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Radioactive Cesium Content In Japan Sea Water 25 Times Limit, Radioactive Iodine At 127 TImes Maximum Allowed

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According to Kyodo, the Fukushima sea fallout is getting material enough to where the sea soon won't need a blacklight to glow in the dark:

  • Kyodo says radioactive caesium found in sea water 24.8 times limit
  • Kyodo says radioactive Iodine found in sea water 126.7 times limit

The only logical solution is for the Japanese ministry of deadly disinformation to raise the radioactive Cesium sea water limit by 25 times, and that of Iodine by 127 times. And all shall be well.


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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 12:58 | 1082158 astartes09
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I plan so devious its bound to work!  MUHAHAHAHA

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 12:58 | 1082162 astartes09
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Mine is an evil laugh.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1082266 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Anne Coultier doesn't mind, and now she gets the chance to visit and report from Japan.  Alex Jones has offered her airfare to the Island State.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:27 | 1082292 Cursive
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Would love to see her swimming next to Fukushima.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:35 | 1082320 ColonelCooper
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Ann Coulter is personally invited to my house where she can crawl around in my garden on all fours using her cock to plow a furrow in which to plant my soon to irradiated green beans.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:43 | 1082353 ZippyBananaPants
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Thanks Cooper, I just pissed my pants

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:46 | 1082370 Buckaroo Banzai
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Thanks for that image. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:02 | 1082440 MsCreant
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FTW, literally.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:06 | 1082453 yabyum
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Strong work Coop!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:50 | 1082558 Bastiat
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She'll be right over after her Fukushima mineral water high-colonic.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:49 | 1082382 TruthInSunshine
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Ann Couter would be particularly susceptible to radiation, given her ginormous adam's apple.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:52 | 1082400 ColonelCooper
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She's like ET in a wig. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:54 | 1083376 crazyjsmith
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Stop, you're killing me Colonel! 

ET, in a wig, with a big ole' irradiated cock, plowing glowing fields of grain and veggie's!!  Epic

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:05 | 1083654 oygevalt
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I haven't stopped laughing in way too long... this is some of the funniest shit I've ever read on this site.  Go Colonel.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1082273 SheepDog-One
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Go Go Godzilla!!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:24 | 1082285 Tulli
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Are those dots at 128º the used ones? If so, this is really bad news...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:37 | 1082339 PY-129-20
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I don't know, unfortunately. The German newspaper "Die Welt" didn't comment on this picture - just "thermal image fukushima blabla - reactor no. 3".


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:17 | 1082487 CD
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Not that it has any useful information beyond 'Under Survey', here is the 'official' page of background radiation readings from throughout Japan:

Map version posted on TargetMap (h/t Jesse @ Cafe Americaine)

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:35 | 1082525 majia
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check this out as well

looks like mar 20 and 21 were bad days



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:44 | 1082541 UGrev
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God damnit.. bury the mother fucker already!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 00:28 | 1084838 SheHunter
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speaking of contaminated seas.  please take a look at this:

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:59 | 1082432 Gully Foyle
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So what's the story with the West coast? Radioactive materials should have started hitting by now. We know neither the strength nor the area affected.

Anyone with answers?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:46 | 1082547 ColonelCooper
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Some elevated numbers moved across the West coast a couple of days ago, but this was before the epa site was readily available to the general public, so one was taking the word of people who claimed to have access.

The claims seem to prove out however, as the EPA has since made the site available to the general public without having to implant a microchip in your left testicle to gain access; numbers were elevated this morning in the midwest.  This rise in the numbers seemed to coincide with rainfall??? (just guessing, but the rain has moved off, and the numbers have subsided)

The elevated numbers have not stayed that way.  It seems that a cloud (for lack of a better word) passed over.  When I dug my counter out, I never expected to find a damn thing.  I will be monitoring consistently for a while now.

Also see below post

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:01 | 1082169 Cognitive Dissonance
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The pertinent question is where were the samples taken. 100 yards off shore of the plant or 100 miles? Or Tokyo bay? Often it's not the answer you received but the actual question asked that's important.

Then of course there are the questions completely ignored......but that's another matter entirely.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:10 | 1082213 THE DORK OF CORK
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Simple / excellent point cognitive  - however what is disturbing is the fractured nature of the information , it does not inspire confidence. 

My gut tells me a area of 50 miles from the plant will become a maritime / terrestrial wildlife park.

Radioactive Park Bitches.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:21 | 1082260 divide_by_zero
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+1, worked quite nicely at Rocky Flats

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:55 | 1082414 Sabibaby
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And their building new homes right next to it as we speak. The Californian's migrating out to Colorado will never know....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:44 | 1082876 disabledvet
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is this true?  i had a buddy who was a chemistry major back in the 80's who told me...but i digress...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:48 | 1083168 divide_by_zero
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There's the 903 area leakage and 2 plutonium fires in 1957 (40-500gm of 239/240 airborne) and 1969(<1gm of same).



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:05 | 1082445 Gully Foyle
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In 77 or 78 I knew this guy. He had one of the original reports on West Valley NY. One of the sections stated that the waste was burried in fifty gallon drums, packing cases and CARDBOARD BOXES. That the ditches were twelve inches deep but runnoff was 20+.

That was deleted from later reports.

The guy I knew was scared shitless that someone would find out he had actually read, let alone possessed, a copy and TPTN would Silkwood him

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:47 | 1082551 divide_by_zero
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I found out more than I wanted to know from a book I have called(growing up in the late 50s/early 60s upstate NY and NE were getting dosed from above ground tests);

"Secret Fallout: low-level radiation from Hiroshima to Three-Mile Island", by Ernest J. Sternglass

He wrote some papers on the subject as a nuclear physicist for the Naval Ordinance Lab.

Free download of his book here;

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 17:55 | 1083382 crazyjsmith
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Nightime snorkling and scuba!  No lights required. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:11 | 1082215 Financial_Guard...
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I'm sure they swam right up to the exploded nuclear plant's beach and took a sample. Come on in the water's fine! All your gov't friends are doing it...

The water's a bit warmer than usual though. Wow that IS a shark with a frickin' laser beam on its head. Cool!

UHOH... he's coming this way...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:14 | 1082235 Cognitive Dissonance
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The water also seems to be a bit warm here as well. Come on guys, who peed in the (spent fuel rod) pool?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:14 | 1082240 SWRichmond
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My perception is that Kyodo has been alarmist throughout this event.  Your question is very important, as are these:

  1. How many samples were taken, and where?
  2. How many samples had these levels of contamination?
  3. What are the mechanisms for these levels of contamination translating into human risk factors (concentration into seafood, for example)?
  4. When were the samples taken?
  5. What are the "limits" referred to, and how do they compare with levels suspected to cause harm to humans?
  6. Was this I131?  If so, the half life is 8 days, so the contamination will quickly decay away once the source is eliminated.
  7. Cesium 137 is worse, a 30 year half life.
Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:14 | 1082476 SWRichmond
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junk me if you want, but when you call me in the control room and tell me you've found contamination, I can't do a goddamned thing about it until you answer questions 1, 2, and 4 at least, plus this one: what other forms of contamination were present, and in what concentrations?  In other words, this information isn't actionable as is.  It's just scary.  Period.  Which is the point, isn't it?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:15 | 1082687 pcrs
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If you take dilution into account the half life is shorter

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:18 | 1082255 MsCreant
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I have a question too CD. It may be obvious to everyone else, but if not, it needs to be asked. 

"How is the radiation getting into the water?"

  1. It is being contaminated from the air, collecting it rather than dispersing it.
  2. It is runoff from the sea water being used to cool the rods.
  3. It is runoff because the melt down is no longer contained.
  4. It has breached the water table.
  5. Some combination of all of the above.

If they want us to stop speculating and sounding hysterical, they should be updating folks with real information.



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1082282 SheepDog-One
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I have a question too...why is it all the smart people who always say to never believe a word of what any media or govt ever says, work so hard to believe what they say now?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:47 | 1082369 rjabele
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so who should one believe - you or some of the other armchair quarterbacks around here?

gimme a break, most of the previous posteers said they need to know more about the sampling specs.

you guys especially George Washington have been hyperventilating ever since the eerthquake hit - talking up your book?


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:50 | 1082391 ColonelCooper
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So why would we believe a government (Japan) that refuses to release the numbers anywhere near the site, and posts numbers on the low side of atmospheric for everywhere else?  It's the believability factor here.  It's trending negative.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:15 | 1082480 SheepDog-One
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No rjabele actually youre a liar, I've never commented since the earthquake, about the earthquake or anything else, in fact Ive been gone from ZH for over a week so I havent commented at all.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 20:23 | 1083976 rjabele
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I don't care if you've been gone since LTCM - you did made a statement  - and I disagreed with it

lump it.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:57 | 1082420 chumbawamba
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I think it has more to do with people trying to figure out if they should be believed/disbelieved.

When information is scarce, or the information you receive is adulterated, more questions are generated than answers.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:30 | 1082299 kaiserhoff
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As long as they tell us only pretty lies, we are justified in believing the worst.

I think its clear they have lost control of this thing.  If there were a sensible plan B, we would know that by now.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:38 | 1082336 Cognitive Dissonance
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All reasonable questions MsCreant.

I have come to the conclusion that media plays the same role as the left-right tennis match of politics. Never to inform, only to confuse and obfuscate. Sooner or later most people just throw their hands up in the air and tune it out. Mission accomplished.

Those of us left who want actual answers are a small minority and of no importance. Then the "officials" can control the unfolding story as well as the eventual "official" explanation.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:11 | 1083442 crazyjsmith
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@ Cog Dis

That was a Bullseye.  The media has effectively lowered the brain function of their viewers to that of a lap dog. 

They have just enough "cognitive" power to pee on command, eat when food is in front of them and not when they are hungry, and go fetch when ordered.  Anything beyond that, they just look at you puzzled but with great focus followed by a 45 degree tilt of the head.  

Then off to the next command.  Immediately wiping out any previous thought or memory.     

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:56 | 1082418 OpenEyes
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Bingo!!  I just asked, pretty much the same question on another thread about the nuclear crisis... specifically:

I'm just gobsmacked by the blatant coverup, obfuscation and general assholishness of the Japanese gov't and TEPCO.  I mean, here are just a few examples of what's got my 'radar' pinging;

1:  Isn't this the second time that the J'Gov has raised the limit of 'acceptable' radiation levels?

2:  The US took thermal images of the site but the J'Gov has blacked them out, refusing the release those.

3:  The radiation levels near the reactor sites continue to be classified as "under survey" by the J'Gov.. "under survey"???  WTF?  this is the most basic piece of information there is.

4:  TEPCO and the J'Gov have NEVER release the temperature or pressure readings for the reactor sites... just occasional statements that they are 'elevated' or 'may' be increasing.

I am a firm believer that you can learn as much from what's NOT being said as from what is being said..  in this case, what's not being said speaks so much louder.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:11 | 1082654 buzzsaw99
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They don't mind people dying from a lack of info they just don't want them to panic.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:19 | 1082718 ColonelCooper
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Bingo!  And to some extent, I can understand the bind they're in.  What do you do with 120 million people stuck on an island that is glowing green? 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:22 | 1083061 hedgeless_horseman
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What do you do with 120 million people stuck on an island that is glowing green? 

Print Yen.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:47 | 1082524 Goldilocks
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Maybe the radiation in the water indicates the use of exploded nuclear bomb(s) (aka a "natural" tsunami) & the 3-4 reactor "meltdowns" provide cover. ... who would know the difference?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:49 | 1082903 disabledvet
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i'm back-testing this one.  i'll get back to you via "the usual sources" when i know more...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:24 | 1082274 mick_richfield
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I think the sea currents along the east coast of Japan flow north, not south toward Tokyo.

So these readings are probably from near the plant, or north of it.

What I can't find out is how far down the ground water table is.  I don't understand how to entomb without putting a floor underneath the whole are first -- but I assume that would have to be above groundwater ?

I don't think you can entomb without  (1) separating the fuel rods to prevent recriticality, and then (2) defending groundwater by creating a new foundation under the whole area.

But if that gray smoke is uranium and plutonium oxide -- I guess that fire has to be stopped first.

God help them.


Fed delenda est.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:44 | 1082346 Cognitive Dissonance
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What I can't find out is how far down the ground water table is.  I don't understand how to entomb without putting a floor underneath the whole are first -- but I assume that would have to be above groundwater ?

I have no link to this, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the plant is sitting on bedrock and that all Japanese plants by law must sit on bedrock. Something to do with the earthquakes and not wanting to site the plant on soil that might displace or crack during the quake. Again, I have no reference to this, just something I read early in this disaster.

Is it safe to assume that this close to the ocean (meaning on the edge) that the water table is at the same level, meaning sea level?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:09 | 1082461 Jim in MN
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Yes, the water table near any body of water is at the same level as the water surface.  Geomorphology 101 (or 102).

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:59 | 1082425 gordengeko
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Who are the poor saps that have to draw straws to find out who does the entombing?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:11 | 1082466 mick_richfield
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We have all the tech to do something like this:

except where the man is remote, and seeing everything that the "robot" sees in a head-up display.

It wouldn't really be a robot, it would be completely man-controlled.

Alternatively, build something like this, give it removable radiation armor so that a man can work inside that plant safely for ... 30 mins or whatever ... then throw the armor away and get new armor.

There's your BioRobots!  That's how to get in there and separate the rods to prevent recriticality. 

Hey, Raytheon!  Want some good PR?  Want to do your part to save Japan?  We need 50 of these things, and we need them yesterday.


Fed delenda est.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:20 | 1082496 gordengeko
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The removable armor would be sheets of lead.  I'm sure they have some inbred clones they jacked up gene sequence on somewhere on this planet we could use.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:25 | 1083070 hedgeless_horseman
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Where is ASIMO when you need him?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:23 | 1082275 ColonelCooper
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"Then of course there are the questions completely ignored......but that's another matter entirely."

You mean like, "What's the level at the Fukushima plant?"

"So sorry, batteries are dead in monitor.  Please check later."

"Would you like some batteries?"

"So sorry.  Monitor is broken also.  Please check later."

"Would you like to borrow a monitor?"

"So sorry. The number you have dialed is not in service.  Please check later." 

"What about at the Onagawa plant?"

"So Sorry.  Onagawa workers at Fukushima.  Batteries also dead.  Please check later."

Of course the levels are far below any dangerous point if you are more than 18 kilometers away.  Trust Tepco, the Japanese and US Governments. 

My other question would be why the radiation levels across much of the US upper Midwest this morning, (raining) were higher than every number "reported" across Japan, with the exception of Ibaraki.


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1082288 SheepDog-One
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LOL ah so funny.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:41 | 1082351 Cognitive Dissonance
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I second your first. The classic three stooges run around.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:09 | 1082462 majia
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where are you getting these higher radiation readings? I'm following several links and they all indicate normal or slightly above normal levels? Please share additional links!

i'm unable to download from EPA site.

Its raining here in AZ and i wonder what is in the rain--no hiking today!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:16 | 1082486 ColonelCooper
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Have you tried the "for the public" EPA site?

Numbers have subsided substantially, but western SD still at 200 CPM (Down from over 320), western Nebraska at 120 ish..

At my house Upper Midwest, my counter read low 50's this morning, when normal background up until today never exceeded 25.  The closest monitoring station east of me was reading low 80's.

These are obviously not dangerous levels, but the higher counts this morning were 6 times "normal" at least according to radiation network's data.

My only real point in bringing this up was that in the beginning, this radiation wasn't even going to get here, remember?  And how are epa.govs readings 8-9000 miles away higher than Tokyo, 100 miles away?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:49 | 1082911 majia
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Thank you. I'm sorry to be clueless but i cannot understand the significance of these numbers for Tucson AZ

Gamma Energy Range 10 Gross(CPM) 47

Gamma Energy Range 2 Gross(CPM) 2920

Gamma Energy Range 3 Gross(CPM 1575

Gamma Energy Range 4 Gross(CPM 436

Gamma Energy Range 5 Gross(CPM 218

Gamma Energy Range 6 Gross(CPM) 145

Gamma Energy Range 7 Gross(CPM 164

Gamma Energy Range 8 Gross(CPM 102


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:18 | 1083027 ColonelCooper
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Those numbers are measuring gamma, and from what has been explained to me, they are cumulative and are within normal ranges.  The very top number is measuring beta, which would be the iodine fallout, is above the column you are looking at.  These are the numbers that have been running high. 

If I am mistaken in this interpretation, I would appreciate anyone more knowledgable helping to explain it.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:27 | 1083080 majia
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Thank you very much. I'm going to go force feed my kids sea weed again!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:43 | 1083151 ColonelCooper
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The numbers I've seen in the southwest aren't exceeding normal atmospheric radiation at all.  Vegas area and east seems to be high, I've been told that area is just higher than elsewhere.  Higher altitudes also run higher numbers. 

If you look at radiation network, they say 30-60 is normal, and unless it goes above 130, it isn't much to worry about.  Even 130 is just a value that calls for investigation. 

Good luck with the kelp.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:51 | 1082372 Don Birnam
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The devil with radioactive iodine, cesium, millisieverts -- there is but one salient point which must be stressed: the media owe investors an apology for hyping this event, which is now quite clearly under control. Laughable -- alarmists abound simply to sell newspapers and ad space on websites. Jim Altucher knows. The exposure to-date amounts to little more than a "dental x-ray." Now, BTFD, and desist from all this apocalyptic bombast.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:13 | 1082477 Lapri
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Sample was taken near the water outlet of the plant. It seems TEPCO only took one sample. 0.5 liter. They also found cesium-137.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:01 | 1082173 Battleaxe
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Now that they've restored power they'll be able to start pumping some serious quantities of sea water through the reactors and boost these numbers substantially.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:19 | 1082714 buzzsaw99
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+1000 roentgen

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:01 | 1082174 Payne
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It is time for all the forward thinking Japanese people to move to CA.  There will never be a better time to buy.  Take that insurance payout and come to our sunny shores.  This message was not brought to you by Chase Bank.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:09 | 1082212 Larry Darrell
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I wouldn't consider you to be that good at forward thinking if you were Japanese and moved to another part of the world where a massive earthquake / tsunami combo could wreck nuclear power plants.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:08 | 1082456 Gully Foyle
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Larry Darrell

Or where your Radiation followed you.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:14 | 1082234 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Let's face it. When US immigration policies are opened to accept the ~35 million out of the area we'll know that HAARP was deployed.

The answer to Social Security's future, the upside down pyramid, is mass imports. The Indians(dot not woo-woo) failed because they reveal themselves as the slime scum that they are.

Let's try the Japanese.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:52 | 1082561 Lapri
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Japanese may not have a fond memory of immigration to CA. The last time they did in great numbers, they ended up somewhere in Arizona or Idaho. At least for a while.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:02 | 1082179 defn8Dog
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Whale sushi tasting a little "off" soon?   

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:07 | 1082202 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Humor is not the remedy. Let's stop that now.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:05 | 1082191 truont
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NHK Says Water Used To Douse Reactors May Have Leaked Into The Ocean

Gee, ya think?


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:05 | 1082197 alien-IQ
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I find it nearly impossible to not marvel at the markets determination to completely ignore all that is going on in the world let alone manage to put a "positive" spin on things. Indeed Joseph Goebbels would be quite proud of the US media today.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:09 | 1082211 pendragon
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close your eyes and go to your happy place

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:11 | 1082224 Larry Darrell
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I spent a good portion of Saturday evening arguing with my dad's side of the family.

I finally got them to stop interrupting the lessons I was trying to teach when I told them to do a comparison between US now and WW2 Germany and they would realize that we are Hitler's wettest wet dream.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:19 | 1082246 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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You might argue that our lizard overlords learned from the best?

If you are they type to argue such obvious points.... The comparisons are unmistakable.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. More fluoride for the sheeple!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1082262 Azannoth
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It's kinda funny that Jews in America and Israel came closest to realizing 'Hitlers wettest dream' isn't it.


Than again Hitler was merely rephrasing many of the jewish inherent traits when he was writing his 'Mein Kampf' so maybe it' s not all the surprising after all

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:24 | 1082272 alien-IQ
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I've found that it is very difficult to convey such ideas to an older generation since accepting any of those ideas to be fact would shatter the pillars of their belief of what American supposedly is. It's unfortunate, yet sadly understandable. The best hope lays with the younger generation if they can be taught these things despite the brainwashing they get in school. It's a challenge to say the least...but one we must rise up to meet head on.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:19 | 1082249 Battleaxe
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We must all be grateful that the economic toll isn't as bad as the human toll.

-Larry Kudlow

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:09 | 1082210 Hang The Fed
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Well, there's already a great big ball of trash drifting around in the Pacific gyre...might as well make into a radioactive ball of garbage.  If we're resolved to turning the entire planet into fucking cesspool, we might as well do the most thorough job possible.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:57 | 1082428 Temporis
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*Tosses styrofoam cup into the Pacific*

... just doing my part.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:00 | 1082429 Temporis
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Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:09 | 1082219 avonaltendorf
Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:35 | 1082322 Cursive
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OK, I checked it out.  How is this better than concrete and sand entombment?  Cheaper maybe, but not as safe and there is a lot more maintenance if you have to keep the pumps going.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:50 | 1083818 avonaltendorf
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Water is a fast kill, doesn't require a bazillion helicopter dumps and won't crush the spent fuel into a blob. The first 10 feet of water will cool the reactors, the next 10 feet cool spent fuel, 10 more for good measure. Because it's a heavy earthen dike, it's quake resistent. Okay, it's a temporary fix. Add cement and aggregate by conveyer to make a very big block of permanent concrete.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:36 | 1082324 MsCreant
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What about containment from the bottom?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 19:51 | 1083827 avonaltendorf
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How will air drop sand and concrete contain bottom?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:15 | 1082229 TINN
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After Chernobyl the gubbamints increased the maximal allowed daily dose in Scandinavia.

I didnt check if they lowered the levels after, but due to slow half-life probably not, I know they are still monitoring levels though.



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:12 | 1082230 Sophist Economicus
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127 times isn't bad...

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:14 | 1082233 fragrantdingleberry
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I love the smell of cesium in the morning...Smells like...meltdown.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:15 | 1082237 tahoebumsmith
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And soon we will see one of the Japanese leaders swimming in the ocean with his children and eating some local sushi stating come on in everythings fine..

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:33 | 1082315 hedgeless_horseman
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Since had a black president swimming in the GOM to show there is no oil, then will the Japanese have a bald and sterile one swimming off Japan to show no radiation?

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:15 | 1082238 Infinite QE
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Obama needs to drop in, take a swim, and let us know that all is safe. Then eat some shrimp and tofu.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:14 | 1082239 FranSix
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If I were in Hawaii on vacation, I would quietly gather my things, pay my bill at the hotel in full even though I'm cutting short may stay, and tiptoe to the airport and cross my fingers I got a seat and deal with my credit card legacy later.



Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:55 | 1082410 Bay of Pigs
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Seriously? I live here. Winds don't normally come this far south. My old home is in the Pacific NW. That doesn't sound any better either.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 18:05 | 1083429 HK
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I live here too, so I checked around and apparently the ocean currents generally follow the wind patterns, so it will end up in the Pacific Northwest/California first, then maybe catch us on the round trip back.




Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:16 | 1082241 JuicyTheAnimal
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Anyone know the radioactive Cesium/Iodine levels required to lift Godzilla from the sea?  That's all they need next is a freakin Godzilla cuz of this mess. 

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:14 | 1082242 Joe Davola
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Just consider it a kick start to the mutation phase of the genetic algorithm.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:16 | 1082244 TINN
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I said it before and I say it again


Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:19 | 1082256 williambanzai7
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As long as the words "will it alarm people" are in the equation, the truth is a pipe dream.

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:21 | 1082259 The Axe
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Maybe if WE dropped the US DOLLAR in the water, it would be super powerful. Like---ugh..Peter Parker...a radioactive dollar.....

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:06 | 1082442 Temporis
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Your kidding right?

Don't you know the USD is more toxic than the freaking radiation!

Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1082261 Cdad
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  • Kyodo says radioactive caesium found in sea water 24.8 times limit
  • LOL!  Tyler, you kill me, man!  What a funny thing to put out there on merger Monday.  On The Ministry of Truth [CNBC] just minutes ago, a criminal syndicate Wall Street banker just told me, specifically, that there is no bad news today. 


    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1082269 TruthInSunshine
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    All is well.

    The news is reality until reality is literally so close and tangible that people disregard the news.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:31 | 1082305 Cursive
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    Also, don't forget, that the bigger the hole we dig today, the more future economic activity we create for tomorrow.  Bullish.  Nevermind that being down 52-0 to the Packers in the first half is probably too much to overcome by the fourth quarter....

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1082265 High Plains Drifter
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    Is it true that there is over 1000 tons of uranium fuel rods at fukishima and there was a 100 tons at chernobyl? 

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:52 | 1082399 davepowers
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    don't know about Chernobyl, but total tonnage of spent fuel is probably well over 1000 tons. there was an official TEPCO report from around Nov. 2010 that came to the surface last week. it contained detailed tonnage calculations of waste and common pools. I can't find it at the moment, but if someone can repost it you'll find the best info there. 

    The report concluded that about 84% (my recall) of total storage capacity was being used. It went into dry container storage methods in great detail and appeared to be one of those glossy corporate publications designed to promote the notion that TEPCO was on top of the growing pile of waste.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:48 | 1082553 Matte_Black
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    The last numbers I saw (including spent rods) were:

    Chernobyl        140 tons

    Fukushima       4000 tons 

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:23 | 1082270 Biggvs
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    Caesium-135 has a half-life of "only" 2.3 million years. No problem, nothing to see here. BTFD.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:27 | 1082296 SheepDog-One
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    Screw it, let the grandkids deal with it Ive got an appointment at the IStore.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:35 | 1082316 Gene Parmesan
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    I like this. Just think of how resourceful the coming generations will be after dealing with this mess and all the debt we've piled on their backs. They'll have more character than they'll know what to do with.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:40 | 1082345 MsCreant
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    More than us apparently. Kinda like naming your boy Sue.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:23 | 1082271 ShankyS
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    Market manilulation leves at 1,000x higher than previously thought.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:24 | 1082277 Milestones
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    Not to be a party pooper and I'm of course way off target--but has anyone heard anything about the "oil slick" 10 Miles X 100 Miles in the Gulf of Mexico?? Last I seen from a tag in that it is now alleged to be stirred up river bottom scum from dregging in the Mississippi River!!! I shit you not!

    Time to start playing "can you top this??       Milestones

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:39 | 1082347 davepowers
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    this am's radio report has upgraded/downgraded the scum to sludge


    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1082280 Josh Randall
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    Well according to The Oracle of Omaha, the discoloration in the water isn't radiation, but green shoots of economic prosperity - so buy you dummys, BUY

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1082283 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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    The comedians make a wonderful post lunch entertainment show.

    I wonder if some of the hollywood lizard people will send scouts over and hand out contracts for your own show on CNBC?

    Do any of the comedians dance? ZeroIdol auditions in 3, 2, 1.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:25 | 1082287 bugs_
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    Here in the Deflationist's Lounge we are just getting more demoralized.  It seems that everything is going up, even radioactivity and radioactivity limits.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1082293 jmc8888
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    I wonder how far it goes, spreading at what rate, and like airflows shown...the water currents.

    So what's worse, BP Shrimp, or Nuclear Sushi?

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 14:05 | 1082449 countryboy42
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    Eat the BP shrimp. Full of iodine, and the oil helps keep your fur nice and shiney.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:28 | 1082295 Cursive
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    Will next season of "The Deadliest Catch" be filmed on location just of the Fukushima beach?

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:29 | 1082300 SheepDog-One
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    I dont know, but I just heard Justin Biebers new hit single 'My Glowin Yokohama Mama'!! Dowloaded to IPad x infinity.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:00 | 1082956 Convolved Man
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    I saw this movie at a midnight horror matinee TV showing with my siblings and cousins at my cousin's house when I was about 7 years old.

    The giant crabs, a result of nuclear radiation, made a clicking sound; which in the dark of night was the only way you knew they were very close by.  After all of us kids went to bed, thoroughly petrified by the visions of giant man-eating crabs, I awoke later in the dead of night by a repetitive clicking sound just above and behind the head of my cot.  Horrified, I pulled the covers over my head, hoping it would provide protection against being seen and attacked.  While the sound continued, I slowly drifted back to sleep and in the morning awoke dizzy headed, still cowering under the covers.  I forgot why I was under the covers till I became aware of the clicking sound coming from a reciprocating fan sitting on a table at the head of my cot.  I hadn't even noticed the fan in the room and someone must have turned it on after we had all gone to sleep.  By the light of day, the clicking sound wasn't threatening at all.  I knew no one would be able to relate to my ordeal -- you just had to experience it for yourself.

    Similarly, our observations on the distant Fukushima disaster lack visceral context.  It's one thing to tell you not to be concerned that long standing, government mandated radiation exposure limits have been raised "over there" when "over there" is 12000 miles away and quite another thing when it's only 12 miles away.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:28 | 1082298 LostWages
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    Speaking of contaminated sea water, any news on the new slick in the gulf?  Surely our Coast Guard has enough experience by now to make a determination is less than 5 days.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:37 | 1082328 bob_dabolina
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    I think the coast guard said it was chocolate syrup or something.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:42 | 1082357 Cursive
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    FYI, Huffpo carried the story and there is a Drudge-like Louisiana blog, that aggregates oil spill and other news for Louisiana.  Check out these stories:

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:50 | 1082379 earnyermoney
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    Coast guard said it was due to a "dredging" operation. Sounds about right, dredging stirred up all the oil and corexit.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 16:12 | 1082992 TruthInSunshine
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    Coast Guard says 'silt,' last I heard, while crabbers in area with eyes burning said 'oil.'

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:31 | 1082302 redpill
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    Good article describing the absurdity of current spent fuel storage pool usage both in Japan and in the US.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:52 | 1082390 PY-129-20
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    Tokyo Electric Power Co Inc 9501.T ¥948 +143.00+17.94% --- LOL - I hope other energy companies don't get the idea that an exploding nuclear plant is actually bullish...

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:33 | 1082309 gordengeko
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    Don't drink the water.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:37 | 1082340 THE DORK OF CORK
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    Drink the beer.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 15:03 | 1082556 Sweet Chicken
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    This land is your land, this land my land

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:34 | 1082318 gwar5
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    They don't call it seize-ium for nothing. 

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:35 | 1082325 squexx
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    Too bad all this earthquake crap in Japan didn't happen in Israel!

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:45 | 1082366 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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    I for one am glad it did not happen in israel.

    The US Congress at the bequest of AIPAC would send them ALL US gold reserves to 'assist' in disaster recovery.

    If it did not amount to much, AIPAC accountants would find a way to transfer roughly 122 Trillion to ease the suffering.

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:37 | 1082337 davepowers
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    any significance to the concrete mixers and crane @ #3 -4 shown on the daily mail photo/article posted by Youri Carma?


    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:49 | 1082376 Jim in MN
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    That's a lotta gear.  All we've been told about is running conduit for power delivery.  Also training in pouring concrete, but no explanation given for that.

    Wonder what the satellite shots will show by tomorrow?

    Maybe they're building a new garage.  You know, always wanted a nice one, closer to the units, got the gear, what the hey....

    Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:48 | 1082378 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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    The white smoke is concrete burning.

    Praying to the handicap gods.

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