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After travelling in the first class confines of the Gulf/Jetstream for the past 3 days, the Fukushima radiation has finally reached California. This happens just as The Hill reports Obama has oredered a full review of all US nuclear power plants. Look for the nuclear pair trade to become all the rage in the next week.

From Reuters:

Very low concentrations of radioactive particles believed to have come from Japan's Fukushima nuclear power plant have been detected on the U.S. west coast, diplomatic sources said on Friday.

The level of radiation was far too low to cause any harm to humans, they said.

One diplomat, citing information from a network of international monitoring stations, described the material as "ever so slight" and consisting of only a few particles.

"It is very low level," another source in Vienna said.

Until it isn't. Any since when are diplomats nuclear power experts?

 


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Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Spitzer
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Anti nuclear bullshit

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:38 | Link to Comment velobabe
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He said none of the interventions would be in English, as it would be unlawful to "address US audiences" with such technology, and any English-language use of social media by Centcom was always clearly attributed. The languages in which the interventions are conducted include Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and Pashto.

i am unfamiliar with these last three languages. probably aren't romance ones, just sayin.....

desperation row†

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:42 | Link to Comment pan-the-ist
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That makes me feel better.  They would never lie to us.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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+1

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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how do I know you're not them telling me sarcastically they would never lie. Shit I'm confused, it's working.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Judge Judy Scheinlok
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I wonder if any other websites use 'sock puppet' to create identities? What do you think Davey?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I always thought Judge Judy had something stuck up her ass.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Oh it's on now! Cat Fight Club coming to a blog near you!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Hey. Keep me out of it.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:31 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Now, ladies.  Don't get into it until the jello pool has been filled up.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:40 | Link to Comment TomJoad
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"Are you a Sock Puppet?"

"No, I am a Meat Popsicle."

 

 

Jump! You Bankster Fuckers! 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
Fri, 03/18/2011 - 16:06 | Link to Comment mophead
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I said it would reach California first. And what did I get? Flagged as junk.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:48 | Link to Comment rcmullins
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You know the old quote. "Sure the government wants to help, just ask any American Indian."

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Fenlander
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Frankly, I'm be more surprised that it has not gone on before as a matter of routine.  I'm puzzled as to why they need such a sophisticated software programme though.  Just get 50 contractors to do it.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Backspin
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Right.  It said that one person could control up to 10 online identities.  Why do you need software for that.  Heck, I control 10 online identies just right here on ZH.  Just kidding, of course - I really don't - but the point is that I could, and it wouldn't be that hard.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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One boiler room filled with the marginally employed is enough.  Companies employ them to patrol stock boards.  Yeah, it's going on.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Next the Supreme court will grant the sock puppets habeus corpus, property rights, and allow them to contribute to politcal campaigns.

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:09 | Link to Comment Backspin
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And they will receive health care and other entitlements.

And bailouts.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Matte_Black
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I demand collective bargaining rights for the sock puppets!!!!!!!!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:15 | Link to Comment naughtius maximus
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For public employee sock puppets, never comrade!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:10 | Link to Comment Salvatore CFA
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Hurrumph. Now, no one will friend me.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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This issue, GOM and peak oil brings out all the sock puppets. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:35 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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oxymoron?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:46 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Antithetical bandini.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment herewego...
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+1

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/18/fukushima_friday/

Occasional brief readings of slightly heightened radiation – occasionally reported in scaremongering fashion as "10x normal" – have been detected as far afield as the outskirts of Tokyo, but these are insignificant in a health context. Even if they persisted unbroken for a year, local dosages at such a level would be no more than powerplant workers are allowed in normal times: and nuclear powerplant workers' cancer rate is actually lower than in the general population. Measurable blips in background radiation may be detectable around the world in coming weeks, and will no doubt be heavily reported on, but they will be more insignificant still....

The renowned US nuclear engineer Ted Rockwell, who quite literally wrote the book on reactor safety, has harsh words for this position. He writes:

[Consider] the Three Mile Island (TMI) incident, where 10 to 20 tons of the nuclear reactor melted down, slumped to the bottom of the reactor vessel, and initiated the dreaded China Syndrome, where the reactor core melts and burns its way into the earth ... In the real world, the molten mass froze when it hit the colder reactor vessel, and stopped its downward journey at five-eights of an inch through the five-inch thick vessel wall.

And there was no harm to people or the environment. None.

Yet in Japan, you have radiation zealots threatening to order people out of their homes, to wander, homeless and panic-stricken, through the battered countryside, to do what? All to avoid a radiation dose lower than what they would get from a ski trip.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Marc45
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You can be totally against nuclear power plants and still remain rationally attached to the facts.  The facts, just ask any scientist, are that the radiation detected halfway across the globe from Fukushima is much much less than many common sources of radiation.  If you want to really lower your nuclear radiation expose then stay out of the sun, don't fly commercial airlines and postpone that CT scan.

Then again, who wants to deprive the masses of a new fun source of hysteria.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Augustus
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What would be more helpful in putting this increase in radiation into context would be to remind people of the several hundred nuclear BOMBS intentionally detonated in Nevada.  That is quite a few thousand miles closer than Japan and many of those were full release of all particles generated.

Now consider, is there a vast uninhabitable waste land between Nevada and the Atlantic coast.  Was that full exposure harmful enough to damage people hundreds of miles away?  Or is it the now known and recognized cause for the full blown nut cases writing all of the scaremongering material. 

Let Geo Wash answer for himself.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:16 | Link to Comment FilthyLucre
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Is the inventory of Cs137, Sr90, I131 and other such nucleotides comparable between the fallout of bombs and that found in spent fuel rods?

Does Xenon 137 have a half life of 3.9 minutes, thus rendering it safe in next to no time?

Or does it decay to Caesium 137 a gamma emitter with a half life of ~30 years that is easily metabolised?

Disinformation is such a slippery subject.

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 15:34 | Link to Comment mkkby
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This is BS.  If you breathe or ingest radioactive particles that have a long half life, you will very likely die and/or get cancer.  That is because it is giving your insides a constant dose over a long period of time (lifetime). 

It's true that being exposed at a distance is trivial, but that is intentionally misleading.  People will die.  No doubt about it.  The question is "how many".

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Pico
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+1

this uncommon source of radiation is  "much much less than many common sources of radiation."

Now let me see: which many of these http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx  does that fall under...

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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The Scandinavian countries have been recommending a daily dose of iodine since the late 1950's because of all the radiation from above ground testing. That radiation continues to circle the globe and effects anyone whom is iodine deficient. 

The US government has chosen to be silent on the topic- big surprise. 

If you are only worried now, you are 50 years behind the curve.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:36 | Link to Comment ShatteredArm
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The side effects from a daily iodine dosage are far worse than you're liable to receive from any radioactive iodine.  If the Scandinavian countries have been recommending a daily dose of iodine (which I doubt), they're idiots.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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There are no side effects from kelp, the preferred method of delivery. You're the idiot. There is a recommended dosage that is safe. Further, if you are deficient in iodine, your body will take on the radioactive iodine. I suppose you would rather trust the same scientists that say flouride is safe as well. Moron.

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:34 | Link to Comment ShatteredArm
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You have to eat 3-5 grams of kelp to absorb 100-150 micrograms of KI.  To get to the recommended 130 mg/day of KI needed to protect your thyroid in a nuclear accident, you would then need to eat roughly 3-5 kg of kelp per day.  Yeah, have fun with that.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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Which is why kelp is so safe. Also depends on the type of kelps you use. An herbalist can help you there.  The amount of radiation in a nuclear accident is not back pattern radiation. Nice try at a cherry pick a number there. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Dr_Dazed
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Sorry double post.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Dr_Dazed
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I wouldn't go throwing the word moron around so easily if I were you.  Your use of the word "dose" strongly suggests a therapeutic supplement to normal intake.  It's really more accurate to have said something along the lines of "recommended daily amount" as in the FDA suggestions for various vitamins and minerals - idiot.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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Anyone that pays attention to or gives credence to the FDA is an idiot- idiot.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 15:46 | Link to Comment destiny
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Obama could kill fossil fuels overnight with a nuclear dash for thorium

6:55PM BST 29 Aug 2010

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We could then stop arguing about wind mills, deepwater drilling, IPCC hockey sticks, or strategic reliance on the Kremlin. History will move on fast.

Muddling on with the status quo is not a grown-up policy. The International Energy Agency says the world must invest $26 trillion (£16.7 trillion) over the next 20 years to avert an energy shock. The scramble for scarce fuel is already leading to friction between China, India, and the West.

There is no certain bet in nuclear physics but work by Nobel laureate Carlo Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) on the use of thorium as a cheap, clean and safe alternative to uranium in reactors may be the magic bullet we have all been hoping for, though we have barely begun to crack the potential of solar power.

Dr Rubbia says a tonne of the silvery metal – named after the Norse god of thunder, who also gave us Thor’s day or Thursday - produces as much energy as 200 tonnes of uranium, or 3,500,000 tonnes of coal. A mere fistful would light London for a week.

Thorium burns the plutonium residue left by uranium reactors, acting as an eco-cleaner. "It’s the Big One," said Kirk Sorensen, a former NASA rocket engineer and now chief nuclear technologist at Teledyne Brown Engineering.

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"Once you start looking more closely, it blows your mind away. You can run civilisation on thorium for hundreds of thousands of years, and it’s essentially free. You don’t have to deal with uranium cartels," he said.

Thorium is so common that miners treat it as a nuisance, a radioactive by-product if they try to dig up rare earth metals. The US and Australia are full of the stuff. So are the granite rocks of Cornwall. You do not need much: all is potentially usable as fuel, compared to just 0.7pc for uranium.

After the Manhattan Project, US physicists in the late 1940s were tempted by thorium for use in civil reactors. It has a higher neutron yield per neutron absorbed. It does not require isotope separation, a big cost saving. But by then America needed the plutonium residue from uranium to build bombs.

"They were really going after the weapons," said Professor Egil Lillestol, a world authority on the thorium fuel-cycle at CERN. "It is almost impossible make nuclear weapons out of thorium because it is too difficult to handle. It wouldn’t be worth trying." It emits too many high gamma rays.

You might have thought that thorium reactors were the answer to every dream but when CERN went to the European Commission for development funds in 1999-2000, they were rebuffed.

Brussels turned to its technical experts, who happened to be French because the French dominate the EU’s nuclear industry. "They didn’t want competition because they had made a huge investment in the old technology," he said.

Another decade was lost. It was a sad triumph of vested interests over scientific progress. "We have very little time to waste because the world is running out of fossil fuels. Renewables can’t replace them. Nuclear fusion is not going work for a century, if ever," he said.

The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for an accelerator-driven sub-critical reactor, and is working on his design for a thorium version at its UK operation.

Victoria Ashley, the project manager, said it could lead to a network of pint-sized 600MW reactors that are lodged underground, can supply small grids, and do not require a safety citadel. It will take £2bn to build the first one, and Aker needs £100mn for the next test phase.

The UK has shown little appetite for what it regards as a "huge paradigm shift to a new technology". Too much work and sunk cost has already gone into the next generation of reactors, which have another 60 years of life.

So Aker is looking for tie-ups with countries such as the US, Russia, or China. The Indians have their own projects - none yet built - dating from days when they switched to thorium because their weapons programme prompted a uranium ban.

America should have fewer inhibitions than Europe in creating a leapfrog technology. The US allowed its nuclear industry to stagnate after Three Mile Island in 1979.

Anti-nuclear neorosis is at last ebbing. The White House has approved $8bn in loan guarantees for new reactors, yet America has been strangely passive. Where is the superb confidence that put a man on the moon?

A few US pioneers are exploring a truly radical shift to a liquid fuel based on molten-fluoride salts, an idea once pursued by US physicist Alvin Weinberg at Oak Ridge National Lab in Tennessee in the 1960s. The original documents were retrieved by Mr Sorensen.

Moving away from solid fuel may overcome some of thorium’s "idiosyncracies". "You have to use the right machine. You don’t use diesel in a petrol car: you build a diesel engine," said Mr Sorensen.

Thorium-fluoride reactors can operate at atmospheric temperature. "The plants would be much smaller and less expensive. You wouldn’t need those huge containment domes because there’s no pressurized water in the reactor. It’s close-fitting," he said.

Nuclear power could become routine and unthreatening. But first there is the barrier of establishment prejudice.

When Hungarian scientists led by Leo Szilard tried to alert Washington in late 1939 that the Nazis were working on an atomic bomb, they were brushed off with disbelief. Albert Einstein interceded through the Belgian queen mother, eventually getting a personal envoy into the Oval Office.

Roosevelt initially fobbed him off. He listened more closely at a second meeting over breakfast the next day, then made up his mind within minutes. "This needs action," he told his military aide. It was the birth of the Manhattan Project. As a result, the US had an atomic weapon early enough to deter Stalin from going too far in Europe.

The global energy crunch needs equal "action". If it works, Manhattan II could restore American optimism and strategic leadership at a stroke: if not, it is a boost for US science and surely a more fruitful way to pull the US out of perma-slump than scattershot stimulus.

Even better, team up with China and do it together, for all our sakes

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/7970619/Obama-could-kill-fossil-fuels-overnight-with-a-nuclear-dash-for-thorium.html

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:03 | Link to Comment destiny
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Obama could kill fossil fuels overnight with a nuclear dash for thorium

6:55PM BST 29 Aug 2010

Comments

We could then stop arguing about wind mills, deepwater drilling, IPCC hockey sticks, or strategic reliance on the Kremlin. History will move on fast.

Muddling on with the status quo is not a grown-up policy. The International Energy Agency says the world must invest $26 trillion (£16.7 trillion) over the next 20 years to avert an energy shock. The scramble for scarce fuel is already leading to friction between China, India, and the West.

There is no certain bet in nuclear physics but work by Nobel laureate Carlo Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) on the use of thorium as a cheap, clean and safe alternative to uranium in reactors may be the magic bullet we have all been hoping for, though we have barely begun to crack the potential of solar power.

Dr Rubbia says a tonne of the silvery metal – named after the Norse god of thunder, who also gave us Thor’s day or Thursday - produces as much energy as 200 tonnes of uranium, or 3,500,000 tonnes of coal. A mere fistful would light London for a week.

Thorium burns the plutonium residue left by uranium reactors, acting as an eco-cleaner. "It’s the Big One," said Kirk Sorensen, a former NASA rocket engineer and now chief nuclear technologist at Teledyne Brown Engineering.

Related Articles

"Once you start looking more closely, it blows your mind away. You can run civilisation on thorium for hundreds of thousands of years, and it’s essentially free. You don’t have to deal with uranium cartels," he said.

Thorium is so common that miners treat it as a nuisance, a radioactive by-product if they try to dig up rare earth metals. The US and Australia are full of the stuff. So are the granite rocks of Cornwall. You do not need much: all is potentially usable as fuel, compared to just 0.7pc for uranium.

After the Manhattan Project, US physicists in the late 1940s were tempted by thorium for use in civil reactors. It has a higher neutron yield per neutron absorbed. It does not require isotope separation, a big cost saving. But by then America needed the plutonium residue from uranium to build bombs.

"They were really going after the weapons," said Professor Egil Lillestol, a world authority on the thorium fuel-cycle at CERN. "It is almost impossible make nuclear weapons out of thorium because it is too difficult to handle. It wouldn’t be worth trying." It emits too many high gamma rays.

You might have thought that thorium reactors were the answer to every dream but when CERN went to the European Commission for development funds in 1999-2000, they were rebuffed.

Brussels turned to its technical experts, who happened to be French because the French dominate the EU’s nuclear industry. "They didn’t want competition because they had made a huge investment in the old technology," he said.

Another decade was lost. It was a sad triumph of vested interests over scientific progress. "We have very little time to waste because the world is running out of fossil fuels. Renewables can’t replace them. Nuclear fusion is not going work for a century, if ever," he said.

The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for an accelerator-driven sub-critical reactor, and is working on his design for a thorium version at its UK operation.

Victoria Ashley, the project manager, said it could lead to a network of pint-sized 600MW reactors that are lodged underground, can supply small grids, and do not require a safety citadel. It will take £2bn to build the first one, and Aker needs £100mn for the next test phase.

The UK has shown little appetite for what it regards as a "huge paradigm shift to a new technology". Too much work and sunk cost has already gone into the next generation of reactors, which have another 60 years of life.

So Aker is looking for tie-ups with countries such as the US, Russia, or China. The Indians have their own projects - none yet built - dating from days when they switched to thorium because their weapons programme prompted a uranium ban.

America should have fewer inhibitions than Europe in creating a leapfrog technology. The US allowed its nuclear industry to stagnate after Three Mile Island in 1979.

Anti-nuclear neorosis is at last ebbing. The White House has approved $8bn in loan guarantees for new reactors, yet America has been strangely passive. Where is the superb confidence that put a man on the moon?

A few US pioneers are exploring a truly radical shift to a liquid fuel based on molten-fluoride salts, an idea once pursued by US physicist Alvin Weinberg at Oak Ridge National Lab in Tennessee in the 1960s. The original documents were retrieved by Mr Sorensen.

Moving away from solid fuel may overcome some of thorium’s "idiosyncracies". "You have to use the right machine. You don’t use diesel in a petrol car: you build a diesel engine," said Mr Sorensen.

Thorium-fluoride reactors can operate at atmospheric temperature. "The plants would be much smaller and less expensive. You wouldn’t need those huge containment domes because there’s no pressurized water in the reactor. It’s close-fitting," he said.

Nuclear power could become routine and unthreatening. But first there is the barrier of establishment prejudice.

When Hungarian scientists led by Leo Szilard tried to alert Washington in late 1939 that the Nazis were working on an atomic bomb, they were brushed off with disbelief. Albert Einstein interceded through the Belgian queen mother, eventually getting a personal envoy into the Oval Office.

Roosevelt initially fobbed him off. He listened more closely at a second meeting over breakfast the next day, then made up his mind within minutes. "This needs action," he told his military aide. It was the birth of the Manhattan Project. As a result, the US had an atomic weapon early enough to deter Stalin from going too far in Europe.

The global energy crunch needs equal "action". If it works, Manhattan II could restore American optimism and strategic leadership at a stroke: if not, it is a boost for US science and surely a more fruitful way to pull the US out of perma-slump than scattershot stimulus.

Even better, team up with China and do it together, for all our sakes

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/7970619/Obama-could-kill-fossil-fuels-overnight-with-a-nuclear-dash-for-thorium.html

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:23 | Link to Comment Scottj88
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Anyone buying the west coast earthquake in the next week?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:43 | Link to Comment malikai
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I'm short continguous west coast earthquake and long Alaskan west coast quake.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:57 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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The Cascadia Subduction zone seems to be the best candidate for a 'super-quake' and massive tsunami. Too bad about all that expensive real estate in British Columbia and coastal communities along the Washington/Oregon coast. That might just cause some more destructive volcanic activity in the Cascades as well. Hey all you Hanford Nuclear Reservation peeps! Are you listening?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_subduction_zone

 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Pico
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+1

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:50 | Link to Comment Judge Judy Scheinlok
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HAARP uses large amounts of energy when it is in high gear.

It produces much of it's own using natgas generators, plus sucks juice from the local grid.

Can anyone get their hands on the utility bills for this monster?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:05 | Link to Comment jerry_theking_lawler
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i'm sure someone could get a FOIA for the testing agencies utility bills (nat gas and electricity). then you could pinpoint what they were doing at the times in question. does anyone know what agency is responsible and how to fill out a FOIA?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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Save the time and 'energy' on an FOIA ... here's how 'the monster' is powered - diesel-fuel feeds the beast!!!

http://www.lloydritchey.com/haarp.htm

 

From the official HAARP website: http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/factSheet.html

Electric prime power is provided from an on-site power plant housing five, 2500 kW generators, each driven by a 3600 hp diesel engine. Four generators are required for operation of the IRI and the fifth is held as a spare. 

 

From Infowars (ignominious in stature) sez: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=174614.10;wap2

Six 2.5 MW diesel generators were acquired under the previous, OTH-B program that was to have used the current HAARP site in the 1980s. When that program was cancelled, the generators were transferred to HAARP and are being held in storage. 

 

For comparison, a single 2.5 MW generator will power 30 - 75 homes depending on conditions ...

 

So, following up, find the dealer that made the last delivery to the H. site and inquire on the amount, the # of gallons delivered ...

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:08 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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You guys have fun with that.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 14:11 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Could we hang bags of microwave popcorn on the perimeter fence to see if they pop when they fire it off? It would have the added benefit of feeding the Caribou...geez, I'm hungry now. I'm off to get some Caribou jerky and popcorn...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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Could we hang bags of microwave popcorn 

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You'll need *HF Popcorn; not yet invented (RF Engineer joke)

Besides, all you get along the fence are sidelobes, not the main beam  ... that main beam points straight up, with ability to vary +-30 degrees from that 'boresight' ...  sidelobes can be down over 40 dB (power factor of over x 10,000) ... from main beam given the size of the array and all ...

 

 

*HF Frequencies for H. = 2.8 to 18 MHz

uWaves (uWave oven) = 2.43 GHz or so

1 Ghz = 1000 MHz

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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HAARP uses large amounts of energy when it is in high gear.

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Really? Have you seen the power generation station at their site there in Alaska?

SIX diesel generators ... that's all ... I kid you not!

NOT what I would call 'massive' BTW.

 

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:19 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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I'm certainly in the camp of "if it's gonna happen any time soon, then the next week is as probable as any other time."

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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As a prediction?  No.  However, the rise in siesmic activity around the Ring of Fire is obvious.  I would certainly not be surprised if the West Coast had a substantial earthquake at any time.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:37 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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dup.  Damn slow server - I even refreshed... 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:23 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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I wonder how golf in Rio is this time of year?

-Obama (moments after being informed that this would indeed happen)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:31 | Link to Comment Zina
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Obama just canceled his public speech on a open area in Rio because he was afraid of some paper balls!

Now his speech will be at closed doors.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:36 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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why fear what you already have?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:00 | Link to Comment SME MOFO
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+ dos cojones de papel

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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'paper balls' ... funny ...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Mesquite
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hahahahahah

too funny..

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Drachma
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Stop worrying. All we have to do is listen to the government according to Obama:

"“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health experts do not recommend people in the U.S. take precautionary measures beyond staying informed.”

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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That is not true and unfair. The radiation is reaching Rio. This is what Obama was afraid of:

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/348915/the-statue-of-god-in-rio-de-janeiro

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:57 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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i kid you not, i think i got obamas fortune in last nites chinese food takeout

 

Learn Chinese-basketball

lan      qiu      (both had symbol i could not duplicate and accent over 'a' in first and 'u' in second)

and the fortune:

always,always practice humility

 

 

i'm playin the lucky numbers so i cant share that part

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Spitzer
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Anti nuclear bullshit

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:36 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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dejavu?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Salvatore CFA
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Jack Lemmon will never again be down for breakfast; Michael Douglas and Jane Fonda are far too over the hill for a remake. Fear not -- Hollywood is replete with has-beens and the unemployed: Mickey Rourke ( he looks rather edematous already ), Charlie Sheen and Lindsay could easily step into these respective roles. 

"China Syndrome II: Winning"

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:46 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Still antithetical bandini.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:24 | Link to Comment DutchTreat
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Surf's up. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:50 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Serf's down.
And out.
ORI

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:26 | Link to Comment wandstrasse
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in these days diplomats have to be nuclear experts and vice versa.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:25 | Link to Comment gwar5
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It's just enough radiation to tan faster and offset the tanning tax.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:48 | Link to Comment snowball777
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+1 Boehner

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:27 | Link to Comment fredquimby
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Is there anywhere we can monitor various official radiation readings?

This is what I have found so far...

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Here is another:

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

 

I find it odd of course that you can't get the EPA information that they're collecting on RADNET.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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Apologies offered. Didn't see that you had already posted this link.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:40 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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......diplomatic sources said on Friday.

Notice that out of all the US government agencies that might disclose this information.....say the Nuclear Regulatory Agency or Homeland Security or any agency having to do with emergency preparations, that it is the "diplomatic source" that is leaking it. So this type of info is obviously being scrubbed for it's political ramifications before being released.

It seems the Japanese have learned Orwellian spin from the true world masters, we Americans. God bless Orwell's Newspeak America.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:52 | Link to Comment gordengeko
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I would bet money these pricks are getting off with the fear mongering propaganda mind control bullshit with the radiation.  Unless the air is over 2 mr/hr for a sustained period, like more than a few days, you probably won't grow a third nipple just yet.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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This is an excellent point. Regardless of the radiation reading or it's interpretation, we must always remember that the government fear meme is ALWAYS used to control the mind. Thus any information received from any source, official or not, must be mentally scrubbed for hidden motives before swallowing whole or in part.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Marc45
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Blindly believing in conspiracy theories is just as bad as blindly believing in everything the government says.  Our government isn't really that clever, though they try.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I agree. I did not rule out conspiracy theories in the least and I actually included them. Thus the emphasis on "any" information whether it is "official or not". This of course also includes "official" conspiracy theories, such as the "official" 9/11 government blessed "conspiracy theory" regarding Bin Laden and 19 hijackers conspiring together. It works both ways.

Of course the government's 9/11 theory is an outrageous conspiracy theory......which is another level entirely.

Thus any information received from any source, official or not, must be mentally scrubbed for hidden motives before swallowing whole or in part.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 14:13 | Link to Comment gordengeko
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That's exactly correct!  The point is that the enemy of the state is deep, sound, rational critical thinking.  Everything in this society is designed to keep people from doing that, which is the exact cause of why we are in this fucked up position.  In order for the system to continue to flourish and support the needs/excesses of a chosen few, the labor force must keep the status quo, shut their mind and go to work to make them money then consume the garbage they sell with the breadcrumbs they give you. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Not to mention that it's good for MSM ratings.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:54 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Orwell just called to remind everyone that 1984 was intended as fiction.

He concluded his brief scolding with an emphatic:

 

"WTF!"

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:36 | Link to Comment Cthonic
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Meanwhile in the year of our Ford 103, Huxley awoke and played Obstacle Golf with Obama before overdosing on Soma.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:48 | Link to Comment majia
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I'm monitoring--live in AZ with kids. All the monitors available I know of are showing lower than usual radiation. It must be up in the jet stream, not at ground level.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-radiation-monitoring-from-west-la

strange...the map linked below normally shows LA but is not now...

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/GGFTPMap.jpg

Washington's blog has "how to protect against radiation"

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment seek
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AZ here too, I'm running a couple different logging counters, everything has been normal for the past week. ~0.15 uSv/hr.

This thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1161140&page=6 over at the ar15 forums has several people reporting in with western US readings. I think a couple nuclear power plant folks are starting to post as well, or at least will say something if they see it.

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:40 | Link to Comment ShatteredArm
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Also in AZ.  Not watching radiation monitors at all, because there's absolutely no reason to worry about radiation here.  I'm more worried about a plane losing its engines and crashing into my building than I am about radiation from Japan.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Tyler - maybe ZH can get access to the EPA near realtime RADNET data?

Near Realtime radnet data source information here:
http://www.epa.gov/narel/radnet/pdf/How_to_Access_RadNet_Data.pdf

 

CA is in EPA Radnet Region 9 -

http://www.epa.gov/narel/radnet/region9.html

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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ahhhhhh

I dunno about the epa

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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All those links are dead on the EPA site ... so what is the EPA's purpose in listing them?

 

Such as: "Air Particulates, Near Real-Time Gamma"

 

Near real-time ... why can't we see them then?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:03 | Link to Comment Ruffcut
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The Epa, just like gulf seafood, state that smell tests appear normal.

All Good.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:26 | Link to Comment tmosley
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Screw this "low level" crap.  Just give us the damn numbers.

God damn media wants it both ways.  They want to to be fearful, but they don't want you to take action, so they scare the shit out of everyone, then call anyone who tries to do anything about it crazy.

Public Manipulation 101.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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If they gave actionable information, people might take action... and turn the TV off.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:52 | Link to Comment CitizenPete
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The only way the over-worked, over-taxed, jello-brained masses will turn off the drool box, is it you put one of those logger boots up their ass.

 

Frank explains clearly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUB4Wv5ooI

 

I am the slime.

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Oligarchs Gone Wild
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100% with you on this, it's BS that we get summary data, give me live readings please and let the *experts* explain the behavoir on the meters.

Hey, if it's not too much to ask after an F'ing week, how about a live stream of the friggen nuke plant? We'll even take the hazy 30KM view.  

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:28 | Link to Comment xPat
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Tyler, get a clue.

The GULF stream is an ocean current that moves from the GOM around Florida to the U.S. East Coast.

You clearly mean to say JET stream, not GULF stream.

xPat

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Fenlander
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Perhaps Tyler meant a Gulfstream jet? J/K.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:36 | Link to Comment Dr_Dazed
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Yeah - I figured that it came over in en executive jet on the shoes of an escaping bankster.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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......probably landed in Monterey, CA, airport enroute to play Pebble Beach...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment Oligarchs Gone Wild
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WB7 should tee up an illustration of all the banksters leaving tokyo in radioactive G6's heading to the US.

<You know all the Banksters were listening to this too.>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvgJEznqtms

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:32 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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what's it like to have never said anything in error?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:36 | Link to Comment chinaguy
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Sure, a G650...but they'd have to fly conservatively to reach the west coast from Fukushima ;-)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Freebird
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Where would we be without you xpat?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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The North Pacific Gyre is the ocean current - we'll be getting the bodies of the poor souls should they make it that far - and debris from what the tsunami swept out to sea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pacific_Gyre

You're probably right - I'd guess Tyler was thinking jet stream.

I hear Jamie Dimon is going to fly to Tokyo but he probably has his own 747 bought with taxpayer money not a gulf stream.  I'd also bet it is a rumor he started so people think he did it even if he never does - kind of like paying back TARP money or WaMu shareholders.

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:20 | Link to Comment Sabibaby
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A Gulfstream is also a Jet manufacturing company for those who don't get the joke

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:28 | Link to Comment AldoHux_IV
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Living in CA, when I grow a third ball-- I'll start to question whether or not these assholes are really telling the truth.  Hopefully we all get some cool super power out of this.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:40 | Link to Comment wandstrasse
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there is surely some expert advice to come, like: when you are in SanDiego and you position your ass towards NNW between 11.30am and 1.20pm, then your penis grows 1,5%. Beware of positionig SO, because then it will shrink.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:22 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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...or you could become a pawnbroker....

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:26 | Link to Comment playitcool
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I'm hoping for power of flight, or, hadouken.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:28 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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The lyrics describe the title establishment as a luxury resort where "you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave." On the surface, it tells the tale of a weary traveler who becomes trapped in a nightmarish luxury hotel that at first appears inviting and tempting, an allegory of hedonism and and self-destruction

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:33 | Link to Comment InconvenientCou...
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"On the surface, it tells the tale of a weary traveler who becomes trapped in a nightmarish luxury hotel that at first appears inviting and tempting, an allegory of hedonism and and self-destruction"

Friday....winning!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:28 | Link to Comment InconvenientCou...
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In support of those suffering in Japan, I took a deep breath.

Keep an eye on the wind in Japan. One sustained shift and things will change dramatically.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Sabibaby
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Especially as Hurricane Season approaches!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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....absolutely...the distance to our West Coast allows for a great deal of dispersion (think of a shotgun blast) whereas, Tokyo is close at hand...a wind shift could create a an appalling disaster...and forget the jetstream...think of surface wind conditions.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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03-18 10:12: Diplomats report minuscule Radioactive fallout has reached southern California, according to associated press
See how diplomatic that was? This is why diplomats are paid the big bucks. Where's Nero, by the way? Is he packing?
Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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Gulfstream?   Guess the radiation buried into the earth and popped up near the Deepwater Horizon.  Maybe they meant jetstream?  Or perhaps they meant it boarded a Gulfstream 550 private jet owned by a Tepco executive escaping Japan.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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Not a pilot?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:33 | Link to Comment Financial_Guard...
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This is great news!

It looks like I can cancel my membership to LA Tan. I just need to stand outside for a few minutes and get all the uranium rays I need. If needed, I can take a trip to the land of the rising sun and get a booster. Flights should be cheap...

Going short on tanning bed manufacturers.

Going long on oncology centers.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Slartebartfast
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The only problem is that ionizing radiation tans you from the inside out, just like a microwave oven.  Long before you turn golden brown your kidney and liver would be blackened stumps.  Sweet!!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:06 | Link to Comment snowball777
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That should save us a ton on Medicare melanoma treatments.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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...might also solve the Social Security funding issue by removing the oldest and weakest first....a nuclear culling of the flock.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Ben Fleeced
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+300 Rads.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:54 | Link to Comment youngman
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Its not just the air...the water they are dumping on it could be pretty powerful...LOL....Japan has nice pretty fish..now they will glow...you will not need lights in the susi bar anymore..

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:33 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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No, he meant Gulfstream, because a lot of it came in with the G5s.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:35 | Link to Comment MonsterZero
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So... whose going to file the class action?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:03 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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California for now...  but, the rest of us will sue california when that radioactive milk and other products get here.  Someone needs to do some thinking about stopping production as a health precaution...  the problem with attorneys being a remedial source is that we can only bankrupt corporations that screw up and punish them after the fact...  (in general).  The government has a core competency on prohibition...  of course, that would actually mean doing work...  like studying the effects of our particular radiation, the potency/levels, its effects on various strata of humans (e.g. elderly, newborns, pregnant)...  and identifying those producers most at risk...  and understanding their distribution chain...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Well then lets enact tort reform...so we can't even bankrupt them after the fact.

/sarc

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment somethingelse
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Great (glowing) cheese comes from Happy (glowing) cows and Happy (glowing) cows come from California

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 14:08 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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Good post macho. Of course, take the food industry (or any other) and the corporations have so overwhelmingly infiltrated the presence and financing of our politicians and now universities, they control the "studies."

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 16:25 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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True, but a jury isn't going to read any of that.  All it takes is a well spoken, likeable expert that isn't a moonbat and has a decent track record.  The world's foremost expert on anything probably doesn't need to socialize past mom's basement.  Just hire someone more congenial and ensure you ask the right questions to develop report with the jury...  aside from the simple fact that venue is going to be 9/10 the battle ;).  In the end, both sides have to pay for the testimony of experts...

Unfortunately, you're right on the governmental part...  there is plausible deniability for literally everything they do...  especially with dumbasses like krugman spewing skittles from every hole.

As a practical matter, the REAL private sector (not welfare queens) does not have the wherewithal to buy the studies...  the funds can only come from a single source...  that taints the whole process on down...  hence the rise of the blogosphere and independent works...  (academics keep the gloves on).

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:35 | Link to Comment morph
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Well considering half the worlds population is closer to Japan than California, what is it America is worrying about again?

Then again, America is not exactly know for its awareness of the rest of the world.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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Then again, America is not exactly know for its awareness of the rest of the world.

 

Right on Morph....  You mean there are other Nations,  cultures,  and tongues on Earth?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:09 | Link to Comment TheEternalTriangle
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Well, despite the scare being mostly bullshit there is some reason why Russia/Malaysia et al would be less worried right now. Prevailing winds are driving all that stuff towards the US.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Is this the good kind of radiation?  Is Ann Coulter out gamma-bathing nude?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:42 | Link to Comment velobabe
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ann coulter can't talk, she just got ass fucked and H A R D †

she can't sit down.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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LOL

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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First time I read that a few years back I had tears streaming down my face, laughing -- maybe the first few times.  It really is no fun to have a really good writer on your, ehm, case.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 14:09 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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actually the vision of Ann Coulter bathing nude in radiation is more horrifying than the rays themselves

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:37 | Link to Comment LRC Fan
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Should be good for about a 100 pt pop in the Dow.  See, it was baked into the markets that radiation would reach Ohio, so if it stops at California, or even Nevada, that's better than expectations on the street!  Isn't that what they mean by "whisper number?"

 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:41 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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"I realized from a very early stage that the market is a whole rigged job. There's no chance that investors have in this market." -- Bernard Lawrence Madoff

The Pigmen will always bend the rules and screw the little guy.

Learn it, love it, trade it.

DOW +2% today. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:45 | Link to Comment LRC Fan
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Honestly is there anything that isn't baked into the markets?  Oh yeah, good news.  Then it's off to the races.  But even no news is seen as good news.  Bad news is simply dismissed as priced in already. 

Funny how the markets can run up 100% from the lows yet price in all sorts of disasters. 

Actually all that's priced in at this point is QE3, 4, 5, 6, etc. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:37 | Link to Comment luk427
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Why doesn't he just make one of his crooked flunkies NUCLEAR CZAR"

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:46 | Link to Comment Mesquite
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Didn't he just take in a GE man into his inner circle..?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:38 | Link to Comment sudzee
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Did the Gulfstream pick up the radiation in Tokyo or while over the Pacific? If Tokyo is suppossedly safe then?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Hondo
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Of course BHO is on his way to Rio...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:41 | Link to Comment sudzee
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Short dirty bomb detector manufacturers. TSA is going to be pissed.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Slartebartfast
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The real issue is that NO ONE KNOWS what is in this cloud.  Ionizing radiation is only one component.  There are potentially particles of plutonium so toxic that a single dust mote could kill you within days.  There are alpha and beta emitters that a normal geiger counter cannot even detect.  Nobody knows what kind of crap is spewing from Japan's nuclear volcano.  Luckily we're 6,000 miles away.  I wouldn't give much for the long term survival chances of the 12 million plus residents of Tokyo.

Nobody really gets just how horrific this is going to get.  The US Military is evacuating all of their people from all of Japan for a reason.

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