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"Retail Investors Celebrate...by pulling money out of taxable bond funds as well."
I'm worried about karl D. every time I try to load his page I'm getting timed out.. specialy since he ran that piece on dude that snapped on his local board of ed.
Anyone know whats up ? The tin foil in me has his site getting attacked by us.gov
Hindenburg 2nd day in a row, Bitchez.
Out of Bonds and Out of Stocks.... hmmm? Into... Yep Gold/Silver!
Some, yeah. But the majority will hoard. Then, the QEn will debase and then all those dollars will flood the system and the Austrians will be proven right. [cue the horns of irony]
whattya talking about?? The US Fascist regime loves splinter groups like Denninger that incite panic, chaos and more confusion to the situation. He's a helluva guy!
the primary objective is capital extraction
Restores faith that not every American is a sheep waiting to be sheered. If only theyd make the next logical step and move that cash into physical PMs.
Could mean that the wolves are running out of sheep to shear. I think that quite a few folks are raiding their nest-eggs, 401K's, IRA's not to re-invest in PM's, but because they need the money to pay bills, buy stuff, continue the dance. When there are no more sheep to shear the game is up.
A little of column A, a little of column B....
I agree, the housing ATM is probably being replaced with the 401-k withdrawals or borrowings. Old spending habits die hard, but this time I think people really gotta have cash to pay monthly necessity bills......like data plans for the latest handheld devices.
"the trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money". -- margaret thatcher
["the trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money". -- margaret thatcher]---Violetta
And, the trouble with free enterprise is...is...
Oh yeah! The trouble with free enterprise is that governments eventually run out of bureaucrats.
I wasn't allowed to take out my 401k at all. They only allowed it for very specific reasons or termination. I maxed out my loan and bought precious metals back when it was 1050/17 (first time buy). I'm repaying them in devalued fiats! Not a bad investment at all! :-)
I keep exchanging fiat with PM every quarter, following harvey and others to buy the effing dips of that quarter. Happy camper so far! :-)
excellent. good for you.
Move cash into physical PM's, thats good, but physical non precious metals are great as well! Copper encased lead, brass, etc.
True point, but to be serious, I would think that copper could very well be moved into the PM column here soon. Anyone read the article where China was looking into a tri-metal backed monetary system? Who is stockpiling copper reserves? China, and to some extent JPM - but only because China is too!
Reload. It is relaxing and you can see the satisfying results as the finished product build up on your workbench! You get to handle the brass, jacketed lead, and feel the satisfying crunch as your Lee factory crimp die seals the deal.
*Special* End-Of-America message:
P.S. Market Ticker is offline...looky at Karl's last post:
consider that in waves, people will pull funds from the debt side and rotate to the equity side. due to the relative "myth of stability" with respect to bonds vs stocks, we witness that people re-rotate back toward the equity side much more carefully. huge franchise businesses are *CHEAP* and as such, will be the willful recipients of the cash over the next few years while the *junk rally* we have witnessed will fade into memory like those "uber-hot" leasing stocks people priced like an internet bubble--- as in the 1970's. quality will again reign supreme. patience will be a necessary virtue. we would rather rather load our portfolios with CVX, MO, COP, PEP, MCD, PFE, MRK, LLY, XOM, KO, WMT, CSCO, MSFT, INTC at an average P/E of 9X (after deducting all of the cash per share) and get an after-tax 11%+ earnings yield for 10 years (plus inflation) vs (even) a 7% 10 year bond. not particularly difficult work, but it takes patience so no one wants to do it. Shawn A. Mesaros, Pamria, LLC
I believe data would actually support people are more heavily weighted (at least prior to all these withdrawals) equities than fixed income.
Like the generals in WW I you have the perfect plan for the last war. It's not going to happen. growth exists in the past tense. crash and burn doesn't pay returns in the stock market.
Looks like the trend is decelerating Buy the tail!!!
you have to wonder when these morons are going to figure out that the peasants -- who now have had every dime stolen from them, and don't have jobs, or if they do, are trying to keep heads above the non-existant inflationary waters -- when these idiots praying retail will come back to take the stock they pumped to the moon off their hands.....
when are they gonna figure out they've taken EVERY FRIGGIN' DIME FROM THE PEASANTRY and there is no more to steal???
Exactly right, WHO does the FED believe is available for endgame, that is dumping their trillions worth of stocks and bonds to is beyond my comprehension, and the only real relevant question!
This is the fuking Underpants Gnomes!!
Step 1- Collect underpants.
Step 2- ??
Step 3- PROFIT!
Exact same fucking thing!
Step 1- Collect underpants.Step 2- ??Step 3- PROFIT!
Step 1- Collect underpants.Step 2- ??Step 3- PROFIT!
Ever seen that episode? I tried but couldnt find a good clip, hillarious!!
the Fed is only doing what its alway meant to do...and that goes for all the Central Banks. They have no use for fiat currency and could care less what they pay for treasuries and other bonds. They are simply buying the Titles to all the world's property and land. They'll control everything through default.
BINGO! Dogismyth has it!
The second chart looks oddly similiar to net government revenues
How about a comparison to 2000 and 2007 (market tops)?
I am 100% confident that capital outflows are good for stocks. It's ALL good (and don't you ever f#$king forget it you rebels)!
investors are rotating out of bonds and into stocks ?????
is this not backwards?
Nope, investors are rotating out of stocks as well, and rolling towards the gun store.
[...investors are rotating out of stocks as well, and rolling towards the gun store.]---SheepDog-One
Rotating into gun stores.
Buy the dips, in ammo prices.
Buy the fucking dip'
Your buying US bonds here ?
don't insult me like that. I would not buy US treasuries with ben Bernankes money
32 Weeks of Increasing Cash on the SidelinesNow, let's go to our head dickweed correspondent Dennis Kneale to tell us why this means a big surge in equities ahead...
Don't worry - Harrywanger has been propping up Nasdaq with his APPL purchases.
and yet again you hit upon something terrifying but fail to note it. it's not the "imminent 2008" scenario but instead "that foreign outflows will be reversed." this is in fact where "the debt lards" have been "going great guns for growth." in "safe foreign lands." indeed "should those foreign fund outflows actually be reveresed" you will see a dramatic a material impact upon those who basically see the imminent debt apocalypse as "nothing equities can't shit upon on their way higher." phucking pigs--"always claiming greater equality than all the rest." i say DRAW THE LINE AT HAPPIUM!
Is everyone getting cash to stuff in their mattresses, or are they getting cash so they can go buy gold at the local coin dealer without alerting their respective governments?
Getting some rifles and cases of ammo as well. People think someones money has to either be in stocks or bonds, most people now have neither. Roll to the Costco and gun store, stock up.
now boys, let's play nice.
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