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Radioactive Iodine In Fukushima Seawater Highest Ever, Reactors 5 And 6 Now Leaking Too

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And while futures rise as the market anticipates the latest central bank intervention to paper over the global financial insolvency, the radioactive fallout from Fukushima continues to worsen as Iodine 131 levels in the seawater hits the highest since the start of the crisis. "According to Tokyo Electric Power Co., radioactive iodine-131 146.9
times higher than the legal concentration limit was detected Wednesday
morning in a seawater sample taken around 330 meters south of the plant
,
near the drain outlets of its troubled four reactors. The level briefly fell to 29.8 times the limit on Tuesday morning from
126.7 times on Monday, but rose to its highest so far in the survey
begun this week apparently due to rain and water sprayed at spent fuel
pools from outside that caused radioactive materials to seep into the
sea, it said." What's far worse, reactors 5 and 6 which have been supposed to be ok, are also leaking: "The firm also said it found both iodine-131 and cesium-137 in a sample
taken from near the drain outlets of the plant's No. 5 and No. 6
reactors that stabilized Sunday in so-called ''cold shutdown
.'' The bad news is not only in immediate proximity to Fukushima: "Iodine-131 19.1 times higher than the limit was also detected Wednesday
afternoon in a sample taken some 16 kilometers south of the nuclear
power station, up from 16.7 times on Tuesday."

From Kyodo:

Abnormally high levels of radioactive materials were again detected in the sea near the crisis-hit nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture, its operator said Thursday, warning the radiation levels in seawater may keep rising.

According to Tokyo Electric Power Co., radioactive iodine-131 146.9 times higher than the legal concentration limit was detected Wednesday morning in a seawater sample taken around 330 meters south of the plant, near the drain outlets of its troubled four reactors.

The level briefly fell to 29.8 times the limit on Tuesday morning from 126.7 times on Monday, but rose to its highest so far in the survey begun this week apparently due to rain and water sprayed at spent fuel pools from outside that caused radioactive materials to seep into the sea, it said.

The firm also said it found both iodine-131 and cesium-137 in a sample taken from near the drain outlets of the plant's No. 5 and No. 6 reactors that stabilized Sunday in so-called ''cold shutdown.''

Iodine-131 19.1 times higher than the limit was also detected Wednesday afternoon in a sample taken some 16 kilometers south of the nuclear power station, up from 16.7 times on Tuesday.

The current radiation levels in seawater do not pose an immediate risk to human health, an official of TEPCO told reporters, but added, ''We have to continue to monitor whether (radioactive materials in seawater) will keep rising.''

 


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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 08:59 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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This must be good for stocks. Means rebuilding or something.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Josh Randall
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Bullish for NFLX for sure, all those poor souls stuck in their homes

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Price line too. All-time highs! People don't mind paying more for everything.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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and if that isn't just the crowning turd in the water pipe...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Arnie Gundersen, Nuclear Engineer with Fairewinds Associates, Inc, with an excellent video explaining the travesty that is now unfolding at Fukushima, where dispersion stacks are not working, where 70% of the fuel has failed, 6 to 8 cores in 3 Reactors have failed/melted, breach has taken place at Reactor 2, radioactive gases are experiencing 'ground level release' (much higher concentrations than what TEPCO or Japanese Government has reported), and where 'building wake effect' is taking place, significant contamination was taking place as far away as 40km as of yesterday (1,600x background radiation [noble gas clouds emitting gamma rays] - with more to come and further out, and 0.9 surface contamination as measured in MegaBequerels per square meter - HOTTER THAN HOT SPOTS AT CHERNOBYL.

 

Video:

At 40km from Fukushima Daiichi, already higher surface contamination than hot spots at Chernobyl, and radius growing

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:14 | Link to Comment bankrupt JPM bu...
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My heart goes out to the men on the ground there that have sacrificed their lives.  The is no greater way of saying thank you.

Of course if it was me, I would round up the government, and make them do it with no suits on.

www.silvergoldsilver.blogspot.com

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:29 | Link to Comment herewego...
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BTFD on Areva and Electricite de France. India and China will build their plants anyway and will need folks to help them build them. Especially as nucular power is a sign of being a delveloped country that understands the cutting edge.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/23/tokyo_tapwater_fukushima/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/22/fukushima_tuesday_2/

Or donate small % of your gold/silver winnings to Japanese Red Cross.

(Note, nothing in this post is sarcasm.)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:44 | Link to Comment prophet
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China's primary selection was the Toshiba design, yes? 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment Commander Cody
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Combination of Areva, Westinghouse (Toshiba) and indigenous.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:12 | Link to Comment Wu Qi Ming
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While that may be the primary choice the Power station in Lianyungang is of Russian design. http://www.nti.org/db/nisprofs/russia/exports/rusprc/react.htm

I was invited on a tour of this facility in 2009 but, on the day, it was cancelled due to an "accident". Good luck in finding out what that meant.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:33 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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Someone spilled a Pepsi on the control board.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:41 | Link to Comment Wu Qi Ming
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Err, correction it was 2008. Man the years are melding together now. I did find some info on it though: http://en.rian.ru/world/20080919/116950045.html

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:03 | Link to Comment herewego...
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Yes. China has put a pause on nuclear plant building while it re-checks safety arrangements. It could be that things will continue as they should.

If it was up to the man on the street in China, they'd kick Japan while it was down and give the contract to those impressive Frenchies that are bombing the hell out of somewhere.

Disclosure: no position and a drop of 5.4% or 8% in a French company isn't going to get me to figure out how to buy stocks in them. 20%, maybe.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:31 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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When it's really high tech, it's called the Bleeding Edge...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment anonnn
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ZH readers not know what corium is?

If you want the straight skinny on latest generation nuc powr plants, have a look at AREVA' current offerrings and specs:

Corium explained near end of these specs:

http://www.areva-np.com/us/liblocal/docs/EPR/EPR_Brochure_09.pdf

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:00 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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market is in tune out mode with Japan now.   Reason is bankers can't cover up nuclear meltdowns as easy as spreadsheet losses.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:08 | Link to Comment Mae Kadoodie
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tune out Japan, check.

tune out MENA, check.

tune out EU, check.

tune out housing market, check.

tune out high unemployment, check.

tune out $5 gas, check.

tune out rising commodity prices & inflation, check.

tune out debt ceiling debate, check.

am i missing anything?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:11 | Link to Comment John Law Lives
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tune out lowest monthly new home sales data on record (February), check.

tune out plunge in durable goods orders, check.

tune out any lousy macroeconomic data, check.

tune out any bad news, check.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Yup.

I'm outta here. :>)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:39 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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to where?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:51 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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@ John and previous posters

the market is in tune out mode because the market knows what happened. the story is done. no need for all these articles. let me explain. the genuises at ge that designed the mark1 nuke plant (there are 23 of 'em in the usa) thought it was a good idea to store the spent, radioactive, fuel rods, inside of, and on top of, the nuke reactors. those reactors are now blowed up along with the spent fuel rods. get it?!

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:14 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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hmm....sounds bullish...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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So is the is the top of the bubble?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Tune out earnings misses and warnings. Best buy rallying on missed results and lower guidance.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:16 | Link to Comment taraxias
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tune out all of the above - check

TUNE IN MONEY PRINTING - check

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:39 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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sounds bullish...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:18 | Link to Comment obelisks
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yes - tune out the enormous oil slick still sitting at the bottom of the sea

 from the BP disaster

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:33 | Link to Comment They_Live
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Tune out reality.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:01 | Link to Comment sangell
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So your fish is already grilled when you catch it.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:38 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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Secretly sushi preparers welcome high levels of radiation takes care of the worm problems often associated with raw fish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQhaO1pWztw

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:01 | Link to Comment TexDenim
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The dilution factor in the ocean is pretty big. I don't think this is going to be a problem.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:01 | Link to Comment sangell
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Its already a problem at the Tokyo fish market. Sales off 70%

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:04 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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exactly.  "it's the fear factor."  poo-pooohing "things nuclear" as WE are doing (???is it our crisis???) strikes me as precisely the wrong response.  on that other hand "it is what we do...AND WE DO IT WELL."

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Kina
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Not much to do with bloggers....and everything to do with the Japanese knowing they cannot trust information coming from government and industry. If the govt had a history of honesty and believability there would be much less fear.

 

Also you will see a lot of the 'better safe than sorry' mentality mixed with distrust of government assurances. AND if it were my kids in Tokyo I would be telling them better to be safe than sorry.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:19 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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It's also the, "tsunami washed my fishing boat a mile in land and it's now sitting on what used to be a karaoke bar" factor.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment herewego...
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and we have a winner.

Why is it that some zh'ers think every negative story connected with Japan is down to the the nuke power plant, when they ust had a 9.0 earthquake and a 12m tsunami?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:46 | Link to Comment Bleeping Fed
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Because nuclear meltdowns and radioactive pollution are a little harder to clean up than earthquake/tsunami damage.  Multiply that difficulty with distrust in TEPCO/Jap. government growing daily...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:54 | Link to Comment sangell
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Oh come now. I seriously doubt the bulk of the Japanese fishing fleet was washed inland. We are only talking three prefectures where the tsunami was intense. I imagine 90% of Japanese fishing boats are just fine.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:17 | Link to Comment herewego...
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2 minutes on Google would suggest differently:

Major fishing ports on the Pacific coast of Honsh? include,HachinoheKesennuma, and Ishinomaki along the Sanriku coast

Japan domestic fishing industy:http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticledetail.aspx?id=9614

Japan imports:http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticledetail.aspx?id=9614

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:17 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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Three Eyed, Two Tailed Tuna will be the new Sushi Delicacy.

 

Eat while pregnant and you might give birth to something just as exciting and exotic.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:45 | Link to Comment 10kby2k
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When is breeding season?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:44 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Think positive man, at least it won't sink...

and you haven't got far to go for a beer.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:05 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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dilution factor?

explain mercury in my tuna and why there wont be any radiation in that same tuna at a future point

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:31 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Completely different chemical elements with completely different physiological effects. To start Iodine-131 decays rather quickly while mercury is stable. But don't let it stop your despair...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:54 | Link to Comment FilthyLucre
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>To start Iodine-131 decays rather quickly

As do Cs137, Sr90, etc. Oh thats right they don't and where there's I131, Cs137 is sure to follow. BTW, what isotopes do you get when you pump sea water into a reactor? See thats the thing with spin. What was the question again? Radiation in seafood not the half life of I131. Do Cs137 and Sr90 lodge in the organs, muscles and skeletons of fish? Whats the story with predator species like tuna?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:58 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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If it is a dose large enough to kill an adult fish, you won't eat it because you don't eat dead fish floating in the water of washed up on the shore. You are safe.

If it is a dose large enough to kill a young fish, see above and it won't grow to be an adult fish and reproduce. You won't eat fish because there are few left for a while; you are safe but may go hungry.

Predator fish may or may not accumulate enough to kill itself. See above, and if the dose is not enough to kill a large fish like tuna it is unlikely to be enough to kill you, who will only eat a small piece of it at a time.

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Unless you are in the contamination area where you may or may not suffer any consequence, you are in real trouble, since the imaginary contamination *will* fry your brain beyond repair.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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If it doesn't kill you right away, you'll be fine.

You might get cancer, or develop an autoimmune diseaase.

Your babies may be born with interesting birth defects.

 

But these things aren't instant death. So it's ok.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:29 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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It is good to be scared isn't it? Even if it is imaginary, suddenly all other problems, in real life, fade away.

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Being exposed to radioactivity may lead or not to certain diseases... But you also might get cancer anyway, wherever you are. Babies may be "defective" even if the mother is perfectly healthy and safe.

But you can count on *any* unknown case of cancer or yet to be found "defective" baby in the womb in that area that, as a matter of fact, *will* we attributed to this disaster. The preexisting ones; the statistics must look good, you know.

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I'm very cynical in this post. Count all the collective man-hours wasted in these many threads, reading and writing disinformation or countering it, and you'll realize a lot of "human lives equivalent" have died already.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:03 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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good news is, on a long enuf timeline, this wont even matter

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:10 | Link to Comment plocequ1
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Infinity Hedge. On a short enough timeline, The survival rate rises to infinity. What do ya think? Catchy, isnt it?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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True we will all be gone and some other creature will evolve to print fiat and pump the markets.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:37 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:45 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Fiat Panda maybe?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:03 | Link to Comment WALLST8MY8BALL
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With enough mutations  we may actually get Chicken of the Sea!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:10 | Link to Comment gwar5
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LOL!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Possible Impact
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LOL, good one!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:21 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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Oh my fucking God, real talking Charlie Tuna! The screams from thousands of Charlies as the net is reeled in and they are left gasping for breath.

Then again the Japanese beat thousands of Dolphins to death every year. They won't care.

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:06 | Link to Comment pods
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I remember watching a video of the yearly dolphin massacre once.  That is something that just doesn't leave you.

pods

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:24 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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True Pods, the vicious ruthlessness of the Japanese towards the animal kingdom in genral is quite a tell. nanking was no random accident. Appreciate their current pain, but to glorify themis silly.

ORI

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:20 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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They killed Charlie!

Those bastards!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:40 | Link to Comment WALLST8MY8BALL
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Sorry Charlie

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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LMAO

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:58 | Link to Comment franzpick
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The next big Pacific catch:  New-Finned Tuna

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Fortunes Favor
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Bad news is good news for commodity and equity markets.


Understanding the Government Manipulated Credit Market Evolution @ http://rosenthalcapital.com/blog/2011/03/understanding-the-government-manipulated-credit-market-evolution/

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:11 | Link to Comment plocequ1
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Deleted. Wrong post

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:08 | Link to Comment PlanForTheWorst...
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Can't eat fish or crab from the pacific, can't eat shrimp from the gulf, no seafood for me for along time...

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:25 | Link to Comment Theta_Burn
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I totally agree on eating nothing from the gulf

You still have time on the Pacific

Never thought I'd say it, but glad I'm on the Jersey shore....with Bass season ready to kick off )

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:23 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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PlanForTheWorst...

"Can't eat fish or crab from the pacific, can't eat shrimp from the gulf, no seafood for me for along time..."

Thank god for those Asian farmed ones.

Funny how they look better than the Oil and chemical riddled ones or the radioactive ones.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:39 | Link to Comment Natasha
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You may feel differently about Asian farmed fish after viewing this report:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40198123/ns/today-today_health/

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:22 | Link to Comment franzpick
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My 6 cases of canned Pre-Tepco-tuna and salmon are safe, and stale-dated 2014 to 2016, but the glint off the cans is starting to resemble silver rounds.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:08 | Link to Comment 99er
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Frank Redner
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long term effects on tokyo and supplies? any serious analysis?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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How can there be a serious analysis when there is no conclusion - yet - to Fukushima? At this point all there can be are guesstimates and even those would be based upon "official" disclosures by the Japanese government and TEPCO.

Might as well find a monkey and throw darts at the board. Any trolls wanna step up?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment Frank Redner
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You are right and im only checking if i miss something here.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:09 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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The slow motion train wreck continues.  So what is plan B? 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Print more money, tell people radiation has health benefits

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment They_Live
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Plan B is carry out Plan A faster.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:12 | Link to Comment avonaltendorf
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FT Alphaville this morning:

In head offices throughout Tokyo, there are tales of growing resentments within firms where mainly expat staff were seen to have fled while Japanese staff stayed behind.

Even within the foreign community, there are divisions, including these comments from an executive with a big European asset manager who was visiting Tokyo this week:

“Those of us who’ve had a long relationship with Japan feel strongly that foreign managers were foolish to desert their Japanese colleagues. It won’t be forgotten.”

Of course, many big companies offered both foreign and local staff the option to evacuate to cities west of Tokyo, although the offers of paid-for flights out with families to destinations such as Singapore and further afied was limited largely to expats.

The exodus of “gaijin“, the colloquial Japanese term for foreigners, was further fuelled by advisories from nearly all major embassies to their nationals to leave Tokyo, with the US, UK, France, Italy and others even arranging charter flights to help people leave amid huge demand for commercial flights out. The stampede out prompted some to label the departing foreigners “flyjin“, a term that now seems to have stuck.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:25 | Link to Comment Natasha
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Perhaps those left behind should direct some of their anger at the entity that paid for and obviously encouraged all those long distance, cushy evacuations.

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:37 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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The exodus of “gaijin“,

Maybe the "gaijan" aren't stupid enough to stay and be irradiated.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Greater Fool
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The ones who did stay shall forever be known as "glowjin."

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment Frank Redner
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- It won’t be forgotten

The castle is attacked and the rats are leaving.... but the heros defend the castle and stay strong... It wont be forgotten....

Its making me really angry how you can even compare this crap with avoiding nuclear fallout?

This concept simply doesnt apply here and people need to get their heads examined! Where is the logic?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:48 | Link to Comment herewego...
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Asians, in general, have great respect for community. They have great respect for diligence and stoisism. I would have done the same, and left. I'm certain I'm safe 2,000km away, but less sure about 200km.  But the 'flyjin' will not be forgotten, and when this is over the Japanese will find it even harder to work with the strange foriegners. Those that left should begin planning their new careers now; they can go back to Japan but, unless they are fluent, they should probably choose a different company or office.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:42 | Link to Comment absolutefury
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It's nonsense, of course. The majority of western gaijin (at least) did not evacuate Tokyo.

If the situation were reversed and the Japanese Government advised Japanese expats to leave or consider leaving a European or Asian country facing the same situation, a similar proportion of them would leave, or at the very least send their families away.

There were even some people on Japanese TV saying that foreigners were making the supermarket shortages in the first few days after the earthquake worse - you can find some dumb people willing to say dumb things anywhere.

 

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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"What do you care, what other people think." - richard Feyman

Those that are angry now, about being abandoned, may later be evacuated with a life shortened by radiation poisoning.

 

Its seems to me that a prudent individual, that can leave, should do so. Staying our of pride is taking a fool's chance.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:11 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Wow. Just getting worse for those poor people over there.

Hope they don't have to abandon 20 mile radius x 50+ years.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Racer
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Futures up because the Fed will print lots of money to dump on it and seal it

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Sparrowhawk
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Thank you very much for keeping us updated on this awful situation.  No better coverage than here!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:19 | Link to Comment miker
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The ocean giveth and taketh away.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:27 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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miker

Poseidon will be coming for your ass. Give credit where credit is due or the Gods become angry, very angry. Jealous vain fucks that they are.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:43 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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will golden shellbacks be spared ?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:30 | Link to Comment FranSix
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On the one hand, it could be that this plant leaks this amount of radiation in cold shutdown as a matter of course.  On the other hand, control rod mechanisms meant to insert control rods into the cores did not function as they should an only partially inserted rods.

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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:16 | Link to Comment Contra_Man
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...and US EPA radiation tracking site https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do has been selectively "re-done" overnight to look more modern one might think - no more 50% offline monitoring flags (white and baby blue) to stare endlessly at anymore.   Anyone see ANY official readings in Florida over the last 5 days - until yesterday, project backdating made everything now seem normal then?  Now like the market charts, it's all seemingly Fine Line Art.  Not including "one-chirp" a.o.k. Gmen bloggers.

Great (sarc.) new graphics to depict "washed" homeland radiation data though a whole new website design just last night.  Co-incidence?  Just sayin'...   Who to Trust?

_________________________________________________________________________________

EPA's RadNet Air Monitoring Data

Last updated on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 at 6:46:51 PM.

EPAs nationwide radiation monitoring system, RadNet, continuously monitors the nations air and regularly monitors drinking water, milk and precipitation for environmental radiation. The RadNet system consists of both fixed and deployable monitors. To see data from an individual monitor click on the monitor in that state. We also provide a Daily Data Summary and more information about EPA's Air Monitoring Data. You can also view monitors by state below.

Updates on EPA's Monitoring Efforts | Radiation Protection | US EPA

http://contramanfund.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/20110321_fuku_xenon-sim...

http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-lockport-bg.html

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:43 | Link to Comment WTFisThat
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Well this is all good and needed that we have government sources for the radiation data but as history teach us THEY like to cook the books sometimes and thats why you should also consider data from independent sources and then combine both of them to get the picture.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment majia
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I am furious that they took the data off the net and am calling the useless entity right now to complain! Please post if anyone finds a new link to the area where cities are listed, allowing you to click to see their radiation levels.

Left a message: EPA has failed in the area of transparency--A failure I will have to educate my students on today... (of course, they've failed in a whole lot more areas than that...)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 16:32 | Link to Comment WTFisThat
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Well, there you go (there are probably other sources) Japan Radiation data:

http://www.aspnic.com/rad/blog/files/category-fukushima-nuclear-plant.html

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:39 | Link to Comment Fearless Rick
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How long are we going to hear this crap:

radiation levels in seawater do not pose an immediate risk to human health, 

 

before we realize that it WILL have a significant risk over time, as in the food we eat and the water we drink, bathe in, irrigate (and, added bonus, irradiate) crops with, and generally finds its way into everything we see, feel, touch, consume.

I've known for a long time that 97% of the people on this planet are fucking morons, but when will the day come that 100% of everything is contaminated with nuclear detritus? I was planning to grow my own vegetables this year, but now I wonder if it will even be worth it. The longer they take to fix this shit, the better the chance that my soil, my groundwater and eventually my crops will be unsuitable for human consumption.

Nothing suitable to eat, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Fuck the future, the present is beginning to look pretty fucking bleak.

Might as well starting drinking at breakfast. When the market opens higher for the 999th consecutive day, I can just puke my infected guts out all over images of that fat slob Mark Haines.

Doesn't really give one much confidence in anything.

This sucks the really, really big one. Anybody who pays taxes this year is an idiot. We ought to have the capitol surrounded, demanding all the politicians resign en masse. Instead, we are checking our NCAA pools to see if we'll win $150 in the office pool.

I'm more than a little bit disgusted.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment j0nx
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Nicely said my friend yet we all just sit around with our dicks in our hands and complain instead. Fear of what they will do to you if you become a subversive is a very powerful deterrent.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Trying to Understand
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Almost all of us are "disgusted" and angry, or we wouldn't be here and at other sites trying to gleen information.  You are not alone.

I don't know where you are located, and don't care.  But if you are not in Japan, right now you can get plastic and cover your garden area to keep any possible particulates out of/off of "that soil" I have been told.  Do be careful removing that plastic...  Unless you are in Japan, your ground water should not be affected, but if the toxic fallout is sufficent enough, the surface water may be, should the fallout become substancially more toxic.  So far, in the US, fallout has not been sufficent enough to affect ground water or surface water no matter what country's data you review, nor has there been sufficent particulate fallout to affect our soil at this point - no matter who's data you review.

That is the only short term suggestion I have seen at this point.  If someone has better or different ideas I would suspect we are open to suggestions...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Fearless Rick
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Thanks to both who commented on my comment.

I understand that radiation levels are not serious, and I am in the Northeast - currently my land is blanked with a 3 inch layer of snow, hopefully not too toxic, which will melt into the soil.

Surely covering the ground is a good idea. It has to be turned and mulched as well before planting. I was planning on building a clear plastic "tent" like a greenhouse, but the issue remains of watering, with either rainwater (fouled?) or municipal supplies (after proper aeration). Both will become contaninated at some point. Guess I'll have to trust the cleansing power of nature over the willful destruction of the planet by humans and allow the rain water to do it's work.

After all, if I can't eat plants grown in my own back yard, how can I expect anything I buy from grocery stores to be any better.

I'm glad I'm 57 years old. I may not have another 20 years left, but I was hoping to have at least 10 more good ones. If I were a younger man, say in my 20s or 30s, I'd be more inclined to make radical moves. As it is, I am pretty radical - that, according to my douche-bag, staus quo, retirement-fund-happy friends. As such, I have my silver, my land, my home, my bullets. Those aren't adequate protection against radiation, so I suppose comfort must be taken in the form of "we're all gonna die, so, what."

Uruguay is looking more and more appealing.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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The fools in Japan could have extended the seawall (around the Fukushima plant) and filled it in with concrete creating a sealed holding pond for all the radioactive debris leaving the plants.  Likewise they could have moved an oil tanker offshore and extended hoses to all the drains to accept all the radioactive runoff.  To allow the cascade of radioactive materials into the open ocean is criminal.  Why don't they call in someone who knows how to think big and act big?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:05 | Link to Comment Kina
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Yes as envisaged earlier Salt Build up could be a problem...

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/world/asia/24nuclear.html?_r=1&hpw

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:08 | Link to Comment OMG
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At least the Tap water is safe to drink.......Phew!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/24/japan.nuclear.disaster/index.html?hpt=C1

safe for babies too

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:10 | Link to Comment FranSix
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Documentary film on Japanese nuclear workers, fast breeder reactor, accidents:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4411946789896689299#

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:19 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank Zero Hedge for their dilligent work of bringing the news to us and also to say that the term "bitchez" somehow never gets old.

 

Donation on its way.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:21 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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You can buy glow in the dark fish on ebay...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:22 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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How about working up a proposal for a Global Reactor Integrated Entombment Facility, which would have already done the entombment engineering, cost and supply chain analysis for all reactors worldwide, identified critical bottlenecks in entombment supply chains/logistics, and assessed the adequacy of emergency management procedures including evacuations and refugee support?

If we had such an asset we would know a lot more and probably be saving lives, avoiding stress and panic, and who knows maybe even saving money.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:37 | Link to Comment herewego...
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+1, sensible to plan ahead more.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment willien1derland
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Well done Jim - GRIEF - can we also include a full time staff to monitor the site after it is entombed - I think we could include several government groups from Washington DC who could work from the entombed facility - in this way they can be repurposed as a US Outsourced group & will continue not be influenced by reality -

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Green shoots.

Ginormous, mutated, brightly glowing, flourescent green shoots...

...floating off Japan's coast.

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Contra_Man
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A Global Radioactive Emergency Response Team is a Terrible Idea... (sarc.) that might stop the radiation from leaking all over the northern hemisphere for months... how would the C.B.O. be able to one day print there was a projected "budgetary surplus" in entitlement spending in 2017-2025 due to reduced life expectancy in the advanced world for old age security checks and health care costs. 

  But let's just wait a month, or two... till we get around to doing something about it, shall we?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:49 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:21 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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Great Chart +10

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Contra_Man
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Charts Don't Lie - Gmen Do

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Colonel Sun
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How big is the Pacific Ocean?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:39 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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It's as big as your artistic license to trivialize the consequences, as you probably did with mercury, as well, with frequent fish and sushi eaters now getting (literally) mercury poisoning.

But the ocean is huge, and surely mercury will be diluted to next to nothingness, you surely said...

And unlike with mercury, the radiation is going into the fresh water aquifers, and that ground water is traveling a great distance, even not counting rain, snow and air.

But I'm sure the fact that you can't even locate bottled water in Japan right now, and that even the government warned that radiation levels are excessive in tap water, means that anyone who claims there are serious and growing radiation hazards is just pessimistic.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Colonel Sun
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WNN | All clear on [Tokyo] tap water

 

http://goo.gl/nwilg

 


Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:23 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Yes, I'm sure you get all your talking points from the nuclear industry, dumbass:

 

The WNN service is supported administratively and with technical advice by the World Nuclear Association and is based within its London Secretariat. It draws on WNA's global network of contacts in industry, academia, research institutes and intergovernmental agencies that includes key personnel in enterprises that account for virtually all of the world's uranium mining, nuclear fuel manufacture, equipment production and nuclear power generation.

 

-okay, got it, but who is the World Nuclear Association?


The World Nuclear Association (WNA), formerly the Uranium Institute, is an international organization that promotes nuclear power and supports the many companies that comprise the global nuclear industry. Its members come from all parts of the nuclear fuel cycle, including uranium mining, uranium conversion, uranium enrichment, nuclear fuel fabrication, plant manufacture, transport, and the disposition of used nuclear fuel as well as electricity generation itself [1].

Together, WNA members are responsible for 95% of the world's nuclear power outside of the U.S. [2] as well as the vast majority of world uranium, conversion and enrichment production.[3]

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Colonel Sun
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Well, I'd rather get my info from people who actually know what they are talking about than the pure FUD at ZH and associated completely uninformed histrionic comments.

 

WNN gets part of their info from Kyodo News:

 

Japan hit by radiation-tainted water, but Tokyo conditions improve

 

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/80857.html

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Riiiiight, because the main stream media, never lies, and is more credible than the nuclear power industry, who you had previously relied on.

Arnie Gundersen, Nuclear Engineer with Fairewinds Associates, Inc, with an excellent video explaining the travesty that is now unfolding at Fukushima, where dispersion stacks are not working, where 70% of the fuel has failed, 6 to 8 cores in 3 Reactors have failed/melted, breach has taken place at Reactor 2, radioactive gases are experiencing 'ground level release' (much higher concentrations than what TEPCO or Japanese Government has reported), and where 'building wake effect' is taking place, significant contamination was taking place as far away as 40km as of yesterday (1,600x background radiation [noble gas clouds emitting gamma rays] - with more to come and further out, and 0.9 surface contamination as measured in MegaBequerels per square meter - HOTTER THAN HOT SPOTS AT CHERNOBYL.

 

Video:

At 40km from Fukushima Daiichi, already higher surface contamination than hot spots at Chernobyl, and radius growing

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Colonel Sun
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He can tell all this just from looking at photos? As opposed to on-site measurements?

What a crank.

 

Okay, you're all going to die from radiation poisoning. 

 

First by air, then by sea.

 

Deal with it.

 

Japan in the meantime will clean up and get on with it's life as the world's most advanced industrial nation.

 

 

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