURRENCY THROUGH ALTERNATE SOURCES AT OTHER TIMES. For interpretation of this TFR contact your local FSS.******

The above is interesting because between Ft. Calhoun and Brownville, on the Missouri river, is Omaha. And there are no TFRs over that city. Perhaps a bunch of people are stranded in a flooded Brownville? Well, that shouldn't be possible because they had plenty of time to evacuate.. What's so important in Brownville?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:20 | 1416280 Coxxy
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This was redacted as incorrect by the station,  he was talking about the planning of the 10 mile zone as most in danger.  He was not talking about an active 10 mile evacuation zone. 

Living within 10 miles of a nuclear plant for years there are certain things that come with your energy bill (including vouchers for iodine tablets) discussing the 10 mile radius and how it is most important that you have a plan to get out. 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:17 | 1416298 hedgeless_horseman
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I think you mean retracted, not redacted.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:36 | 1416302 Coxxy
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If that is more correct then yes retracted.  According to the pamphlets there would be warning sirens as well as television and radio broadcasts should there be an active evacuation.  I hope that it would not simply be a few blogosphere quotes and horrible local station reporting. 

The good thing about living near a nuclear plant is if another plant actually does release something radioactive it sets off all the sensors around here as well.  The I know when to leave.


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:24 | 1416305 kridkrid
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ahhh... woops.  What horrible reporting.  How does that hit the air? 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:20 | 1416293 mayhem_korner
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What does 130 becquerels per litre of cesium 137 translate to in terms of danger level?  ARS/death or more like earless rabbits?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:25 | 1416312 kridkrid
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Not bad at at all, in fact, it's rather good for you.


Ann Coulter (author of "why shouldn't we go to war for oil")

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:32 | 1416334 mayhem_korner
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I hope you didn't spill any cheeze doodle dust on the keyboard to get that insight posted.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:47 | 1416408 whoopsing
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And the correct spelling is whoops ;)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:36 | 1416587 seek
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Not death, but it's pretty freaking high. They're picking units to minimize the number.

A bequerel is a single disintrigration per second. So 130 * 60 seconds = 7800 per minute. A perfectly efficient gieger counter would register this as 7800 CPM. Normal background varies from 20-100 CPM, so a liter has 78X normal background radiation.

I've played with the math a bit, it's hard to know exactly because you have to factor in the body absorption, etc, but I think you're looking in the range 20-200 mSv per year. 20mSv is the maximum permissible dose for radiation workers, so it's safe to say the mimumim is at the very upper limit of "acceptable."

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:11 | 1416735 seek
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Ah, I noticed the post I replied to dropped (or I can't see) the decimal. So divide by 100: it's 1.30 not 130. That puts it down to .2 to 2 mSv per year, which rounds to nearly nothing.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:29 | 1416812 mayhem_korner
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My bad, but thanks for the education.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:26 | 1416317 Tense INDIAN
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Best investment advice : Invest in farmland somewhere far off near a lake with mild climate ...and build a small bunker 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:32 | 1416332 Vic Vinegar
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True.  But with all investment advice seen on the web it's too late.  The smart money got there first.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:43 | 1416864 andybev01
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Ironically, that describes Fort Calhoun, except it's on a river not a lake.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:23 | 1416321 dick cheneys ghost
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Funny that the National Radiation Map is down........


Here is the web page for Omaha Public Power......At the Bottom of the Rumor Response page, they reference "raising the Railroad Tracks"......i ask, how does one raise railroad tracks?........just has not been updated for several days...

"Currently, trains are arriving at both of OPPD’s coal-fired power plants. OPPD and a private contractor have raised the tracks at Nebraska City Station to allow coal to continue to be delivered to the plant"


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:57 | 1416450 NotApplicable
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Remove track, build railbed higher, then rebuild the track.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:31 | 1416329 hambone
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All Fukushima adds up to is a likelihood of higher birth defects, higher infant mortality rates, higher cancer rates.  Get over it kids (or don't as the case may be). 

We have a Ponzi to keep up and not all are going to get to enjoy the fruits of our labor (creating fiat to buy your parents things of worth and charging them interest coming and going).

Some days, humanity seems a little less exciting than others.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:39 | 1416373 Herd Redirectio...
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I know, right.  We are exposed to solar radiation continuously and randomly, so whats a little or a lot of human-created radiation going to do?

I don't even think they will be having kids in Fukushima, but yeah, I do not want to see the babies born there, that will be when things finally hit home for people. 

That we need alternate sources of energy is not a new revelation.  The universe is awash with energy.  The hard part is extracting it efficiently, or harnessing its power safely, in this case.   I seriously think we need to bring James Maxwell and Nicola Tesla back to life, and they will, if nothing else, get us a lot closer to a solution than we currently are.

Check out the latest from the Capital Research Institute "Misdirection, Disinformation and Lies":

"A few days ago, on June 26th, 2011 the BIS (Bank of International Settlements) released a warning:

“Interest rates must rise worldwide, says BIS”

If the BIS was serious about interest rates being hiked it would not have to release warnings or official statements, it could merely have a meeting between the central bankers, who are part of the BIS, and discuss it at that time.  The reason for the statement, then?

The warning is all politics.  They are saying the right things, while doing nothing..."

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:44 | 1416375 disabledvet
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it adds up to one thing:  "mass exodus."  can't see it, can't feel it, can't taste it, it's in your food, it's in your air, it's in your kids:  and it kills.  Theoretically...millions.  If the government can't get a hold of this then you leave.  IMMEDIATELY if you can.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:41 | 1416382 Fukushima Sam
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You forgot about the genetic mutations combining over generations to create wondrous new defects!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:50 | 1416417 trav7777
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these tend to weed themselves out if they confer selective disadvantage

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:20 | 1416652 Fukushima Sam
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Yes, good for the species, small consolation for the individual with a defect.  You don't seem like a collectivist, but this is what you sound like when you make a statement like this.

Also have to be concerned about long-term fertility of the species.

At some point the radiation gets toxic enough to slowly kill off the species.  Eventually over millenia new species will rise.  But that would be small consolation to humanity.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:44 | 1417195 InconvenientCou...
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Incremental mutations might lead to a more robust organism over time. Lots of evidence to back that up.

Mutations that occur on timescales 10x shorter than the reproductive innovation rate, not so much. For instance, the effects of heavy metal contaminaton on contained aquatic eco-systems have been tried a number of times in the mining industry. The results are pretty consistent.



Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:58 | 1416454 NotApplicable
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I wonder what color ribbons they will get?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:53 | 1416889 andybev01
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Doesn't matter, they will all glow in the dark.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:40 | 1416362 Silver Dreamer
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Yeah, the water pumps are working.  They worked well for Japan's disaster too.  Anyone up for a swim?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:47 | 1416391 Zymurguy
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I demand to know who leaked this urine story to to the press!

Crap like this really soils my shorts!!!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:45 | 1416396 flagg707
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While we are all stirring the pot, let's take it a step further:

Radiation detected in urine of the children in the report above = 2ish Ci/liter

Radiation in one banana = 100ish Ci/liter (

Yes, we should be appalled at the catastrophe in Fukushima.  Yes, people should be held accountable.  Yes it is horrible and yes, many countries will make a decision to end nuclear power because of it.

But maybe, just maybe, we should dial the fear meter down some so that real problems and real exposure issues (such as potentially massive exposures to workers) don't get lost in fear-mongering to generate eyeballs to a site.

Now, I realize ZH has adopted their line on this and there can be no retreat or context (such as the rad dose released outside the plant over the course of a year vs. the effects of running a coal plant on human health, much less compared to drinking, sunbathing, driving a car, riding a bike or smoking), but by going DEFCON 1 on every single story, we miss the truly important stuff (rad materials in the groundwater, condition of the piping inside the plant, reports that the Prime Minister of Japan directly interfered in the emergency response, etc.)

But why talk context when there is fear to sell.  Let the flames begin...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:49 | 1416412 Tyler Durden
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You are absolutely correct: the Sankei Shinbun generated a ton of traffic with this headline:

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:23 | 1416548 slewie the pi-rat
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@ flagg 707:  huh?  from zH:  The highest amount of cesium-134 was from an 8-year-old girl, at 1.13 becquerels per liter. The highest amount of cesium-137 was from a 7-year-old boy, at 1.30 becquerels per liter.

you think this = 2ish Ci/liter?  you sound like the state mathematician witness @ the OJ trial.

the wiki page has no information about urine after eating bananas.  if you want to compare what goes in to what goes goes out, you are the shits. 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:29 | 1416553 Stoploss
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Where the fuck were you when i was crawling around half lit up like a christmas tree, with the 'it's gonna be fine' bullshit??

You don't have a clue as to what your talking about.


Fucking RETARD.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:52 | 1416626 citta vritti
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ty flagg707.

fwiw, here’s a link to an interesting read from mid-April this year over at Slate, about needing population samples of millions, rather than the sad one of the 100,000 or so survivors from Hiroshima, to establish safe/unsafe threshholds relating to low level radiation and placing the important issues of risk and probability in context (aside from just saying no to any, which seems to work in the real world with radiation about as well as it does with lots of other things).

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:59 | 1416665 Fukushima Sam
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Nuclear shill?

What will you say when these kids develop cancer over the next ten years.

Oh yeah, by then you will care even less.

Fuck you.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:51 | 1416409 Texas Ginslinger
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Blair, Nebraska, population 8,000 is less than 10 miles NW of the FT. Calhoun plant.

Upriver they have less to worry about.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:49 | 1416414 Waterfallsparkles
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I am worried about the IPhone IPad, Aapl Computer parts all of the batteries, glass, and chips are manufactured in Japan.

I am also worried about Japanese Cars.  I think they will have radioactive steel and parts.

I haven't eated seafood since the Radioactive leak, or bought tuna fish.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:00 | 1416449 Cognitive Dissonance
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You should have stopped eating seafood when we learned of the BP/Gulf of Mexico disaster.

Oh well, that's all just oil over the dam at this point.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:51 | 1416428 slewie the pi-rat
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"There is a very high possibility that children in and around Fukushima City have been exposed to internal radiation. Prior to the [Fukushima] accident, these numbers would have been zero."

i think internal radiation is from ingesting radioactive substances.  (Paste) Inside the body, these elements also have biological half-lives — how long it takes the body to eliminate them. For iodine and cesium in adults, the overall half-life is about three months, though it varies by organ, and children tend to clear the substances faster. (End Paste)

i don't know if this is true or not, since it is from the nytimes.  Measuring Radioactive Elements and Their Effects -

according to this article, these two elements I & Cs are beta & gamma producers, much like a radioactive squid.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:03 | 1416696 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Chernobyl taught the world that the thyroid is the most vulnerable to uptake of I-131. Due to how long it stays in the body or the sensitivity to betas, I'm not sure.  All i know is that there were too many people hundreds of miles down wind from Chernobyl that developed thyroid cancer and the risk increase was noteably higher in children. 

Typical MSM propaganda.  If you live downwind from Ft. Calhoun, you should have already have your KI pills to prevent the thyroid from holding any of the I-131 in your body for longer than normal.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:46 | 1416877 slewie the pi-rat
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andy:  this is from the nytimes link abt 2" above your fabulous eyebrows.

Radioactive elements are emitting energy all the time, and their existence is measured by half-life — how long it takes for half of a given amount to give off its radiation and decay into a different material. For iodine 131, the half life is short, only about eight days. But for cesium 137, it is about 30 years. A rule of thumb is that it takes ten half-lives for a substance to be essentially gone, which means less than three months for iodine 131, but 300 years for cesium 137.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:02 | 1417265 12ToothAssassin
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And the "iodine 131, the half life is short, only about eight days" assumes that you have only been exposed once, not constantly exposed therefore never effectively eliminating the substance.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:59 | 1416442 SoNH80
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Given the huge reserves of cheap, easy-to-mine soft coal around Nebraska (Wyoming, Dakotas), and the relatively low population density, why the hell would anyone build a nuke plant there anyway???

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:59 | 1416457 Cognitive Dissonance
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Because with the relatively low population density it was easier to overcome nuclear reactor plant siting/location resistance. And of course the carrot was all those high quality jobs to sway those on the fence.

Besides the government was gonna watch the boiling pot anyway, so what's to worry?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:03 | 1416471 SoNH80
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Yeah, a time bomb for every state.  Seabrook, N.H. (one of America's 'newest' plants) bankrupted our major utility and took 20 years to build, insane cost overruns.  But the local trade unions picketed in favor, and were against the hippies shouting and banging drums, carrying on.  But the hippies were right!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:23 | 1416546 Cognitive Dissonance
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I was one of those 'hippies'.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:51 | 1416610 SoNH80
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Thanks for trying to stop it.  Oh-- and BTW-- did you see Gov. Thomson in his battle gear?  I was making a reference to him mostly....

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:39 | 1416871 Cognitive Dissonance
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We knew deep down inside that it was a hopeless cause. But we did it anyway because it was 'the right thing to do'. Don't ya just love our naivete?

We would joke with each other by saying someday we would be able to say "I told you so".....though a serious problem was something we never ever wanted to happen because it would mean terrible suffering for some and long term problems for many.

When insanity reins it's tough to stand up and say no. Sort of like today with the PONZI. We here on ZH are a very small minority. As I learned decades ago, it really doesn't matter what we say, it's what the majority want to hear that matters. We speak to help a few more cross over from the twilight zone and visit sanity.

What we don't seem to understand is that for the vast majority sanity is simply too frightening and the cognitive dissonance it causes too painful to deal with. So much easier to settle down in front of the propaganda tube and let Calgon take you away.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:57 | 1417376 SoNH80
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Exactly, I couldn't say it better myself.  Too bad somebody junked our thread.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:07 | 1416487 NotApplicable
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Access to free cooling water.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:44 | 1416611 Cognitive Dissonance
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And every 500 years or so in great quantities.

Is it no longer a 500 year flood if you have two in 10 years? Just askin'

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:02 | 1416695 NotApplicable
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I was told there would be no math.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:00 | 1416461 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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You guys called this one right from the start.  In the pit of my stomach, I knew you were right to incessantly harp on this story over and over and not let it die.  


Shame on the bullies who tried to shout down chicken little.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:06 | 1416483 steve from virginia
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The real story is in Fukushima, not in the US.

The chance for a radiation release in the flooded reactors exists but a severe failure as in Fukushima is unlikely. The Fukushima situation is a lot worse than most people suspect. It's bad enough, does not need embellishment.

The real problem w/ all reactors is they need 'economic growth' to pay for their tending. In a depression economy there are no funds to manage them even in shutdown. This is not the issue in USA reactors now.

Japan reactors is another story as Fukushima calamity can and likely will bankrupt Japan.

Problems @ Fukushima include:

 - Tsunami of irradiated waste-water with no place to put it.

 - Soil under plants saturated with radioactive water: an aftershock can cause the reactor foundations to shift or settle which has happened already w/ unit 4.

 - Reactor 3 increases in temperture, an explosion is not out of the question, this time of the fuel itself or a steam explosion of corium reaching groundwater.

 - The collapse of unit 4 leaving its spent fuel to catch fire. Tokyo would become Kystym and would have to be abandoned, probably for 3- 400 years.

 - Any of the other 3 reactors could collapse with similar result. Japan has almost 2,000 tons of fuel @ Fukushima Daiichi as well as all that water.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:08 | 1417278 12ToothAssassin
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Calhoun having been shut down since April for refueling doesnt have a ton of meltdown potential outside of the spent fuel pool contamination but Cooper, that one could get hot sooner than later.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:13 | 1416494 Texas Ginslinger
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NRC concerned about what would happen if a dam fails upstream from Nebraska nuke plants — They’ve had some ‘issues’ corps tells Omaha official
June 30th, 2011 at 02:35 PM

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:17 | 1416506 Maximus Failius
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Someone check my math here, otherwise it looks like the 1010 wate rlevel has been or is VERY close to being breached:


If levels exceeded 1,004 feet, water would reach the lower floodgates, hampering the welding of plates to door frames, the NRC said. At 1,008.5 feet, the technical support center used by emergency technicians would have been inundated. At 1,010 feet, water would begin to enter the auxiliary building, “shorting power and submerging pumps. The plant could then experience a station blackout with core damage estimated within 15 to 18 hours,” under a worst-case scenario, the NRC said.



if you go the following website, it appears that the water level at Calhoun is over 1008 and at about 1009 ft at this time as of 1pm CDT June 30

Base gauge height (zero flood stage) is at 977.44 ft above sea level and the last water level reading was 32.33 ft. 977.44 + 32.33 = 1009.77ft.






Notice the following flood forecast for the Blair gauge;

BLAIR 26.5 32 TO 34 33.50-1952 26.93

the reactor blacks out at a water level of 1010 ft. base don a “Zero” guage of 977.44 that means that the reactor blacks-out at (1010-977.44) 32.56 ft

Hydrologic Outlook

FGUS73 KOAX 220140

840 PM CDT TUE JUN 21 2011




——– — ——————— ———- ————–
SIOUX CITY 30 35 TO 37 44.28-1952 25.49

DECATUR 35 40 TO 42 43.50-1943 31.42

BLAIR 26.5 32 TO 34 33.50-1952 26.93

OMAHA 29 34 TO 36 40.20-1952 28.74

NEB. CITY 18 27 TO ABOVE 28* 27.19-1993 25.21

BROWNVILLE 33 43 TO ABOVE 44* 44.30-1993 42.89

RULO 17 25.5 TO ABOVE 27* 26.63-2010 26.63
——– — ——————— ———- ————–





per the hydrological website the river gauge was at 32.7 feet on the 29th. my math may be off for whatever reason, but they are toeing the line either way at this point.

NOAA flood warning:

Statement as of 9:50 AM CDT on June 30, 2011

The Flood Warning continues for
the Missouri River near Blair.
* At 9:16 am Thursday the stage was 32.5 feet.
* Flood stage is 26.5 feet.
* Moderate flooding is occurring and moderate flooding is forecast.
* Forecast… the river will continue rising to near 32.5 feet by this
afternoon. Additional rises may be possible thereafter.
* Impact… at 30.0 feet… floodwaters will impact I-29 in areas north
of The Crescent and I-680 interchange.




Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:16 | 1416522 SoNH80
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How's this for a 'margin of safety'??? 6 feet, the height of a man.

According to OPPD, the plant is designed to withstand waters up to 1,014 feet above mean sea level. The river is not expected to exceed 1,008 feet. NRC officials were at the plant at the time and NRC statements said the plant remains safe. NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko confirmed the plant's safety when he visited the plant on June 27.[28][29]

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:26 | 1416541 Maximus Failius
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So who is correct, Jackzo's press statement or the NRC report???



From NRC 2010 Assessment]


When NRC inspectors decided to take a close look at Fort Calhoun’s flood protections in 2009, they found a range of barriers that reached nearly to the 1,010-foot level. The precise level — 1,009.5 feet — is written into the plant’s operating licenses as a flooding “design basis” threat that the plant must be guarded against. But OPPD had also committed to protect the plant’s reactor systems against floodwaters reaching 1,014 feet, the NRC says — a level that might be reached if the Gavins Point Dam upriver on the Missouri in South Dakota were breached.

OPPD planned to extend the barrier to 1,014 feet by stacking sandbags on top of some steel floodgates that protected the auxiliary building, and to use more sandbags to safeguard the water intake structure and its essential cooling water pumps.

The NRC inspectors rejected that strategy. “The sandbagging activity would be insufficient,” the NRC concluded in a July 15, 2010, letter to OPPD. The half-inch cross section on the top of the floodgates was too small to support a 5-foot stack of sandbags hit by swirling floodwaters, the agency said.

OPPD spokesman Jones said the heart of the dispute is a disagreement in how the utility and the NRC assess the plant operator’s responsibilities. “We presented our analysis to them, which we felt indicated that the design basis [for the flooding threat] should remain 1,009 feet,” rather than 1,014 feet, he said.


After OPPD assembled a panel of experts last year to contest the NRC’s judgment, the agency fired back with an even stiffer dismissal of the utility’s plans.

OPPD said that if a flood threatened to go past 1,009 feet, it would weld steel plates over some of the doors to the auxiliary building, containing essential control equipment to manage reactor cooling. (Other barriers would be fitted into slots at entranceways.)

The utility said the plant’s fire engine could also be lifted onto the deck of the turbine building alongside the reactor to pump floodwaters from that building.

New defenses still under evaluation

The NRC responded in its October 2010 letter that once flooding reached 1,004 feet, water would have entered the plant and the ability of emergency workers to move around the site would “significantly degrade.”

If levels exceeded 1,004 feet, water would reach the lower floodgates, hampering the welding of plates to door frames, the NRC said. At 1,008.5 feet, the technical support center used by emergency technicians would have been inundated. At 1,010 feet, water would begin to enter the auxiliary building, “shorting power and submerging pumps. The plant could then experience a station blackout with core damage estimated within 15 to 18 hours,” under a worst-case scenario, the NRC said.

The NRC concluded that the use of the fire truck for emergency pumping would fail, after it determined the truck could not draw floodwaters successfully from the turbine building. Moreover, it was not clear how workers could operate a crane to lift the fire truck into position if outside power were lost, the NRC staff added


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:42 | 1416604 buzzsaw99
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they built this nuke plant in a flood zone on purpose? :munches popcorn:

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:54 | 1416638 SoNH80
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I suppose the reasonable conclusion for area residents, given this "battle of the red lines", is to pack up the truck with as much as possible, and plan to stay at Aunt Bea's in Cedar Rapids or wherever for a while....

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:24 | 1416534 Texas Ginslinger
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The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is asking for an explanation of the flooding that would occur should a dam break upstream of two Nebraska nuclear plants it monitors.

Combined, the six U.S. Army Corps of Engineers dams on the flood-swollen Missouri River comprise one of the largest reservoir systems in the country. The dams are releasing historic amounts of water during what will be a summer of managed flooding in the Missouri River valley.

On Wednesday, the NRC regional office that oversees Nebraska sent an official request to the corps for its 2009 and 2010 analyses of what would happen if a dam fails.

Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station, 19 miles north of Omaha, has been taken offline because of the flooding. The river surrounds the plant to a depth of about two feet.

About 70 miles south of Omaha, Cooper Nuclear Station remains online. On Thursday, the river was about three feet below the level that would require the plant to shut down.

Anton Vegel, director of the division of reactor safety for the Arlington, Tex., office of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission made the request to Col. Robert J. Ruch, commander of the Omaha District of the corps. The Omaha district oversees the dams.

The dams themselves have had some issues, according to the corps, but nothing that affects their integrity, said John Bertino, head of dam safety for the Omaha district. While the amount of water being released from them is a record, the amount of water being held behind the is not, he said.

Still, the corps is monitoring the dams 24/7, with both engineers and electronic surveillance.

“They're performing really well,” Bertino said Thursday morning. “We don't see any concerns.”

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:12 | 1416741 slewie the pi-rat
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this is true:  the six U.S. Army Corps of Engineers dams on the flood-swollen Missouri River comprise one of the largest reservoir systems in the country. The dams are releasing historic amounts of water during what will be a summer of managed flooding in the Missouri River valley.    LOL!  way to stay on those meds, T_G!    me2.

due to the politics of the mighty missouri, this is a man- (and woman-) made flood, and  mark twain wld be sooo proud of this clusterfuk!  the dams were build for flood control and so peeps could live more safely along the edge of the flood plain, which is + for farming & commerce, eh? 

but... the friends of the more natural situ for the river thought more flooding would be nice. 

so, they had all these reports, meetings, elections, appointments, and many official 8X10 color photos, you may be assured. 

finally, they asked the river.  and the river said:  yes!

so they went ahead and designed the flooding for this summer.  this shit was a done deal b4 fuk_u was a gleam in tepco's eye. 

and now, the dams are still waaay full, so the planners can continue to make the river happy.  this is also s'posed to ++ biodiversity/ecosystems and may do the same for typhus.  so, the check w/ the army engineers is designed to be re-assuring to the folks along the mighty missouri:  they have a shit load of water stored up behind these dams and the reservoirs are fine, doggs.  continue to wear shades.  they are doing a great job of this and have the river level under complete control...

..unless there's, like, and earthquake or something...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 17:05 | 1416940 andybev01
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Nuclear typhus.



Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:33 | 1416562 walcott
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are earless rabbits deaf?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 17:07 | 1416945 andybev01
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Probably but they are ear-resistibly cute.

Seriously, I would buy one.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:33 | 1416575 walcott
Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:46 | 1416605 Rhea
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"The Fed may have stopped printing money, but that does not prevent Fukushima from printing radiation ..."

Mr. Durden this was a historical post. Pretty sad facts

backgrounded nevertheless the Truth. Thank you

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:43 | 1416606 Texas Ginslinger
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water level gauge just upstream from the plant;



Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:47 | 1416617 Captain Nukem
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An average banana contains 15 becquerels due to potassium 40 content. An average 70 Kg human contains 5400 becquerels, or 77 bq/kilogram.

So the Cs-134 levels being reported seem completely negligible.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:12 | 1416733 Fukushima Sam
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You should be worried about what you don't know.  This data is likely just the low-hanging fruit and more understanding will come over time.  Do you know how toxic plutonium is?  How about polonium?

The median lethal dose (LD50) for acute radiation exposure is generally about 4.5 Sv. The committed effective dose equivalent 210Po is 0.51 µSv/Bq if ingested, and 2.5 µSv/Bq if inhaled. Since 210Po has an activity of 166 TBq per gram (4,500 Ci/g) (1 gram produces 166×1012 decays per second), a fatal 4.5 Sv (J/kg) dose can be caused by ingesting 8.8 MBq (238 microcuries, µCi), about 50 nanograms (ng), or inhaling 1.8 MBq (48 µCi), about 10 ng. One gram of 210Po could thus in theory poison 20 million people of whom 10 million would die. The actual toxicity of 210Po is lower than these estimates, because radiation exposure that is spread out over several weeks (the biological half-life of polonium in humans is 30 to 50 days) is somewhat less damaging than an instantaneous dose. It has been estimated that a median lethal dose of 210Po is 0.015 GBq (0.4 mCi), or 0.089 micrograms, still an extremely small amount.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:53 | 1416894 PulauHantu29
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"But it's only a tiny leak," the Japanese Leader told his people.

How about all that delicious "glow in the dark" Nebraska corn that may come down the pike....other then that it's the "everything is fine" MSM news.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 17:19 | 1416969 andybev01
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Plus, it comes to your store already popped.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:21 | 1417316 12ToothAssassin
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And it never spoils

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:11 | 1417123 medicalstudent
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hepa. reverse osmosis. polimaster pm1208/terra mks 05.


pray for fair winds.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:20 | 1417138 majia
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Revealed: British government's plan to play down Fukushima


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:45 | 1417200 Cognitive Dissonance
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My my, but doesn't this sound like a governmental/corporate conspiracy? But I though conspiracies only existed in the minds of crazed conspiracy theorists?

I guess The Guardian has gone off the deep end and is now wearing tin foil hats. Shame on them for breaking the publics trust by reporting such nonsense. Everyone knows the government would never do such a thing.

Shame shame shame.


Thu, 06/30/2011 - 18:54 | 1417229 andybev01
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That would be an al-u-mini-um Bowler, thank-you-very-much.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:20 | 1417311 zorba THE GREEK
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 Japanese mother: "Why do my children glow in the dark?"  

 Official spokesman: "that's to make it easier for you to 

 locate them at night."

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 20:24 | 1417438 krispkritter
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Reminds me of the old Public Service Announcements, "Do you know where your children are right now?" If my old man could see me glowing in the dark I'd have been in a lot more shit. He actually trucked us to the grandparents during TMI because he didn't believe a word the media was saying. Having seen the release of the documents and Arnie Gunderson's expose on TMI, I'd have to say it was a good thing for us kids...I'd rather not have been pissing green during high school...

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 00:31 | 1417902 The Heart
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In reference to the overhead objective agenda of population control:

It is true. The elitist/bankster/govt/etc lackeys are killing us all off and this is the population control agenda hard at work. Put "population control agenda" into your search engine and read all about it. You will easily see this agenda in front of your face all over the world. The kill off of the human peoples is happening now and still not much is being done to stop it. The sheeple set for slaughter do nothing to save themselves or their families.

What is interesting is we have seen the build up of body bags and preparations for some kind of EVENT in that south-eastern bible belt region for years now. It is looking like a nuklear nightmare for everything east of the Rocky Mountains.

Fire, radiation, flooding, high solar activity and UV levels are all off the hook. Shake, rattle, and roll. Flash! Throw in the earth changes equation and maybe a false flag Event and you have it, chaos AS PLANNED. (4TH OF JULY?) More??

And here is a better more detailed story that really hits home:

We are getting lots of smoke here in the four corners region which means the smoke has gone west and north and east. It is a combination from the Arizona and Los Alamos regions and IT IS RADIOACTIVE.

A look at the EPA map shows two things. Rises of radiation measurements in the area, and the fact that many of the detection sites EAST of Los Alamos are not working or recording information. More COVER UP by the EPA/NRC/FDA and all the rest of the USELESS GOVT EATERS AND BREATHERS sucking fat federal pay checks for doing absolutely NOTHING to protect America or the world's people. They earn those fat pay checks for doing exactly opposite of what they are supposed to be doing and are perfectly kow-towing to the population control (kill off) agenda.

They talk about creating chaos. Take all this together and what is shaping up is not looking good. So many people know, but the question is what are they doing about it?

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