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Ratigan Grills Propaganda Queen Christina Romer, Demands Windfall Profit Tax Clarity, Gets Blank Stare Response

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Ratigan cuts to the chase, bypassing the hollow rhetoric by Administration propaganda queen Christina Romer, who can't beat enough drums on today's pathologically ludicrous BLS numbers, yet is completely unwilling to discuss how the White House will proceed to recoup any of the taxpayer-subsidized windfalls at Wall Street firms. Any considerations of windfall tax, be they in the form of a Tobin tax, now openly supported by such people as Warren Buffett and John Bogle, or directly imposed, seems to not be on the White House's agenda currently or any time in the future. How is it so difficult for Obama to understand that Main Street is demanding some quid-pro-quo of firms like Goldman, whose employees are covertly purchasing Ferraris even as excess bank reserves hit another all time record yesterday, and instead of lending money out the banks continue to collect a risk-free 0.25% on these excess reserves, thereby once again picking taxpayers' pockets.

Yes, we all know they need the cash as they are well aware their balance sheets are in much more deplorable conditions than loose FASB regulations force them to disclose. However, the animosity is growing, and more and more the anger directed at Wall Street is becoming anchored at Obama and his Robert Rubin (i.e., Goldman Sachs) cronies, who despite their assumed ideological adherence, are seeminly much more pro-Wall Street than even previous Republican administrations. This will be a heated issue for the President, especially once details of individual Wall Street record bonuses become all too public.

 

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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Cursive
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The American people are starting to win a few battles with the banksters, i.e. yesterday's bitch slapping of "Not Obvious" Bernanke.  Thank you, ZH, for being a huge part of that effort.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:56 | Link to Comment El Hosel
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Nice to see Ratigan asking real questions, Christina reminds me of Gabby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:03 | Link to Comment deadhead
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I agree with Cursive on both counts.

Time to step the pressure up.  Continue to hammer your congress critters.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Cursive
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Thanks, DH.  Yes, step up the pressure.  I will be calling Sen. Vitter and Sen. Landrieu as many times as necessary.  Let's all do our part to return sanity to our great country.  A phone call is much easier and less costly than blood.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment FoolMeTwice
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Even a journey of thousand miles begins with a single step.

Kudos ZH keep on marching.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:17 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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That is so funny!!!

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 23:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 23:32 | Link to Comment ED
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If only Lloyd Blankcheque's Mrs would follow Christinas good example

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 00:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Tax those banks directly if you want to exact money from them.

Who said anything about exacting money from the banks? That won't happen. GoniffSachs pays an effective income tax rate of about 1%.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Your analysis makes no sense. Traders don't take money from real businessess or real investors; they narrow the spreads which helps investors. There is no benefit to a transactions tax except the politicians will have more loot to waste.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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just curious; why do we want frequent traders out of the market ???

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 23:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:46 | Link to Comment stoverny
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Is Rohmer smart?  Because I've seen her on TV a bunch of times now, and she comes across rather empty-headed.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:51 | Link to Comment AngryVoter
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Apparently for many decades the most important skill in Washington is the ability to not answer a question no matter how many times it is asked.  Ax em all.  Let the file for unemployment.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Rohmer is either a smart cheerleader or an average financial mind. She wasn't hired for her looks or her financial mind as much as her willingness to subvert her average financial mind for cheerleading duties. In other words, a tool.

Give me a O, give me a B, give...well, you know the rest.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Brian Griffin
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give me a E, give me a S, give me a E, what's that spell?  Obese! 

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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lol...hahahaha

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:10 | Link to Comment FoolMeTwice
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Ha ha ha ha ha.

You should have left the answer out and let people figure it out.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:38 | Link to Comment ChanceIs
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I can assure you that Rohmer's looks most likely figured a strong positive in the decision to give her that position.  In this time of plotical correctness, stunning looks are a disadvantage.  Lets show how egalitarian we can be.

Having siad that, I have found the concept of considering looks over capabilities to be completely offensive, as I hope everybody here does.  RoboTrader leads the way on that.

Having said all of that, she is clearly an empty headed cherleader.  She understood Ratigan's question after 10 seconds and tried to blow smoke up his a&% for the next few minutes.  Hey!!!  But speaking of looks, making the boss look good is what Washington is all about.

Somebody (Rubin, Paulson, etc) sold the White House (the last five of them) the maxim that the big banks are vital to the economy.  They never bothered to question that or otherwise prove it to themselves.  Gotta give the big banks free money or we will all starve.  Never mind the fact tht there is a host of small to mid size banks that would be happy to take the big banks' horrid loans off their hands for $0.50 on the buck - which is about what they are worth.

THis is all about keeping the banks' bondholders and executives from the harm they deserve.  The stockholders are in there somewhere but not significantly.

 

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:39 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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Ugly *and* incompetent. Fits right in at Berkeley.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:08 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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Have you not read the requirements manual to be a government employee? They can be found in the children's section of most libraries and book stores. Lord knows we don't want anyone "over qualified". She reminds me of Aunt Bee a little, don't you think?

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:56 | Link to Comment Big Red
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You denigrate "Aunt Bee" beyond repair with that comparison. Maybe more like an aunt from "Arsenic and Old  Lace?" Nah

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Thomas
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Romer is a complete idiot. I have never seen her acting to the contrary.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:47 | Link to Comment P Rankmug
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Who provides the lobotomy when you enter government service?

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:49 | Link to Comment AngryVoter
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Dylan for president.  Go Green Recycle Washington.  We are all sick of there crap being dumped on us. 

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:49 | Link to Comment CharlesBronson
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With less than 10% of Obama's hand picked savants having ANY private sector service....she is a perfect counterbalance.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:35 | Link to Comment rayen36
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In terms of experience? or in terms of body mass?

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Winisk
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Loved the way Dylan had to dumb it down by using a hamburger analogy.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:37 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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+10...LOL

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Tyler: find clip of his Q&A today...emphasis on his economic mettle...

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Brian Griffin
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Mmmmm, Christina is looking fine this morning.  Whoof. 

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Daedal
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I think the only windfall taxes Romer is familiar with are those charged to her at all-you-can-eat buffets.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:00 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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As she continued to smile and deflect I could not help but think: "A thing, once seen, cannot be unseen."

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Busy-Body
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More like "A thing, once seen, cannot be not eaten."

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:23 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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ah, the old see-food diet.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Unscarred
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That quote/unquote "blank stare" from Romer was just her reflecting on her breakfast that morning:

"Mmmmmmmmm.  Jeeeellyyyyy doooooughnuuuut.  NOM NOM NOM !!!"

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:10 | Link to Comment I am a Man I am...
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Why is that guy wearing a pearl necklace?  Go figure.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:15 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Shes wearing the same damn outfit. ha.

If she wasnt fat it would matter, but oh well.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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obviously socialism works better than capatalism... You go mother amxrica! (you fat pig!)

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 17:29 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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"needs to go work at Disney Land or something."

Wallmart greeter.

No offense intended to the greeters on this board.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Unscarred
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When you see this kind of presentation match with it's given results thus far, it's easy to understand how we've gotten to this point:

Presented Without Comment: Experience
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Terminal Frost
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I thought that was Susan Boyle!

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Fractional reserve has turned into fictional reserve. Screw lending, fixing the system, tweaking the game, working on game balance. Nuke it and start it over.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:42 | Link to Comment Stevm30
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quid-pro-quo, in a system based on a rule of law, is established at the time the contract is made.  As much as the public might want, they should not be allowed to go back, and re-write the agreement.  Accept the fact that our politicians failed us this time, and see if we can fix the source of the problem, which is the tendency to bail out faltering firms.  The government made a mistake, and now they want to lynch the beneficiaries... shouldn't work like that.  Despite what Buffet and Bogle want...

Non-steriodial annual homerun king:

Roger Maris - 61* (extended season)

Lifetime investment king (by average annual return):

Warren Buffet - 20.3%* (lobbied for and received govt. bailout - 2008)

 

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 14:49 | Link to Comment musth
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Ratigan is the man. Period. How's this guy still on TV?

 

That hog gives me baby powder fantasy's.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:26 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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He thanked her for the conversation in the end.  Dylan...a conversation involves 2 people contributing logical dialogue.  Where was any logic on her part?

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:30 | Link to Comment geopol
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Just watched the video---Content Free

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Let them all fail
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2.8% revised, GDP, eh? Which firm was it that revised their estimate to 2.8% at the last minute....hmmm....slips my mind

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:01 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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C. Romer, BLAH< BLAH<BLAH<BLAH.....repeat after me. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:17 | Link to Comment Mark Beck
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Ratigan missing one of his strongest points in punching the Romer spin machine on this particular topic, and that is, the current administration had plenty of time to address his specific concerns, but instead deliberately chose to ignore it.

On day one of Obama taking office, there should have been an immediate investigation of the root causes to the financial crisis. Then banking reform should have been his focus. Revamping the SEC, and regulating the derivatives market.

But, no.

After the financial crisis, what does the president concentrate on, stimulus and health care. Health care reform is admirable, and stimulus is also a necessary evil, but his timing is just lunacy.

Mark Beck

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 17:35 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I don't have a link for you but I have seen it. There was a news item I saw where they interviewed a "lender" who was just a guy, and a "borrower" also just a guy. Seems there is a database where lenders and borrowers are matched up. I saw it on the web.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Problem Is
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Public entity, State Bank of North Dakota... operating successfully since 1919.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:23 | Link to Comment JR
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Ah. The Romers and the Mankiws, the Summers and the Rubins. Washington, it seems, it just one big happy rotating university/banker/government family, overseeing US politics, finances, culture and foreign affairs. Do we really need a Congress?

Perhaps you recall N. Gregory Mankiw, who called for, as one blogger put it a few weeks ago, “a negative interest rate, a global carbon tax, a higher gas tax, and before the economy plunged deep into a downturn claimed, in December, 2007, that we should stay out of the way of the Fed as it continued its money manipulations”?  Whose Principles of Economics textbooks continue to be (unfortunately) the most popular and widely used text in the economics classroom,” according to Amazon.com?

Well, Mankiw and Christina’s husband, David Romer, are known for their “significant early contributions” to the “New Keynesian” theory as editors in 1991 of New Keynesian Economics, volumes 1 and 2—“not to be confused with Neo-Keynesian economics,” admonishes Wiki.  Ah, yes. Ah hummm. Also, they have co-authored Published Papers.

In that David and Christina also are “a well-known economist couple”--she also known for her “liberal Obama-heavy political views” (New York Times)--and frequently working together on papers and reseach, is it too far a stretch to assume that the Romers and Mankiw also are like-minded? The Romers also have edited their own book,  Reducing Inflation: Motivation and Strategy (National Bureau of Economic Research Studies in Income and Wealth), as well as Published Papers.

Mr. Romer can be reached both at the University of Berkeley where he still teaches, I assume, and also at his IMF office in Washington, D.C.. where he is special advisor to IMF chief economist Olivier Blanchard.

http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~dromer/cv.pdf

Said the WSJ, prior to Romer’s IMF appointment:

The wooing of Mr. Romer reflects the growing ties between the IMF and the new administration. Mr. Blanchard is a long-time friend and academic collaborator with former Clinton Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, who is slated to head another White House economic group, the National Economic Council. Essentially, Mr. Summers would become the Obama White House's top economic adviser.

During the Clinton presidency, Mr. Summers worked also with the IMF's managing director, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who was then French finance minister. During one meeting of international finance officials, Mr. Summer and Mr. Strauss-Kahn debated the merits of France's 30-hour work-week, says a former Clinton aide, with both of them using napkins to scribble calculations.

During the Clinton presidency, the IMF and Treasury worked closely, especially during the Asia financial crisis of 1997 and 1998, when the IMF put together multi-billion dollar packages to rescue troubled nations. Mr. Obama's choice for Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner, was then a Clinton Treasury aide and played a significant role in those negotiations.

After leaving the Treasury, Mr. Geithner became a senior IMF official. He is now president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York…

With much of the world now in recession, the IMF has again come to the fore, putting together packages to help Iceland, Hungary, Pakistan and other nations. The IMF also is prodding nations to boost government spending to help revive sagging economies. That puts them on the same page as the incoming Obama administration which is putting together a massive stimulus package.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/us/politics/25web-romer.html

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:58 | Link to Comment myshadow
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I don't know why she goes on with Dylan.  She does it monthly and he beats her up about the banksters, and she just ropeadopes and stays on message.  I don't know how much attention the President's econo team pays to this stuff.  They have a tin ear for main street for a year now and this is from the 'it's the economy stupid' party.  Though, I'm guessing they are gambling on the feeding frenzy that the 'treasury recapitolization' program the banks have been vampirizing their way to the appearance of solvency is going to have to come to a conclusion. They are going to have to direct some serious attention to how to get people working to generate the tax dollars to feed the squid when it blows up in three years.

I think the President is going to have some trouble from pissed off people, who are unemployed, seeing the second year of his term with no regulation of the markets, no accountability for the fraud that decimated their 401k's, or put their houses under water, and no perp walks of the squids that brought the economies of the world.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 16:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 17:30 | Link to Comment dza
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+1

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 18:51 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Cash for clunkers...hmmm....

Maybe we could clean out the entire Obama cabinet and staff and get cash for his clunkers.  We could start with the pristine Christine.

[Edit] If you have seen what some of them get paid, I just might be on to something.

They even have some Schmuck earning $36,000 a year, Robert to be precise, I shit you not, page 24:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/July1Report-Draft12.pdf

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/06/what-michelle-obamas-staffers-earn/

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 21:47 | Link to Comment Unscarred
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By my back of the envelope addition, I get just a hair under $1.5M for Michelle's staffers.  Hmmph...

I remember reading this article from March 28th when Obama met with bankers right after his inaugaration:

He appealed to the chief executives to see their bonus payments through the prism of Americans struggling to make ends meet. He noted he was the first new president not to redecorate the Oval Office. "There are still stains on the carpet," he said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123816459546857301.html

Amazing.  Makes me sick.  New players, same game, they win, we lose.

Zurich is nice, how's your German?

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 21:49 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Not so good on the German. Doubt I am employable abroad. It is sickening, and I wonder if it is different anywhere. [Sigh!]

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 18:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Let them all fail
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that might be the worst stupid interview ever, monologues followed by no answers, why even have her on there....and stop with the stupid friendly smile thing......ugh

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 21:46 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Why dis Janet Reno?

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Problem Is
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In a country of butt crack shorts, sideways ball caps and basketball jerseys as business attire, the vanacular of the popular cultured all American rabble would tell us:

Reno and Romer got man-face...

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 19:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 21:02 | Link to Comment JR
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The sobering reality is, Romer isn’t on Saturday Night Live: she’s in the top echelon of government. Nothing funny about her---these people are dangerous.

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 21:25 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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She looks like a drunk Barney Rubble

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Problem Is
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"She looks like a drunk Barney Rubble"

+1 on that.

I will stick with my Obama's Three Economic Stooges analogy:

Moe: Fat Larry Summers
The mean one and the "brains" of the outfit.

Larry: Timmay Geithner
Look at the porcupine hair. Makes you want to rip a clump out like I am sure Fat Larry does at White House meetings.

Curly: Bennie Bernank-ster
The tragic figure and most beloved of the stooges...

Christina Romer??.... Shemp
Look at the hair. Need I say more?

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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