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Reactor 1 Core Has Passed 400 Degrees Celsius
From Yomiuri online:
Translated:
Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry at a press conference Friday morning, the day before the No. 1 nuclear power plant in Fukushima Daiichi TEPCO announced that it was found that the temperature of 400 degrees in a nuclear reactor.
This was at 380 degrees a few hours back.
Readers can make their own conclusions.
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Might as well just put the site down.
BANG!
Okay all clear, don't mind that your face has melted off,,,,,,,
That's the New Normal.
HEY TEPCO/HITACHI/JAPANESE GOVT and PONZI PERPUTRAITORS (no that's spelled right in my book).... YOU STOLE THE FUTURES OF THE WORLDS YOUTH YOU F'NNNN AARSEHOLLLLLLES!!!!!
Youth is like - so wasted on the young.
your angry, your young and they have a War coming for you.
just got to get some waiting pills Lad
Turns out Reactor 3 was just as hot already, though it has come back down. They have a sensor attached on the outside of the Pressure Vessel, according to TEPCO engineers on March 20.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-reactor-no3-co...
Some Kamikaze worker probably had to attach a rectal thermometer to the housing.
Yep 2000 degrees F ,,,, totalllllllllly normal.
Thanks for the update and the xlation.
Hey, I just thought of something. If they're pumping IRRADIATED seawater onto the reactor, how does that change things?
Points to ponder....so many
The odds of getting food poisoning from drinking it are GREATLY reduced.
use the laszlo birinyi method (s&p 500 to 2800) to extrapolate temperatures
Explains why there is a news blackout everywhere else except here @ ZH
Google news about Fukushima it is trickling out now. TD your doing a bang em up job.
Pretty soon all those reactors are simply going to blow up or meltdown.
Afterwards, the Nikkei will rally 500 points because there will be nothing left within 100 miles.
They will end up turning the area into a global prison for the world's hardest core criminals.
You mean Bernanke's new home?
You mean Bernanke's new home?
Lucky it is just a little bit.
Now if that 9 wasn't just a foreshock for the big one...
Give me a break... I hope i'm not missing the </sarc> with this post.
If it the earthquake was an 11 you people would be on here saying its a foreshock to the coming 13.7.
12.8 actually. But close enough.
Horry Morry!
:-0
I find it interesting that the Japanese use arabic numerals (like us) in their headlines.
Regardless, this is scary sh*t.
Jor-El, scientist on the planet Krypton, husband of Lara, foresees the planet's fate, but his colleagues will not heed him, and the race is destined to die. He puts his son, Kal-El in a homemade spacecraft, sending him to Earth just moments before Krypton's demise.
lucky for us, eh?
now, where did i put that huge rubber band?
tyler... you are a serious burr under jay rockefeller's saddle.
all good baby!
BoJ are going to "aggressively" print...to oblivion. They have gone insane, those morons will cripple the Japanese economy as fuel prices will cap any 'boom' trade and the people begin to starve...then riot.
OK, is it 400 degrees c now, or was that Friday?
I can't read Japanese.
Also, if it's 400 degrees celsius - allegedly - what is it really?
I'm automatically assessing the Japanese Government & TEPCO a bullshit penalty of 200% going forward based on an algorithm I've compiled of past statements and actual discrepancies.
This article by Reuters confirms that the temperature just recently rose to 400:
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFDYE7DH02L20110323
This article by Reuters confirms that the temperature just recently rose to 400:
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFDYE7DH02L20110323
This article by Reuters confirms that the temperature just recently rose to 400:
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFDYE7DH02L20110323
Design limit of 302 degrees? That fucker's gonna blow... but there is not immediate danger.
I wonder how hot it needs to get before it becomes immediate danger?
but the rest of the reactors on the island are in good shape and pose no immediate or long term threat, unless of course a very low probability event ....
but this stuff is the easy stuff, its the slow burns that are so egregious
Thanks raya.
I concur. Temperature reported by Reuters at 4oo degrees celsius.
When do they re-write the laws of thermodynamics in Japan?
Oh, the government says there's no "risk of immediate danger," except that there's molten nuclear lava and God know's what else shedding burn-your-organ-and-bone-marrow isotopes everywhere, while conceding the temperature exceeds the design limits.
If this keeps up, I can see the Japanese Government being very much maligned by her citizens, given that the situation is going from bad to worse, and it would appear the government is actively doing everything in its power to lull citizens into a state of complacency.
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFDYE7DH02L20110323
Where is Ice Man when you need him?
They need to 1) vent down the reactor, 2) flood the top of the reactor, and 3) get some volunteers to remove the cover of the pressure vessel so there's a lot of water covering it. That's the normal procedure for extracting and replacing rods. At this moment it would be a real adventure! Volunteers?
A final thought before sleep and nightmares of nuclear, flaming, molten particles chasing me through fields of sunflowers and tulips -
Wasn't that IR Map posted on ZH earlier showing Number 3 and 4 reactors as the really hot ones?
IIf Number 1 is now 400 degrees celsius, I can hardly await the anywhere close to reality ttemp readings in 3 & 4.
chasing me through fields of sunflowers and tulips -
I believe real dreams use poppies and snow.
+1
Now- just stop it right there mister.
You are not allowed to speak of lateral thinking. Its not helpful and down right dangerous to use functioning gray matter.
Suffice to say what you are hearing is not what is happening. If it was good news there would be a half hour news bulletin with clapping hands and bows all around.
What is it with those bows that piss me off in a crisis - Up down, up down, up down, up down. For Goodness sake will somone put a Penis in front of their heads and at least get something going. - Stop wasting time fucktards and top kill this beast
ha! Europe is waking up...crosses selling
This just in... a new ETF has been created to track the average temperature of the Fukushima reactors, ticker symbol "FAIL".
BTFD, and expect the SPX to rally 1,000 pts.
happened before, will happen again...not a new development. They had 800mSv readings back on some of the earlier days
STFU. You have embarrassed yourself enough.
Any person with an ounce of pride would fly under the radar, had they made the disastrous calls you have made.
You are the ultimate atomic fade.
** In the afternoon, Japan's broadcaster NHK reported that radiation was detected in one of Tokyo's water purifying plant; the news looked to affect price action toward the Asian close.
"Japan's broadcaster NHK reported that radiation was detected in one of Tokyo's water purifying plant"
I'm waiting for a government announcement that people should boil their tapwater because of 'insignificant radiation levels'. At that point we'll have confirmation there's been a meltdown and core fire in the pressure-skulls of the Japanese government.
I am a dog. I love everyone except the evil ones.
Blessings to you all.
All I have to say is that drinking water is the 800 pound gorilla and white elephant in the room that few have spoken of.
If significant radiation gets into municipal water and irrigation water, then you have a situation that the ficitional character who played the brilliant but bi-polar Arthur Edens, attorney representing UNorth, described as:
I heard they shut down the water supply of a town 20 miles away - radioactive.
I believe it's safe to say there is no water in that reactor. It's just a matter of time now.
And a warning to not let infants drink Tokyo tap water:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/world/asia/24japan.html
But if you are being told it is unsafe for your children, why wouldn't it be unsafe for you?
I'm getting tired of hearing about "low risk" without any definitions of what low risk is.
All we need is for Trav to come along and tell us he thinks that the situation is improving in order to put the final, sad nail in the coffin.
4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight.
(March 23rd, 11: 25 Daily Yomiuri)
I don't read or write Japanese, but I think I figured out what all that stuff means. Here goes:
"Once upon a time there was a guy with a sword, who went into a house, where there was another guy with a sword and a really hot chick. They had a sword fight while cherry blossoms fell on a tree, maybe a banzai tree, but while they stopped to eat sushi, HOLY BAKATARI!!! the bill was 400 yen!!! Boy, did everybody get hot under the collar!!!"
I don't know what this has to do with Fukishima, but maybe I translated it incorrectly. Or maybe it is a Zen Thing??? Or a No Play???
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
Pure radioactive awesomeness.
Congratulations!
To CNN's newest recipient of the Charles Jacko Reporting Live from Kuwait Award for Particularly Unintelligible and Barely Relevant and Flagrantly False Fluff Broadcasting which replaced the Edward R. Murrow Award some 15 years ago when the reporting of factual news evolutionarily ceased as a basic human function.
Squeeky, on behalf of all of us with nothing better to do than seriously muse and opine upon the deepest of thoughts regarding the current condition of mankind here at ZeroHedge, let me the first to welcome your refreshingly insightful and perhaps purposeful reporting to the community.
That is nothing short of pure talent.
Brilliant.
Encore
"Fire will fall from the sky..." Our Lady of Akita, Japan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/51035734984@N01/40635102/
http://www.catholicmil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1689:japans-earthquake-epicenter-near-ol-of-akita-site&catid=75:other&Itemid=252
I highly recommend Caritas. They will help the people of the North, directly and specifically.
http://www.marypages.com/Akita.htm
It's time to call MacGruber!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKdrbRW5vY
Gray smoke again from Reactor 3.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-gray-smoke-fro...
Refering to my previous analysis of what is probably occuring in the SFP of #3
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/thermal-images-fukushima-indicate-blist...
I'd expect bursts of gray/black smoke would be from fragments of the roof (bitument sealing membrane on concrete?) or mechanical devices containing oil, subsiding down in the rubble pile over the burning fuel rods. Thus bringing combustible organic materials into the rod-burn zone above the remaining water in the pool.
That's hot!
I AM CHUMBADUMBA
I don't like coming to Zerohedge at the moment. I am afraid of what I might read.
Once you take the red pill there is no going back ;-)
Not enough info. What is it supposed to mean that the temp is 400 degrees C? Is that the fuel rods? It certainly isn't the water.
The announcement said 400 degC at the outside surface of the steel reactor pressure vessel of #1. It means the water and rods inside are that hot or more. Yes, the water can be that hot, because it is under pressure. That's the whole point - at what temp and pressure do nasty runaway events such as zirconium-oxygen reactions begin, and what is the maximum rated temp/pressure of the pressure vessel?
A temperature rising at a faster rate all of a sudden suggests something more than just the expected nuclear decay is generating heat in there. But then they don't really know what the average temperature rise over time has been, due to probably no instrumentation since battery-backup ran out on the 11th, and certainly none since the #1 building blew up on the 13th.
That they either don't know or are not saying what the pressure is, is worrying. Pressure should be determined by the temp, given a closed vessel partly filled with water. And...
The steam table I have only goes up to 374 degC, at which pressure is 221 bar, ie 3,205 psi. Also:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=saturated+steam+pressure+400+degrees+C
Ah... Apparently 400 deg C is above the supercritical point, hence the limit on the table.
http://www.elp.com/index/display/article-display/165839/articles/electri...
"What is supercritical steam?
When the pressure in a boiler exceeds the 'critical' pressure of 3208 psi, water and steam have the same density and no longer exist as separate phase states. Steam conditions above the critical pressure are referred to as 'supercritical.'"
Well anyway, it seems the pressure must be something over 3,200 psi. What is the safe limit on the pressure vessel and piping?
Prediction: next we hear talk about urgently needing to vent #1. Or a really, really big bang.
I do hope someone is keeping a video camera recording on that thing from a distance. Regardless of the media blackout. It would be a shame for the end of the world to arrive, and no one got video.
Could you be good enough to explain the difference between "super heated" and "super critical". Very familiar with SH steam (check for flange leaks with a corn broom, broom bursts into flames) but SC steam is new concept. Been more than a few years since my college steam plant classes.
Financial Times this morning states Site was evacuated due to smoke coming from one of the reactors. NYT hasn't picked it up yet.
hard here goes
super heated: as when you explain those credit card expenses at the local no tell hotel
super critical: when the wife is holding a gun during the discussion.
hope that helps..
normal operating pressure is 1100 psi
I read the decay heat is approximately 7MWt or less.
Haven't been able to find anything but I don't think it was designed to explode in case of failure.
I think it must be at least 10 to 20 times the operating pressure.
Translation: OMG! OMG! OMG!
Will this make it to Wikipedia?
nothing to see here. Move on please.
Lololol all under control!! Lolololol!!
I AM CHUMBADUMBA
Correction Everybody...
It's the America Syndrome for Japan Melts, China syndrome for American Melts.
I would stockpile mountains of sand close by.
Chernoble elephants foot of melted glassfuel from mixed in sand surrounding reactor.