Retail Sales Ex-Autos In Line With Expectations, As Empire Index Plunges: New Orders Drop Largest Since September 2001

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Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:42 | 727302 godzila
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Excellent news indeed...

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:46 | 727310 Superdrol
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That's funny.  Time to rally +500 points instead of 1,000.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:47 | 727313 A Man without Q...
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Of course, with the GM IPO on the horizon, you'd want to make sure auto sales are looking healthy.....

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:49 | 727325 Miles Kendig
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Must be fleet sales - once again

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:11 | 727360 moregoldplease
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Remember GE ordered 12,000 Chevy Volts for the company fleet just last month.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:16 | 727366 A Man without Q...
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So, knowing GE, they probably bought the cars on a bulk discount, then sold the vehicles into a special purpose vehicle (financed by GE Capital) for an elevated price and recognized a profit on the whole structure...

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:20 | 727377 snowball777
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Sounds complicated; couldn't they just steal one from the lot and be done with it?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:53 | 727330 HelluvaEngineer
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What portion of their sales are now in Asia?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:04 | 727352 taraxias
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Why does it have to be anything? It's a made up number like everything else.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 12:26 | 727654 cosmictrainwreck
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you got that right! often wonder how market players discount statistical BS, if they simply ignore it, or more likely have decent research in-house

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:35 | 727419 ElvisDog
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I can't imagine anyone buying the GM IPO, except if the funds to do so were being provided by the government. Will the Fed itself be the largest (or only) buyer of the GM IPO?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 15:12 | 728093 Quantum Nucleonics
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It is everyone's patriotic duty to buy the GM IPO!  The government MUST get it's money back.  The unions must get their money.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:53 | 727314 firstdivision
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Since the only thing manufactured in NY are financial derivatives, wouldn't one think it is a positive thing for the global economy that less derivatives are being created?


I would wager a guess that if stores were not bringing their sales up in October, that ex-auto would easily have been 0.2 or less.  It is easy to boost volume by having sales.  What I am curious about is how much this will destroy November and December numbers?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:48 | 727318 HelluvaEngineer
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None of this matters, blah blah, buy AAPL, POMO, f&cking whatever

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:48 | 727319 Tense INDIAN
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ispite of the rising US dollar......european stocks are flying high.......whatever happened to that Rising-US-dollar-will-floor-stocks .....

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:49 | 727322 Miles Kendig
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If the Philly fed follows look out!

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:55 | 727337 Id fight Gandhi
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For what! Banana ben will ram up more QE or devalue the dollar more so the tiny sliver of manufacturing the USA does might grow a tad

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:44 | 727433 ElvisDog
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You're like one of those cargo cult people except you seem to have an undying belief in the power of the Fed. Long-term interest rates have been rising since the launch of QE-2, not falling as they were supposed to. More QE -> higher interest rates = failure and forced abdonment of QE.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:50 | 727326 Dick Darlington
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This with the imminent tax payer backed bailout of sovereigns in Europe and FED monetizations every day this week should give equities a nice boost.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:23 | 727387 snowball777
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Only when denominated in fiat. YMMV.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:51 | 727327 Grandpa Bear Hug
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Gotta love seasonal adjustments as it makes everything appear bright, cheery and shiny:


Bldng Material $24.451 bil while $23.864 bil NSA

Clothing $18.186 bil while $17.647 bil NSA

Electronics $8.647 bil while $7.512 NSA

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:52 | 727329 Djirk
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Net w/o inflation, negative?

Net w/o gasoline, negative?

Net w/o iPhones, negative?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:54 | 727332 shushup
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Those Retards at CNBC don't bother to look at the details of the report.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:58 | 727343 SheepDog-One
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CNBC's only job now is to carry the mad monetizers water. 

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:47 | 727440 lizzy36
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Please, CNBC, is busy QVCing the whore house to the Middle East:Dubai.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:59 | 727342 Thunder Dome
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Seems like the data is sporadically starting to turn down. 

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 09:59 | 727344 mbasham
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durden, you've got the general merchandise numbers completely wrong, NSA up 49860 from 46251, month to month, but this reflects large seasonal factor; SA 51083 up a tiny bit from 50981, or about 0.2%; elsewhere, the seasonal adjustment for building supply stores appears very questionable compared to 2009; i have less and less faith in each gov. econ number that comes out

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:00 | 727346 plocequ1
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This is what Wallstreet sees.  The Headlines are all that matters. Dont worry about the fine print. 2 more hours till POMO... YEA!!!

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:02 | 727348 John McCloy
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Anyone notice sign and drive is back with auto dealers big time. Just sign your X and roll off the lot in your new Escalade.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:25 | 727392 snowball777
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The new home refinancing.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:26 | 727395 Bill Lumbergh
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Good times are here again just like Wanger said.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 12:12 | 727610 VisualCSharp
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Does this mean we'll be seeing an auto bubble?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:05 | 727349 Spalding_Smailes
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Caterpillar in $7.6 Billion Deal for Bucyrus

The purchase of Bucyrus will help Caterpillar expand its global footprint in the mining equipment industry, Bucyrus specializes in surface and underground equipment for the extraction of coal, copper and other minerals.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:07 | 727358 firstdivision
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Gold and silver are looking to make a mad dash to the upside this week.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:04 | 727353 David99
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FED is by the elites, for elites, from elites & Fraud Street gang. FED has nothing to do with Main Street

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:07 | 727356 DollarDive
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Get long the EURO now.  I'm guessing that when POMO is released, there will also be an IRISH bailout announced.  Double power POMO, send the EURO skyhigh and the POMO will push equities back above the top of the channel.  Atomic POMO today.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:18 | 727368 firstdivision
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I think this will be another sell during the POMO, then buy at about 1:30ish for the EOD pump. 

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:20 | 727373 Bold Eagle
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Why not get long the real currency instead?

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:50 | 727445 firstdivision
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The only real currency are skills that are benificial to society.  Even gold/silive/whatever has its limitations, especially if there was a true collapse in global currencies. 

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 12:13 | 727614 VisualCSharp
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Good Lord, there is someone out there with some common sense! Folks need to stop worrying about hoarding goods and the like. Focus on learning skills people need were TSTHTF. Baking, gardening, physical protection (be a good shot, don't just own guns), raising children, etc.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:16 | 727365 NOTW777
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obamajokecare - waivers left and right - especially for unions

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:37 | 727411 snowball777
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Adventist Care Centers

UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust

HCR Manor Care

New England Health Care

Aegis Insurance

Alliance One Tobacco

Carlson Restaurants

Jeffords Steel and Engineering

Uh huh...I'm sure the couple hundred people in each local are much more relevant than the 209,423 from Aetna, idiot. Sooner or later you morons will figure out that your hero Ronnie finished off the unions and the 12% of the workforce that is still in one aren't nearly as useful for frightening the populace as they were in the 80s.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 11:28 | 727509 LowProfile
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...And you're a Red team/Blue team douchebag. 

  UFT Welfare Fund - 351,000      


Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:20 | 727374 DavidC
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Ooh, Tyler, the way you said POMO - I think I've just had an orgasm...


Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:20 | 727375 shushup
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How is it that people can afford to buy all these new cars?

Of course all the new Payments will mean less money to spend on general goods, unless all of these new purchases are expiring leases going to purchases.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:28 | 727398 snowball777
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 0% financing for up to 60 months

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 12:15 | 727617 VisualCSharp
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That's not long enough! I demand 0% financing for up to Judgment Day!

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:31 | 727408 Cone of Uncertainty
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Dude, when you stop paying your mortgage your disposable income surges.


Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:33 | 727413 snowball777
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Assuming you have an income.

Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:42 | 727429 Id fight Gandhi
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My bet is we sell off after Pomo. Hey everyday this week is Pomo.

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