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Rand Paul Reintroduces Audit The Fed Bill, DeMint And Vitter Co-Sponsors

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If there is one thing that the one-time GAO audit of the Fed disclosed, is how woefully insufficient the extremely superficial data discovery was. Another thing uncovered was just how needed this disclosure was: it provided extended material into how the Fed subsidizes banks (both domestic and international) on an ongoing basis, not to mention substantial number crunching for the blogosphere. Either way, if Bernanke was hoping that the Frank-Dodd bill would take care of the Fed opacity, pardon, transparency issue in perpetuity, he may be disappointed: Ron's son, Rand, has just announced he is introducing legislation to, well, Audit The Fed, precisely along the lines of what his father did previously and generated massive support from everyone in Congress. Once again Ben Bernanke is about to become a major thorn on the side of the political puppetry.

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Senator Rand Paul introduced legislation allowing for a full audit of the Federal Reserve. This legislation is a Senate version of similar legislation long-championed by and introduced this session in the House of Representatives by his father, Congressman Ron Paul of Texas. Co-sponsoring the “Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2011” (S. 202), are Senators Jim DeMint of South Carolina and David Vitter of Louisiana.

“We must take a critical look at the Fed’s monetary policy decisions, discount window operations, and a host of other things, with a real audit – and not just pay lip-service to the idea of an audit,” Sen. Paul said today. “At a time when we're seeing great volatility in small Euro-zone economies like Greece, Portugal, and Ireland, it is more crucial than ever that we have real transparency at our own central bank.“

The bill will eliminate the current audit restrictions placed on the Government Accountability Office (GAO) and mandate a complete audit of the Federal Reserve to be completed by a firm deadline, finally delivering answers to the American people about how their money is being spent by Washington.


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Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:25 | 907533 Xedus129
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Lets count the tungsten!

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:30 | 907550 Turd Ferguson
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There you go! How about an "Audit Fort Knox" bill, instead?

At any rate, if anyone is wondering how things are working out in the bottom-calling business, feel free to click here:

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:37 | 907573 Spalding_Smailes
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Bottom calling ... ? Minyanville ~


A call came in this morning from Shawn Hackett, founder and CEO of Hackett Financial Advisors, a Boynton Beach, Florida money management firm with a specific focus on agricultural commodities.

“Why is Cargill selling Mosaic (MOS)?" Hackett asked. “They know more about ag than anyone else in the world -- why would they be cashing out of the fertilizer business when everyone else is falling all over themselves to get in, with people talking about food shortages and riots going on?”

Cargill, which is the largest privately held company in the United States and competes directly alongside agribusiness behemoth Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), is unloading its $20 billion-plus stake in Mosaic -- the world's leading producer and marketer of concentrated phosphate and potash -- to reportedly free up money for the family-owned business’ charitable trusts without raising cash through an IPO and going public.

But why would Cargill, which according to its website, has “75 businesses organized around five major segments: Agriculture Services, Food Ingredients and Applications, Origination and Processing, Risk Management and Financial, and Industrial,” choose Mosaic as the one asset to shed?

“I don’t know exactly what’s going on inside other peoples’ heads, but this is certainly an interesting ‘tell,’” Hackett says. “There are so many other things they could be selling, so are they making a call that we’re at the top of the fertilizer cycle? The market is so bullish. Cargill’s not. Why would they give up all these ‘billions and billions of dollars in future value?’ It pays to pay attention to the kinds of companies who are really profitable again and again.”

Others agree.

“Cargill is smart money,” Malcolm Polley, president of Stewart Capital Advisors LLC, told Bloomberg news. “If they are getting out of Mosaic, maybe it’s a good time to hedge your bets probably in the whole sector.” 

Further, Mosaic CEO James Prokopanko and CFO Lawrence Stranghoener may sell what they described in a Tuesday regulatory filing as a “modest” number of MOS shares. What makes this noteworthy? Neither Prokopanko or Stranghoener have sold any of their Mosaic shares since the company was formed in 2004. 

Delving deeper, Hackett points out that Goldman Sachs (GS) has pared down their risk exposure to commodities to levels not seen since 2004.

“Q4 2010, Goldman had the lowest risk exposure to the overall commodity marketthey’ve had since Q1 2004,” he says. “What are they seeing that no one else seems to be? When you have two entities like Cargill and Goldman taking risk off the table, it may be a pretty telling macro call that there may be some trouble ahead.”

Matt McCormick, a banking analyst at Bahl & Gaynor, gave Reuters a similar perspective.

"I think Goldman is consciously making smaller bets on commodities," he said. "Any time you go back to a low of 2004, you are clearly making a substantial call." 

Equally substantial is the fact that Morgan Stanley (MS) and JPMorgan (JPM) have made similar moves that bear a closer look.

Morgan Stanley’s commodities “Value at Risk” in Q4 2010 was down roughly 20% for the quarter and JPMorgan’s VaR was flat -- but, as Reuters reports, “down more than two-thirds from its 2008 peak.”

“These numbers came despite a 28.7% jump in commodity prices over the two last quarters combined, as measured by the Reuters-Jefferies CRB index,” the news service reported. “The last time the CRB rose as much for two consecutive quarters was when it climbed 29% in 2008 and 34.5% 1973.”

While these questions are nothing more than questions at the moment, the prudent investor may well be served by filing them away for further thought.

“It doesn’t mean that it’s all over for commodities tomorrow,” Hackett says. “However, we may find out three or six months from now that we really should have been listening to this.”

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:52 | 907617 bingaling
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Gov't is coming to control food is what it means and their prices - Speculators in commodities will be made the enemy of the people by the MSM and blamed for high prices  . Commodity exchange lockdown bitchez! or maybe there will be some major "population " declining event in the near future ?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:10 | 907978 gloomboomdoom
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The FED will sell securities back into the market... bearish for Coms

11100 is a good bottom

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:18 | 908223 earnyermoney
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government controll will lead to rationing of a very limited selection of agricultural end products. Lots of empty shelves in your local grocery store. I would consider mass starvation a major population declining event.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 02:24 | 908648 The Navigator
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Most or all right on all points.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:20 | 907661 ColonelCooper
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Seriously dude....  Do you ever have an original thought?  Ever?  I mean sometimes a paste job is helpful, relevant (yours usually are at least), or interesting,,, but Shit!!  Start your own blog for Christssakes if you want to put up Dickensesque volumes on every single thread.  OR actually write some shit yourself.

Just sayin. 

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:56 | 908160 zaknick
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Why do you read ZH? If you don't think that the insiders passing up on a juicy run-up in any market is a good indication of what they have in store for our bankster Matrix and an excellent piece of survival intel, then what the hell are you readiing ZH for? Comic relief??

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:47 | 907692 Mark McGoldrick
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There is a 300 year supply of fertilizer at current consumption rates.  

Why would the chart of Potash look like this:

Why would the chart of Mosaic look like this:

Why would the chart of corn look like this:

Why does the chart of wheat look like this:

Why does the chart of oil look like this (mere months before the world economy collapses):

While food inflation is real, it is not because Bernanke is dumping digital money into reserve accounts. The absurdity of those charts begin in 2006/07/08, BEFORE anyone had ever heard of quantitative easing, and BEFORE an extra trillion lie dormant in reserve accounts. 

Here's your answer as to why food commodity prices are/were skyrocketing, why it might be coming to an end and why Cargill is trimming exposure:

Don't look at Bernanke.  Look at the sharks at GSCI.  Welcome to Wallagio, the Wall Street casino that fucks up the whole world. 


Wed, 01/26/2011 - 20:22 | 907826 hardcleareye
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It's interesting that you should post those charts.  I have been pondering over them for the last several months trying to understand the "dynamics" of them.  Food production is extremely energy dependent, hence a rise in oil triggers a rise in food. 

Perhaps if there was a "serious" global depression, this would trigger a significant reduction in global oil demand, the price per barrel oil would fall, the rest of the commodities would follow?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:03 | 908182 pslater
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So, I'm curious, doesn't the oil chart look like a massive, multi year head and shoulders pattern?  Given the nature of oil as a completely irreplaceable energy source and, if not peak oil at least peak cheap oil, the future population growth mentioned above would seem to make oil the ultimate BTFD asset.

I'm trying to envision a world situation that takes oil down to say $40/bbl again and the only thing that keeps popping up is armageddon.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:14 | 908217 earnyermoney
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Yes, your an evil speculator if you fail to follow the asset allocation directives of the fascist overlords.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 05:09 | 908734 OddFieldIsStrong
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"There is a 300 year supply of fertilizer at current consumption rates. "

Do you have the source for this bit of info? Thanks. 

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:57 | 907754 hardcleareye
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++  Thanks enjoyed the read and following up on this.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 20:07 | 907779 DocLogo
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I thought we were at peak phosphate. That's weird.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:04 | 908186 Bay of Pigs
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Junk. Stay on topic...or better yet, quit posting this garbage.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:35 | 908260 Spalding_Smailes
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Bay of swine -


If you could put your perma- bull pom~poms down for a second could you point out the worthless info in said piece ???? A powerhouse getting out of the ag trade in 2011 .... Hmmmmmmm.

O.k. you can go back now and start pumping the bubble ...

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:25 | 907534 cxl9
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Is he starting his car by remote control these days?


Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:14 | 907644 XitSam
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Don't count your conspiracy theories before they're hatched.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:26 | 907535 TruthInSunshine
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They can't do this.

The Federal Reserve is a "private bank," with private shareholders, whose business model is essentially loaning money to governments, so that the taxpayers can pay interest on more and more accumulated debt.

Who does this Rand Paul person think he is? What is this 'Congress' thing all about?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:43 | 908409 Rick64
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 Nothing a major flash crash can't solve.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 02:10 | 908633 hugolp
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The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve (Bernanke and the rest of the gang) is a Federal Government agency. They can indeed audit it.

The local Feds are a mix of private and government entities, but they dont decide monetary policy, just implement the decisions the FOMC takes.

So yes, they can audit the Fed.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 02:20 | 908640 TruthInSunshine
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I was being sarcastic.


p.s. - The Federal Reserve has claimed contrary things as to whether they are a 'public' or 'private' entity in the past, depending on whether it suited their needs.

For example, when Bloomberg Financial News sued The Federal Reserve, under the Freedom of Information Act, to compel them to release data on how much money they expended, to whom, and for what assets (and on what dates), The Fed initially fought the suit claiming they were exempt from the statutory requirements of FOIA as they were a 'private, non-governmental' entity.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 07:34 | 908765 zhandax
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The biggest difference in the Federal Reserve and Federal Express is the president doesn't get to introduce the new chairman of Federal Express.  Up until this century, the president appointed the fed chairman but now the president simply introduces wall street's choice.  As mentioned immediately above, whether the fed admits as much depends on their immediate spin needs. 

More importantly, the fed has a charter from the Federal Government and that charter can be revoked at the will of Congress.  More than likely, a lot of congressmen need to have this fact pointed out to them.  I would wager that half of congress thinks the fed is a government agency.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:26 | 907537 DoChenRollingBearing
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Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:33 | 907538 plocequ1
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Arthur Jensen will soon be calling Rand Paul into his Val Halla office for a lecture about the primal forces of nature

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:26 | 907540 Timmay
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Wall Street, DC and the FED are married.


Pretty messy divorce coming up.....

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:15 | 908356 fleur de lis
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one hopes...

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:28 | 907543 Rogerwilco
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Audit away, Bernanke is the only man standing between us and tanks in the streets, zombies roaming the night, Obama starving to death. Smell the glove and submit.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 07:37 | 908775 zhandax
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Starve an obummer supporter.  Hide his food stamps under his work boots.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:28 | 907544 faustian bargain
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Ron Paul intro'd the house version today also, HR459.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:31 | 907547 TruthInSunshine
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"Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws."

-- Mayer Amschel Rothschild


Just sayin'.



Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:43 | 907594 topcallingtroll
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I see that quote all the time but never evidence of attribution. It may be the doomers version of the protocols of zion. I would love to see the original source attribution. Anybody got it?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 20:01 | 907763 New_Meat
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Google the whole phrase and it comes up in many places.  But it was apparently stated in like 1812, and Al Gore hadn't gotten the Internet up and running back then.  Go figure.

- Ned

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 20:17 | 907805 cranky-old-geezer
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Al Gore?  Same guy who started global warming?


Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:23 | 908043 New_Meat
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started? no.  Profit? Voila!

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:43 | 908402 fleur de lis
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The "Permit me..." quotation is attributable to AM Rothschild, the 18th century patriarchal street rat who perfected the art of tying government taxes to wars and the like, leaving the ordinary citizens with the burden of repayment with huge and crushing interest, leaving them(R) with massive profits. AMR spawned five sons who set up shop in the capitals of Europe, continuing the proud family tradition of bloodshed.

Nathan was based in London, took control of the BoE, and was the contact for the young nation of America. In 1811 the 20year central bank charter expired and Congress actually followed laws and the Constitution and refused to renew.   

At this affrond, street rat Nathan said, "Teach those impudent Americans a lesson. Bring them back to colonial status." Thus began the War of 1812.  He had more control of the Brits than the King himself. After tens of thousands of British, American, and possibly Hessian deaths, Congress relented and granted the Rothschilds their filthy charter.

Twenty years later it was Andrew Jackson's turn, who fought them tooth and nail, and eventually Woodrow-the-pushover-Wilson.

We are currently stuck with these parasites in the form of the Federal Tapeworm Reserve.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:57 | 908161 Jerome Lester H...
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I'm quite certain that the quote can be found in "The Rise Of The House Of Rothschild" By Count Egon Caesar Corti. It's been about 18 years since I read it but I am sure that it can be found in that book as I remember being familiar with that quote before I even owned a computer and that book is where I would have read it.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:46 | 908275 Cathartes Aura
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Quote by: Mayer Amschel Rothschild
[Mayer Amschel Bauer] (1744 -1812), Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe
Source: in 'The Creature from Jekyll Island' (American Opinion Publishing), p. 218

you're welcome.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 00:59 | 908530 Almost Solvent
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The devil first had to convince the world he did not exist.

The quote's authenticity is not important, its message is!

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:01 | 908532 Almost Solvent
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Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:31 | 907553 rubearish10
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Don't worry, they'll settle at get wrist slapped.

Someone display some believable truth as to how the cover-up can be so easily disclosed. Not a chance...not this way. TPTB know clealry what's at stake (as so often mentioned by TD and friends), this is not the Black Swan style event needed to win back our good ole' US of A.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:31 | 907554 buzzsaw99
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There's nothing to audit. No records are kept. One man, named Sackfreeze runs the printing press and drives the truck on deliveries.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:31 | 907555 CPL
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Not holding my breath on this accomplishing anything.

//grabbing a beer, sitting on the deck chair and watching the city burn in the distance.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:22 | 907667 ColonelCooper
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Wake me up if it actually gets to the floor for a vote before it gets its nuts cut off.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:33 | 907560 Atlas Shrugging
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And this also - "Rand Paul proposes $500 billion in federal budget cuts" -


This man is on a Crusade and is going to be fun to watch until ....

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:41 | 907587 Screwball
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500 billion is chump change.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:47 | 907608 TruthInSunshine
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It's a start.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:31 | 907689 scatterbrains
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it's time for the CIA to call up one of their mind controlled retards and bust a cap in his ass.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:34 | 907696 VegasBD
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not really

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:23 | 907671 jeffca
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Cut food stamps and you will have instant riots....think Tunisia, Cairo!

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:33 | 907561 ceedub
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This in no way makes up for the unbelievable amounts of stupid contained within this man.


I am embarassed to be represented by him.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:36 | 907568 TruthInSunshine
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So, you're saying you'd prefer a representative who makes no protest at your anal raping, rather than at least some protest?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:38 | 907575 lunaticfringe
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He'd rather be wooed by an intelligent man. I am not embarrassed- let me carry the load for you ceedub.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:43 | 907590 Sean7k
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I'm not. McConnell yes, but Rand is off to a nice start. I say we give him his lead.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:44 | 907597 tmosley
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Hurrr, I hate wepubwicans.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:24 | 907674 ColonelCooper
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Junked for being an embarrassment.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:52 | 907739 Shell Game
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Because he opposes YourPTB?  An othewise brilliant argument..

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:55 | 907749 Cheesy Bastard
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You're just mad because you lost the eight oclock time slot on MSNBC. 

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 00:11 | 908467 GrouchoNotKarl
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I don't like to make ad hominems, but in your case: You're a fucking idiot.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 02:42 | 908667 DoChenRollingBearing
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Make mine junk number 42.

At least the Pauls are trying to make America a more transparent and free country.

.gov!  Leave me alone!

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:34 | 907562 Arthur Vandelay
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This would be so huge if they could get it through this time.  Not counting on it but I would love to see the look on Obama's face when it gets to his desk.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:02 | 907627 thepigman
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Obama will ask Immelt what to do:

"Jeff...what should I do now? HM...MMM."

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:26 | 907678 ColonelCooper
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I'm sorry, are those hummer noises?  Who's the dumpster?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:36 | 907569 lunaticfringe
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I think this has a chance of gaining serious traction. If we can ever rip that curtain off these bastages, all hell is gonna break loose.

We will see Mortimer holding one FRN. The most highly levered note of all time.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:36 | 907571 Rainman
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Shoot, at traditional Beltway speed that Fed audit would take 2-3 years. By that time the Barry and Ben show will have closed up and moved on.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:38 | 907578 lunaticfringe
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What's not to like?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:44 | 907580 TruthInSunshine
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By then, The Bernank will have fled to Tunisia, with 57 pieces of luggage holding 1.5 tons of gold (or tungsten).

Maybe they should revoke The Ben Bernank's passport.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:39 | 907579 topcallingtroll
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Dont get your hopes up. Better to resign yourself now to the warm embrace of cynicism and.despair.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:40 | 907582 InconvenientCou...
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Waste of time, now that the CIA can use the Fed as a WMD.

It's a national security issue.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:42 | 907591 Monkey Craig
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what's the over/under on these guys getting shot by a lone, disturbed gunman?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:45 | 907599 Sean7k
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Heck, nowadays, what's the over/under on any of us being shot by a lone gunman?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:46 | 907603 topcallingtroll
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Shooting is so 20th century. A focused electrical beam could put your heart into asystole or v fib at a distance. Even i could invent one with a good engineer. So I am sure the.government already has the heart attack raygun

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:47 | 907606 thedrickster
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Brainwashed by the baggers of course....oh.....wait.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:50 | 907613 thepigman
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Heck...we'll probably find out the fed's

Caribbean sub own 75% of the junkers

in the Russell 2000.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:54 | 907620 Pants McPants
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I think calls for Rand being off'd by TPTB are a bit premature.  They have to at least smear him for his courage to stand up against the Civil Rights (snicker) Act first.

There was no shortage of hatred for Rand when that tidbit was exposed...especially on the lib side.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:18 | 907659 Salinger
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interesting thing is that the progressives have as much disdain for the fed as the tea party (strange bedfellows)

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:22 | 907669 Pants McPants
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Interesting.  The overwhelming majority of my friends identify themselves as progressives.  I'm not sure they know the Fed exists, let alone hold it in contempt.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:25 | 907675 Salinger
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I'm thinking HuffPo crowd and writers like Matt Taibbi

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 18:59 | 907626's picture

Interpretations please:

physical gold, bitchez?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:15 | 908219 Buzz Wired
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The paper gold & silver markets (primarily GLD & SLV) are decoupling and will implode when the sheeple realize its all a fractional reserve ponzi scheme. Physical will explode at the same time, the house of cards comes tumbling down and all hell breaks loose. Or maybe not.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:08 | 907639 herman55
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As to Cargill selling off Mosaic....the reason is this: the price of wheat without the ethanol fraud goes to $4.15 and corn to $3.65. The demand for fertilizer will drop by half. The effect of the ethanol scam is now being played out in one of our very best long term customers homeland....Egypt. The ethanol program is economically a joke, morally horrific and ethically unsustainable.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:13 | 907645 flow5
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Sometimes our legislators are listening. 

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:15 | 907650 Salinger
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there was an interview today on Bloomterd TV with Jim Grant - it was among the best interviews I have seen of late but for whatever reason has not yet been put on their site as a video clip - Fortunately I have a audio recording of it, which I will upload if it does not appear on Bloomterd/clipsyndicate.


He totally ripped the fed

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:24 | 907673 JR
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Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:16 | 907654 Everybodys All ...
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Nearly no chance this passes and if it does do you really believe we will see what is truly on their balnce sheet.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:16 | 907656 Everybodys All ...
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Nearly no chance this passes and if it does do you really believe we will see what is truly on their balnce sheet.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:22 | 907666 JR
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The most important immediate advantage is to see which senators will be on board, with their comments—how it’s handled in committee, and its use in political campaigns against opponents in the next election cycle, especially against Democrats as there are more up for election.

Probably it’s never going to get out of committee as the Democrats control the committee and don’t want to vote on it; but you can force the committee members to take a stand and it can be used against the Dems in the general election if they keep it from coming to the floor.

We’ll see. But one thing it proves, representatives of the people are heading to DC and it’s not just going to be, as Clinton called all adverse political scandals, another nine day wonder to be the politicos.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:22 | 907668 David99
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FED has bought every joker, nothing much is expected from the Circus

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:31 | 907688 NOTW777
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Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:46 | 907723 bb5
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I wonder if the average citizen will ever wake up?

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:57 | 907740 gloomboomdoom
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Dr. Doom is never wrong! Drop your pants and get long!

20% correction in gold (pop)

2008 = CRASH

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 19:53 | 907744 sweaty7
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Wonder if when the audit is complete they'll hold a big news conference and give us all the juicy details? if so, I hope they don't schedule while Jersey Shore is on. ;)

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:21 | 908370 JR
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I went out to dinner tonight, sweaty, and shared your quip with the guys, and we all had a good laugh. And, by the way, it kinda makes you wonder just what planet the junkers live on, doesn't it? 

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 13:04 | 909595 sweaty7
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Glad i added some laughter to your dinner. These days, we have to laugh to keep from crying!

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 20:40 | 907872 Kina
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WikkiLeaks got leaked all the files of the Fed. An A4 page with Bernanke's name at the top with some doodles, and his practice signature a dozen times.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:18 | 908016 gloomboomdoom
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He probably reads Zerohege... I am pretty confident the FED reads this site (no I cannot prove it).

You really think Ben runs the world from the mountain top?

They really don't think about these issues too deeply... overall the economy is doing better.

Ben already is on record predicting the next "event"... sure he could mop up liquidity, but really?

I know college age kids... they love online banking and Chase widgets. That is their new Gold Standard

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:09 | 907975 OMG
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Exspose Bem's bazooka I don't think so! Not something I want to see.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:25 | 908044 Joe Sixpack
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Proclamation on the Federal Reserve System of the United States of America


March 2008

WHEREAS, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America authorizes Congress "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures";

WHEREAS, on December 23rd, 1913 the US Congress enacted the Federal Reserve System;

WHEREAS, the Federal Reserve System is considered an independent agency within the federal government, with oversight of Congress and containing appointed public officials on its board of directors;

WHEREAS, the Federal Reserve System Controls the Federal Reserve Note, the official currency of the great nation of the United States of America;

WHEREAS, there may be controversies regarding the legality and constitutionality of the Federal Reserve System, it is recognized that the said system has operated continuously as the central banking system of the United States since the inception of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913;

WHEREAS, the Constitution of the United States of America granted Congress the authority to create the current Federal Reserve System, it also does grant Congress the authority to modify or revoke the Federal Reserve System;

WHEREAS, the actions of the Fedreral Reserve System represent the credit and currency of the United Stated of America to the citizens of this great nation and to the world;

WHEREAS, the Federal Reserve System, acting independently within the federal government allowed, supported, and even promoted parasitical and non-productive uses of the money and credit of the United States of America;

WHEREAS, the United States and likely the entire world's financial system is undergoing massive de-leveraging of the said parasitical and non-productive uses of the credit and money of the United States of America (as well as other nations' currencies);

WHEREAS, the US dollar, the "Federal Reserve Note" is declining in value due to these parasitical activites, as well as potentially other causes;

WHEREAS, it is recognized that the citizens of the United States and other nations did willingly participate at some level in the creation and propogation of said parasitical activities;

WHEREAS, it is also recognized that the United States of America, a sovereign nation, has the legal, moral, and God given authority to take actions to benefit its citizens and to protect its good name, credit and money in times of difficulty;

WHEREAS, it is recognized that the current time is such a time of great difficulty;

WHEREAS, it is recognized the parasitical financial institutions and their activities are at odds with citizens of the United States of America and the good credit and money thereof;

WHEREAS, the current indications are that the Federal Reserve System is acting to preserve the financial system currently flooded with the parasitical activities;

WHEREAS, the current indications are that the neither the Federal Reserve System, nor the Congress of the United States, nor the people of the United States have access to the books of the institutions being preserved by the Federal Reserve, and therefor the degree of inter-connectivity and risk associated with the institutions and other entities cannot be determined;

WHEREAS, the Federal Reserve System is accepting non-performing assets as collateral for credit with ultimate taxpayer responibility to entities not under its legislative mandate;

IT MUST BE CONCLUDED, that the Federal Reserve System is not acting to the benefit of the people of the United States of America, its credit, money, and good name;

WHEREAS, it is recognized that the political will and capability of the government of the United States of America may not be up to the task of prosecuting this proclamation ; It is also recognized that this may be the only hope for the continued survival of the United States of America as the great nation as it has historically existed.

NOW THEREFORE, it is PROCLAIMED by those supporting this Proclamation that the Congress of the United States of America FULLY NATIONALIZE the Federal Reserve System, and take full control of the credit and money of our great nation; The Congress must take whatever action necessary to seperate out, sequester, disown, or otherwise neutralize the effect of the parasitical financial activities which led to the current crisis; The Congress of the United States of America must reorganize, replace, or terminate the Federal Reserve System as appropriate; or otherwise devise a system for creation of the national currency.

IT IS FURTHER PROCLAIMED, that the Congress of the United States of America in cooperation with the Executive of the United States of America contact allied nations and any other nation willing to participate in the overhaul of the failing and parastical financial sytem currently in operation and create new treaties and alliances as necessary to create a sane and productive system of finance with the express goal of supporting a productive national, and by extension and through voluntary cooperation, world economy;

FURTHERMORE, it is PROCLAIMED that it should be the goal of such an international effort to maintain fair international trading practices allowing for protection in national interest of labor, resources, and productive capabilities;

WHEREAS, it is recognized that such a move on the part of the United States of America may result in the necessity of an isolationist policy IF the other developed nations do not follow our lead; If such occurs, so be it.


Wed, 01/26/2011 - 21:44 | 908124 gwar5
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We should be able to audit the Fed anytime we want since the Fed now has authority to monitor every single transaction of every single American through the new "Consumer Protection Agency"


Wed, 01/26/2011 - 22:44 | 908279 RoRoTrader
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Sort of like bringing a Bick lighter to an Iceberg fight

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:01 | 908325 TruthInSunshine
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I am contemplative tonight, and I got around to thinking about why it isn't very straightfoward to explain to Americans how illogical an entity The Federal Reserve System really is, and why so many more politicians have not exploited this fact for what could be incredibly successful leverage while campaigning or when in office.

It's isn't very complicated to explain the incredible corruption of The Federal Reserve to even the average American. The explanation would go something along these lines:

Why do we have a private bank that is free to increase or decrease the American Money Supply whenever it so chooses, with none of the members of this private bank being elected, and why is it that this private bank is able to loan money to our government, which is supposed to be able to issue its own currency, and then charge American Citizens interest on the loans? Why is there even a need for an intermediary, let alone a private bank intermediary, to do this?



Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:32 | 908390 ebworthen
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Homer Simpson would say "Do they have free donuts?".

I agree with you, but the sad truth is that a majority of aMeriKans don't have the ability to see beyond the glass onion that tells them to "Consume" or "Breed".

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:08 | 908547 Almost Solvent
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Or pick Benjamin outta lineup

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 09:19 | 908894 GreenSideUp
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I have no scientific evidence either way but I have spent the past several years trying to enlighten any and everyone who will listen and I've been pleasantly surprised seeing the light bulb of understanding come on (followed by the question, "what can we do about it?").    

I've been involved in a couple of Audit the Fed petition drives; people are eager to sign and converse about the Fed.  

The toughest nuts to crack: those with formal economics skooling followed by those who truly believe the government is good, honest and benevolent. 

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:33 | 908585 Reese Bobby
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I think you need to link it back to the average person's day-to-day:

Why should a PRIVATE bank that reports to the GLOBAL banking system that OWNS your public servants print/treat the money you slave for like it has no value, just to enrich the GLOBAL banking douche-bags who hate you.  Then cite Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson & Dwight Eisenhower.  It is NOT COMPLICATED.



Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:09 | 908343 fleur de lis
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one hopes...

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:52 | 908428 JW n FL
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Pink Elephant in the room... (I am a troll for saying it, sure?)


The people, not us... the majority of citizens dont care... thusly it will never happen... and nothing will come of it...


you may now junk me to infinity and beyond becuase the broader populace is fucking stupid and I am telling the truth!

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 09:53 | 909023 Thunder Dome
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The ignorant public is the problem.  Not the corrupt individuals who exploit it.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:57 | 908444 Ima anal sphincter
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When one is in power. One will do whatever is necessary to stay in power. Until the time that power is taken from them. When is that date?

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 00:12 | 908470 JW n FL
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the victors right history... i said it that way for a reason...

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 00:42 | 908515 Ima anal sphincter
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The bankers have been writing history for a long, long time. The people have been wronged. I personally would like to get my "pen" out and start a new book; written the right way.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:14 | 908557 JW n FL
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I will type for you, all you have to do is speak slowly becuase I am a shitty speeler.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:18 | 908567 Ima anal sphincter
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Good one....I'll leave it at that.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 02:12 | 908637 JW n FL
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I am serious... I am with anyone who wants to change anything or everything.. I am not joking.

Wed, 01/26/2011 - 23:59 | 908448 JustACitizen
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Somehow - I just have a hard time believing that Congress is going to get all tough on the Fed. Think about it - these guys haven't prosecuted any of the Wall St. criminals - for anything. And now you think that they are going to take on the "holiest of the holy" doing god's work?

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:37 | 908594 Reese Bobby
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The "rape of the middle class" needs to be presented in terms the average person lives every day:

Why should a PRIVATE bank that reports only to the GLOBAL banking system that OWNS your public servants print/treat the money you slave for like it has no value, just to enrich the GLOBAL banking douche-bags who hate you.  Then cite Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson & Dwight Eisenhower.  It is NOT COMPLICATED.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:58 | 908619 TruthInSunshine
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Then cite Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson & Dwight Eisenhower.

Don't forget George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield & John F. Kennedy, all adamantly opposed to a central bank, especially a private one, and with 3 out of the 4 being assassinated (in addition to Andrew Jackson's attempted assassination).

*There is historical debate about JFK's position, but none regarding the others cited above.

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 02:30 | 908656 Reese Bobby
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Yes.  A thoughtful comment.  And the Kennedy connection is not common knowledge outside of ZH.  Godless people will kill for money; they always have.  It may not matter in the BIG picture but it is irritating nonetheless.  I wonder how the "killers" deal with TWO Rand's?  Can they be bought for some price?  Can you kill two?  Interesting dynamic.


The willingness to kill has always been generally interesting to me.  Once you are willing to kill people your earthly opotunities expand a lot.  But obviously it is the worst trade a person could make based on my beliefs.


FYI: The best way to be attacked on ZH is to admit to being a Christian.  Also, "Interesting."  A total mystery how this Country lost its way...

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 03:08 | 908684 DoChenRollingBearing
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OK, Let's see re junks on Christians.  I will check this thread tomorrow as soon as I can.

The Bearing is a Christian!  Although, arguably a bad one, because he does not go to Church on Sundays.  Ah, well, the Bearing is FAR from even near-perfect...

Ron & Rand Paul...  I hope that that these two can be part of the transformation of America to a freer and stronger country, based on our original values of freedom, small government and LEAVE ME ALONE so I can make my family more secure.

Even in its degraded condition, the USA is still the best hope for leading the world to some resemblance of liberty...

But, as we cannot predict the future, PLEASE look out for yourselves and your families first in these scary times.

Best of luck and choose wisely!


Thu, 01/27/2011 - 03:50 | 908700 JW n FL
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by Reese Bobby
on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 01:30

FYI: The best way to be attacked on ZH is to admit to being a Christian.  Also, "Interesting."  A total mystery how this Country lost its way...



you are no christian.. you are an abortion freak, hell fire the end is near...

I am a Catholic, did you know that the Catholics killed more wanna be Christians than Musilums during the Crusades?

You do now.

as for your dumbass question, why the country has lost its way?

the country filled with idiot Jesus Freaks like you, was busy painten up some anti-abortion signs talkin bout hell fire and such.. voting like the preacher told ya... instead of using the brain God gave ya.

Next, part of the answer to your super fucking idiotic question is... this country has turned the cheek to many fucking times.. thusly we get shit on every where by everyone... fuck you hippy Jesus freak, your dumbass is the fucking problem.

Eat a dick Jesus freak, hell fire that!

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 04:04 | 908708 JW n FL
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and the mormons... Jesus stopped off in Vegas (or where ever) and said bitchez for every body! BULLSHIT!!

the dumbass people of wallmart, politicaly correct, wanna be fucking hellfire crowd jas destroyed this country.

Stupid people should not breed!

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 04:10 | 908712 JW n FL
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acts will make you right with God.. not words, not anti-abortion signs... ACTS!!

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 12:11 | 909430 Reese Bobby
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I hope you find peace with God.  I am by definition a sinner and failed Christian.  The world made sense to me once I understood that.  I will say a prayer for you, and you can't stop me!

Thu, 01/27/2011 - 13:41 | 909732 JW n FL
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I pray at least once a day for everyone in the world, except myself...

so Thanks...

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