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Radiation At Fukushima Water Jumps To Over 1 Sievert, 10 Million Times Higher Than "Normal", Plutonium Tests Ordered For The First Time
And the hits just keep on coming. Earlier today, TEPCO announced that the radiation in the water pool of reactor #2 had been measured at 1,000 millisieverts/h (1 sievert/h) - the highest reading so far recorded since the Fukushima disaster started. As a reminder, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says a single dose of 1,000 millisieverts is enough to cause haemorrhaging, which a ten hour exposure to this dose is enough to result in death. "The situation is serious. They have to pump away this water on the floor, get rid of it to lower the radiation," said Robert Finck, radiation protection specialist at the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority, speaking before the operator expressed doubt about the high reading. "It's virtually impossible to work, you can only be there for a few minutes. It's impossible to say how long it will take before they can gradually take control." From Kyodo: "Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said the concentration of radioactive substances of the puddle was 10 million times higher than that seen usually in water in a reactor core, but later decided to reanalyze the data because it found some errors." And keep in mind this is the idiocy that is resulting after last week the brilliant geniuses at TECPO came up with the plan to water each and every reactor: now it's time to remove the water, but the water just happens to be so radioactive, nobody can remove it. In the meantime the leak into the ocean keeps getting worse: "Radioactive iodine-131 at a concentration 1,850.5 times the legal limit was detected in a seawater sample taken around 330 meters south of the plant, near a drainage outlet of the four troubled reactors, compared with 1,250.8 times the limit found Friday, the agency said." And while Zero Hedge has long believed that the only possible outcome here is the Plan Z concrete entombment, which will guarantee an 80 km non-inhabitable radius around Fukushima in perpetuity, finally the "experts" are warming up to this idea: per Reuters: "Experts say there is still too much heat in the reactor cores and spent fuel at the Fukushima plant for a similar last-ditch solution to be considered yet."
More from Reuters:
LEVELS 10 MILLION TIMES ABOVE NORMAL
The latest scare came as engineers were trying to pump radioactive water out of a turbine unit after it was found in buildings housing three of the reactors.
Officials at first said the water in No. 2 was found to contain 10 million times the amount of radioactive iodine that is normal in the reactor, but noted the substance had a half-life of under an hour, meaning it would disappear within a day.
Later they said the element that gave the reading may have been cobalt 56, which has a half life of 77 days, and if this was the case the level of radioactivity would have been far lower.
Radiation levels in the sea off the plant rose on Sunday to 1,850 times normal, from 1,250 on Saturday, Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.
"Ocean currents will disperse radiation particles and so it will be very diluted by the time it gets consumed by fish and seaweed," said Hidehiko Nishiyama, a senior agency official.
TOKYO RADIATION LEVELS NORMAL
The elevated radiation detected on Sunday was confined to the reactor, and radioactivity in the air beyond the evacuation zone around the plant remained in normal ranges.
In downtown Tokyo, a Reuters reading on Sunday afternoon showed ambient radiation of 0.16 microsieverts per hour, below the global average of naturally occurring background radiation of 0.17-0.39 microsieverts per hour.
Several countries have banned produce and milk from Japan's nuclear crisis zone and are monitoring Japanese seafood because of fears of radioactive contamination.
Kyodo news agency said Japan would call on World Trade Organisation members at a meeting this week not to overreact to the radiation scare and abide by rules that ban import restrictions not based on scientific grounds.
The accident has also triggered concern around the globe about the safety of nuclear power generation. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said it was time to reassess the international atomic safety regime.
The crisis looked set to claim its first, and unlikely, political casualty. In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel's party faced defeat in a key state on Sunday, largely because of her U-turn on nuclear power.
OVERSHADOWING RELIEF EFFORT
The drama at the plant has overshadowed a relief and recovery effort from the magnitude 9.0 quake and the huge tsunami it triggered that left more than 27,100 people dead or missing in northeast Japan.
In Otsu, 70 km (42 miles) south of the stricken nuclear facility, the townsfolk are faced with livelihoods derailed by the natural disaster and now the fear of radiation in the air.
Ninety-three-year-old Kou Murata sat cross-legged on the floor of a school classroom, her home for the past fortnight. Surrounded by piles of quilts and blankets, she fretted over what was to become of her in the twilight of her life.
"I am afraid because people are leaving, and we are alone," she said, looking small and frail in a jacket decorated with snowmen.
Murata's daughter, Hisae, said the government had not helped them.
"I want to go back home, but the situation is impossible," she said. "I applied to the government to get a temporary house, but we need a certificate to say the house was destroyed. Now all the temporary houses have been taken. We thought the government would come to us, but we need to go to them."
The first opinion poll to be taken since the disaster showed the approval rating for Prime Minister Naoto Kan had edged higher, to 28.3 percent, but more than half disapproved of how the nuclear crisis had been handled.
Making things much worse is that, apparently for the first time, TEPCO has ordered tests for highly toxic and extremely lethal plutonium on the site:
As the worst atomic accident since Chernobyl entered its third week, the government said soil near the Fukushima plant would be tested for plutonium contamination. The radioactive metal was used in one of the reactors and its presence outside the plant would suggest the fuel rods were damaged.
“I’ve said the situation won’t immediately improve, and high radiation water is one of the unexpected things that I had said might occur,” Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said at a briefing in Tokyo today. “We want to continue cooling, and establish a direction toward ending the situation.”
Soil samples have been taken and will be tested for plutonium, Edano told reporters.
Radiation leaks have contaminated vegetables in regions around the plant and sparked scares over tap water in Tokyo, 227 kilometers (140 miles) southwest of the Tokyo Electric Power Co. Dai-Ichi power station.
Which of course means that up until now nobody had been measuring for plutonium fall out. Brilliant.
And while nobody really knows anything that is happening at the plant, one thing we can be sure of is that the latest surge in radiation by 10E6, will cause Joe LaVorgna to hike his GDP forecast for Japan by a comparable amount.
Update: Now we get this hilariously farcical interlude:
The operator of Japan's stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant said on Monday a very high radiation reading that had sent workers fleeing the No. 2 reactor was erroneous.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) vice-president Sakae Muto apologised for Sunday's error, which added to alarm inside and outside Japan over the impact of contamination from the complex which was hit by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11.
In other news, radiation burns suffered by three TEPCO workers while puddling along reactor 2 was just due to unfortunate combination of too much sun and little to no tanning lotion. We are confident repair on Reactor 2 will proceed immediately...by mutant 3 eyed ill-tempered seabass. Or was the seawater radioactivity count faulty too?
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The virulent activity of the sockpuppets is an indication of how much of a problem this really is...
It is also a function of zh traffic.
Once again zero hedge spews crap:
"TEPCO retracts radioactivity test result
Tokyo Electric Power Company has retracted its announcement that 10 million times the normal density of radioactive materials had been detected in water at the Number 2 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
The utility says it will conduct another test of the leaked water at the reactor's turbine building.
The company said on Sunday evening that the data for iodine-134 announced earlier in the day was actually for another substance that has a longer half-life.
The plant operator said earlier on Sunday that 2.9 billion becquerels per cubic centimeter had been detected in the leaked water.
It said although the initial figure was wrong, the water still has a high level of radioactivity of 1,000 millisieverts per hour."
Feel free to spend your Sundays elsewhere then. Might I suggest the government church of government churchology, where you can learn to properly worship the state in all its might, and be fed the appropriate message at the appropriate time such that you do as our mighty God-president desires?
Bwahahaha...like these guys working in a nuclear power plant cant identify isotopes or use their equipment propertly. I mean that is 100% bullshit.
When somebody tries to spread the bs a little to widely it becomes obvious.
Now I know they are lying.
NASA makes little nuclear generators for its outer planetary exploration vehicles. Too far from the sun to use solar arrays. Japan needs to do the same and install them on its hybrid and electric vehicles to keep the batteries charged. In this way Japan can export its surplus radioactivity and, as we all know, if there is one thing the Japanese do well it is export.
Funny that there are already radioactive readings here in Europe, but not to worry! Japan is far far away!
on the positive side: It looks like there will be less cases of flue this year. Somehow it's like there are less germs... must be because of the supermoon....
ZH. Boldly advancing innumeracy and idiocracy where even the MSM fears to go.
Jesus, what is with all these cunts that registered about 44 weeks ago, and only post every few weeks, all of whom suddenly pop up and start shilling for the government this week?
I'm not normally paranoid, but all you fucks look the same to me. You can all get out if you don't like it.
Klingon disruptors. They even talk to each other LMAO!
Get rid of ThePhysicist and Tim73 and ColonelSun will disappear spontaneously. Bet on it :)
It is pretty strange, isn't it? MAde me think moe andmore that ZH is now a "controlled" asset.
Probably as heavily tracked as before, so no big deal I suppose.
But yes, all these newbie posters with long memberships is defiitely a RED flag.
Since they all talk like shills off a play-book.
ORI
Yes, these headlines here are more and more funny. Hopefully nothing bad happens in the USA because then it would not be very funny. People start making stupid decisions based on ZH kind of "news". Already people are buying iodide pills.
"“Inappropriate sales and stockpiling are also creating shortages that could adversely affect those consumers who have a real medical need for potassium iodide,” said Health Canada spokesman Gary Holub....
The Ontario Pharmacists’ Association has urged the public to exercise caution when ingesting potassium iodide. Possible side effects include severe allergic reactions, upset stomach, rashes and inflammation of salivary glands."
Translation: No lifesaving prevention for you until WE deem it necessary. And WE haven't determined it to be necessary for your own good. Yet.
Goddamned fucktards. Whatever they 'advise', do the opposite. If YOU want to.
tokyoreporter Tokyo Reporter
RT @martyn_williams TEPCO revises Iodine 134 level in reactor 2 turbine bldg water from "10 million times normal" to "100,000 times normal"
Good thing, I was considering being slightly concerned there for a second.
The fissile isotopes of plutonium have a half life of 24,100 years.
The reason life was able to evolve on earth was the fact that it took nearly 15 billion years to create an oasis free from the effects of atomic radiation; now, the barbarians at the gate have been let in. It's not looking very good folks, to those that poo-hoo the threat, you're dismissing 15 billion years of effort and evolution.
200 mREM a year is not radiation free.
Look up radiation hormesis.
- Consensus is the earth is 4.5 billion years.
- The earth's magnetic field, generated by it's metallic core, protects us from radiation.
- Evolution is a biological concept, not geological, and has little to do with protecting us from ionizing adiation.
Have to hand it to ZH. It has obviously hit the nail bang right on the head with this issue.
The virulent and vicious activity of the sock puppets, govt shills and nuclear industry shills are in over drive.
It means ZH is getting very near the truth.
I see the pissing contest continues.. If you have young kids, well you may want to consider buying milk now, dry milk is also good, just saying..
And keep in mind this is the idiocy that is resulting after last week the brilliant geniuses at TECPO came up with the plan to water each and every reactor: now it's time to remove the water, but the water just happens to be so radioactive, nobody can remove it. In the meantime the leak into the ocean keeps getting worse
Reminds me of what Bernanke has been doing. Taking desperate action knowing that in the end it won't work . . . but it does buy some time. Maybe TEPCO should have called the plant watering the "Plutonium Overheating Mitigation Operation" (POMO).
In TEPCO's case, they probably wanted to buy time to evacuate more people in the area surrounding the plant. In Bernanke's case, I can only speculate on what the purpose is. Buy his Wall Street pals some more time to build their EOTWAWKI fortresses in the mountains, perhaps.
Because Beranke won't be able to "remove the water" either, regardless of what he says.
WTF were they supposed to do...let the things melt down and start burning?
No.
My point was that although they probably realized it wouldn't solve the problem, it did have one (and probably only one) upside feature: it bought them time to continue evacuations in an orderly way.
So we agree . . . they had to do it.
I simply don't believe anybody can be as continually incompetent and slip shod as TEPCO. It is not possible, these people are not dumb, not stupid, they have a world wide resource of expertise to call on in need. They don't have to make half arsed bs plans up as they go along then seemingly look stupid in the execution.
When you see professionals behaving like amateurs something is well and truly up.
You are in Plato's cave, watching shadows on the wall. You do not know what is actually being done. All you know is what is being presented. The shadows on the wall make you think the professionals are behaving like amateurs. Maybe they are. But the shadows on the wall only tell part of the story.
http://www.nsc.go.jp/NSCenglish/topics/safety_goals.htm
The Nuclear Safety Commission (NSC)
Safety Goals
The mean value of acute fatality risk by radiation exposure resultant from an accident of a nuclear installation to individuals of the public, who live in the vicinity of the site boundary of the nuclear installation, should not exceed the probability of about 1x10-6 per year. And, the mean value of fatality risk by latent cancer caused by radiation exposure resulting from an accident of a nuclear installation of individuals of the public, who live in the area but some distance from the nuclear installation, should not exceed the probability of approximately 1x10-6 per year. _____________________ or as Nassim Taleb points out(that is , at least 1 per million years)".
That policy was designed only 8 years ago. Their one in a million-year accident almost occurred about 8 year later (I am not even sure if it is at best a near miss)
- Amazing!!!Sounds like a good time to invest in lead plate manufacturers.
The Japanese will do nothing without instructions from their US and UK corpocracy masters. They are completely clueless about the scope of the disaster. Remember Chernobyl where 800,000 workers helped clean up the mess. This is far worse and they are sending a few firefighters. Clueless! The Japanese are totally stupid. They will destroy South Korea, Canada and the US west coast. Time to send the drones in!
Even more panicky than Americans in this are Germans with their green madness. Shutting down seven nuclear reactors basically for "we feel your pain too". Then start burning more coal to cover the energy deficit. Really idiotic. Not to even mention buying a lot of gas from Russia...
This was just a 3 month "moratorium". A political trick of a former communist. Merkel is a totalitarian freak and a bilderberg stooge. Nobody knows whether the reactors are still running or not. PR is everything these days. The truth doesn't matter.
If someone in the USA bought iodide pills and then died of severe allergic reaction, would he be considered a Darwin award candidate?
Definitely.
Or killed in a traffic accident rushing from pharmacy to pharmacy.
Look, idiot, we know you are the same person. It is abundantly clear. Just give it up.
Also, get out.
Need ZH to analyze these videos. Let me know what you see common between the two.
A mass chicken cull is underway in Japan to try and contain a second outbreak of bird flu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edXRtn6y5O4
Radiation spikes to 1,000 times normal in sea near Fukushima
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjfipujSRgU
If they say they have to cull all the cows because of cow flu then you know somethings is not right.
Have to say that the Friday bird flu outbreak is rather a strange coincidence.
No. Look at the white suits. In second video they attempt to use a blue PVC curtain to protect themselves.
ENERGY RESOURCE-18 September 2006-IAEA Purchases Anti-Nuclear Body Suits from Radiation Shield Technologies
Radiation Shield Technologies, Inc. (RST) announced today that it was awarded an international tender issued by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Under this tender, the IAEA has agreed to purchase Anti-Nuclear Full Body suits from the Miami, FL based Radiation Shield Technologies, Inc. The suits will be used by United Nations Development Program in Belarus under Project 9012 aimed at Strengthening the System of Emergency Preparedness and Response to Radiation Emergencies.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52196.php
Demron Fabric Radiation Resistant and Anti Nuclear Suit - CNM News Jan 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV-s14_qoCs
Your bird flu video was posted on January 24th, 2011. This multi-dimensional disaster has plenty to keep up with without people dredging up months old news and implying it's relevant to the current situation. Stop it.
Stop what? You fell for the sheepleville story. The MSM editorial department didn't check the facts. Workers are wearing the wrong suits to combat a nuclear epidemic. Are the suits on back order or is the 'high level' sensationalize to capture an audience?
Your turn..
I can only come to one conclusion based on the BS behaviour of the Govt and TEPCO since this issue began and the pessemistic words of the Japanese PM.
Things at the Fukushima Daiichi reactors are so fucked up that they don't know what to do and are left making out they are doing something constructive.
Wow i feel humbled in the presence of so many nuclear scientists............
Radiation is good for you,Ann Coulter says so therefore it is true.
I don't think it matters if it is a gajillion/godzillion/sushitrillion whatevers at the Fuckyoushima plant right now,one particle of plutonium gets inside of you and your history.
Its all just pie in the sky and the GE shills are out in force today,everything is fine,get back to your frozen TV dinner and shut the fuck up...............Bread and Circus for the masses!
Oh and that Toxic green rain? Thats those green shoots of happiness that Uncle "Helicopter" Bernie promised you all,get out their and drink that shit up.
"Now i have a fuckyoushima sludge shake and you have a fuckyoushima sludge shake but i have a straw"
"Keep watching the straw"
"SLUURRP I DRINK YOUR SLUDGY FUCKYOUSHIMA MILKSHAKE!"
"I DRINK IT UP!"
[wow the koolaid is making me feel tipsy hic]
I don't think it matters if it is a gajillion/godzillion/sushitrillion whatevers at the Fuckyoushima plant right now,one particle of plutonium gets inside of you and your history.
So what risk would I rather take? Ingesting an atom of Pu or crossing the street? I'll take the atom of Pu every time. The problem is bad enough without adding unfounded hysteria.
But you are correct about one thing: fear. Most of it is irrational. And still it drives people.
I spoke to a Water Quality Engineer, PHd this morning regarding removing radioactive contaminants from the Tokyo water answer was nothing that they can do except dose the water with clean minerals to displace the contaminated ones in your body. FUN !
At this point Tepco needs to call in a hundred trucks full of shotcrete or Gunite. With gunite you can move tons and tons of material through hoses to create a shield wall in a very short time. Mix iron ore with it to increase the Z and start building tunnels and access passageways around the Fukushima plants to protect the workers while they make repairs. Sandbags, lead bricks, and lead shot bags work well, too but they have to be carried. They need to quickly gunite the breakwater around the power plant to keep in all the radioactive contamination pouring into the ocean. Anything less than an all-out effort is criminal.
You need to back-up the shoot with something,a form of some sort.I agree with your premise though,start walling this fucker in. it's going to take a conductor to orchestrate this thing .
Shotcrete goes in so thick and heavy you can free-form almost anything - tunnels, walls, ponds, or even swimming pools! The thing about it is that you can move huge amounts of material through hundreds of feet of hose very quickly. They could go all over the walls of the control rooms and passageways so the nuclear workers could move about and work in safety.
Disaster capitalism painted itself in a corner
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/03/28/110328ta_talk_surowiecki
This piece focusses on (what he calls) a "jacuzzi effect". A phenomenon first put into a modern economic context by Jan Romein: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Law_of_the_handicap_of_a_... In his short analasys Surowiecki tries to give the sitation a positive swing towards the "doom prophecy" of a destroyed prefecture (or, worst case destroyed country). It's another take on the merit of "disaster capitalism", but then wrapped in soothing wordplay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9CM_J00bw
Granted, his example of Kobe's disaster speaks chapters for the japanese nation and their collective resolve, which is admirable.
However, in his enthousiasm to keep the "positive train" going, he forgets a few crucial things: This "jacuzzi effect" is even more viable for REPLACING ALL OLD FISSION NUCLEAR PLANTS worldwide during a tightening phase of oil production. Or, taking it a step further, to develop and incorporate a long overdue replacement for fossile fuel. (Which would IMO spark a worldwide economic boom, if introduced at a grassroots level) But, of course, this doesn't enter his arguably conditioned mind. Moreover his idea of "modern economies are resillient against disasters" obviously doesn't include the possibillity of "dead spots" caused by extensive radioactive contamination. And the scale of this loss of production is something wich can destabillise the global system of "free" trade, something which hinges now on BOJ and FED intervention. (i.o.w. kicking the can/bubble down the road) It's not 1995 (Kobe); we're obviously at the end/beginning of an economic cycle, and Surowiecki doesn't see Japans economy in light of china's new position and growth in emerging nations. He does see massive cost/debt as a result of the rebuild, but fails to draw the dotted line towards the US and ECB collective debt. Who's going to lend the money to Japan? China? Or are they going to sell their US treasuries? Which would be most logical? Can they even do that? It'd send the treasuries worth to unexpected lows. I doubt they can. What seems obvious (sell assets to attain liquidity to fix a disaster) may not be possible at all, because of the instabillity of this asset in a wider context.
Conclusion:
It's wrong to see events that have global inpact in such an isolated context. Surowiecki sees a localised "jacuzzi effect" but fails to acknowledge the western apex of the global financial system has resisted (at all cost) a raplacement for their leaky bank bathtub.
Cheerio!
Not to start a red-herring war or anything, but if you had even 1% of the replacement you would be selling it and drinking cocktails with funny little umbrellas in them on a beach somewhere, enjoying the proceeds.
Consider the hubris in advocating something that you expect someone else to invent, upon which your own life relies. And the insane premise that if you only tax them enough and lower their standard of living enough by denying them energy, they will invent it faster, and the proceeds from their invention will make YOU rich.
Be careful. Maybe the guns your scheme relies on will end up pointed at YOU. Maybe they already are.
LOL you may have misunderstood. Or perhaps not.
I was hinting towards entrepeneurship - grass roots business instead of a centralised, centrally planned energy supply strategy, the likes of gov./Tepco solutions (basically corporatist state planning), since that centrally arranged one now obviously has taken a wrong turn somewhere.
In a nutshell; the NWO guys messed up in Fukushima (and elsewhere). Or was that "Ordo Abchao". Nevermind... it's just bollocks anyway, they messed up, and now try to cover this up. (Excuse my french.)
At some point the black sticky stuff is going to run out, or become scarce entough to not be a global solution. Before, not after that moment, the kookoopuffs of planet earth should refind their courage to try something different again. Like Helium 3 from the moon.
I sincerely apologise for stating the obvious. ;-P
My personal play is somewhere else. FWIW I have no horse in this race, apart from that I like the planet, for I call it my home. And though I do have a masters, it's not in physics.
Now.. where's my cheezewhip?
*)double post
...NEWZ FLASH....
radiation levels are being reported as a "Godzillion" times higher than the tap water in tokyo
ZH needs an insider, or somebody in the know in Japan to reveal wtf is happening.
Anybody in Fukushima in the know? Send it to ZH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnvzWrxRFd0
Japan's Nuclear Future: 2009
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Lots of skeletons in the closet.
By now many Germans and Americans are glowing in the dark due to stupefying iota radiation. This will also cause what scientists call Green Madness Syndrome. Symptons include the following among others: irrational talk, panic attacks, uncontrolled crying, screaming and spinning around. If the victim starts bashing his head against the wall, call 911. Although, it might be already too late!
Seems you've been drinking too much of that tapwater, bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE7OK9sMDvo
Now you did, I suggest you drink more.
Two days ago we watched a video of a meeting last week with the most senior Russian scientist who also advised on the sarcophagus construction at Chernobyl. He was in Japan at the request of the government for advice on their problems. He said that after giving them his best advice, they totally ignored all of it and were merely seeking to save face.
He said that he told them to immediately evacuate everyone in a 100 km diameter circle around Fukushima. He also measured the radiation in the soil 60 km from Fukushima and found it was twice as bad as the same measurements taken at the same distance from Chernobyl in 1986. He also said there would be no food grown there again. Ever. Not only that, but the irradiation of the ground water would affect Tokyo itself. He said that there is no safe water in Tokyo at present, nor will there ever be again. Evidently the bureaucrats have given no thought to the evacuation of Tokyo (30 million residents). His most telling comment was that the problems at Fukushima have not even started yet. It will get worsr & worse until they put it all in a proper containment structure, which will take years.
And the best of British Luck to all the world's incompetent bureaucrats. (Which is ALL of them)
Whether the reading of "10 million times normal" is (1) accurate, (2) is accurate and now being downplayed to avoid a panic or (3) the giegometer got such a shock it had cardiac arrest is irrelevant. The key is that have found the caesium 134 isotope. This is bad news because it is only generated during fission. This means that the reactor is leaking and that a melt down may be in progress. It could get to a point where nobody will survive for long going anywhere near the reactor. Once that restriction occurs, the reactor will only get hotter and potentially then requires a pull out of the Fukishima 50 from all the other reactors. Chernolbyl x 10?
Too much Doom ... I need to take a smoke.
I131 is the real clue.
Cs can be found in spent fuel.
The tests are very easy to run with a GCMS. What they are saying now is that they are going to release the results.
From AP:
"A few hours later, TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto said a new test had found radiation levels 100,000 times above normal — far better than the first results, though still very high.
But he ruled out having an independent monitor oversee the various checks despite the errors."
This explains why we should be distrustful of TEPCO IMO.
According to Trav777 the independent sources cannot be trusted to be as unbiased and objective as the good folks in charge of TEPCO.
Is there any depth of shameless lying you moonbats will not sink to in order to bullshit and lie?
I never said anything of the kind. Incapable of besting me in debate or refuting fact, you resort to drive-by bullshitting.
Trav,
Your olny problem is that you are an optimist. Not a good habit for an engineer.
How do you call stating facts optimism? Being realistic is neither optimism nor pessimism.
You mean you don't think that?
Japan nuclear regulator: no chance radioactive water could enter sea
TOKYO, March 27 | Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:07am EDT
TOKYO, March 27 (Reuters) - There is no chance that highly radioactive water from reactor tubine buildings at Japan's stricken nuclear plant could flow into the sea, the country's Nuclear Safety Agency said on Sunday.
"It is inconceivable that this should happen. We think there is no chance of the stagnant water (in the buildings) flowing directly into the ocean," a senior agency official told a news briefing when asked about such a scenario.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
"you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/27/japan-radiation-idUSS7E7ER0002...
MOX...MOX fuel contains plutonium blended with natural uranium, reprocessed uranium, or depleted uranium. You wonder why they have silenced the MSM? The one word that scares the shit out of them is plutonium. If they give us the real plutonium readings then most of you naysayers will be silenced as well. What is happening is we now have 3 runaway reactors, two which contain MOX. The panic factor would be too high for them to tell the truth so they are scrambling to find a way to cover the situation to keep 14 million people from going into full panic mode. Truth is, the situation will continue to deteriorate and sooner then later they will have to release the truth. If the MOX fuel continues its meltdown and breaches more containment rods, then evacuation of Tokyo will be inivetible. The only savior thus far for TEPCO has been the wind, if their luck changes and it brings this toxic cloud inland, look out below. If plutonium fears rise in Japan then we may finally start to hear more truth which will lead to higher concerns coming from other people on the planet that will be affected as well.
I wouldn't wory much about depleted uranium. The fears of that stuff are somewhat overblown. Plutonium - if inhaled is another matter.
bring the barges and drone fleet.
bring the concrete and the hoses.
lets concrete this bitch over so you can see it from outer space.
fuckyoushima cannot continue unabated.
Question. Does Tepco have all the needed materials if (and when) it is decided that they must bury the reactors? I wonder if they have been brushing up on the Chernobyl disaster and made plans for their "sarcophagus".
Or will we hear soon that they need to order materials and don't know how long until the trucks with sand, lead and concrete will arrive.
Fukushima plant disaster + Tepco management = Clusterfuck.
Radiation is dispersed in seawater, only to be reconcentrated in plankton. Whales injest plankton, and the Japanese hunt and eat whales. Circle complete.
The comments here have gotten to the point they are less useful than the power company press releases. For all of you who ruined a public forum by talking about how big your dicks are when you had no hard information to offer - I won't waste time reading the comments about this disaster here again.
For all of you who ruined a public forum by talking about how big your dicks are when you had no hard
Here is new measurment data from TEPCO, correcting the mistaken one ( columns 2-4, 4 being latest measurment):
There are no billions of becquerels, anymore, but:
http://saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=2657&start=180
Last row ( total activity) has increased slightly (5%) in the last 10 hours.
Summary of thread:
Trav advocates scepticism, reminds dogmatists not to assume the worst in the absence of facts.
Dogmatists claim that not assuming the worst amounts to uncritical acceptance of TEPCO info; or that lives are at stake, and that scepticism inhibits action.
Trav notes that internet comment threads are the epitome of inaction.
Trav why do you bother with these sad fucks? Wanking off to the apocalypse makes perfect libinal sense in our society. You may as well go to a tit forum and tell everyone to calm the fuck down. Fukushima is going to ejaculate any day now and whole group's going to simultaneously jizz their nuts dry for decades. Get with the programme.
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I'm not unwanted here by anybody but you and your clown brigade."
Then Trav777 just put the link in your first post to the retraction, pretty simple. That way we don't have to dig through 777 post trying to get to the information at hand.
I'm sure TD is slammed as well as you stated you can't dig through all the post on one page. Picture TD trying to bring valuable info to the site?
I have only posted on zerohedge once before, but read the site often for updated new's. I'm sure we are all just trying to get to the fact's. I'm also fairly sure most here don't believe the crisis new's out of Tepco, so link's to fact's or retractment's are much appreciated, not tasteless bla bla every other post. IMHO.
Nice quote:
"The situation is serious. They have to pump away this water on the floor, get rid of it to lower the radiation," said Robert Finck, radiation protection specialist at the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority, speaking before the operator expressed doubt about the high reading.
"get rid of it"?! WTF?
Total credibility fail. When a nuclear "radiation protection specialist" uses the highly technical term "get rid of it," to my mind this translates to "pump it directly into the ocean." I seriously doubt pro-nuke folks and their technical "experts" realize the immensity of the credibility chasm they have created for themselves.
Obama can fix it -- albeit he'll need more money.
Remember kids, even though the radiation at the plant is 1 BILLION times normal, the radioactivity in Tokyo is normal.
That's the "money meme". Tokyo is OK, so just go to work, consume and STFU.
/sarc
They can't have them leaving because others would, and then the Euro would be weakened and then much of the Euro denominated financial instruments would lose value and cause a cascade of defaults. And to be honest with you it still won't hurt Greece because even though they will have a lower valued old currency, it will still be used and their debt will be restructured on THEIR terms not ECB terms.
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This was later sold on the open market for use in commercial reactors throughout the US. It is a great way to eliminate the proliferation risk associated with decaying weapons stockpiles. I believe the US has been actively doing this as well for her own retired stockpile, but I don't have any references.
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It was the fault of the Japanese for allowing such a reactor to be built in that location without additional safety measures being required. That's the real story here. That and the shitty enforcement of already lax safety standards.
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I made this Youtube video with pieces from part 3 of the BBC documentary, “The Power of Nightmares”. It explains the Precautionary Principal and where
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