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Radioactive Dust From Japan Hit North America Days After Disaster ... But Governments "Lied" About Meltdowns and Radiation

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I started warning the day after the Japanese earthquake that radiation from Fukushima could reach North America. See this, this and this.

Mainichi Daily reports today:

Radioactive
materials spewed out from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power
Plant reached North America soon after the meltdown and were carried
all the way to Europe, according to a simulation by university
researchers.

 

The computer simulation by researchers at Kyushu
University and the University of Tokyo, among other institutions,
calculated dispersal of radioactive dust from the Fukushima plant beginning at 9 p.m. on March 14, when radiation levels around the plant spiked.

 

The
team found that radioactive dust was likely caught by the jet stream
and carried across the Pacific Ocean, its concentration dropping as it
spread. According to the computer model, radioactive materials at a
concentration just one-one hundred millionth of that found around the
Fukushima plant hit the west coast of North America three days later, and reached the skies over much of Europe about a week later.

 

According
to the research team, updrafts in a low-pressure system passing over
the disaster-stricken Tohoku region on March 14-15 carried some of the
radioactive dust that had collected about 1.5 kilometers above the
plant to an altitude of about 5 kilometers. The jet stream then caught
the dust and diffused it over the Pacific Ocean and beyond.

Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen notes that Seattle residents breathed in an average of 5 "hot particles" a day in April:

Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle Virtually Undetectable when Inhaled or Swallowed from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.

Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle Virtually Undetectable when Inhaled or Swallowed from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.

(No, the levels of radiation are not safe.)

I also have repeatedly pointed out that Tepco, the Japanese government and governments around the world covered up the extent of the Fukushima crisis. See this, this, this and this.

Now even the International Atomic Energy Agency and World Meteorological Organization are complaining
that they were unable to obtain necessary information from Japan about
Fukushima, which led to difficulties projecting how radioactive
materials would spread around world.

However, this is somewhat disingenuous given that the IAEA and Nuclear Regulatory Commission knew within weeks that there had been meltdowns.

Indeed, as the prestigious scientific journal Nature notes:

Shortly
after a massive tsunami struck the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power
plant on 11 March, an unmanned monitoring station on the outskirts of
Takasaki, Japan, logged a rise in radiation levels. Within 72 hours,
scientists had analysed samples taken from the air and transmitted
their analysis to Vienna, Austria — the headquarters of the Preparatory
Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization
(CTBTO), an international body set up to monitor nuclear weapons tests.

It was just the start of a flood of data collected about the accident
by the CTBTO's global network of 63 radiation monitoring stations. In
the following weeks, the data were shared with governments around the world, but not with academics or the public.

The attempted cover up of the severity of the Fukushima disaster is nothing new. Governments have been covering up nuclear meltdowns for 50 years, and the basic design for nuclear reactors was not chosen for safety, but because it worked on Navy submarines ... and produced plutonium for the military. (Indeed, the government's response to every crisis appears to be to try to cover it up.)

Finally, I've previously noted that the amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima dwarfs Chernyobyl.

Arnie Gundersen has said that Fukushima is the worst industrial accident in history, and has 20 times more radiation than Chernobyl.

Well-known physicist Michio Kaku just confirmed all of the above in a CNN interview:

In the last two weeks, everything we knew about that accident has been turned upside down. We were told three partial melt downs, don’t worry about it. Now we know it was 100 percent core melt in all three reactors. Radiation minimal that was released. Now we know it was comparable to radiation at Chernobyl.

 

***

 

We knew it was much more severe than they were saying, because radiation was coming out left and right. So in other words, they lied to us.

***

In
New York City, you can actually see it in the milk. You can actually
see it has iodine, 131, actually spiked a little bit in our milk in New
York City, but it is very small.

***

Realize Chernobyl was one core’s worth radiation causing a $200 billion accident and it is still on- going. Here we have 20 cores worth of radiation. Three totally melted, one damaged and the [rest in] spent fuel pumps, 20 cores worth of highly radioactive materials.

 


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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 03:17 | Link to Comment dcb
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KUDOs TO gw, HE WAS ON THE LIES OUT O JAPAN FROM EARLY ON, and the details turn out to be much worse than we were told. even i could not have imagined they would have lied about three complete meltdowns. maybe cover up one or something. But this is over the top.

the scenario in every major crisis we have had is a corrupt covernment owned by corporate interests, playing along ignoring dangers, etc. then it blows up, then there is cover up. that is the playbook from the financial crisis, to deeep water crisis, eurodebt crisis, japan nuclear crisis. in all instances government had clear signals but ignored the problem because of short term business interests. maybe not 9/11, but there was sure enough warning and cover up to follow. So at this point the baseline for everyone should be not to believe the mainstream media.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Anybody remember this old chestnut from right after the Big One?  The video still works....they were tracking the plume from T+1....internationally.

by Jim in MN
on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:02
#1050166

 

Hey Tyler and whomever...check this out.  IAEA secretary general touring their disaster response team in action.  Pretty boring, right? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiWVO6FNg0

Pause at 0:46.  Interesting data.  Wonder what it is?  Good questions being asked at 0:55 to the Unit 2 folks back in Japan.  Wonder what they said in response?

Still scanning video to see if anyone has ZH up on their desktop.  Or nudies.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 00:29 | Link to Comment Element
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Funny how the wave map looked like a fallout plume.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:25 | Link to Comment Whoa Dammit
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City in Japan sets its own radiation dose level for children:

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110623p2a00m0na018000c.html

"...staff and children at the school must wear hats ...and gargle regularly."

The question of the day: Are the hats tinfoil?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 00:31 | Link to Comment Element
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and gargle regularly."

With water contaminated by Strontium90.

 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:15 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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Has the fallout reached Bretton Woods, or even the Hamptons? If not, TPTB will not care. Maybe we can get the population down to their goal of 500-600 million this way, so all the better.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Plumplechook
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Relax bitchez.  Lady Gaga says everything is OK:

http://www.japantoday.com/category/picture-of-the-day/view/going-gaga#comments

Meanwhile in the real world reactor 4 spent fuel pool heating up again - and only a few degrees below boiling point. 

http://atmc.jp/plant/pool/?n=4

The conundrum they have is that they have to keep pumping upward of 100 tons of water per day into the pool to keep the fuel assemblies from overheating - but the building itself is so unstable there is still major concern about the weight of the pool causing the building to collpase.   At which point things will become VERY interesting.

 

 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:11 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Yup. Biggest crap about this disaster is that it continues..... and there is no end in sight to accumulation.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 20:37 | Link to Comment lawton
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Thu, 06/23/2011 - 20:34 | Link to Comment lawton
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Is Florida affected by this ?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Idiot Savant
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I'm under the impression that the nasty stuff (Caesium-137) isn't carried far in the air. However, I'd like to hear educated opinions on how C-137 will likely react in water, and how far it might be carried by currents.

At this point, I'm more concerned with what's being dumped in the ocean, than what's in the air.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Element
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Heavy metals have a high affinity with the crystalline lattice structure of clays (phyllosilicates).

Most long-lived radionuclides are heavy metals.

Littoral waters have a lot of clays, especially estuaries and mid-shelf fishing zones.

Critter filter-feeders eat in this clay and constantly mix it and re-mobilize it.

Trawler nets re-mobilize it.

Waves and winds re-mobilize it.

Bigger critters eat smaller critters.

 

Humans eat all.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Rynak
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GW, when you talk of low-radiation longterm effects, i think you need to make people aware, that they need to think of this in a totally different way. When you speak of such things in a style, as if they are an urgent immediate danger... so, alarmist.... then you DO set yourself up for being ridiculed, and losing credibility among anyone who isn't paranoid for the sake of being paranoid.

To explain the context:

Humans are changing the entire balance of things in the environment. Almost nothing is "normal" anymore.... this isn't anything specific to radiation.... it applies to levels of almost anything... even something as generic as light. Yes, we are saturating the atmosphere with light. It's called "light pollution" - i.e. in locations like central europe, there for example is no "deep night" anymore. Normally this is only considered a problem for nightsky enthusiasts and astronomy..... however, a permanent change of lightlevel does subtly affect everyone and everything..... for example, there are statistics, that sleep-cycles of animals in such countries have changed. Will it kill you? Does it represent an immediate and direct danger? No, don't be ridiculous. And yet: When looking at the big picture, and considering the future, is it frightening that we slowly saturate the environment with certain chemicals, and electromagnetic frequencies (including light).... and yet have no clear understanding about what this may mean in the longterm? I think so, yes.

So, what i'm trying to communicate here, is that things like low-level radiation, and increase of background radiation, are certainly problematic, when we think about longterm effects and on a global scale.... especially when considering that we are raising levels in many other things too, and have no clear idea about the longterm consequences - we just know that for now, it's not bad. However, this is an entirely different kind of "fear", than "oh noes, this may kill me in 10 years or give me cancer in that timespan".

So, if you want to be alarmist, then you should make it clear that you are talking about permanent longterm issues, rather than immediate dangers. This isn't "oh noes, something bad is coming here!".... it is "umm, the direction we're going may not be a good thing in the long run, if we continue this way"

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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I've said this more than once and I will say it again.  2/3 of Japan may become uninhabitable from this nuclear incident.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Loose Caboose
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I have received an invitation to visit some friends on the west coast of Canada next month and I am hesitating.  I'm near the great lakes and while I know that radiation has made it's way here as well, the levels would seem to be higher on the coast and it gets so much rain - deadly as fallout.  Not only that, but flying into Vancouver, high in the clouds, if it's a particularly bad day for the jet stream, who knows how much of a dose you're getting?  I don't think it's worth the risk to fly west from where I am.  They will be offended as they are asleep to the danger they are bathed in daily as they go about their idealic life on the coast.

In future, if I do get cancer, which a lot of us will, anyway, I would like the peace of mind to know I didn't do something stupid like gather more exposure than necessary.  It's only years from now that they will tell us what folly it was to believe the TPTB and the MSM on this one.  So, I'm playing it safe, staying home, and may lose a friend over it.

I feel badly for everyone on the west coast.  What do you do?  My friends have property and have a good life out there.  I can see where it's more expedient to drown out the distant voices warning of future ramifications. But I don't have to join them in their delusion. 

This is a clusterfuck that will keep on giving for decades.  It's not too much of a stretch to imagine it could wind up being an open Pandora's Box - spewing poison that will accumulate in the sea and on land to the point where we, and most other species, will go the way of the great dinosaurs, over time.

Disobey.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:23 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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If you are not expecting a child and your growth plates have closed, than go see your friend and try not to worry about it. 

If you were going to Japan, than that would be a different story. 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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This is so much malarkey - in Scientific terms. Chernobyl was graphite moderated and the core overheated during an extreme critical cycle, exploded, burned the graphite, and essentially evaporated most of the core into a cloud that went sky-high within minutes.  The Fukushima reactors slowly overheated from shutdown and melted into the bottom of the containment vessel.  There was no strong mechanism to loft the smoke and particles from this into the stratosphere.  Radiation levels at Chernobyl were so high it was suicide to enter the area for months.  Not so with Fukushima.  High radiation but not like Chernobyl.  Of course, there are four damaged reactors in Japan that need to be cleaned up and that will cost a cool hundred billion or more.  Don't go all squiggly over this accident. 

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 00:58 | Link to Comment Element
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and essentially evaporated most of the core into a cloud that went sky-high within minutes.

 

Incorrect, on many levels.  Almost all of the fuel is still in the reactor basement levels at Chernobyl, only a small fraction of it vaporized.

The Japanese discovered radioactive debris around the reactors that could give you a lethal dose in litterally minutes, just like at Chernobyl. The hotspot survey maps are online and I'd be surprised if they were not also posted at zh at some point.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 20:15 | Link to Comment Fukushima Sam
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"Radioactive substances rose to about 5 kilometres when a low pressure system passed over eastern Japan on March 14-15, the researchers said."

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1647024....

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:49 | Link to Comment bbq on whitehou...
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You don't need a tin hat to "feel" danger.

Trust your instincts, they have 2.x billion years of experience.

You don't need to know the details of how, only of when; Now. This is what you must trust.

Watch out for logic and reason. It can confuse you, don't trust in your understanding of them.

In your intuition you must trust. So many pys-ops to get you to ignore your "gut" feelings. Don't ever ignore your feelings in place of the false idol of logic or reason.

Logic and reason will be there in your feelings so trust in them. Logic and reason will back you up on that feeling but only from a greater understanding then you maybe able to put words or thoughts to.

Humans are not as wize or as clever as they think they are. So always trust in that 2+billion year old voice, it has experience and wisdom beyond our humble years.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:47 | Link to Comment apberusdisvet
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Isn't it Czar Holdren who wants population control and the world's population back down to 1 billion?  No matter, after 20 years no one will live beyond 60 anymore; entitlement and deficit problem solved.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:30 | Link to Comment web bot
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You know those guys who wear tin hats, the conspiracy nuts... maybe they are on to something????

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:25 | Link to Comment bbq on whitehou...
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There are no winners here. Radiation is not the problem, its how it is delivered that causes problems.

Take the sun its a beautiful thing. But who wants the sun in their brain, or lungs?

Take a tree or other plant its cell walls are built to absorb radiation its roots are built to isolate toxins.

Human cells not so much, animals are ment to move away from toxins unlike plants.

So do you move or stay?

We all just lost 20years and the children under 10 have just lost 30years.

If you want to remove tumors for a living then Japan or the West coast of the US and Canada are the places you want to practice. Because you will get a lot of it in 5 years.

 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:21 | Link to Comment Juice Box
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Japan brought us karoake, the compact car, quantitative easing, and neat little transistor radios.  Behold their new export - nuclear radiation.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  Damn they never stop exporting us crap we don't need! 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Youri Carma
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Fukushima Day 99- Infant Deaths up 48% in Philadelphia USA since Japan meltdowns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQeDOj2FHpE
Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:59 | Link to Comment Bagbalm
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I see - you are calling them out because they did not announce what you only see in a simulation - not hard data taken with instruments. What a jackass. Yes we know it will go around the world and it will kill one here one there. What are we to do about it? You offer no solution just ranting about what we already know. Do you want to overthrow the powers that lie to you? Lots of luck with that.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:08 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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What are we to do about it? You offer no solution just ranting about what we already know.

What you do is take reasonable precautions, if you are pregnant or have little one (pre teens still growing). For example, do not drink milk or water supplies that have been contaminated and watch what you eat, wear a simple particle mask so on and so forth, min. the dust in your house, etc.  Simply put, try to minimize the kids exposure.   If your older, than chances are something else will kill you first.

But if you keep the general population ignorant, than those simple common sense changes in behavior will not occur.

 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:28 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Trolls to the left of me
Trolls to the right of me.

Sure we cant overthrow tptb until they self destruct, but words and action do matter. There is no "safe" level of radiation.

People now know about these events and how much was covered up under the pretense "well...we dont have absolute proof yet about (core meltdown, sea level radioactivity, containment breech, just pick a topic).

The more this irresponsibility is blogged, the lower chance any new nukes get built in the usa and that is fine wirh me. We can make a diffetence. Not always, but sometimes

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 23:12 | Link to Comment trav7777
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JFC don't have a banana then

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:01 | Link to Comment curly
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George, please give it a rest.  For what real scientists, located in Seattle, found and have to say:

http://gigaom.com/cloud/how-nosql-is-helping-allay-seattles-radiation-fe...

http://www.npl.washington.edu/monitoring/node/1

The Japanese and US officials can "lie" all they want, or rather, anti-nuclear reactionary activistis can misrepresent all they want.  The physics doesn' t lie.

And http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.4853 for hard core nuke physics types.

 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 20:29 | Link to Comment 401DK
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Your nuclear ( industry) experts reference conveniently looked only at gamma emitters, leaving out the highly toxic/carcinogenic/mutagenic alpha emitters. These are what Gunderson, Sherman and others ( New York Academy of Sciences) are so concerned about. Cesium, Iodine, Strontium and others are inhaled or ingested and incorporated into our bodies, radiating a small, number (100 give or take) surrounding cells for months or years.. Basic cellular biology is pretty clear that cancer starts from a single cell with an unfortunate DNA mutation(s) allowing it to grow uncontrollably, so it only takes one cell with a bad DNA hit to kill you (you mom, kids, dog, etc). That is thebbasis of " no safe dose of internal emitters." Enjoy your tuna and salmon and milk while you can. As an Ivy League trained physician I was surprised to have learned so little about these dangers in med school, but the risk appears real and only getting more scary as emissions will continue for months at best, years or longer at worst. Mark Ps Anyone wanting more info ought to check enernews.com and fairwinds.com. For a detailed medical analysis, check outnthebNY ACdaemy of Sciences Review of Chernobyl Effects edited by Dr Janette Sherman. Good luck and spread the word...No one else is.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:01 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Basic cellular biology is pretty clear that cancer starts from a single cell with an unfortunate DNA mutation(s) allowing it to grow uncontrollably, so it only takes one cell with a bad DNA hit to kill you (you mom, kids, dog, etc).

This is misleading. It it conveys the impression that a single cancer cell will automatically kill you. This is not true. Cancer cells are killed regularily (yes, the body has means to combat cancer, else everyone would die from cancer in no time). What an increase in cancer cells does, is to increase cancer risk, not guarantee cancer.

Thus, yes radiation in the way that you described does increase cancer risk (i leave the intensity undefined here), but to imply that it guarantees cancer is simply untrue.

Notice that the rule, that there is no guaranteed safe dosis, remains unaffected. An increase in risk, still is an increase in risk, regardless of the intensity.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:08 | Link to Comment 401DK
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Rynak, I did not mean to imply hat any exposure to internal emitters, or any carcinogen for that matter, " guarantees " cancer, nor does my post state that, as best I can tell. The immune system does, of course, play an ongoing critical role in not just combatting infectious threats, but malignant transformations of our host cells as well. Theory and basic science always has it's limits, in my mind, as an epirically based surgeon, but the NY Academy of Sciences review paper edited by Janette Stewart MD (if memory serves me on the spelling of her name) goes into great detail of the practical, real world health effects on multiple organ systems, age groups, and species of the horrendous fallout from Chernobyl. Given that there is many times the radiation release risk from Fukishima, it is mandatory reading for anyone with a serious interest, or opinion, on the subject (let alone children, loved ones, pets, breast cancer risk, etc.). While reading Zero Hedge and enlightening oneself to the historic evolving threats we all face as we enter historic times may save your wealth and short term safety, without your health it is a false profit.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Rynak
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I mostly agree. While i may contrary to some ZH readers may not consider radiation release outside of asia, as a serious immediate risk, i do as i hinted in a post further downwards, consider it a problem, that background low-radiation levels are constantly increasing, in the long run.

So, outside of asia, besides of food, i do not see a significant immediate risk so far. I do however consider it in the long run problematic, that increases in background radiation is accumulating (especially, because no one has a fucking clue for how long japan will continue to spew radiation into the atmosphere, thus increasing accumulation worldwide).

I have similiar concerns, about other kinds of man-made global saturation of stuff. Things may become best understandable, if i mention my take on the climate change topic: Most talk is focussed on in which direction the norm should be manipulated. This IMO is starting the discussion with a completely wrong question, considering the circumstances: We currently don't know what would be right, so the sane approach would be, to limit our influence to as much as is necessary, until we understand what's going on - premise for this being, that statistically nature knows better how to design stuff globally, than humans. Or in short: Until we with high certainity understand something, it is my opinion that we should just play safe, by keeping own influence down to that which is necessary. Plus: It is always easier in such topics, to add more stuff, than to reduce accumulation again.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:47 | Link to Comment JamesBond
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its his cause celebre

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:00 | Link to Comment YHC-FTSE
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I believe I was one of the first (If not the first) on any website in the world to predict (I haven't checked other languages) the radiation from Fukushima landing on the West coast of America, and provided jetstream patterns to prove it. Although I didn't believe it myself at the time, I also predicted the explosions from the burning of secondary material - this was when all the buildings were still intact and only a warning of radiation from venting was announced after the tsunami hit. Not exactly a feat I am proud of, but I did warn everyone long before we knew what was happening. 

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/radiation-leak-feared-fukushima-nuclear...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/nuclear-expert-fukushima-has-24-hours-a...

 

Months too late, but they can still cover the area with tons of lead and concrete, which is what they will have to do eventually anyway. 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:58 | Link to Comment lincolnsteffens
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What's to be upset about. There is no problem. It is just world government experimenting on population controll and genetic engineering. Next time you hear "Hi, I'm from your government and I'm here to help you" it is time to get out of town.

 

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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Next time you hear a presidential candidate use that phrase as part of his campaign to persuade people he's for smaller government, it's time to get out of town.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:46 | Link to Comment geekgrrl
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I made this very point right after the distaster - that the Japanese would lie through their teeth about what actually happened, just like the US did about TMI, and the Russians did about Chernobyl. Nothing authorities say should be believed. Ever. This is doubly true for anything related to nuclear.

Anyone hear anything about Fort Calhoun? Oh, that's right, I forgot: everything is so "safe" that Obama ordered a news blackout. Total credibility fail.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:52 | Link to Comment geekgrrl
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What's interesting is that there is no real news about the plant. When newpapers write articles entitled "Rumors swirl around state nuclear plants," that means they don't have any facts to report. That's what a news blackout looks like.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:32 | Link to Comment MGA_1
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I'm moving underground.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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And I'm going long shovels.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:26 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Was wonderin' about that 6lb frog in the pool filter...

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:56 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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...most likely it's the ''Turkle'', not a frog. (go to 05:21) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlr6Ft-Rv0

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:11 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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That, sir, is funny.  Squirrkey with the tomater in the jowls - ROFL!

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:27 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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...again, embarrassing and pathetic. Pure evil and it's host obviously has power over the people because, the short term gain corrupts and kills defense for life in the long term and thereby shortens time until there is no long term for the short term to exist. Event Horizon Bitchez, this train has sailed. Just think of the ocean, how in the wide world of sport is that quantified into the new Fukushima death cycle? Just ridiculous, the whole thing is just evil.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 16:26 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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Yes, I read the coast--mainly Cali, Oregon and Washington State--were bathed in radiation but I don't know if they still are. I also do not know why the EPA stopped taking readings out there?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 19:32 | Link to Comment HK
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For those of you interested in radiation, here's another little simulation:

 

http://stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=npac_250

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 17:00 | Link to Comment TheMerryPrankster
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I don't know why the EPA stopped taking radiation readings either, but it probably wasn't because the readings were so much better than everyone expected. Likely the readings showed a high raditation level and could be used as scientific evidence. The powers that be don't like the common folk to have actual evidence. Real quantifiable data is just so difficult to dispute in court or public discussion.

 

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