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As Radioactive Iodine Cloud Passes Over Korea, Government Downplays Risks

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It appears that the Standard Operating Procedure following the Fukushima fallout so far has been: 1) deny, 2), deny 3) deny, 4) raise safety limit, 5) collapse in a sniveling heap of guilt. Korea seems to be between step 1 and 2. As the following animation from ZAMG demonstrates, courtesy of Northeastern winds, a major cloud of radioactive Iodine  131 is currently passing right over South Korea. Making matters worse is the fact that it is currently drizzling in the landlucklocked nation, putting people on edge. Yet one cursory look at Korean press, in this case Arirang, demonstrates that absolutely nothing has changed in how governments, ready to sacrifice everything at the altar of mass panic, interact with their population when it comes to sensitive issues such as radioactive rain. "Meanwhile unlike many have anticipated the Korea Meteorological Administration assured that the seasonal winds accompanied by rain approaching from Japan will have almost no impact on Korea." Well, there's spin and there's facts. And for what it's worth the animation shows the facts. This way at least some people will have the choice of making an informed decision. Others may just wake up with superhuman powers soon enough.

http://www.zamg.ac.at/pict/aktuell/20110405_fuku_I-131.gif

More from Arirang:

With Japan's Fukushima nuclear crisis still lingering the Korean government is accelerating efforts to mitigate the impact of nuclear fallout in Korea.

President Lee Myung-bak visited the Korea Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday and urged authorities to toughen safety checks on food imported from Japan, as well as to provide prompt and accurate inspection results to the public.

Inter-ministerial meetings, led by the Prime Minister's Office were also held on the same day to seek appropriate measures in dealing with Japan's nuclear aftermath on a pan government level.

Special task force meetings will be held twice a week presided by the Prime Minister's Office and attended by ministers of the relevant bodies, including the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology.

The task force will mainly discuss measures to counter nuclear leaks and ways to strengthen the safety of Korea's nuclear plants, as well as food imported from Japan.

The weather agency's spokesman Kim Seung-bae said at a briefing held on Wednesday, that air current analysis shows that the winds blowing from the island nation will circle clockwise and fade out towards the Pacific Ocean by Friday, leaving the Korean peninsula unaffected.

Officials added, however, they will step up monitoring traces of radioactive materials throughout Korea and especially on Jeju Island, since it will be hit before any other regions if the winds unexpectedly blow towards Korea.

While we are glad to hear that by Friday the radiation should clear out, we can't help but wonder what happens to that one day between Wednesday and Friday...

 

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Wed, 04/06/2011 - 20:37 | 1143515 Chumbadumba
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"Jellyfish babies", bitches!

I AM CHUMBADUMBA! LOLOLOL!!

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:23 | 1162132 Marla And Me
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And that's the catch-22 of proposing a space for free speech: it's really easy for psy-ops fools to derail the conversation with idiotic charicatures of real commenters. Here is our newest copy-cat - Chumbadumba http://www.zerohedge.com/users/chumbadumba Notice that this character was created at least 43 weeks ago, but only started posting a bit over two months ago, which coincided with the return of the real chumbawumba. I know we all love this space, but when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think that all that the Tylers do is create a pen to direct all the like-minded individuals to in order to make their identification easier. There are at least 10 similar characters around. Now that Redneck isn't around anymore, we get that green mouse. At least Redneck was funny. The green mouse, not so much. His M.O. is ad hominem every single time. Dedicated Trolls are all over this board, just like they are over at the Wall Street Journal (Marcia Crowley anyone?). Sad... Although I love this ZH information outlet, I often wonder if it isn't much more than a Langley/Brzezinski creation that the Russian trader Tyler had to agree to as part of his plea deal...

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 20:39 | 1143516 Whoa Dammit
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Here’s my take on Operation Big Sheet:

It means one of the following:

A) Our current world leaders are way too fixated on all things TARP. (Timmay wants to know if it will be made out of rubber).

B) There is a Klan resurgence. (Hot dang boys we gonna have us a per-pet-tual burnin’ cross thar too. Cain’t wait to show it off to Ma & the kids).

C) TEPCO plans to scare those pesky radionucleotides back into the reactors through its creative utilization of the Ghost of Fukushima Past.

Or

D) The results of a worldwide consensus by experts in the nuclear field as to how to resolve the Fukushima crisis was translated by into Japanese by Google as “Sheet On It!”.

 

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 20:46 | 1143548 Rodent Freikorps
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I did not know this:

The disaster at Fukushima isn’t the first quake-related accident for Tepco. A 6.8 magnitude temblor on July 2007 caused a fire and radiation leaks that shut down the seven-reactor Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear plant, the world’s biggest. It took almost two years to restart and three reactors remained shut down at the time of last week’s quake.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=japanese-energy-firm-tepco8217s-market-value-falls-24-billion-2011-03-16

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 20:59 | 1143585 jelyfish
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Somehow it avoids Tokyo.  Propaganda machine is well lubed.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:11 | 1144954 primalplasma
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I may be paranoid, but I think that they are using HAARP to push the clouds away from Tokyo. Just saying.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 21:18 | 1143638 Youri Carma
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4/6/2011 -- USA RADIATION CHARTS -- MODELS -- now revealed http://youtu.be/5GsBsat5c1g

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 01:39 | 1144162 i-dog
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From your linked video: "A subscriber -- who I can't contact -- sent me this and asked me not to send it out. So, I'm sending it out."

WTF?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 21:27 | 1143662 ucbanpo
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@toxic8

 

I think you can get the info here,

http://pcc-772.com/

 

But I couldn't find a english version of the full report. I read it last year.

Also, this following website is a kind of Korean version of zerohedge, and the founder of the website is the one investigating the event, and made the english version of the report. You might get it if you ask him. His name is Sangchul Shin(???).

 

http://www.seoprise.com/

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 21:38 | 1143700 Youri Carma
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NukAlert Radiation Detector in Alabama chirping 9 times in a row 04-06-2011 http://youtu.be/0RHNLjmwFjo

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 21:38 | 1143709 Ahmeexnal
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What about meltdown at Natanz and Bushehr? Why hasn't the media covered those nuclear disasters?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 22:19 | 1143833 Mr. Mandelbrot
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The Iranian media hinted that something happened at Bushehr (fuel replaced, design changed, etc.) . . .

 

http://www.payvand.com/news/11/mar/1120.html

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 22:10 | 1143798 AN0NYM0US
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and in other news

Drinking India’s tap water can yield more than a bad case of Delhi belly.

Scientists testing water samples from New Delhi found more than a dozen species of bacteria, ranging from strains that cause pneumonia to cholera. The bugs had genes that enable them to resist almost all medicines

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 08:33 | 1144688 TaxSlave
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I wouldn't drink that water unless it were irradiated.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 22:28 | 1143848 99er
Wed, 04/06/2011 - 22:51 | 1143914 Sweet Chicken
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Is this legit?!

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:21 | 1144008 Aristarchan
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Rumor is that AIDS has become airborne infective.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:15 | 1144826 Jim in MN
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Calm down, they were SCUBA suits.  With fins.  In a nice hot pink.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 22:47 | 1143904 Madhouse
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THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. WE MUST TURN THIS SITE INTO A CONCRETE MOUNTAIN, BUT RAPIDO.

IT HAS ALL BEEN LIES. IF THERE WAS ONE TIME TO CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON AND SENATOR, NOW IS THAT TIME. THE JAPS NEED TO BE BITCH SLAPPED I AM SORRY TO SAY AFTER WE GET THERE HEADS OUT OF THE SAND.

SPIKE IN CANCER COMING. ANYONE ELSE FEELING ODD THESE PAST WEEKS ?  ITS BECAUSE THE RADIATION LEVELS ARE OFF THE FUCKING CHARTS. CORPORATE NEWS IS BANNED FROM COVERING THE TRUE EXTENT. THE JAPS BOUGHT USED PLUTONIUM FROM THE RUSSIANS - SO THIS IS NO CHERNOBLE - IT IS WORSE AND IT IS COMING THIS WAY IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOWN WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS OR WHERE JAPAN IS. THE MOST TOXIC RADIOACTIVE CLOUD EVER IS MOVING OUR FUCKING WAY.

MEANWHILE I AM NOT SURE WHICH IS DUMBER - THE COMING SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN AT THE BELTWAY THEATRE OR THE SOLD OUT CHARLIE SHEEN SHOWS...

WASHINGTON AND HOLLYWOOD: FUCK YOU, ONCE AGAIN.

WHAT A FUCKING MADHOUSE - THINGS SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL...

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:33 | 1144223 medicalstudent
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yes, the caps are warranted but egregious nevertheless and a tad distracting and distasteful.

 

as for taste, water tastes best when it is reverse osmosed.

 

(read: buy one)

 

plutonium could kill everything and everyone yes, but (i believe to have read) it is very non volatile and quite heavy.

 

cesium is the primary issue for the united bernankrupt neofascist states of obamacare.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:23 | 1145018 Ruffcut
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RO's removes the trace minerals and elements your body needs.

Some doctor you'll be. Script me some more poison please.

I'll take two and try to call you in the morning, but will be too polluted and sick to do so.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:37 | 1145070 primalplasma
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Exactly. People are ignoring the real danger here which is Cesium-137. The reason why they are ignoring it is because the media wont talk about it.

Cesium-137 causes irreparable damage to DNA and reproductive organs. It causes horrific birth defects and cancers.

And guess what? Cesium-137 levels are RISING throughout the world as we speak.

The U.S. Government already knows this but they can't tell the American people or there would be riots and mass panic. Europe knows, however.

 

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:08 | 1143970 Madhouse
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CALL THEM. LEAVE A MESSAGE. TELL THEM TO WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:19 | 1144003 Aristarchan
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Keep the Kimchi jugs covered up.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:23 | 1144014 DrRaolDuke
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With all u know now, the Chlorine-38, I 131 increasing, rad levels, etc., what's the pooch screw meter at? I mean is the world really fucked?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:48 | 1144093 Aristarchan
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Well, at this point, based on available data, probably not. To be honest, in an ongoing situation like this, it is too early to quantify it, and probably impossible to do so based on the data. A US politician says the NRC says a reactor shell has given up the ghost, then the NRC comes back and says, no..we did not say that. And, it might not even matter if the containment holds and a large release is prevented. I have seen no hard data that provides any evidence that this is anything really serious outside of  Japan. Could it get that way? potentially yes. Keep in mind also that the half-life of a radionuclide does not in itself equal the biological half-life. The real problem here is that we will likely not know its full impact until it is probably too late to matter. My own gut feel is that they will either get it under control (of sorts) or proceed to some kind of encapsulation plan.

I do not think that international experts, many who have families, kids...are going to downplay this thing to prevent an industry for taking a hit, especially if they think there will be an impact on their own country. Plus, many of them are not all that happy with the Japanese nuclear industry anyway, since they have regularly ignored or dismissed their recommendations for changes and upgrades. I know I would not do so. For instance, If I had hard data that suggested a real problem in the US, I would be screaming to high heaven....fuck the industry....I have a new grand-daughter, and I would do everything in my power to prevent her from suffering any possible damage. I am not seeing that - although I am not seeing it based on the data provided, and what my own experience tells me is reality. If anything changes my mind, I will be the first to get on ZH and admit I was wrong and start screaming.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:04 | 1144141 majia
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Internal emitters. I've looked at the following reports (sorry I did not keep the links but the titles below can be googled as I found them online) and am convinced that small children may be at risk from dairy produced from cows that eat contaminated feed in the US.

The problem is that we have no way of knowing how much contamination has made it to the US nor do we know how long it will persist.

The EPA has proven its incompetence and willingness to deceive too many times.

I am concerned about small children!


The health outcome of the Fukushima catastrophe

Initial analysis from risk model of the

European Committee on Radiation Risk ECRR

Chris Busby

AND

 

2010 Recommendations

of the European Committee

on Radiation Risk

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:17 | 1144186 Aristarchan
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I would have to research those links in order to give you any kind of valid information. As far as I know, the cow's milk you are going to get in the US is from US-based cows, eating US based feed. Now, these products are to some measurable degree, contaminated by leftovers from atmospheric nuclear tests, Chernobyl, and other events - even regular venting of nuclear plants. Will they be contaminated more by Fukushima? yes. Will it be significant to human health? at this point I do not think so. But, it is too early to tell. Pay attention to the data from US and European based sources, they might be tempted to lie if it was a reactor in their own country, but will probably not do so for a foreign one. In an age of the Internet, blogs and Wikileaks, it is not necessarily in their own interest to do so.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 08:46 | 1144719 lindacrabapple
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New official lie spotted several times in the ZH comments:

Some variation on "countries would be tempted to lie about a reactor in their own country, but not one in another country".

You can tell an official lie because it seems to "spontaneously generate" in several places at once, and is repeated almost verbatim.

Countries can, will, have, and are lying to protect NUCLEAR INDUSTRY worldwide. The truth is that most U.S. reactors are nearly identical to Fukushima. There is no safe way to store the spent fuel. Nuclear as an industry is totally unable to rise to any reasonable level of safety. Like an oil leak miles beneath the ocean, we have the technology to make the mess, but not to clean it up.

Now, can you imagine the outrage if people truly grasped the likelihood of nuclear disasters and their global scale?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:09 | 1144159 avonaltendorf
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Thank you, Ari, for hanging out with us, being a strong tripwire.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:46 | 1144025 RoRoTrader
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Tyler,

Got any historical data, or expert commentary to put the (50 odd and Red Wing) atmospheric tests from the Mojave into a context that brings Japan relative to today?

The A-Bomb mushroom clouds were being sold to Las Vegas tourists as 'a sight to be seen', usually after lunch, believe it or not.

Imagine seeing that in the blue Nevada sky 60 or 90 miles away.

Maybe this is why ZH and its constituents exist as we are all unknowing deformed mutants of R Oppenheimer.

 

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:54 | 1144107 Jim in MN
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Formally, the US would rather not know that information.

Informally, some tens of thousands of civilian fatalities.

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/fallout/

 

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 23:58 | 1144123 Aristarchan
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I was there during a lot of tests (underground), and yes, they were kind of casual about things. In fact, Jim, if you do a  survey of your backyard, you have a good chance of finding some materials left over from those tests - especially the atmospheric ones. Owing to all those years I spent in Vegas, I would bet you a crisp fiat that you would find a trace of Plutonium:)

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:10 | 1144166 Jim in MN
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Just for cesium-137, estimates are about 30 megacuries for all global atmospheric weapons tests vs. about 2.5 megacuries for Chernobyl.  But proximity does matter, even on a continental scale. 

I have seen maps of the estimated dose by US county from domestic tests, the Midwest is a nice rosy pink in those. 

While I am concerned about 'statistical cancer' or as they say stochastic health impacts in central Japan, I haven't seen anything yet that makes me fear for my family here.  We're a few bad turns away at least. 

BTW, I dug ditches to lay cable for one of the seismic test monitors near the CA-NV border in the 1980s.  Trenching through sand and rock over ridgelines is a real bitch :*P especially with picks and shovels.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:15 | 1144183 majia
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I cannot evaluate the expertise of this site but the posters are very technical and have direct access to Univ of Berkeley's radiology lab tests on Fukushima fallout:

http://www.idealist.ws/contaminationna.php

Does the EPA remind you of someone from America's past?  Read more here.  

April 5 - A milk sample collected on March 25 from Spokane, Washington, and analyzed by the EPA measured 0.77 picocuries of iodine-131 per liter (of milk).   This is per a PDF titled 'EPA RadNet Milk Results' dated April 4, 2011.

The EPA has ignored the fact that hotspots from rainouts have occurred throughout the atomic age and even now.  The EPA is missing these hotspots because their 30 station milk sampling network cannot work as long as there are over 3,000 inhabited counties in the continental U.S. 

For example, the EPA easily missed what a Berkeley lab found of Bay Area milk on March 25th, when an analysis suggested that iodine-131 in milk bought in a local store on March 25 measured 18.9 picoCuries per Liter - with a 7.29 pCi/L margin of error.  This is as much as 34 times higher than the April 4th posted results of the EPA's analysis of Spokane milk.  The thyroid dose to an infant from 1 liter of this Berkeley-area milk would be 0.26 millirems, or 260 microrems.

The EPA is still refusing to test milk and other samples for pure beta or pure alpha radionuclides, which are the most biologically significant hazards in the fallout.   

The EPA's April 4th posting list just four six analyses (four for Washington, two for Iowa).  

April 4 - On April 2nd, the U.S. EPA published its analyses of gamma-emitting radionuclides present in precipitation (collected rainwater, snow and sleet) in 15 U.S. cities during mid-March.  The EPA is still refusing to test any of the samples from its RADNET program for pure beta or alpha emitting particles, which pose the greatest internal hazard of the fallout from Fukushima.  The following data reproduce the EPA's highest values of detected iodine-131 in precipitation in their analyses; incidentally, they all were data from samples collected from RADNET stations on March 22nd (the samples were collected shortly following a precipitation event): 

* Boise, Idaho - 242 pCi/L of iodine-131
* Richmond, California - 138 pCi/L of iodine-131
* St. Paul, MN - 32.3 pCi/L of iodine-131

The only precipitation sample that contained detectable cesium 137 was from the Boise station - measured at 11.6 pCi/L.

It is curious that these values are significantly lower than those of a Berkeley academic lab, whose analysis of a 24-hour sample of rainwater on March 23rd in Berkeley, Calif.,  suggests that a 1 liter volume had an iodine-131 concentration of 542.7 picocuries [consuming one liter of this water would provide a radiation dose to the thyroid of an infant of 7.54 millirems]

Our advice is that the EPA should provide more background info (and/or hyperlinks) to explain sampling methodology and detection limits on its PDF files, which serve as 'stand-alone' documents and (most of the time) lack the hyperlink structure of a webpage....

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:35 | 1144229 espirit
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Good information. Keep repeating it in new articles as they appear on ZH. Sooner or later the govt has to own up to these findings.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:44 | 1144241 Aristarchan
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The only good thing about Cesium-137 is its biological half-life is only 70 days, and there is a medication that can be taken to flush it from the body....not saying that is good.

Welcome to the club. I was on the shot-design teams that designed the holes and the tunnels and placed the shots and instrumentation. I need to post of some of my pics for anyone who is interested here. But you know, Jim, even people like me who was a part of the shots, were never told exactly when they would happen, unless we were involved in the actual detonation, for me that was only three times. The rest of them I heard and felt while in Vegas. Back then we did not have real-time dosimeters, only after-the-fact. Things could get dicey at times. I know one time after a shot we went down to survey an area in a tank. We had Geiger counters with us, both in and outside the tank. As we got closer to the blast epicenter, the outside one was humming pretty fast, and the inside was going beyond my ability to count ticks. The Health Physicist with us kinda blanched, then told the driver to turn the tank around. When we got back, they took our dosimeters away from us to record our dosage...well, they came back and said they had collectively failed to record accurate readings. The health physicist raised all kinds of hell, but that went nowhere. They eventually estimated out exposure as less than 100 REMS. It makes you think.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 07:32 | 1144586 MSimon
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:13 | 1144165 espirit
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Jim in MN, bob_dabolina has a supposition that a spent fuel assembly may have been ejected through the roof of reactor #? and landed in the water just off the wharf. Please review the pics at the following link and post what you think.

Also, know anything about the power plant just 12 klicks south of Fukushima? TIA

http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2011/03/fukushima_dai-ichi_aerials.html

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:28 | 1144215 Jim in MN
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Those are great shots but the plantsite aerials that he posted in the previous thread showed the whole site more clearly esp. the water.  I thought that the shape of the object in the water is very close to that of the white structure/boxes on the other wharfs, so it might be a similar item dragged into the water by the tsunami.  But there is also an obvious pair of ejection tracks from the reactor across the turbine building, including torn off roof edges on the ocean side of the turbine building.  So something shot across there.  I just can't see what. 

FWIW there is 100 times more concrete and framing in those buildings than 'hot stuff'....so it's unlikely that any given bit of debris is, uh, relevant.  But some of it is. 

Just more stuff we shouldn't have to spend time wondering about.

There are two other plants in the 'affected areas'.  The closer one (F. Daini) to the south lost cooling but got it back.  The one farther north (Onagawa) was much closer to the epicenter and reported a fire and damage at the time.  Both are now very, very quiet.  It'd be good to see an independent evaluation of both.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:37 | 1144233 espirit
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Thanks Jim, keep us posted.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:53 | 1144256 Aristarchan
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Jim...fuel asemblies are pretty fragile. In fact, they are easily damaged during refuel operations. It is hard for me to see one being ejected from a hydrogen explosion while staying in one piece.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:28 | 1145400 joshbot
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Can you provide more details on this?  What are they made of?  What level of damage does easily damaged imply?  I'm trying to look into the issue so I appreciate your input.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:32 | 1144225 Ident 7777 economy
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Jim in MN, bob_dabolina has a supposition that a spent fuel assembly may have been ejected through the roof of reactor #? and landed in the water just off the wharf. 

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In a word, respectfully: no.

Look at the size ... about the size of one of the concrete wall sections that blew out of buildings #3 or 4 ... for the upteenth time ...

To think one of those 'assemblies' could withstand being 'blown' through one of those openings, having been impacted up against the concrete walls sections, and still exist in a readily identifiable rectilinear form?

Not conceivable.

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:58 | 1144270 Aristarchan
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The reactor buildings are only concrete half-way up, the rest, above that, is steel panelling. But, I think you are right that no fuel rod assembly would survive being blown up and into the ocean...not in one piece anyway.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 01:01 | 1144276 RoRoTrader
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Formally, the US would rather not know that information.

Maybe so, at least officially, but why not embrace and celebrate social retardation as a lifestyle for all, however it can be achived, Jim?!.......Wall St, the Senators, the House of Pigs, MSM KimKardasian'sBIGFuckingass, Dancing With Dimwit Stars and presidents, pms and Kadadfi all celebrate it, not to mention the FED.

I mean, if we are happy then we don't need money, right. Seems like a simple choice, radiation or not.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 01:16 | 1144308 Jim in MN
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DIY lobotomies, line forms in front of the TV.  I wish Ernie Kovacs was still here.

Or...vulcan neck pinch fanmade video action!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoa2wHW6cSk

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 02:54 | 1144400 Graha Manullang
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FUBAR

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 03:58 | 1144437 Broker NotBroke
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So when do we panic? Now? 4 weeks ago?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 04:11 | 1144445 SRSrocco
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Well, there goes Hyundai motors.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 05:20 | 1144486 damage
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Jesus. You guys are milking this worse than George Washington milked the gulf oil spill. The amount of radioactivity the Koreans will be exposed to is basically not even worth mentioning (the stuff in the purple colored areas).

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 07:27 | 1144575 MSimon
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Would that be for a one time exposure or for the rest of your life?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 06:06 | 1144515 lynn
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chips of plutonium are twinkling in every lung

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 07:18 | 1144561 squexx
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I live on the West Coast of Korea. People are starting to stock up on canned tuna and the like. I'll probably stock on some myself. Personally, I'm hoping to turn into the Hulk or something. It'll save lots of $$ in gym fees!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 07:27 | 1144570 MSimon
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Don't fall for the "very few deaths from Chernobyl" con.

I have ammunition: http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/04/lies-of-chernobyl.html

Lies Of Chernobyl

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 07:36 | 1144589 Hannibal
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Oh Yeah,.. "the air is perfectly save the breathe" (like ground zero).

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 08:30 | 1144687 tomster0126
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Everyone stop tripping out, just buy your potassium iodide and stock it in case radiation gets near, take your vitamins, and pray for the best, nothing is gonna happen in the states

www.forecastfortomorrow.com

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:15 | 1144823 Jim in MN
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Pressure on media intensifies: Kyodo

Japan seeks objective reporting of Fukushima nuclear crisis

TOKYO, April 7, Kyodo

Japan has been asking foreign media to objectively report on the evolving crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the Foreign Ministry said Thursday, as reports deemed sensationalist or based on incorrect information have fanned concern and led to import restrictions on Japanese products.

State Foreign Secretary Chiaki Takahashi told a press conference that Tokyo believes some reports by foreign media on the Fukushima crisis were ''excessive'' and has urged the organizations responsible for the stories through Japanese diplomatic missions abroad to correctly and objectively disseminate information.

Ministry officials said some foreign media, including tabloids, emphasized the danger of radioactive materials leaking from the Fukushima nuclear plant by focusing on extreme projections, while erroneously reporting that the plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. has hired homeless people to tackle the ongoing crisis.

Other examples include a report that five nuclear workers had died at the site, giving the impression that they perished due to high-level radiation amid efforts to bring the crisis under control.

In fact, the reported casualties consisted of workers who died shortly after the quake and tsunami hit the plant and those who were missing in Ibaraki Prefecture, south of Fukushima, the officials said.

==Kyodo

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:28 | 1145646 davepowers
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he must be talking about CNBC, because shortly before the news that two workers (not homeless, no doubt) were burned by water broke, CNBC first reported it as they were DEAD.

You just can't trust anything from CNBC. Go get em Japanese government lecturer on objectivity.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:31 | 1144860 PulauHantu29
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Better cloud then expected. Very Bullish for the SK stock markets. All positive news .....

...say the Wall Street Spinmeisters.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:45 | 1144870 Jim in MN
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Japanese online journalists venture inside the evacuation zone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHWvbisFg0I

Covered in Wall Street Journal Japanese blog

http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2011/04/07/inside-fukushima-evacuation-zone-cows-dogs-and-geiger-beeps/

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:02 | 1144927 majia
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Arnie Gunderson's latest video, expressing concern that TEPCO has been equivocating and/or outright lying.

Same goes for the NRC and a report produced by the French nuclear energy agency AREVA.

Gunderson says that the NRC privately fears the building's weight might be a problem in an earthquake, leading to re-criticality.

The NRC also fears buildup of hydrogen again, leading to another explosion.

Additionally, Gunderson says the NRC is concerned about plutonium ejected several miles from reactor.

Gunderson claims the AREVA report has fallacies in it but the main take away point is that the person who presented the report finds this to be one of the greatest disasters in modern time

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:26 | 1145032 primalplasma
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I have a feeling that most of our future mutants with super powers will come from North Korea, not South Korea. (barring North Japan, of course)

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:51 | 1145126 JustinJapan
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My 1st post.

Fairly big 6.0 quake in Miyagi and Sendai right now.

 

Official numbers just came in. 7.4 quake. 6.0 at Fukushima. Not a peep about Fukushima but we just might find out tonight just how much H2 there is in those units. 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:53 | 1145180 Jim in MN
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7.4 quake in Miyagi being reported on the Japanese tickers, buildings swayed in Tokyo, tsunami alert as of 15 minutes ago

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:55 | 1145208 Jim in MN
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Japan NHK TV reporting Fukushima Daiichi workers ordered to move away from coast. 

TEPCO: Daini reports no anomaly at central control room.  No contact with Daiichi team.

Tsunami alerts for at least five seperate nuclear plants.

Strong tremor for minute to minute and a half.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:32 | 1145420 wally_12
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First, I would like to thank all of the really intelligent blogers on ZH (excluding IQ-45).

Jim from MN has provided invaluable info on radiation levels.

I dug up some antique studies from U.S. Department of Commerce, National Bureau of Standards Handbook 59 “Permissible Dose from External Sources of Ionizing Radiation”. They describe the “Safe” LD50 level as having a 4 sigma deviation around the mean. This means that 2 sigma  less dosage will have some measurable impact on a a given population and 2 sigma greater dosage will have no impact on a given population. Also, genetic impact (cancer) was detected  in small dose quantity and not totally dependent upon time exposure of radiation. i.e. a small dose of radiation exposure can cause genetic mutations. Obviously, radiation damage is a complicated science and not easily explained on the Nightly MSM. Brian Williams and NBC News brought out German accent expert last night to reassure me that the California coast is safe. “It will take years to reach the coast”

On a different subject, has anyone noticed the cylindrical object partially buried in debris adjacent to reactor No.3 in the high res photos? It is fairly large. A huge object was seen falling during the “Hydrogen” explosion of reactor No. 3. Could it be reactor No. 3? Photo number 3 of 12 to the right of building.

http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2011/03/fukushima_dai-ichi_aeri...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:33 | 1145438 americanspirit
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Interesting that this cloud as well as several others in the past few weeks have all passed directly over the main pearl oyster beds in Southern Japan. Oysters are especially vulnerable to even low levels of radioactivity. Better buy that strand of Mikimoto pearls now - there aren't going to be any for, oh, say a few hundred years or so.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:14 | 1146101 PulauHantu29
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I read old people in SK can "feel it in their bunions" that radiation coming...as Shangahiese start packing to inner China....

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