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He'd be happy to help make it a lot lot worse for us.
Yeah, a tsunami along the entire coast would go really well...
"In soviet russia...."
In Soviet Russia well bomb you.
You need to explode a whole lot more than 30 kilotons to cause a tsunami, especially at this depth. Risk of fracturing seabed is the real reason why this option is not on the table.
We should have a CONVENTIONAL DYNAMITE plan in place if BP's relief wells are not successful in early August.
It's an obvious solution.
BP = Brown Poison
BP = Big Problem
BP = Black Plague
Mad Max Keiser...
Waiting for the problem to go away...
Let's kick the oil can down the road some more, see how big it can get first.
If they nuke it, then basically they writing off the value of this asset, no?
The moment platform exploded and drowned and oil started gushing out @ whatever thousands barrel per hour, this asset turned into liability for BP. So, to be precise, they would be writing off a liability, one of the worst places to be these days after the Gulf itself is BP's balance sheet.
"This asset" = The Gulf of Mexico
Capitalism commodifies everything; then it destroys it.
Either way we get a dead zone in the gulf. It is just a matter of choice of 'slow death' versus 'quick painless death'
A lot of people seem to have trouble keeping things in perspective. The oil will make most or all of the gulf a dead zone eventually. A nuclear explosion will kill a bunch of dead fish within it's three hundred meter blast radius, and the fallout will be diluted to background levels within a week.
Cute. From the era of duck and cover.
HAHA!! too funny;
Here, hold this stick of dynamite. You'd better squint your eyes though, it will get a little bright...
Sure...why not. It's either contain it or let it bleed out. At this point it doesn't really matter what they do. Fuck'ed is fucked. What isn't being mentioned is the Russians did it 5 times ON LAND. Easier to dig a hole, no hurricanes, people see what they are drilling, etc.
I'm trying to figure out how they are going to get the nuke down that deep without it collapsing like a tin can with the water pressure on it. The ROV's they are using are built pretty well, but at that pressure they are like tinker toys. Best of luck to them.
Nukes don't need air, unlike submarines. You can't crush one any more than you could crush a ball of lead. You also don't necessarily have to bury it t do the job. The water will contain the blast almost as well as the ground beneath (being an incompressible liquid).
Sort of, to kill the well they have to dig to non-porous depths and (as George Clinton would say) Drop Da Bomb!
'Bout that time ta make a decision.
Ever so seriously, as we've transited into a new era of global governance, peace, human dignity, ecological and astrological harmony, love and prosperity, we should ask others for their input as to the Next Right Thing to Do.
Why not ask the Taliban and Ajdimaninutjob for their opinions, stretching for the return of our generous outreach for their Hearts and Minds? Or bring it to the UN and allow that organization to display it's boundless foresight, knowledge, care and Altruism? After all, it is One World Now. (Separate from as in airline miles.) Branch out to our Fellow Travellers. Place our hearts, minds and future in the hands of the Benevolent Others, the Omnipotent "Them".
But alas, Fucked is as Fucked does. As Joe said to the fellow's "Lower taxes" response when asked what he wanted for a piece of pie; "Don't be a smart ass."
You could also ask Avgidor Lieberman or Benjamin Netanyahoooo for advice.
But I don't know how ethnic cleansing would help BP here.
(Now maybe off the shores of occupied Palestine . . . )
BP = BK.
If the relief well does not work by September BP = BK. A nuke might or might not work, if it will not work... this thing could bleed for 30-50 years.
The UK will have to temporarily backstop loses until the day the rest of the system collapses and they will just wipe their hands clean of the mess at that point.
Awesome....william banzai could redo the logo!!
This kind of stuff makes my bear-sense tingle.
Chris Matthews, is that you?
Douch Bag Matthews is hiding under his desk urinating all over himself afraid militia members and tea baggers are coming to get him...
Matthews: "Oh no people with guns!" <pee>
"Only about 10 kilotons of nuclear explosion capacity and the problem is solved."
Russian efficiency - love it!
I have advocated the same thing, this is not NEW science........
The Rooskies have done this before, and with sucess.
You nuke it, your melt the surrounding sand/gravel formations, collapse it in on itself..Should equal plug..........
What's the risk ratio, compared to a friggin geyser, killing the entire Gulf and beyond for decades?.
Underwater nukes have been set off probably a 100 times over the past 50yrs.
Yeah, it's been done. Bikini Atoll is currently unhabitable and Hiroshima still has the highest cancer rates in Japan, but it should be all right.
And it's not under water: it's underwater, then drill another hole, shovel the nuke into the hole, then blow up the hole hoping that the area the core hits isn't molten lava because the area called Mexico sits on the fault lines.
If it all goes well, we should be drilling again in no time.
Screw Mexico. Go for it.
Yeah but we hit Jamacia, Haiti, Cuba...there are a couple more places in the area than Florida contrary to what the news would make people believe. Where will we ever go for our two week long all inclusive vacations???
They eat out of that water, so do we. Then again, the optics of today is food comes from grocery stores and 7-11. Nuke it. Won't bug me any. I'm in Northern Ontario on a farm, if it gets me to the point where the zones change enough i can grow oranges, who needs Florida then?
"Give us da money Labofski"
"We take its all"
My vote is that we just nuke BP. These clowns belong in jail.
If you mean yachting off of Martha's Vineyard, slurping Dom Perignon and caviar from Anna Chapman's snatch...
...with Jamie, Lloyd and Obummer celebrating $$$Billions in naked shorts and CDS profits from the gulf disaster...
Then yes they are in prison...
I got a crazy teacher he wears dark glasses.
they should just call the russians and let them come and nuke it. That way if anything goes wrong Obama can blame the russian to distract attention from his incompetence.
I was going to say something similar. I was talking with my moms sisters father and I said "why don't the Russians just nuke the well without permissions?"
My moms sisters father said "Why you dumb canine, that would be an act of wa-wa-war".
Then my aunts cousin Thelma said "No it wouldn't".
And I said "Scooby Dooby Doo"!
Here is a scooby snack... If you leave one more of those mondo piles in the drive way or piss on my rims one more time...
If you get a chance give me a call:
If I call... will I step in a mondo pile of scooby dog doo?
Llike the time I caught you peeing right on my newspaper...
And I chased you out of the front yard with a broom and right before I could swat you in the nut sack...
I slid on a scooby dog doo mondo pile in the drive way...
And Marla went: "Slide..."
Maybe the problem is...
1) You forgot to add an S to the code that I gave you? (A common mistake).
2) You do not have our modulator to enter the code? It has to be our modulator.
3) I was very wrong about your ability to communicate with us.
Shouldn't we let them finish the relief well first? If the relief well doesn't stop the flow, then the other options are active. I wish people would stop the drama-queen nonsense about the dangers of using a nuke. We're talking about a tiny (kilotons - it has to fit in an 8" diameter pipe) weapon placed a mile below the seabed. There would be no tsunami or radioactive shrimp.
Stuffing a tactical nuke down the pipe with a 70000 psi backflow might be a little challenging...
The nuke goes in the relief well (or similar), not the one that's flowing.
While I agree with what you've said I would be concerned about the potential "Gas land" problem in which you end up with thousands of small leaks through fissures in the fractured rock.
It would be like the Russians not to mention that little problem.
But that is why the nuke option looks to be the best. Set the explosion(s) around areas of the sea floor that you want to be solidified, kind of like turning leaking sand into solid glass, yo.
That little problem is exactly the whole reason behind the plan.
How many of these nuclear explosions are you proposing?
Oh, that's just me thinking that smaller ones spread out is better than one big one for getting the same sized area. But how many depends on how thorough you want to be. Leaving some amount of "natural" seepage might be okay.
I really hate the idea of doing this, but I hate it less than what we're allowing to continue.
I'm going to go now.
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